Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[DeepBlueFrog]

2 hours ago, Narrenlord said:

Oh i did not see that i need "you money or your Life" to be compatibel whit "Defeat" i only read: isnt requierd anymore.

Yes. DA is not needdd anymore for SD to run without crashing but you do need it if you want to be automatically enslaved after defeat (otherwise you have to use the submit key manually).

[Narrenlord]

8 minutes ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

Yes. DA is not needdd anymore for SD to run without crashing but you do need it if you want to be automatically enslaved after defeat (otherwise you have to use the submit key manually).

Hm... no my game crashes every time i trigger the mod, even by the alternate start ones from CCA

The only one i started and didnt crashed my game was the start where you get enslaved too Sanguine him self.

[DeepBlueFrog]

39 minutes ago, Narrenlord said:

Hm... no my game crashes every time i trigger the mod, even by the alternate start ones from CCA

The only one i started and didnt crashed my game was the start where you get enslaved too Sanguine him self.

That could be a problem with Devious devices , it’s requirements, or maybe generating Bodyslides files.

[Gloral]

So, I'm at the Meadery right now and I'm supposed to look for clues.

The NPCs have nothing to say about the manifest, and I searched everywhere for items in and outside.

I know there's a cave under the bridge and how to get in, but I'm not sure what the clue really is.
Tried searching for it in this topic without any luck.
Does it have a name or is there anything I have to do? If I already did I guess it might mean the quest is bugged like when I found the manifest before.

[DeepBlueFrog]

1 hour ago, Gloral said:

So, I'm at the Meadery right now and I'm supposed to look for clues.

The NPCs have nothing to say about the manifest, and I searched everywhere for items in and outside.

I know there's a cave under the bridge and how to get in, but I'm not sure what the clue really is.
Tried searching for it in this topic without any luck.
Does it have a name or is there anything I have to do? If I already did I guess it might mean the quest is bugged like when I found the manifest before.

There should be a clue on the desk or on the floor under the desk in the main bedroom upstairs.

[Gloral]

7 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

There should be a clue on the desk or on the floor under the desk in the main bedroom upstairs.

It wasn't in my current save, but I was able to find it when i reloaded to a previous save and got back to that step, thanks a lot for the help there.
Now though, I have a new problem, and that is sleeping in front of sanguine's shrine.
The quest tells me to do that, but when I do, I am sent to the dream world as usual, but the quest doesn't seem to update when I do that.

[Narrenlord]

17 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

That could be a problem with Devious devices , it’s requirements, or maybe generating Bodyslides files.

what files do i have too generate and how do i do that?

[DeepBlueFrog]

3 hours ago, Gloral said:

It wasn't in my current save, but I was able to find it when i reloaded to a previous save and got back to that step, thanks a lot for the help there.
Now though, I have a new problem, and that is sleeping in front of sanguine's shrine.
The quest tells me to do that, but when I do, I am sent to the dream world as usual, but the quest doesn't seem to update when I do that.

Usually... talk to Sanguine for new clues and topics of discussion when you get there.

You can also type : sqs _sd_dream - in the console and tell me what stage is the last one to be set to 1 in the output.

 

57 minutes ago, Narrenlord said:

what files do i have too generate and how do i do that?

I suggest you ask for help on that in the Devious Devices Beta thread - 

 

[Gloral]

1 hour ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

Usually... talk to Sanguine for new clues and topics of discussion when you get there.

You can also type : sqs _sd_dream - in the console and tell me what stage is the last one to be set to 1 in the output.

 

I suggest you ask for help on that in the Devious Devices Beta thread - 

 

Let's see... the last ones to have a 1 are stages 232 and 234. Stage 230 has a 0 and sanguine doesn't seem to have anything new to say besides his usual.
Also stages 20 and 100 also have a 0 on them.
I assume 232 and 234 are from talking to 2 of the alicias.

[Sharilyn]

Can somebody please tell me why this mod forces my camera to go into 3rd person everytime I load my game after enslavement? I had to uninstall this mod and reinstall countless times just to fix this annoying 3rd person bug....

 

May I know if theres a way around it?

[DeepBlueFrog]

3 hours ago, Sharilyn said:

Can somebody please tell me why this mod forces my camera to go into 3rd person everytime I load my game after enslavement? I had to uninstall this mod and reinstall countless times just to fix this annoying 3rd person bug....

 

May I know if theres a way around it?

This is an issue with FNIS. It has been reported a while ago and I don't know if anything was done to fix it yet.

 

Try installing the latest version of FNIS and see if it helps.

 

If not, I know mods like Immersive First Person fix the issue by taking over the 3rd person camera system altogether.

[Sharilyn]

19 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

This is an issue with FNIS. It has been reported a while ago and I don't know if anything was done to fix it yet.

 

Try installing the latest version of FNIS and see if it helps.

 

If not, I know mods like Immersive First Person fix the issue by taking over the 3rd person camera system altogether.

 

I installed the latest version of FNIS 3 days ago; it didnt help.

 

Also, I'm already using Enhanced Camera 1.4 for first person camera adjustments, and 3CPO for 3rd person camera, but somehow it doesnt fix it. Must it really be immersive first person? Because I downloaded that a while ago but it caused other problems for me like not being able to see the body while sitting down...

 

The question thats really bugging me is that this bug only happens after Im enslaved, which is really the point of this mod. I have a playthrough where I totally just avoid enslavement and this 3rd person camera bug didnt occur at all, but sprigan infection for eg would still work without triggering this bug...

 

Is there some console command to completely remove the enslavement protocols or something? I remember back then I scoured through this thread and found some console command to remove the coveted effect and it worked well for eg.

 

EDIT: I seem to have narrowed it down to the forced animations that occur after loading the game, like crawling immediately upon load, or kneeling. Am I correct in saying this probably cant be circumvented?

[tommyHaha]

Is Special Editon support?

[DeepBlueFrog]

On 7/5/2018 at 5:08 AM, Sharilyn said:

 

I installed the latest version of FNIS 3 days ago; it didnt help.

 

Also, I'm already using Enhanced Camera 1.4 for first person camera adjustments, and 3CPO for 3rd person camera, but somehow it doesnt fix it. Must it really be immersive first person? Because I downloaded that a while ago but it caused other problems for me like not being able to see the body while sitting down...

 

The question thats really bugging me is that this bug only happens after Im enslaved, which is really the point of this mod. I have a playthrough where I totally just avoid enslavement and this 3rd person camera bug didnt occur at all, but sprigan infection for eg would still work without triggering this bug...

 

Is there some console command to completely remove the enslavement protocols or something? I remember back then I scoured through this thread and found some console command to remove the coveted effect and it worked well for eg.

 

EDIT: I seem to have narrowed it down to the forced animations that occur after loading the game, like crawling immediately upon load, or kneeling. Am I correct in saying this probably cant be circumvented?

The forced animations are using something from FNIS that messes with the camera. Someone else identified the source and reported it back to the FNIS team. No word if or when it will be fixed.

 

That said, I just did a test game without any forced animation or enslavement, and the camera got stuck in 3rd person just the same after a sexlab anim.

[DeepBlueFrog]

36 minutes ago, tommyHaha said:

Is Special Editon support?

Not for at least another year. I have too many things to work on with the mod themselves. I don't want to get down the rabbit hole of fixing issues with porting things to SSE.

[spyke123]

On ‎7‎/‎4‎/‎2018 at 10:44 PM, Sharilyn said:

Can somebody please tell me why this mod forces my camera to go into 3rd person everytime I load my game after enslavement? I had to uninstall this mod and reinstall countless times just to fix this annoying 3rd person bug....

 

May I know if theres a way around it?

 

Not really a fix but I used to have this too, and unchecking "Enable armbinder kneeling" in MCM made it go away for me... 

[Sharilyn]

15 hours ago, DeepBlueFrog said:

The forced animations are using something from FNIS that messes with the camera. Someone else identified the source and reported it back to the FNIS team. No word if or when it will be fixed.

 

That said, I just did a test game without any forced animation or enslavement, and the camera got stuck in 3rd person just the same after a sexlab anim.

 

Weird, I did a test playthrough without SD+ (8 hours clocked) and this bug didnt occur despite having various sexlab anims...

Now I did playthrough test #2 (with over 20 hours clocked) with SD+ installed and this bug occurred, which I immediately used the SD+'s Uninstall function to uninstall the mod inside the game, BUT DIDN'T actually remove the mod (i.e. mod still remains activated via mod manager, but uninstalled in the save), and the instant I uninstalled SD+, the bug was gone. This makes me believe SD+ is calling some function on save game load that leads to the bug. I'm still testing this playthrough without any 3rd person camera bug so far, but for some reason as Im typing this on the 20th hour mark I got transported to Sanguine's Dreamworld despite the mod being "uninstalled" 18 hours ago...

 

Some observations:

-Enslavement via SD+ functions trigger this bug for me.

-Playing without any trigger from SD+ functions (avoiding enslavement, etc) doesnt trigger the bug.

-Once the bug occurs, nothing short of uninstalling the mod inside the save or removing the mod entirely from the mod manager will fix it, and this includes reloading to a "previous save". Reloading to a save without SD+ enabled works though. [Needs more testing]

 

 

Not sure if this helps but I'll just list some of the other main sexlab mods I use (in case of "conflicts" but to my knowledge theres none):

 

Sexlab Defeat, Simple Slavery Plus, DD assets, expansion, integration 4.1, ZaZ Animation Pack 7 (also tried with 8 PLUS to no avail), Sexlab Aroused, Deviously Cursed Loot, PSQ, Estrus Chaurus, Sexlab Parasites, Sexlab Stories, Dibella Sisterhood, Egg Factory, Mia's Lair.....all updated to the latest version. Theres more but these are the main ones I think.

 

 

 

5 hours ago, spyke123 said:

 

Not really a fix but I used to have this too, and unchecking "Enable armbinder kneeling" in MCM made it go away for me... 

Nope, didn't work for me, unfortunately....

[tualmaril]

Is this mod work with Milk Mod Iconomy

[GeorgiaCav]

Couple of things, I'm using 3.6.3 beta mostly successfully but have some questions/requests.

 

1. Has anyone else had a problem when running SD+ with DFW in which being enslaved results in an endless loop of the pc turning around to get cuffed? I'm pretty sure it's a DFW problem but I was just wondering if anyone else has had it and if there's a fix other than uninstalling DFW and cleaning the save.

 

2. DeepBlueFrog, a long time ago I asked if there was a way to turn off the Falmer cum effect and you declined, and I understand the reasons for it. I'm just wondering if the cum effect is applied as a mesh or a texture that can be changed through NifSkope or some other means, so that I can not have the glow-cum but without any changes to the mod's scripting or anything else except in my own local copy. Again, I'm not trying to piss on your work, which I love; that particular visual effect just isn't quite to my taste.

 

Thanks again for a mod I haven't played without in three years. Your hard work is greatly appreciated.

[tualmaril]

Hello everybody can somebody give me a spoiler retard guide to the thuth quest and the first entry to the dreamworld cos i seem to just break it alot.

[Fuzzy_Fox]

19 minutes ago, tualmaril said:

Hello everybody can somebody give me a spoiler retard guide to the thuth quest and the first entry to the dreamworld cos i seem to just break it alot.

 

The quest can be broken easily.

I have found that you can start the quest even before going to the Dreamworld just by talking to Helga in Riften. Also the quest can skip parts and end very quickly as there doesn't seem to be a progress state and can jump from the start of asking about the Alicias and going straight to the Soul Garden.

 

Spoiler

 

The steps as I understand them are this.

1) Go to Dream World and talk to the Alicia.

2) Get enslaved by Sanguine

3) Serve him mead

4)Talk to Helga and search the cellar for the clue to the next part of the quest.

5) Sleep in front of Shrine

6) Talk to Sanguine and get him to talk about the Truth.

7) Talk to a scholar about the Truth.

8 ) Ask Crassius if Sanguine wants to be killed.

9) Enter Sanguine's special cave.

10) Ask Sanguine if he wants you to decide between the Alicias for him.

11) Enter the Soul Garden

12) Pick your path when asked by Sanguine.

 

But I have noticed I can skip steps 4 to 10 sometimes and end the quest if done in a certain way. The other day I noticed as a level 1 in Riften I can ask Helga "What am I doing here?" Which is part of the Truth quest line and in so doing starting the quest.

 

 

 

[tualmaril]

3 minutes ago, Fuzzy_Fox said:

 

The quest can be broken easily.

I have found that you can start the quest even before going to the Dreamworld just by talking to Helga in Riften. Also the quest can skip parts and end very quickly as there doesn't seem to be a progress state and can jump from the start of asking about the Alicias and going straight to the Soul Garden.

 

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The steps as I understand them are this.

1) Go to Dream World and talk to the Alicia.

2) Get enslaved by Sanguine

3) Serve him mead

4)Talk to Helga and search the cellar for the clue to the next part of the quest.

5) Sleep in front of Shrine

6) Talk to Sanguine and get him to talk about the Truth.

7) Talk to a scholar about the Truth.

8 ) Ask Crassius if Sanguine wants to be killed.

9) Enter Sanguine's special cave.

10) Ask Sanguine if he wants you to decide between the Alicias for him.

11) Enter the Soul Garden

12) Pick your path when asked by Sanguine.

 

But I have noticed I can skip steps 4 to 10 sometimes and end the quest if done in a certain way. The other day I noticed as a level 1 in Riften I can ask Helga "What am I doing here?" Which is part of the Truth quest line and in so doing starting the quest.

 

 

 

What if I enter the dreamworld  via the secret shrine. And second question how do I leave afte serving mead cos I just stand there and dont get a dialogue to leave.

[Fuzzy_Fox]

2 hours ago, tualmaril said:

What if I enter the dreamworld  via the secret shrine. And second question how do I leave afte serving mead cos I just stand there and dont get a dialogue to leave.

Tell Sanguine you wish to leave after serving his drink. Or if that doesn't work pull the chain on the stone column.

[NightWitch234]

On 6/27/2018 at 6:22 PM, DeepBlueFrog said:

You should be able to change your dominance/submission by answering 'submit' every time the pop up shows up.

The values are set internally first using storageUtil, which in turn, updates the global variable you tried to set. That's why it was erased automatically.

Check your requirements... that could be old versions of Devious Assets, Integrations and Expansions. Could be also an issue with custom races... are you using a custom race for your character?

 

Also, some items don't display well for beast races.

I checked the requirements, and tried again, but the bug is still occurs.

[Dragoncoc696969]

facing some problems with in game (in MCM) uninstallation. I thought of temporarily uninstalling it, as i don't it right now. After uninstalling it from MCM menu, it said to wait for a while outside the MCM menu & so i did, a message came saying its starting the uninstallation. But after some time the game just froze (maybe it's because of my poor ram) & i had to force stop the game. Now when i go to MCM SD menu, the main options shows up but no sub option shows up, even "The Truth" quest vanished from the quest (which i actually wanted). What should i do?