SMP Head HPH or UBE

[LoneGentleman]

4 minutes ago, Fatal said:

@LoneGentlemanSorry for that long delay, I was trying some stuff. I ripped out Softbody and the issue is still there but it is far better. I remembered there was issues prior to the mod but it is better than I remembered. I still want softbody installed but at least now I know what is causing the problem and know what I need to work on fixing. Thanks for talking this over with me. I know there isn't a solution but at least I know what is causing the problem and what to fix.

 

Thank you for your assistance

 

I would think the solution would be to align it better so the penis is not smothering the face. As much as it would be great if we could get absolutely perfect dick to face smothering physics. Feel free to copy the alignments I provided and see if that makes it better. Of course, you might need to adjust a bit based on your setup.

Edited Monday at 09:55 PM by LoneGentleman

[crashit123]

 

1 hour ago, Unknowing-e said:

Hey @crashit123, I have returned from my journey thru the rabbit hole and I've came back with gifts.

Can you give these a test, I manage to get it working on load order. Need verification if it works for others. Also I think you mentioned but make sure you have the latest of version of FSMP.

To install just have them overwrite over the originals.

Jill Follower - HPH Patch.zip 308.65 kB · 1 download Orphelia Follower - HPH Patch.zip 294.63 kB · 1 download

 

It works :D. Great job man, let me know when/if you will share the tool I would like to try that too if that's ok. 

 

I was worried for a bit because Oprhelia looked weird but turns out that her smp earings are buggy, changed them to other smp earings and voila it just works.

 

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[Unknowing-e]

18 minutes ago, crashit123 said:

 

 

It works :D. Great job man, let me know when/if you will share the tool I would like to try that too if that's ok. 

 

I was worried for a bit because Oprhelia looked weird but turns out that her smp earings are buggy, changed them to other smp earings and voila it just works.

 

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That's good to hear. Yeah followers with custom races appeared to be a challenge. There might be some oddities with the conversion.

Umm sure give me about a week. Need to clean it up and organize the pipeline. So its a one click and done type deal. 

In the time being if you have other followers or population mod, you are anyone else wants me to try converting let me know.

[Predator-RJ]

On 6/26/2026 at 10:38 PM, Merlin Wizzard said:

This mod needs an update to work with latest FSMP-HDT 3.3

Hi, why? it is working normally.

[hentaiyour]

Hello, I've been trying to convert the NPC from B and B 126, but no matter what method I use, it always shows 'the vertex count of the reference and chosen shape is not the same'. What should I do?

[crashit123]

38 minutes ago, hentaiyour said:

Hello, I've been trying to convert the NPC from B and B 126, but no matter what method I use, it always shows 'the vertex count of the reference and chosen shape is not the same'. What should I do?

 

It's not HPH head. I check it in face nif. (ex Niem Follower\Meshes\actors\character\FaceGenData\FaceGeom\Niem_Follower.esp). If Num Vertices is around ~1000 it's low poly if ~3500 it's HPH.

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There might be a way to convert low poly NPC's to HPH but I have no idea how to do it.

 

12 hours ago, Unknowing-e said:

That's good to hear. Yeah followers with custom races appeared to be a challenge. There might be some oddities with the conversion.

Umm sure give me about a week. Need to clean it up and organize the pipeline. So its a one click and done type deal. 

In the time being if you have other followers or population mod, you are anyone else wants me to try converting let me know.

 

Sure please convert these if you can, I picked 6 followers 1 each form different creators:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/131577?tab=files

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/131610?tab=files

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/63959?tab=files  Valentine Follower Hair B - CBBE or CBBE 3BA Edition

https://www.mediafire.com/file/xdpqod0niwxyhg0/Sissy_Follower_Beta1.1.7z/file

https://workupload.com/file/RyMhhUK6Sb6

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fpaQBQVAk6Ye-qHaJuHY94boJnTS_iXw/view

 

[Predator-RJ]

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On 6/27/2026 at 9:18 PM, wren888 said:

Hi, Predator.

 

I appreciate your hard work on this mod and also your ongoing responses to users' posts.

 

After many hours trying to get your mod to work for my character, I partially solved one of two problems I'm having.

 

Problem 1: I got the mouth and lips to work on small- and medium-sized phalluses by opening the PPA tool using F1 and changing some things. Namely, I checked the "Oral" box under "Contexts," I moved the max penis length and girth sliders from 0 to their highest levels, and I increased the maximum big aah slider to its highest level, which I believe is 30. However, on large size phalluses, the victim still doesn't open her mouth wide enough to accommodate. I tried increasing the other phonemes as well, but I couldn't see any significant change.

 

Problem 2: the victim's throat does not expand or contract at all. Though I read your advice not to open the PPA tool and adjust the three throat sliders, I tried that anyway. There was no change, so I moved them back.

 

I tested the mod using a humanoid with a huge phallus and with a chaurus. The animations were mostly Billyy, with one or two by ZaZ and by Fluffy Fox.

 

I tried unchecking the PPA overrides\modifiers box. I recall in one of your posts that the PPA config I'm supposed to use it yours. I didn't see one with your name on it, so I tried using the default one and the OSMP_Head_PPA.toml one. Changes using the OSMP one resulted in the mouth and lips to work properly. Consequently, I spent little time with the default one. I tried moving the positions of the actors with no helpful results except of course when I moved the assailant so far away from the victim that the huge penis barely touched her. Then there was no need for her mouth to open very wide. PPA is working properly for me with both humanoids and chauruses.

 

If there's any information I'm neglecting to tell you, please let me know.

 

If you would be so kind as to help me fix whatever I'm messing up, I would appreciate it.

 

All the best to you.

 

 

 

Hi, thanks a lot!!! 

about 1°, if you made PPA mouth enter "hole" correct in the center of the mouth and a little outside in range like top of the nose that alredy make things work much better, now about the sliders for the phonemes expressions that is very dependant on the preset you use, what i have been seeing is that people have presets that use almost ALL the sliders, and or even phoneme expression ones to make heads, that is a big problem, but can be more or less mitigated by adjusting the sliders in PPA to that especifc use ( bare ming other actors may work worst because of the configs made for just one actor), you saying that your actor does not open the mouth enought seems to be one of the problematic cases, or you have othe mods like conditional expressions or anyo ther that also does expressions and they are fighting with each other so the mouth does not open fully or also close opens in the animations (that should not happen at all), if you use Sex lab, try to disable PPA expression system and use only Sex lab one to test, there you have a single value to open the mouth put that at 100% and should be a pretty big "AHH" in the character, and then test to see if the collision reacts better, if so you need to edit further the PPA sliders delete or add more for your case.
-Note: character mouth does not need to open with a matching size for what will entere there since SMP will make the lips wrap around for most cases, unless is something bigger thaen a horse.... then mod cant make miracles XD

About 2°, did you install the PPA part in the Fomod? if not it wont work

 

And my  PPA config is that file  "SMP_Head_PPA.tom", has a lot more sliders for the expression system and the thoath sliders too ( but they need the .TRI files to work that you only get if selected in the FOMOD)

[Predator-RJ]

8 hours ago, hentaiyour said:

Hello, I've been trying to convert the NPC from B and B 126, but no matter what method I use, it always shows 'the vertex count of the reference and chosen shape is not the same'. What should I do?

Hi, that happens when the head is not a HPH head, and is another one or vannila, find another NPC or a conversion of that one to use HPH, then do the process to have SMP on it.