way2co0l_2003 Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 Oh I definitely understand it's something on my end, though it appears to be happening to at least a few others so there is some common denominator, I just don't know what it is. Anyway, I just completely uninstalled NMM, deleted everything from every folder, then reinstalled and then set my mods back up again. Still same thing. Attaching papyrus log and screenshot of my mods listed in NMM which is what I believe you were asking to see. Papyrus.0.log
Levrette Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 That's odd.. I can cycle through the poses before enslavement in my test games. Are you sure you have the latest version? Yes, SDPlus358 and the SD Customization Addons v6 but I am using NMM so there is a possibility of bad housekeeping going on when uninstalling older versions. I've deliberately denied it the chance to do an update recently, since I know that the full "uninstall all mods, update, reinstall all mods" never ever works properly on my system but maybe it's been sloppy with single mod operations anyway. The behaviour observed in my game isn't an issue for me, it sort of makes sense from a roleplaying perspective. Skipping happily around Skyrim slaying everything that looks at me funny then I bite off more than I can chew and suddenly my whole world is turned upside down, no longer in control of my fate and forced to do things I would never have dreamed of before. After my daring escape I start getting these horrible urges and go back to crawling naked out in the wilderness where no one will see me except the wildlife. I probably haven't said this before, too involved with reporting odd behaviour and giving out erroneous information but thank you very much for such a wonderfully immersive and devious experience, the new "merit" system and jobs have improved things greatly.
way2co0l_2003 Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 Yes, SDPlus358 and the SD Customization Addons v6 but I am using NMM so there is a possibility of bad housekeeping going on when uninstalling older versions. I've deliberately denied it the chance to do an update recently, since I know that the full "uninstall all mods, update, reinstall all mods" never ever works properly on my system but maybe it's been sloppy with single mod operations anyway. I wonder if it's just an issue with NMM? I know most people seem to be using MO nowadays so maybe that's the common denominator? I did notice when trying to remove mods in the past that it would pull from some other folder and just replace everything I had deleted. I'm fairly confident I got everything by this point, but maybe I'm missing something as I see in my papyrus that it still seems to be referencing the SD patch for Frostfall even though I haven't installed said patch or Frostfall itself. I mean, I have to be missing something, but I'm not sure what. I've completely wiped the main game directory, completely wiped NMM and every folder for NMM I could find, and still seem to have the same issue. I wonder if NMM has something somewhere else I haven't found that is continuing to effect this?
bicobus Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 Oh I definitely understand it's something on my end, though it appears to be happening to at least a few others so there is some common denominator, I just don't know what it is. Anyway, I just completely uninstalled NMM, deleted everything from every folder, then reinstalled and then set my mods back up again. Still same thing. Attaching papyrus log and screenshot of my mods listed in NMM which is what I believe you were asking to see. Just fishing here, but remove "Continue Game no Crash" and "safety load". Replace them by Crash Fixes. Try to remove Sexy Moves too, it's unnecessary, and use standard FNIS over XXL. Actually, it may just be this: XXL and Sexy Moves. But I have no trust in the other two mods I named.
way2co0l_2003 Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 Just fishing here, but remove "Continue Game no Crash" and "safety load". Replace them by Crash Fixes. Try to remove Sexy Moves too, it's unnecessary, and use standard FNIS over XXL. Actually, it may just be this: XXL and Sexy Moves. But I have no trust in the other two mods I named. I'll give it a try, but I'm unsure why those would have any effect on it. The stability mods may not even be necessary anymore as I did install crash fixes in my previous load (haven't installed it yet in my barebones install as I've been uninstalling/reinstalling several times and didn't want to keep updating files until I'm ready to actually play) and the 3 played together fine. I was able to play with nearly 200 mods without any crashes or obvious issues. Also, I've previously tried removing Sexy move and switching to the normal version of FNIS, even though that required me to disable several of the animation mods I use, and neither of those helped at the time. I'm not trying to be difficult of course. lol. I'll go ahead and give it another shot right now just to see if it has any effect, but my previous efforts doing these things didn't effect anything. Though perhaps that was simply because I had all my other mods running at the time, and on my barebones setup it might have a different effect. Unlikely but possible, so here goes. I do appreciate the fact you're trying at least, and I know it's not easy to troubleshoot a random system you have no direct access to. So <3
bicobus Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 Have you installed Zaz in the right order? v61 then v0611_patch? Otherwise, I just don't know. Probably a curse goblin trying to fuck with you.
way2co0l_2003 Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 Ok, well gave it a shot. Removed the suggested mods, installed crash fixes and the normal version of FNIS and my game failed to load. Rereading the crash fixes troubleshooting, they actually recommend safety load, so that one seems to be necessary for me at least. Actually, it seems I'm failing to load the game unless I have both installed in addition to crash fixes and ENB so I've restored all of them. Otherwise, removing sexy move and using the normal FNIS doesn't appear to have resolved the situation for me as it remains the same.
way2co0l_2003 Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 Have you installed Zaz in the right order? v61 then v0611_patch? Otherwise, I just don't know. Probably a curse goblin trying to fuck with you. At this point I think you might be right. haha. But for the record, I definitely installed Zaz in the right order. I was very careful in the order I installed everything, so I'm absolutely 100% positive of that at least. I know my system is finicky though as it seems continue game without crashing and safety load are essential for me to load a game that's even slightly modded, and crash fixes and ENB are essential for me to play a heavily modded game, which also makes the XXL version of FNIS essential since my mod loadout exceeds the default animation limit. The thing is, I was able to do that with really only this super minor issue. As Levrette and myself has said, it's a minor thing and not a huge deal by any means, especially because it becomes possible once an enslavement takes place so it will eventually work. It just doesn't fully work as intended for everyone. At least a small minority of us (I know of at least half a dozen people claiming it) and I'm only continuing to push it because there's obviously a common denominator somewhere and it might be helpful to find out what it is. At this point my admittedly wild guess is that it's somehow NMM related, but I don't know if it's consistent among the others that have the issue or not. So it's probably an inaccurate guess, but I'm again unsure where to go to narrow it down further. It might not even be worth the time to figure it out. lol. Anyway, thank you again for your time. I really appreciate your help.
NisaK Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 These messages here are telling me you are still using a very old version. I have disabled the SD patches for Dawnguard and Dragonborn a long time ago and I just disabled the SD addon for Frostfall as well. Forgive me for the dumb question but maybe the esp for SDPlus38 which is uploaded is a really out of date esp? My computer is saying the esp packaged with SDPlus358 was last modified on 1/1/2008 at 5:13 am...
bicobus Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 All SD+ esp are redated on release, back to 2008. Side effect of a mod manager tool I believe.
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 25, 2017 Author Posted March 25, 2017 All SD+ esp are redated on release, back to 2008. Side effect of a mod manager tool I believe. Exactly.
way2co0l_2003 Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 Well, I doubt it's going to make any difference but I'm currently repeating the process again, completely reinstalling my game and will be trying MO this time to see if it changes anything. Won't be running NMM during this attempt so it won't have the chance to reinstall anything it shouldn't.
way2co0l_2003 Posted March 25, 2017 Posted March 25, 2017 Alright, so took me awhile to figure out how to install everything through MO, to get FNIS to work, and to generate papyrus logs but I think I've got it all setup atm. Unfortunately, the option to cycle through it still doesn't work, even when I map the keys to something else. It's possible I have to spend more time learning MO to figure it out, but as far as I can currently tell, everything should be working fine. :/ Papyrus.0.log
Lyman the Lunatic Posted March 26, 2017 Posted March 26, 2017 Finally I fixed it.Apparently I forgot to disable Skyrim in Nexus Mod Manager when I updated it.So far, I have the age old problem of one of the animation mods keeps forcing Rough Doggystyle sex pose all the time & will keep fighting me from changing the pose, it doesn't even matter if I didn't have the damn sex pose in Sexlab. And it seems 1.62 Rough doggystyle is broken because my char. is humping the air while her master just stands naked again.Well, looks like I keep running into 1 problem after the another...Other than that, from what I noticed so far, my char gets a -1 point every game hour even during sex.I'll try to fix this whole "the mods keeps forcing rough doggystyle pose even if I tell them not to force any damn animations & I disable that specific pose but it still wants to play it no matter what". Then I'll get back to you what I found about this update of SD.
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 26, 2017 Author Posted March 26, 2017 Finally I fixed it. Apparently I forgot to disable Skyrim in Nexus Mod Manager when I updated it. So far, I have the age old problem of one of the animation mods keeps forcing Rough Doggystyle sex pose all the time & will keep fighting me from changing the pose, it doesn't even matter if I didn't have the damn sex pose in Sexlab. And it seems 1.62 Rough doggystyle is broken because my char. is humping the air while her master just stands naked again. Well, looks like I keep running into 1 problem after the another... Other than that, from what I noticed so far, my char gets a -1 point every game hour even during sex. I'll try to fix this whole "the mods keeps forcing rough doggystyle pose even if I tell them not to force any damn animations & I disable that specific pose but it still wants to play it no matter what". Then I'll get back to you what I found about this update of SD. The 1 point every hour is normal. That's an incentive to bring more stuff for your master., and yes, that means you loose automatically multiple points when you sleep. Being a slave is not supposed to be easy Your issue with animations sound related to the bound animation filter. There are two settings to control animations while wearing devious devices. One is on the Devious Device menu and one is in the Zaz animation pack menu. If you don't want animations to be filtered, I suggest you turn off both options (that's what I do for the same reasons.. I don't like the small number of animations it selects). Now about why it selects an anim you don't have, I have no idea.
Lyman the Lunatic Posted March 26, 2017 Posted March 26, 2017 The 1 point every hour is normal. That's an incentive to bring more stuff for your master., and yes, that means you loose automatically multiple points when you sleep. Being a slave is not supposed to be easy Your issue with animations sound related to the bound animation filter. There are two settings to control animations while wearing devious devices. One is on the Devious Device menu and one is in the Zaz animation pack menu. If you don't want animations to be filtered, I suggest you turn off both options (that's what I do for the same reasons.. I don't like the small number of animations it selects). Now about why it selects an anim you don't have, I have no idea. I have no idea why either, I disabled all the animation options in zaz & devious devices & they still play the animations any way. And as I mentioned, all those animations they want to play are all the ones I have disabled. Weird... And so it seems I have to actually think about where I should send my char. to be enslaved, then? So, no more 1 tiny cave with a haystack for bed, but a labyrinth so my char. can keep finding stuff for her master? If I could buy the whole "I can striploot without my hand" thing. Makes me feel like I would end up console command items to throw it her master's way. I like the idea of working your way to freedom, but not the striploot thingy. Other than the whole animation thingy, SD seems to work fine. I do noticed this update wouldn't let my char. naked anymore by giving her a rag to wear.
Llakuawyus Posted March 27, 2017 Posted March 27, 2017 It kicks me to 3rd person constantly when enslaved. I use enhanced camera and immersive first person view. When playing i use enhanced camera, when I want 1st person in a sex scene i use immersive first person view via a hotkey and then disable it with a hotkey again after sex scene. I have disabled immersive first person support in devious devices mcm and I have tried the dawnguard 3rd person fix mod. Those 2 things seemed to have helped a little bit but not by much. Any ideas?
spyke123 Posted March 27, 2017 Posted March 27, 2017 It kicks me to 3rd person constantly when enslaved. I use enhanced camera and immersive first person view. When playing i use enhanced camera, when I want 1st person in a sex scene i use immersive first person view via a hotkey and then disable it with a hotkey again after sex scene. I have disabled immersive first person support in devious devices mcm and I have tried the dawnguard 3rd person fix mod. Those 2 things seemed to have helped a little bit but not by much. Any ideas? Uncheck the autokneel option. Seems bugged, at least this fixed it for me ...
Darthk Posted March 27, 2017 Posted March 27, 2017 where would Sanquine's shrine be at I've been running around trying to look for it
bicobus Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 There is a shrine in a cave under the Honningbrew Meadery, only accessible once you have access to the basement of said building (it's part of the thieves guild quest line). Another way to meet Sanguine would be to sleep in a specific bed in Haelga's Bunkhouse (again, basement).
Llakuawyus Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 It kicks me to 3rd person constantly when enslaved. I use enhanced camera and immersive first person view. When playing i use enhanced camera, when I want 1st person in a sex scene i use immersive first person view via a hotkey and then disable it with a hotkey again after sex scene. I have disabled immersive first person support in devious devices mcm and I have tried the dawnguard 3rd person fix mod. Those 2 things seemed to have helped a little bit but not by much. Any ideas? Uncheck the autokneel option. Seems bugged, at least this fixed it for me ... Thanks, hopefully that helps.
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 28, 2017 Author Posted March 28, 2017 There is a shrine in a cave under the Honningbrew Meadery, only accessible once you have access to the basement of said building (it's part of the thieves guild quest line). Another way to meet Sanguine would be to sleep in a specific bed in Haelga's Bunkhouse (again, basement). There is also a secret entrance under the bridge outside the meadery if you want earlier access.
bicobus Posted March 28, 2017 Posted March 28, 2017 That entrance is locked and requires a specific key to open though. No key seems to fit either.
DeepBlueFrog Posted March 28, 2017 Author Posted March 28, 2017 That entrance is locked and requires a specific key to open though. No key seems to fit either. Look in the water under the bridge.. you should find a box with a key
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