Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Waterman111]

Hey new guy here but im not sure what im supposed to be doing. I see all these stats, and allowance points, but im not sure how to raise them. Also I can never interact with my owner even if I brought back food and such I don't know how to give it to him. Is there something im doing wrong?

[galgat]

I don't understand anything you said. I have been using SD+ for quite a while now and I never had any RNPC nonsense in my logs. I do not understand why you are talking about "c++ Re-distributable" things, as nothing in SD+ requires you to have a c++ compiler. 

 

If you wish to understand an issue, the best way to go about it is to individually test each mods you are using. RNPC do not originate from SD+, nor does the runtime errors.

 

 

 

  I may have sorted some of my issue out, I re configured all my Skyrim Papyrus setting, and tweaked them, mostly back to almost total default, I have been moving through the animations in SD + okay now..

 

   I never pin pointed SD +, what I did say was that this "RNPC: Periodic update check." was some how connected with the failure in conjunction with SD +, and I was trying to figure it out.  I was also having, and still am having the same problem with SLAV, but I am still looking at that one.

 

I said that the "RNPC: Periodic update check." was from Dawnguard as best I could figure it.  I said that I was not complaining, just hoping for some help, or maybe some one else had a similar problem, I am not bashing your favorite Mod, in any way.  I like SD + very much, so I was looking for a fix.

 

If you don't think NPC can cause a Runtime error, then you need to look at the information on the two DLC runtime errors I mentioned.

 

  Any way  I have I believe solved my Problem, mostly in the skyrim.ini.

 

    Took some tweaking, but the game was stable for over 4 hours, and boo coo's of sexlab animations, with Deviously Enslaved, and SD +, and SLdialogues all loaded.

 

   I am keeping fingers crossed, but all seems solid now, or much better for sure..

 

   Also one of the standard fixes when you start to have a lot of run time error's is to re install the c++ Re-distributable, I think 2005 to 2015.

 

 

[Skullered]

Regarding the "constantly getting kicked into third person" problem. A likely culprit of the problem might be FNIS' alternate animation system, reason being that every time SetAnimGroup and set_AACondition is called, the script forces you into thirdperson.

 

(Source code)

 

 

fnis.psc Line 34-45

int Function set_AACondition(actor ac, string AAtype, string mod, int AAcond, int AAdebug = 1) global
string AA_var
string mod_var
string s
int iAA
int ibase
int iresult
int iset
string acname = (ac.GetBaseObject() as ActorBase).Getname()

if ac == Game.GetPlayer()
  Game.ForceThirdPerson()   <---------------------------------

FNIS_aa.psc Line 37-40

bool Function SetAnimGroup(actor ac, string animGroup, int base, int number, string mod, bool debugOutput = false) global
if ( base >= 0 ) && ( number >= 0 ) && ( number <= 9 ) && ( ac != none )
  if ( ac == Game.GetPlayer() )
   Game.ForceThirdPerson()   <---------------------------------

 

 

 

It could probably be solved by changing animation sets only when needed, and checking whether or not the camera is in the first person state or not.

 

EDIT: Profiling the Game script also reveals that GetPlayer and ForceThirdPerson are called right after each other, same as in the AA scripts.

 

 

77598:QUEUE_PUSH:5047:5:None:Game.??.getplayer
77613:PUSH:5047:5:None:Game..getplayer
77613:POP:5047:5:None:Game..getplayer
77613:QUEUE_PUSH:5047:5:None:Game.??.ForceThirdPerson
77613:PUSH:5047:5:None:Game..ForceThirdPerson
77613:POP:5047:5:None:Game..ForceThirdPerson

 

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

Regarding the "constantly getting kicked into third person" problem. A likely culprit of the problem might be FNIS' alternate animation system, reason being that every time SetAnimGroup and set_AACondition is called, the script forces you into thirdperson.

 

(Source code)

 

 

fnis.psc Line 34-45

int Function set_AACondition(actor ac, string AAtype, string mod, int AAcond, int AAdebug = 1) global
string AA_var
string mod_var
string s
int iAA
int ibase
int iresult
int iset
string acname = (ac.GetBaseObject() as ActorBase).Getname()

if ac == Game.GetPlayer()
  Game.ForceThirdPerson()   <---------------------------------

FNIS_aa.psc Line 37-40

bool Function SetAnimGroup(actor ac, string animGroup, int base, int number, string mod, bool debugOutput = false) global
if ( base >= 0 ) && ( number >= 0 ) && ( number <= 9 ) && ( ac != none )
  if ( ac == Game.GetPlayer() )
   Game.ForceThirdPerson()   <---------------------------------

 

 

 

It could probably be solved by changing animation sets only when needed, and checking whether or not the camera is in the first person state or not.

 

EDIT: Profiling the Game script also reveals that GetPlayer and ForceThirdPerson are called right after each other, same as in the AA scripts.

 

 

77598:QUEUE_PUSH:5047:5:None:Game.??.getplayer

77613:PUSH:5047:5:None:Game..getplayer

77613:POP:5047:5:None:Game..getplayer

77613:QUEUE_PUSH:5047:5:None:Game.??.ForceThirdPerson

77613:PUSH:5047:5:None:Game..ForceThirdPerson

77613:POP:5047:5:None:Game..ForceThirdPerson

 

 

 

Very nice detective work.

 

You should bring that up to Fore and see if that ForceThirdPerson call is really necessary.

[GeorgiaCav]

Hey new guy here but im not sure what im supposed to be doing. I see all these stats, and allowance points, but im not sure how to raise them. Also I can never interact with my owner even if I brought back food and such I don't know how to give it to him. Is there something im doing wrong?

 

Make sure you have the latest version of Sexlab Dialogues and its dependencies installed. You won't get the full set of dialogue options without it.

 

If you have it, you should get dialogue options in the main dialogue menu for "Master?" or "Mistress?" and another that says "I have something for you." To raise your stats, experiment with those.

 

 

Under the "Master?" dialogue, ask "What do you want?" and "May I..." to bring up options and actions that will raise your stats. Notice that even if the owner rapes you, it will raise your stats. Offering food, drink, and valuables through "I have something for you" will do the same.

 

 

If you have Dialogues but not those options, another mod may be interfering.

 

You might also need a dialogue enhancement mod like EZ2C Dialogue or Better Dialogue Controls. These can restore dialogue options that get lost in the shuffle due to Skyrim's dialogue menu's limitations.

 

[Malakos]

Hi, I have two problem :

 

First, when my charac is enslaved, all her gear is lost (the owner didn't hav anything), and if I check limited removal, she keeps everything...

 

Secondly, I have a bug each time my char is raped, a box saying me that my collar compel my to drop my weapon...I don't have any weapons. Had this bug a long time ago, but i don't remember how i fixed it... I think it's link with the brawl bug patch....

 

Soooooo any idea ?

[ArtKO171]

Hi,

I've recently installed this mod. Or should be good. But many things are wrong.

 

1) After the installation (MO) I've updated FNIS as usual and Loot. No Warning.

2)I launch SKSE, no crash. SD+ loaded... has been installed and before I can open MCM the message "Sanguine's Watching" appears and selected in quests pannel.

In the mod menu there are just "uninstall" no "install" or "Begin" it's normal ? The mod working ?

 

Thanks a lot from France.

S'il y a des français n'hésitez pas ^^

[jfraser]

Hi, I have two problem :

 

First, when my charac is enslaved, all her gear is lost (the owner didn't hav anything), and if I check limited removal, she keeps everything...

 

Secondly, I have a bug each time my char is raped, a box saying me that my collar compel my to drop my weapon...I don't have any weapons. Had this bug a long time ago, but i don't remember how i fixed it... I think it's link with the brawl bug patch....

 

Soooooo any idea ?

your gear is in a chest in sanguine's realm. You can access it next time you're transported there.

 

Make sure you don't have any spells assigned to your hands, including unarmed combat settings.

Hi,

I've recently installed this mod. Or should be good. But many things are wrong.

 

1) After the installation (MO) I've updated FNIS as usual and Loot. No Warning.

2)I launch SKSE, no crash. SD+ loaded... has been installed and before I can open MCM the message "Sanguine's Watching" appears and selected in quests pannel.

In the mod menu there are just "uninstall" no "install" or "Begin" it's normal ? The mod working ?

 

Thanks a lot from France.

S'il y a des français n'hésitez pas ^^

is this on a new game or an old save?

[ArtKO171]

On a old save just after the prologue.

[Malakos]

 

Hi, I have two problem :

 

First, when my charac is enslaved, all her gear is lost (the owner didn't hav anything), and if I check limited removal, she keeps everything...

 

Secondly, I have a bug each time my char is raped, a box saying me that my collar compel my to drop my weapon...I don't have any weapons. Had this bug a long time ago, but i don't remember how i fixed it... I think it's link with the brawl bug patch....

 

Soooooo any idea ?

your gear is in a chest in sanguine's realm. You can access it next time you're transported there.

 

Make sure you don't have any spells assigned to your hands, including unarmed combat settings.

 

 

Ok thanks

 

Unarmed combat settings...how is that even possible ?

 

[jfraser]

 

 

Hi, I have two problem :

 

First, when my charac is enslaved, all her gear is lost (the owner didn't hav anything), and if I check limited removal, she keeps everything...

 

Secondly, I have a bug each time my char is raped, a box saying me that my collar compel my to drop my weapon...I don't have any weapons. Had this bug a long time ago, but i don't remember how i fixed it... I think it's link with the brawl bug patch....

 

Soooooo any idea ?

your gear is in a chest in sanguine's realm. You can access it next time you're transported there.

 

Make sure you don't have any spells assigned to your hands, including unarmed combat settings.

 

Ok thanks

 

Unarmed combat settings...how is that even possible ?

many combat mods include an unarmed attack option. In order for those to work, the game has to view them as weapons.

On a old save just after the prologue.

any time you add mods to an existing save, even one where nothing has happened, errors will occur. Try it on a new game just to see if the error persists.

[Malakos]

 

 

 

Hi, I have two problem :

 

First, when my charac is enslaved, all her gear is lost (the owner didn't hav anything), and if I check limited removal, she keeps everything...

 

Secondly, I have a bug each time my char is raped, a box saying me that my collar compel my to drop my weapon...I don't have any weapons. Had this bug a long time ago, but i don't remember how i fixed it... I think it's link with the brawl bug patch....

 

Soooooo any idea ?

your gear is in a chest in sanguine's realm. You can access it next time you're transported there.

 

Make sure you don't have any spells assigned to your hands, including unarmed combat settings.

 

Ok thanks

 

Unarmed combat settings...how is that even possible ?

many combat mods include an unarmed attack option. In order for those to work, the game has to view them as weapons.

On a old save just after the prologue.

any time you add mods to an existing save, even one where nothing has happened, errors will occur. Try it on a new game just to see if the error persists.

 

 

Ha yes, I have a mod who let me kick with my feet when my arms are tied up....but i don't remember which...erf

[ArtKO171]

Ok, ty Jfrazer. I'll test this evening.

[DeepBlueFrog]

SD skips the Begin and Install stages automatically. You should just be seeing uninstall when you start the mod.

 

The mod that allows you to fight with your feet when bound is Devious Devices and has no impact on the issue with invisible weapons. Try sharing your load order.

[jfraser]

SD skips the Begin and Install stages automatically. You should just be seeing uninstall when you start the mod.

 

 

ah, see, I thought he meant the ONLY thing he saw in the MCM was "uninstall". This makes much more sense.

[Malakos]

SD skips the Begin and Install stages automatically. You should just be seeing uninstall when you start the mod.

 

The mod that allows you to fight with your feet when bound is Devious Devices and has no impact on the issue with invisible weapons. Try sharing your load order.

 

Okay, here's my load order

 

Thanks !

 

load_order.txt

[DeepBlueFrog]

Many mods I don't know there .. maybe look into Balanced magic? Équiped invisible spells can count as weapons.

 

Also, drop zzEstrus if you are using Estrus chaurus+. It only needs the files from the original Estrus. Not the ESP.

[jfraser]

When he says "drop" Estrus, he does not mean uninstall it. Keep it installed but just uncheck it in your mod organiser so the files are still there but the mod is not active.

[Malakos]

Many mods I don't know there .. maybe look into Balanced magic? Équiped invisible spells can count as weapons.

 

Also, drop zzEstrus if you are using Estrus chaurus+. It only needs the files from the original Estrus. Not the ESP.

 

Ok gonna do it. And try without Balanced Magic

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

Many mods I don't know there .. maybe look into Balanced magic? Équiped invisible spells can count as weapons.

 

Also, drop zzEstrus if you are using Estrus chaurus+. It only needs the files from the original Estrus. Not the ESP.

Ok gonna do it. And try without Balanced Magic

Non need to disable balanced magic.. instead read its download page and see if there is any mention of invisible spell or weapons.

 

Disabling things randomly to test things out creates more problems than it solves

[darknotfear]

I think there is a conflict between this and alternate start, every time I start the game with alternate start, the kneeling and crawling wont works. but if i start the game by "coc qasmoke" then it works immediately.

 

 

 

Edit: when start with alternate start, this function works fine after an enslavement.(except the kneeling animation is different)

[olonolo]

Hi skyrimll, I've been testing the slave training part of the game (v3.5.8) with about 12 to 13 npc's, and thought I'll share a few issues in case you may want to include these fixes in the next release. You may be aware of some of these already.

 

-  level 1, first day, end of day, "failed your daily task" always comes up, tried doing everything, food/no food, gold/no gold, sex, beat. PC gets a beating. Message in upper left corner will show daily task complete 600+%.

 

- owner task "wants you to themselves" always fails at the end of day no matter what you do. PC is alone in a house with the owner, upper left corner shows task complete 600+%. PC gets a beating.

 

- the info box at the start of a new day, message at the bottom "mainly defiant 0" hasn't changed throughout the game. Seems to be stuck.

 

- at the beginning with the first couple of npc's as owners, the PC always received DD gear. Later on the PC only gets Zaz cuffs and collars. The game still considers the cuffs as armbinders.

 

- there seems to be a lot of issues with calling up animations, call one- play another, overlaps etc. For instance at the end of day if you're in a sex scene and message shows "failed your daily task" the whipping and sex scenes play at the same time. (there are no problems with calling animations from other mods)

 

- game often crashes at the end of a whipping scene.

 

- one day the PC may have 80 allowance points, the next day it may only show 11.

 

- shouldn't call an oral when the PC is wearing a gag.

 

- regarding owner profiles, all npc's tested wanted only food or valuables. Not one asked for sex or beatings.

 

There are more, mainly minor issues but I saw your list of things to do and I don't envy your work load. Does the line "You sure know your way around collars and chains..." have any significance or is it just generic copy? Seems to come up a lot and it's bugging me.   

 

Oh, and btw. female Sanguine needs a strap on. 

[ArtKO171]

Just before I make a bad install. This mod don't need DA anymore right ? Thank you.

[ArtKO171]

Hey, I launch a new game and still "Sanguine's watching" problem. The quest is selected and the status show "Uninstall options" there are no crash, no other bugs in the differents mods.

Load order pb ? Thanks.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hey, I launch a new game and still "Sanguine's watching" problem. The quest is selected and the status show "Uninstall options" there are no crash, no other bugs in the differents mods.

Load order pb ? Thanks.

That is normal.

No problem there.

 

The main quests start automatically and 'Sanguine is watching' should be displayed when the mod starts.