Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Guest]

I'm getting a problem where when my character is in a device while getting whipped (like a hanging from a rack), she gets knocked out of the device animation so she's just on the ground. It will keep forcing itself back into the device animation just to get knocked back out of it. Is there anyway to prevent that from happening?

[Golgo13]

I got a nerve block a couple weeks ago, but the doctor was in such an hurry to get to a meeting, and seemed kind of pissed that I hadn't been able to come in earlier than my appointment time to accommodate his meeting, that he did it really quickly and half-assed.  So, although it should be working by now, it feels as though I got no nerve block, at all, and I still feel terrible.  Consequently, I'm not getting any closer to being able to sort out this Nifscope stuff-- my migraine shaves at least 60 points off my I.Q. 

 

Is there a clearer guide, anywhere, to getting Bodyslide to fit your outfits to your body than http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25180-unofficial-bodyslide-2outfit-studio-tutorials/?  I found those instructions to be too ambiguous and unclear for someone who is actually just trying to learn how to use it for the first time.  After coming so close to getting all of this stuff to work, I'm on the verge of uninstalling it all and going back to UNPB-BBP just to be able to play the game, again.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I got a nerve block a couple weeks ago, but the doctor was in such an hurry to get to a meeting, and seemed kind of pissed that I hadn't been able to come in earlier than my appointment time to accommodate his meeting, that he did it really quickly and half-assed.  So, although it should be working by now, it feels as though I got no nerve block, at all, and I still feel terrible.  Consequently, I'm not getting any closer to being able to sort out this Nifscope stuff-- my migraine shaves at least 60 points off my I.Q. 

 

Is there a clearer guide, anywhere, to getting Bodyslide to fit your outfits to your body than http://www.loverslab.com/topic/25180-unofficial-bodyslide-2outfit-studio-tutorials/?  I found those instructions to be too ambiguous and unclear for someone who is actually just trying to learn how to use it for the first time.  After coming so close to getting all of this stuff to work, I'm on the verge of uninstalling it all and going back to UNPB-BBP just to be able to play the game, again.

 

Sorry to hear that.

 

I never try to convert my own outfits to Bodyslide for the same confusing reasons.

 

There are packages already available for most of the outfits I want to see converted anyway.

 

For example these for Devious Devices depending on the type of body mesh you are using (assuming that's what you are looking for).

 

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1230-devious-devices-bodyslide-cbbe-ct77-body-tbbpintegrationexpansion/

 

or

 

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1236-devious-devices-devious-expansion-for-bodyslide2-hdt-preg-by-rustyxxl/

 

All they require is to install the files, open Body slide, select your body and the groups for the outfits and generate the meshes.

No messing around with Outfit Studio.

[Sugumuk]

 

 

@krominof - The source of your problems is most likely SD Patches, since that mod was written to SD+ 2.0.

 

You need to remove it (as well as the DDfh SDpatch) and delete scripts starting with _sd in your scripts folder.

 

Tried that, too. But I still have the problem that I don't get enslaved. Everything happens just as I described before. I get teleported slightly out of reach of my aggressors, they turn non-aggressive, and that's about it. I updated DA, checked all the DA settings, everything seems okay. I have no idea what goes wrong.

 

 

That sounds like DA is working at least.

 

Try re-registering the quests from DA (there is an option for that in the menu) and try looking at the logs after a failed attempt at enslavement. There should be some comments about SD enslavement and why it failed.

 

 

I did reset the DA quests and checked the logs. Seems like I have figured something out. If I am reading the log output correctly, the Actor I was defeated by didn't belong to a faction that was capable of enslavement. He was one of the villagers of Riverwood.

But he definitely was able to enslave me in the previous mod version when I made him attack me via console -> startcombat player.

Have there been any changes regarding factions? Because being enslaved by a villager who would visit the inn in the evening and make me dance there was really fun. Would be a pitty to miss that out.

Anyway, I tried it with a random bandit now, and it worked, kind of. I blacked out, I woke back up, wasn't teleported this time, but when I woke back up, the bandit attacked me again. I had to manually trigger a sexlab scene to start the enslavement event. That's a workaround I already had figured out for the previous version. I got enslaved, everything worked nicely until the first rape scene. There I got stuck in the first Animation of the scene. I have auto progress of sexlab scenes turned off, but wasn't able to progress the scene by pressing my set key either.

I have aborted for now, because it's really late (or early) around here. At least I finally got some new results, and what I've seen from the new version so far makes me eager to enjoy it in all it's glory

Thanks for your work and constant support, I hope I can figure out what causes the last few errors I get.

[Myrdden42]

 

So, not sure if I'm missing something here, but the whole enslavement event never happens. You get attacked, go into bleed out, try to surrender, they beat you up, sex you, then... nothing. It tells me to make an escape before they notice but they never notice anything. They don't attack, have any dialogue, and no amount of waiting or walking triggers any event whatsoever. Do I have to wait for some ungodly amount of time or are they legitimately broken? I am using SD Patches.

 

'escape before they notice anything' ... that sounds like SexLab Helpless or 'SexLab submit with progression' are interfering with the defeat process.

 

Make sure to increase the trigger for defeat in Death Alternative (by changing the Health Threshold value for example).

 

To be sure - try to manually surrender to your aggressor next time using the '\' key and selecting 'Submit'.

 

 

I have neither of those. I've modified DA to make sure that the SD event is the only thing that can happen, and now that event doesn't trigger, but none do. I go into bleedout, black out, and then just stand up with the aggressors being non-hostile and nothing further happens. Surrendering does nothing.

[Karin]

I find kinda funny bug in newest version or its never happen me before. Your companion can enslave you in combat o.O Its happen me twice in similar situation. First time I had 2 rune near me, when I fall on knee. Bandit hide bow and run on me with sword. All was ok But before last hit to blackout he move hit me and trigger both of rune. So I blackout and he die. Its start enslaving me but becouse no one around Sofia become my master. Second time its happen with monster from F.E.M.A.L.E. They are human but have gustom armor. Same situation she die during final hit. Becouse dot spell and Sofia become my master.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

I find kinda funny bug in newest version or its never happen me before. Your companion can enslave you in combat o.O Its happen me twice in similar situation. First time I had 2 rune near me, when I fall on knee. Bandit hide bow and run on me with sword. All was ok But before last hit to blackout he move hit me and trigger both of rune. So I blackout and he die. Its start enslaving me but becouse no one around Sofia become my master. Second time its happen with monster from F.E.M.A.L.E. They are human but have gustom armor. Same situation she die during final hit. Becouse dot spell and Sofia become my master.

 

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Maybe she is tired of being just a follower and REALLY likes your character?

 

I tried to minimize that situation but it is still possible to trigger it with dot like you said.

 

Edit: I just checked the code and it really should be happening only through 'I need a strong hand to guide me' - not in combat.

 

Are you using SD Patches by any chance? 

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

So, not sure if I'm missing something here, but the whole enslavement event never happens. You get attacked, go into bleed out, try to surrender, they beat you up, sex you, then... nothing. It tells me to make an escape before they notice but they never notice anything. They don't attack, have any dialogue, and no amount of waiting or walking triggers any event whatsoever. Do I have to wait for some ungodly amount of time or are they legitimately broken? I am using SD Patches.

 

'escape before they notice anything' ... that sounds like SexLab Helpless or 'SexLab submit with progression' are interfering with the defeat process.

 

Make sure to increase the trigger for defeat in Death Alternative (by changing the Health Threshold value for example).

 

To be sure - try to manually surrender to your aggressor next time using the '\' key and selecting 'Submit'.

 

 

I have neither of those. I've modified DA to make sure that the SD event is the only thing that can happen, and now that event doesn't trigger, but none do. I go into bleedout, black out, and then just stand up with the aggressors being non-hostile and nothing further happens. Surrendering does nothing.

 

 

It looks like you are among those for whom SD did not initialize properly.

 

Make sure you are not using SD Patches. If you do, remove it and delete scripts starting with _sd in your script folder.

 

Try re-registering quests from DA using the option in the menu.

 

If that fails, you may have to run the uninstall option in SD+, save, run your save game through a save game cleaner tool and reinstall SD+.

[darkfender666]

I have to ask a thing..

 

I read the front page, the FAQ and the PDF but they are quite vague i am quite stuck (well i have obviously tons of backup saves but i'd like to learn the mechanics).

 

I am enslaved with collar and hands bound.

 

I gave gold and stuff to master, but it doesn t seem to go over -1.

 

can i have an idea on how many times do i have to satisfy master each day and how much gold?

Just to have an idea because i'd like to test if everything works fine so i can go on playing

 

Ty a  lot.

 

P.S. also i noticed the popup resist or submit (this is still from this mod i suppose) triggers even when during sexlab animations now.

Tested in a  totally new game.

Old saves doesn t seems to register SD in DA unfortunately so i started a new game.

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

I have to ask a thing..

 

I read the front page, the FAQ and the PDF but they are quite vague i am quite stuck (well i have obviously tons of backup saves but i'd like to learn the mechanics).

 

I am enslaved with collar and hands bound.

 

I gave gold and stuff to master, but it doesn t seem to go over -1.

 

can i have an idea on how many times do i have to satisfy master each day and how much gold?

Just to have an idea because i'd like to test if everything works fine so i can go on playing

 

Ty a  lot.

 

P.S. also i noticed the popup resist or submit (this is still from this mod i suppose) triggers even when during sexlab animations now.

Tested in a  totally new game.

Old saves doesn t seems to register SD in DA unfortunately so i started a new game.

 

The number to reach each day is randomly set for each master. It will appear in the logs after you select 'Why me' if you want to see it. Part of the game is to guess what it is.

 

As of the last update, it doesn't matter much as I made gold and food targets optional.

 

You will improve your master's disposition if you do reach the goals, but their disposition will not decrease if you miss the targets.

[darkfender666]

So what should i do @_@ to increase value?

 

Options are:

insulting (i guess i shouldn t)

Sex

Gold and items (master accepts gold only if you give an item also)

please

what do you want

 

Are the only options to increase rank "please" and what do "you want"? 

 

[Lyman the Lunatic]

Oh I forgot to mention about the falmer slave.

 

I'm not sure if this a Monster mod problem, but "Falmer Beast" can't be interacted to. Dawnguard frozen vampire falmer doesn't seem to interact to my char. at all while the other types of falmers (except the Falmer Beast) can't even get a break of my char. at all! Kinda sad since the vampire falmer is already naked. Seeing my char. get raped by a popsicle penis sounds kinky! (I have SDDawnguard on btw)

OK, the actual problem.

So, as I said that the falmers can't get a break of my char. You know how sometimes your char. will be forced into an idle pose before being raped by their master right? It happen while my char. was being raped by some other falmer. I guess my char. is hot in their opinion...

[dinomagick]

Any chance to have the blinders, arm-binders and harness made as 'optional', because it's a real detractor.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Any chance to have the blinders, arm-binders and harness made as 'optional', because it's a real detractor.

There are no harvess or armbinders in SD+

 

Make sure you don't have SD patches installed.

[xboronx]

Got once again the falmer slave from the daymoyl addon yesterday

 

This got me thinking, do you plan to make SD+ detect daymoyl falmer slavery? I think it would be an awesome experience if you have to do the falmer work from the daymoyl quest to earn merit points while the falmers also bug you SD+ style constantly molesting and raping you.

 

Also blackreach is nicely huge, might be a good place for your falmer queen addon you plan

[Zydar]

I assume that SD Cage is not compatible with the latest SD+? Also, would like a recommendation for a prostitution mod (if any) for earning gold during SD+ enslavement or is it intended that the PC would need to beg for gold instead?

[DeepBlueFrog]

I assume that SD Cage is not compatible with the latest SD+? Also, would like a recommendation for a prostitution mod (if any) for earning gold during SD+ enslavement or is it intended that the PC would need to beg for gold instead?

 

As far as I know, SD Cages doesn't require SD patches, so it should be compatible.

 

TDF prostitution is a nice, straightforward mod for earning coins on the side.

 

The next version of SD+ and Dialogues will allow easier prostitution options 'out of the box' at slavery level 3.

[Zydar]

 

I assume that SD Cage is not compatible with the latest SD+? Also, would like a recommendation for a prostitution mod (if any) for earning gold during SD+ enslavement or is it intended that the PC would need to beg for gold instead?

 

As far as I know, SD Cages doesn't require SD patches, so it should be compatible.

 

TDF prostitution is a nice, straightforward mod for earning coins on the side.

 

The next version of SD+ and Dialogues will allow easier prostitution options 'out of the box' at slavery level 3.

 

 

Thanks for the heads up. I was torn between Radiant Prostitution Tweaked and TDF Aggressive Prostitution since I liked the former but it doesn't work everywhere as well as not being updated regularly like the latter. Quite limited in the esp slot in my load order. I hope that your way of doing it will be immersive as well, since during enslavement that the PC is not really 'selling' her services at this point.

 

As for the SD Cages, would SD+ have any interaction with it?

[shinji72]

Hi again. Can confirm that the sleeping feature is indeed working. While no way to get a train. Even after dancing, (with the someone else applauding) it's only the owner to have his way with my pc.

I thing that bother me is that I'm no more receiving (in the latest version) the message about my slave level increasing. I've got something wrong?
In one full enslavement experience I had, the owner released me after the canonical 3 days. But I never had the dialogue option "can I work for you?" to actually work. Everything time the owner replied he didn't trust me enough... and it went on until he set me free. 

 

I must say i miss a bit the "master following you" feature (it's still in place for the falmers? In one case the falmer owner did seem to follow me around, at least inside the same dungeon).

Same goes for "the find a weapon and cut yourself free" feature. Since I got often enslaved there should be a "faster way" to resolve enslavement. For someone with high level pickpocket it may be easy. But frankly a low level Pc will never get free via pickpocketing (as I understood you need to have at least a skill of 50)

 

So I would suggest to accelerate the slave level gaining. Because the most interesting stuff happens at level 3.

 

Anyway I really like the idea of the prostitution dialogue integrated in SD. With previous versions, I used Working girls. The roleplaying is that the owner is whoring the pc around (to do something special, because they can have the basic sex for free.

The group rate option of working girl was especially entertaining.... 

 

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Hi again. Can confirm that the sleeping feature is indeed working. While no way to get a train. Even after dancing, (with the someone else applauding) it's only the owner to have his way with my pc.

 

The queue system with or without dance is still flaky. I will look into that in a bit. For now, I still have balance issues to fix.

 

I thing that bother me is that I'm no more receiving (in the latest version) the message about my slave level increasing. I've got something wrong?

In one full enslavement experience I had, the owner released me after the canonical 3 days. But I never had the dialogue option "can I work for you?" to actually work. Everything time the owner replied he didn't trust me enough... and it went on until he set me free. 

 

I discovered serious issues with the calculation of Trust today. I am working on that for, hopefully, an update tonight.

'Can I work for you' doesn't exist anymore. Instead, you can use new options under 'Please?', as well as the more immersive 'I have something for you'. 

I want to revisit real work options later, such as delivering or fetching something for your master, being a bodyguard, serving for a certain amount of time ... that sort of thing.

 

I must say i miss a bit the "master following you" feature (it's still in place for the falmers? In one case the falmer owner did seem to follow me around, at least inside the same dungeon).

 

That's still in place.

It is automatic for Falmers since you can't really talk to them.

I just made it easier to trigger in Dialogues today, so you can look forward to dragging your master around soon.

 

Same goes for "the find a weapon and cut yourself free" feature. Since I got often enslaved there should be a "faster way" to resolve enslavement. For someone with high level pickpocket it may be easy. But frankly a low level Pc will never get free via pickpocketing (as I understood you need to have at least a skill of 50)

 

I have to think about a better way to do that. 

In the current system, the collar prohibits you from hitting your master. 

I want to make it possible to wield a weapon and fight for your owner, but I also miss the idea of breaking free using tools other than lockpicks. 

Any suggestion to handle both situations is welcome.

 

So I would suggest to accelerate the slave level gaining. Because the most interesting stuff happens at level 3.

 

Slavery levels 1 and 2 are about breaking in the slave. Once you reached level 3, you are a full slave and you will remain at that level for a while unless you go a long time without enslavement.

 

I will have to think of a better way to customize the exposure triggers to go from a level to another.

 

For now, you can set your min slavery level to 2 or 3 in MCM if you want to get to the full slavery faster.

 

Anyway I really like the idea of the prostitution dialogue integrated in SD. With previous versions, I used Working girls. The roleplaying is that the owner is whoring the pc around (to do something special, because they can have the basic sex for free.

The group rate option of working girl was especially entertaining.... 

 

By the way.. I just added automatic feeding time from your master if you are enslaved to a vampire

With a chance to become a vampire yourself of course.

[Guest Sparko53557]

I'm getting an error saying my Devious Devices integration isnt up to date with SD+, although I had just updated that mod. If I did update DD integration should I worry about anything? 

[Teddar]

 

 

 

By the way.. I just added automatic feeding time from your master if you are enslaved to a vampire

With a chance to become a vampire yourself of course.

 

 

Woohoo!!!!!

[DeepBlueFrog]

I'm getting an error saying my Devious Devices integration isnt up to date with SD+, although I had just updated that mod. If I did update DD integration should I worry about anything? 

 

That means something didn't update correctly.

 

Are you using Mod Organizer?

 

Some people had a similar issue with MO installing an older version when they thought they installed the latest update.

[Guest Sparko53557]

 

I'm getting an error saying my Devious Devices integration isnt up to date with SD+, although I had just updated that mod. If I did update DD integration should I worry about anything? 

 

That means something didn't update correctly.

 

Are you using Mod Organizer?

 

Some people had a similar issue with MO installing an older version when they thought they installed the latest update.

 

I'm using mod organizer, but I did the DD Integration installation manually 

[spartan40]

This sort of just started... whenever I enter in to the dialogue with the master and say; please...  he says, "That's it!" or "Lets go boys" or whatever and then the game subsequently crashes. 

However I was able to use this very feature a while back. So I'm guessing it's a papyrus log error somewhere and I'm totally lost when it comes to that. I'll upload one later. 

 

I can still play the mod. Just can't ask that query. Any insight anyone?