Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Clockwinding]

Hello,

 

i've installed the latest version for my new playthrough and i've run into a problem : i get called to the dream world every single night, whatever my slider setting is in the MCM. 

I'm at the quest stage from "find the truth" where i'm supposed to travel and meet scholars, and i don't think it is expected behaviour (at least nothing in game told me it is).

 

I've also found a passage to a dwemer room where i found sanguine's notes about a few things (in the dreamworld), which triggered two new quest objectives, perhaps it's from that? I think i wasn't supposed to go to that place yet.

 

EDIT : i've finished the moonflower garden part and chosen my path, but i still have 2 objectives left unfulfilled in the main quest (the truth), and the quest i received when arriving in the garden hasn't advanced either (objective : what am i doing here?). I'm also still coming back to sanguine's dreamworld every single night.

[merriecabal]

On 12/1/2019 at 6:35 PM, akathon said:

I also got that exact same error message with FINIS after installing this mod.

My game crashes and it gives the error that SD+ won't work with the X32 skeleton mod. 

[Null_001]

I'm being sended to an empty worldspace after the DA/Defeat event plays out ?

[ChewGun]

On 11/26/2019 at 8:50 AM, DeepBlueFrog said:

I noticed that too and I even added an issue in Github about it, but I have no idea what is causing it.

So, this issue still wasn't addressed? Maybe there's some workaround?

I've found where this is set:

sanguinedebauchery.esp -> idle animation -> JumpRoot

There's a condition

WornApparelHasKeywordCount "zad_DeviousArmbinder" == 0

That doesn't allow jumping when this condition returns false i.e. when wearing an armbinder.

It was probably put there for a reason and just making this condition never fire can break things in SD. Or maybe not.

 

For a true fix (for example, there's probably other ways to do that) one would need to create a new global variable, something like 'SDJumpDisabled' and add that to conditions in JumpRoot, and then rewrite scripts so they set SDJumpDisabled = true when it is needed...

[Kingslayer101]

Cant get Flowering Spriggan to actually trigger. I get defeated and get a blackout, gets teleported somewhere else. I am using Death Alternative and bumped up the Infection to max still doesnt work
In some cases, PC gets enslaved and gets infected, not sure if that is how it works.

[sissylover19]

What happens if I decide to stay as property to my masters faction what happens then does that mean when I interact with them or does that mean just a slave having too follow my master etc?

[4nk8r]

Seems the black screen problem is somehow linked with/fixed by using an ENB.  I tried a self-converted version of the most recent github version.  When I get sent to Sanguine's world, it is totally black unless I have an ENB enabled (the base dll's).  I discovered this in reverse by disabling my ENB while trying to troubleshoot some mesh in the Sanguine world cell that is exploding all over the place.  Seems to be a red light source of some kind that is otherwise invisible, but it just looks like crazy random red-tinted vector planes jumping all over the place when any part of it is in your FOV.

[Clockwinding]

On 12/5/2019 at 9:44 PM, Clockwinding said:

Hello,

 

i've installed the latest version for my new playthrough and i've run into a problem : i get called to the dream world every single night, whatever my slider setting is in the MCM. 

I'm at the quest stage from "find the truth" where i'm supposed to travel and meet scholars, and i don't think it is expected behaviour (at least nothing in game told me it is).

 

I've also found a passage to a dwemer room where i found sanguine's notes about a few things (in the dreamworld), which triggered two new quest objectives, perhaps it's from that? I think i wasn't supposed to go to that place yet.

 

EDIT : i've finished the moonflower garden part and chosen my path, but i still have 2 objectives left unfulfilled in the main quest (the truth), and the quest i received when arriving in the garden hasn't advanced either (objective : what am i doing here?). I'm also still coming back to sanguine's dreamworld every single night.

 @DeepBlueFrog I pushed my analysis a bit further thanks to the source scripts and TESVEDIT to lookup the quest stages:

 

-Sanguine's Desire, moonflower garden quest : i saw on your github that it not closing is a bug. Any way to shut it down manually to free the space in journal? (https://github.com/SkyrimLL/SDPlus/issues/976)

-The Truth quest : all stages checked except 20 and 100, which are Sanguine rescuing PC from enslavement, 262 and 266 which are PC's destiny's choice, and 999 (shutdown). There is a stage 268 in-game that's checked and that I can't seem to find though, i don't know what it's directing.

 

My character is still getting dragged to dreamworld every single night i sleep and it's quite bothersome, is it intended? I really don't know where it's coming from.

Also, the objective to "look for Sanguine's haven and see what I can find" is still displayed along my PC's choice of destiny, but that should be a non-issue as far as gameplay goes.

 

EDIT : tried the most random thing ever, pushing the slider for SD dream chance... up. And it worked. It seems like it's inverted?

[Xuvish]

I am on the truth quest.

 

Where is Sanguine's haven?

[Clockwinding]

8 hours ago, Xuvish said:

I am on the truth quest.

 

Where is Sanguine's haven?

Spoiler

when going from Sanguine's throne towards the river, go along the wall on the right before crossing the bridge, through the bushes. You'll get a cell changing into his Haven, a dwemer-decorated room with some books and other trinkets.

 

[Xuvish]

Is it the strange cave?

 

I was just there and took all the items and emptied the chests.

 

The quest did not advance.

 

I slept in the bed and nothing happened.

 

I had an item when I was there earlier called note to myself.  I read it and nothing happened.

 

Is there an item to take or action I am supposed to do?

 

Thanks

[Clockwinding]

1 hour ago, Xuvish said:

Is it the strange cave?

 

I was just there and took all the items and emptied the chests.

 

The quest did not advance.

 

I slept in the bed and nothing happened.

 

I had an item when I was there earlier called note to myself.  I read it and nothing happened.

 

Is there an item to take or action I am supposed to do?

 

Thanks

Well just starting the quest and getting there doesn't magically advance all the relevant quest stages. Rough steps i can remember in the spoiler below :

Spoiler

from memory :

1st visit get enslaved by sanguine, give him his mead to get free, leave.

speak to alicias about stuff

visit the grove a few more times, sanguine will have new dialogue and send you to Haelga in riften. Follow the clues to the shrine, sleep there to go to the grove.

can't remember well from there on, but you should speak to sanguine/alicias/crassus curio about stuff (can't remember the order) to get the next step.

sanguine sends you looking for the truth as he calls it, and you get to travel and ask some scholars about it (Calcelmo in markarth, Urag in Winterhold's College library).

get back to the grove with enough clues, get snapped at by sanguine depending on your dialogue choices.

 

getting to his haven should be around that time, and yes it's the strange cave. If you snoop around then (looks like you did already) the quest will progress further.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

1 hour ago, Xuvish said:

Is it the strange cave?

 

I was just there and took all the items and emptied the chests.

 

The quest did not advance.

 

I slept in the bed and nothing happened.

 

I had an item when I was there earlier called note to myself.  I read it and nothing happened.

 

Is there an item to take or action I am supposed to do?

 

Thanks

It's a note or a book you are supposed to read there. It may have dropped on the ground. If you have it already, drop it, pick it up again and read it. That should advance the quest.

[Dojo_dude]

Got messed up by Hagraven using force spell [modded spells] and got enslaved in Ravenscar Hallow, killed the Hagraven using DEFEAT and now my gear is no where to be found... #%#%! That's a lot of gear and some items you only get at start up.

[DeepBlueFrog]

46 minutes ago, Dojo_dude said:

Got messed up by Hagraven using force spell [modded spells] and got enslaved in Ravenscar Hallow, killed the Hagraven using DEFEAT and now my gear is no where to be found... #%#%! That's a lot of gear and some items you only get at start up.

No worries.. except for your gold, you will find your stuff again once you meet Sanguine.

[Dojo_dude]

3 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

No worries.. except for your gold, you will find your stuff again once you meet Sanguine.

Thanks, I ended up loading a previous save, getting my crew together and then attacking. Next time.

[Electric Aether]

Im having a problem where first person constantly exits out into 3rd person

can anyone help?

[trorhold]

Pls help me. When installing the mod, Skyrim crashes to the desktop. Empirically, I found out that because of this model (SD_Statue.nif), what's wrong with her?

[thehoodedteddy13]

On 12/1/2019 at 5:42 PM, DeepBlueFrog said:

That's a new error message from a more recent version of FNIS than the one I am using.

It should go away if you run FNIS for Modders

How do I configure that on Mod Organizer 2?  Or are you able to fix that soon for the fnis user thing?

[Xuvish]

On 12/14/2019 at 11:45 AM, DeepBlueFrog said:

It's a note or a book you are supposed to read there. It may have dropped on the ground. If you have it already, drop it, pick it up again and read it. That should advance the quest.

I was in that cave and emptied everything out before I got to this part of the quest.

 

I tried dropping all the notes and book in the cave and read everything.  Quest did not advance. 

 

Below is  the part of the quest I am on.

 

I tried it after choosing my path as well and quest did not advance.

 

After I chose my path, I did not get any additional dialogues.

 

What is the name of note or book I am supposed to pick up?

 

I want to see if I can advance on this character before I try on my main.

 

Thanks

 

 

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[Maddac]

On 12/2/2019 at 9:42 AM, DeepBlueFrog said:

That's a new error message from a more recent version of FNIS than the one I am using.

It should go away if you run FNIS for Modders

I have never run FNIS for Modders before, if I see an error like this it does concern me as a user, shouldnt the mod be updated to fix the error? when i go to run FNIS for modders it has this message:

 

If you are NOT a modder: DONT USE THIS TOOL.
You might corrupt your installed files.

 

[pihwht]

4 hours ago, Maddac said:

I have never run FNIS for Modders before, if I see an error like this it does concern me as a user, shouldnt the mod be updated to fix the error? when i go to run FNIS for modders it has this message:

 

If you are NOT a modder: DONT USE THIS TOOL.
You might corrupt your installed files.

 

I've used it a couple of times and it works very simply straightening out problems with ported animations. I think the warning is probably overblown. The mod probably will be updated. Those of us who are too impatient to wait have just run the program. Took two or three minutes.

[Silatuyok]

I'm getting a CTD whenever I go to dreamworld by sleeping in front of the pink untextured altar. I can't do anything with creation kit since I'm running on skyrimVR. Any ideas for a fix?

PS: I don't ever get to dreamworld otherwise

[DeepBlueFrog]

On 12/26/2019 at 4:54 PM, Silatuyok said:

I'm getting a CTD whenever I go to dreamworld by sleeping in front of the pink untextured altar. I can't do anything with creation kit since I'm running on skyrimVR. Any ideas for a fix?

PS: I don't ever get to dreamworld otherwise

I'm sorry.... I have no solution for you since I don't own Skyrim VR and never tested the mod on that version. I'm actually surprised the rest works at all.

[Zerlenka]

so when you are enslaved your follower is also enslaved, but they are just standing around. gotta say the followers got it easy.