Sanguine Debauchery (SD+) (January 2025)

[Ashra XIII]

I am dying for the next update. My vacation is ticking away and I want to play with this before I have to go to work next week!

[Yamamaya]

Great job, I like this mod, if "Change Look" is optional will be better, I always get crush when master want to change my look

oh and dance doesn't work.don't know why. 

anyway,keep great cool working!

[windu190]

Great job, I like this mod, if "Change Look" is optional will be better, I always get crush when master want to change my look

oh and dance doesn't work.don't know why. 

anyway,keep great cool working!

 

The dance animation is disabled for now, will probably be re-enabled in the next update. 

[JahReit]

 

Thanks for all your hard work skyrimll

 

I still have the problem with the bindings.  Whenever the slave faction goes to 0 for whatever reason; master dies, my PC escapes,  the bindings, hand and feet, not only mysteriously and in-explicitly come off, but also disappear from items.

 

Do you have hardcore mode on? Without toggling hardcore on that behavior is to be expected.

 

yes, hardcore is on every mod.  This isn't my first post about this problem and I still have no answer.

Are you telling me that non-hardcore make the bindings disappear without any reason or explanation also?

[Guest]

More on the problem Kitzune and I are having:

 

In the script _SDQS_sprigganslave , there is an if clause with the condition 

!( kRef2 as Actor ).GetCurrentScene() && !( kRef2 as Actor ).IsInCombat() && !( kRef2 as Actor ).GetDialogueTarget()

It seems like somehow these aren't updating properly once the If loop fails, and that dashing is somehow triggering one of the conditions. My extremely brute solution for now is to replace the condition with a tautology so that the events always fire. The effect of this is that the game will sometimes fire the event in combat, killing me, but I don't mind the occasional reload as much as I mind the quest breaking behavior.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

Thanks for all your hard work skyrimll

 

I still have the problem with the bindings.  Whenever the slave faction goes to 0 for whatever reason; master dies, my PC escapes,  the bindings, hand and feet, not only mysteriously and in-explicitly come off, but also disappear from items.

 

Do you have hardcore mode on? Without toggling hardcore on that behavior is to be expected.

 

yes, hardcore is on every mod.  This isn't my first post about this problem and I still have no answer.

Are you telling me that non-hardcore make the bindings disappear without any reason or explanation also?

 

 

No - non-hardcore removes the bindings automatically to make escapes easier.

The hardcore option should keep the bindings in place. 

 

I noticed a reproducible issue in the upcoming version of SD+ where bindings go missing if you are enslaved, your master dies (trap, bear encounter, stomped by a giant), and you get enslaved again before you get a chance to get free of your chains.

 

Is there a chance that sort of sequence happened to you at some point?

 

We are trying to figure out what is causing the bindings to refuse to stay in place when that happens and how to fix it when it happens.

[DeepBlueFrog]

More on the problem Kitzune and I are having:

 

In the script _SDQS_sprigganslave , there is an if clause with the condition 

!( kRef2 as Actor ).GetCurrentScene() && !( kRef2 as Actor ).IsInCombat() && !( kRef2 as Actor ).GetDialogueTarget()

It seems like somehow these aren't updating properly once the If loop fails, and that dashing is somehow triggering one of the conditions. My extremely brute solution for now is to replace the condition with a tautology so that the events always fire. The effect of this is that the game will sometimes fire the event in combat, killing me, but I don't mind the occasional reload as much as I mind the quest breaking behavior.

 

Thanks... that will help with finding a more long term solution.

[DeepBlueFrog]

Great job, I like this mod, if "Change Look" is optional will be better, I always get crush when master want to change my look

oh and dance doesn't work.don't know why. 

anyway,keep great cool working!

 

If you are crashing when you open the Race Menu, you need to install this:

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33226/?

 

The menu will be optional in the next version.

[windu190]

 

Great job, I like this mod, if "Change Look" is optional will be better, I always get crush when master want to change my look

oh and dance doesn't work.don't know why. 

anyway,keep great cool working!

 

If you are crashing when you open the Race Menu, you need to install this:

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33226/?

 

The menu will be optional in the next version.

 

 

I can confirm that, I had the same problem until I downloaded that mod. 

[jonjonzz]

 

 

Thanks for all your hard work skyrimll

 

I still have the problem with the bindings.  Whenever the slave faction goes to 0 for whatever reason; master dies, my PC escapes,  the bindings, hand and feet, not only mysteriously and in-explicitly come off, but also disappear from items.

 

Do you have hardcore mode on? Without toggling hardcore on that behavior is to be expected.

 

yes, hardcore is on every mod.  This isn't my first post about this problem and I still have no answer.

Are you telling me that non-hardcore make the bindings disappear without any reason or explanation also?

 

 

No, without hardcore enabled you should lose your bindings as soon as you are free (no matter what led to your freedom). That is what I had gathered was happening from your post. I have done extensive testing with hardcore mode and I cannot reproduce your issue while that mode is enabled. Please be absolutely sure you have ticked the "Hardcore" toggle on the config page. If that doesn't work it is likely that you have old conflicting scripts. 

[JahReit]

when I said I always use hardcore in every mod, that's what I mean - except submit where hardcore is the opposite.  And when I said "if slave faction hits 0 the bindings disappear, and I don't mean they just unbind, THEY DISAPPEAR, gone, nowhere to be found, not in my inventory or on the ground...disappear! I escaped from the master, escape timer finishes, bindings, hand and leg, disappear.  I lead the master to his death, binding, hand and leg, disappear. If I pick up a weapon...there goes the bindings.  Don't know how I can be more plain than that.

[AwfulArchdemon]

when I said I always use hardcore in every mod, that's what I mean - except submit where hardcore is the opposite.  And when I said "if slave faction hits 0 the bindings disappear, and I don't mean they just unbind, THEY DISAPPEAR, gone, nowhere to be found, not in my inventory or on the ground...disappear! I escaped from the master, escape timer finishes, bindings, hand and leg, disappear.  I lead the master to his death, binding, hand and leg, disappear. Don't know how I can be more plain than that.

Are you still in the bound position? (hands behind back?)

[JahReit]

 

when I said I always use hardcore in every mod, that's what I mean - except submit where hardcore is the opposite.  And when I said "if slave faction hits 0 the bindings disappear, and I don't mean they just unbind, THEY DISAPPEAR, gone, nowhere to be found, not in my inventory or on the ground...disappear! I escaped from the master, escape timer finishes, bindings, hand and leg, disappear.  I lead the master to his death, binding, hand and leg, disappear. Don't know how I can be more plain than that.

Are you still in the bound position? (hands behind back?)

 

no.  no bindings, nothing bound, nothing that looks, acts, resembles bound.

[AwfulArchdemon]

 

 

when I said I always use hardcore in every mod, that's what I mean - except submit where hardcore is the opposite.  And when I said "if slave faction hits 0 the bindings disappear, and I don't mean they just unbind, THEY DISAPPEAR, gone, nowhere to be found, not in my inventory or on the ground...disappear! I escaped from the master, escape timer finishes, bindings, hand and leg, disappear.  I lead the master to his death, binding, hand and leg, disappear. Don't know how I can be more plain than that.

Are you still in the bound position? (hands behind back?)

 

no.  no bindings, nothing bound, nothing that looks, acts, resembles bound.

 

So your enslavement has been ended (SD doesn't realize you were ever enslaved). I have to believe it's an incompatibility, simply because it's an issue I've never heard of. If you lose your bindings with hardcore on, SD is forgetting all about you. Do you use any other slavery-related mods? Any other problems at all with mods in general?

[Yamamaya]

 

Great job, I like this mod, if "Change Look" is optional will be better, I always get crush when master want to change my look

oh and dance doesn't work.don't know why. 

anyway,keep great cool working!

 

If you are crashing when you open the Race Menu, you need to install this:

 

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33226/?

 

The menu will be optional in the next version.

 

Awesome~ How could I even didn't know there is a crash killer mod! Thank you! Now everything goes well!

[Yamamaya]

 

Great job, I like this mod, if "Change Look" is optional will be better, I always get crush when master want to change my look

oh and dance doesn't work.don't know why. 

anyway,keep great cool working!

 

The dance animation is disabled for now, will probably be re-enabled in the next update. 

 

thank you for telling me this~

[Yamamaya]

Oh,and another thing I feel wrong,in hardcore mode there shouldn't be a safeword I think, safeword makes me feel,,, it's,, ,well, 'safe', I think   

[DeepBlueFrog]

Oh,and another thing I feel wrong,in hardcore mode there shouldn't be a safeword I think, safeword makes me feel,,, it's,, ,well, 'safe', I think   

 

In theory - yes

 

In practice, the safeword is more to allow you to abort enslavement in situations that were not foreseen. For example, if you got enslaved to a Giant by accident... or a troll ... or a bunny.

[AwfulArchdemon]

Oh,and another thing I feel wrong,in hardcore mode there shouldn't be a safeword I think, safeword makes me feel,,, it's,, ,well, 'safe', I think   

It can be necessary, especially to alpha testers. For everyone else, it's still a very nice thing to have available. Some people request these things, you know? Sometimes, more options isn't always better, but sometimes, it is. Just a luxury certain people find useful.

[DeepBlueFrog]

 

 

 

when I said I always use hardcore in every mod, that's what I mean - except submit where hardcore is the opposite.  And when I said "if slave faction hits 0 the bindings disappear, and I don't mean they just unbind, THEY DISAPPEAR, gone, nowhere to be found, not in my inventory or on the ground...disappear! I escaped from the master, escape timer finishes, bindings, hand and leg, disappear.  I lead the master to his death, binding, hand and leg, disappear. Don't know how I can be more plain than that.

Are you still in the bound position? (hands behind back?)

 

no.  no bindings, nothing bound, nothing that looks, acts, resembles bound.

 

So your enslavement has been ended (SD doesn't realize you were ever enslaved). I have to believe it's an incompatibility, simply because it's an issue I've never heard of. If you lose your bindings with hardcore on, SD is forgetting all about you. Do you use any other slavery-related mods? Any other problems at all with mods in general?

 

 

It doesn't have to be slavery related.

 

Skinny Dipping will remove all of your items when you get submerged in water.

I am sure inventory or outfit management mods would do the same... maybe even things like body suits.

[AwfulArchdemon]

It doesn't have to be slavery related.

 

Skinny Dipping will remove all of your items when you get submerged in water.

I am sure inventory or outfit management mods would do the same... maybe even things like body suits.

 

None of those things have ever affected me like that. I've used an epic # of different outfits, for different bodies, even used the wrong equipment for my body-type just to test, and recorded all of my results.

 

Slave-related mods have been the culprit in my experience. (just sayin' )

[Yamamaya]

 

Oh,and another thing I feel wrong,in hardcore mode there shouldn't be a safeword I think, safeword makes me feel,,, it's,, ,well, 'safe', I think   

 

In theory - yes

 

In practice, the safeword is more to allow you to abort enslavement in situations that were not foreseen. For example, if you got enslaved to a Giant by accident... or a troll ... or a bunny.

 

but if I got enslaved by those things, can't I just run away?

 

PS,when I sleep after enslaved,game crushed.    and during sex my master always walking back and forth,  when he stop,the position doesn't match, I don't know it's just me or everyone have those problems.

[Yamamaya]

after been enslaved,I can ask my master's companions for help and they happily said 'of course!',is this supposed to be this way? and after they untied me, they attack me immediately,I been played~

[wren888]

 

 

Oh,and another thing I feel wrong,in hardcore mode there shouldn't be a safeword I think, safeword makes me feel,,, it's,, ,well, 'safe', I think   

 

In theory - yes

 

In practice, the safeword is more to allow you to abort enslavement in situations that were not foreseen. For example, if you got enslaved to a Giant by accident... or a troll ... or a bunny.

 

but if I got enslaved by those things, can't I just run away?

 

PS,when I sleep after enslaved,game crushed.    and during sex my master always walking back and forth,  when he stop,the position doesn't match, I don't know it's just me or everyone have those problems.

 

 

Don't underestimate the bunnies:

"We dare not risk another frontal assault. That rabbit's dynamite." . . . . "RUN AWAY. RUN AWAY." -- Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

 

(I hope the diversion was acceptable. Cheers.)

 

[DeepBlueFrog]

Now that would be a good mod.... the Holy hand grenade of Antioch... only effective against bunnies.