goonerbomzh Posted October 2, 2024 Author Posted October 2, 2024 2 hours ago, badbat111 said: both it does actors and player first then dragged out of dream to where i was then get nezzem I am not sure why you get this error. I am just calling Sexlab.StartSex() on all the actors, without filtering animations. Can you see if using another mod you can get a scene with multiple actors? Also I am not sure why there is a CTD, but I wouldn't worry about it. It could be that solving the animation issue will solve this as well.
vjnmrf Posted October 3, 2024 Posted October 3, 2024 Since all these are like dreams, it would be nice to create an appropriate entourage. For example, a luminous fog or a column of light with dust on the main stage, and a blur at the edges.
goonerbomzh Posted October 4, 2024 Author Posted October 4, 2024 15 hours ago, vjnmrf said: Since all these are like dreams, it would be nice to create an appropriate entourage. For example, a luminous fog or a column of light with dust on the main stage, and a blur at the edges. Do you mean having a "special effect" for dreams? I was thinking about experimenting with the effect here
vjnmrf Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 31 minutes ago, goonerbomzh said: Do you mean having a "special effect" for dreams? I was thinking about experimenting with the effect here Well yeah, *Dreamwalker* that's exactly what I meant about blurring. But other effects are quite possible. For example, in dreams with vampires, something like the one in the bottom picture is quite appropriate.
vjnmrf Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 115 Â The cycle does not work - dreams can be repeated 2-3 times. Or were there different variations of animations of any dream?
goonerbomzh Posted October 4, 2024 Author Posted October 4, 2024 23 minutes ago, vjnmrf said: 115 Â The cycle does not work - dreams can be repeated 2-3 times. Or were there different variations of animations of any dream? Dreams are chosen at random but their variations will cycle in case you see the same dream again. "Variation" here means that the PC will be paired with a different type or number of actors in the same dream. For example, "pitch black" will cycle between 3 different variations, and "seed collector" will cycle between 2 different variations. Some dreams have 1 variation only. For what dreams have you seen repetitions?
vjnmrf Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 13 minutes ago, goonerbomzh said: Dreams are chosen at random but their variations will cycle in case you see the same dream again. "Variation" here means that the PC will be paired with a different type or number of actors in the same dream. For example, "pitch black" will cycle between 3 different variations, and "seed collector" will cycle between 2 different variations. Some dreams have 1 variation only. For what dreams have you seen repetitions? Â Actually, that's what I assumed in the question, probably worded it crookedly. So everything is working as intended. I've only started four new dreams now, and they've been repeated. 1
meatstroke Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 (edited) There were 145 ITMs in v. 1.1.5. You should really clean it with xEdit. Edited October 4, 2024 by meatstroke typo 1
Donuts4me Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, goonerbomzh said: Dreams are chosen at random but their variations will cycle in case you see the same dream again. "Variation" here means that the PC will be paired with a different type or number of actors in the same dream. For example, "pitch black" will cycle between 3 different variations, and "seed collector" will cycle between 2 different variations. Some dreams have 1 variation only. For what dreams have you seen repetitions? Â 1 hour ago, vjnmrf said: Â Actually, that's what I assumed in the question, probably worded it crookedly. So everything is working as intended. I've only started four new dreams now, and they've been repeated. Â I was confused by the description as well. I thought by "Dream variations" you meant all the different kinds of dreams that are in the mod. Not variations like different actors in the same dream or there can be either twosomes, threesomes or foursomes. Â Maybe you should make that clear in the MCM description and also mention that some dreams do not have variations. Something like; Â "Dream variations will happen in a cyclic manner, so you will see all variations (different actors, number of participants, etc.) before getting a repeat. Some dreams do not have variations and are not effected by this setting. Disable to choose a random variation each time for dreams that have more than one." Â Â Other than that everything worked great for me. The new dreams are working fine. Â Thank you for answering my request to make the beds usable! Much appreciated! Edited October 4, 2024 by Donuts4me 1
goonerbomzh Posted October 4, 2024 Author Posted October 4, 2024 1 hour ago, Donuts4me said: Â Â I was confused by the description as well. I thought by "Dream variations" you meant all the different kinds of dreams that are in the mod. Not variations like different actors in the same dream or there can be either twosomes, threesomes or foursomes. Â Maybe you should make that clear in the MCM description and also mention that some dreams do not have variations. Something like; Â "Dream variations will happen in a cyclic manner, so you will see all variations (different actors, number of participants, etc.) before getting a repeat. Some dreams do not have variations and are not effected by this setting. Disable to choose a random variation each time for dreams that have more than one." Â Â Other than that everything worked great for me. The new dreams are working fine. Â Thank you for answering my request to make the beds usable! Much appreciated! np, also I used your MCM description verbatim 1
Neyri LL Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 (edited) Is there a way to delay the start of these dreams? I'm thinking of using this with other mods in a semi RP fashion where my innocent PC slowly becomes more debaucherous 😅  Edit: BTW I love all mods with some descriptive RP text to describe a setting, emotions and visuals etc. Kudos for that!! 💖 Edited October 4, 2024 by Neyri LL 1
goonerbomzh Posted October 4, 2024 Author Posted October 4, 2024 10 minutes ago, Neyri LL said: Is there a way to delay the start of these dreams? I'm thinking of using this with other mods in a semi RP fashion where my innocent PC slowly becomes more debaucherous 😅  Edit: BTW I love all mods with some descriptive RP text to describe a setting, emotions and visuals etc. Kudos for that!! 💖 Untick all dreams in the MCM, the mod is effectively disabled this way
Neyri LL Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 10 minutes ago, goonerbomzh said: Untick all dreams in the MCM, the mod is effectively disabled this way Oh yeah there's that, but I was thinking time/quest gated to make it a bit more immersive. I've recently tried to minimize the need for menuing. I know it's a big ask, and tbf it's just a detail QOL feature, so I understand if implementing this would be out of your scope. Anyhow, thanks for taking the time to reply!!
goonerbomzh Posted October 4, 2024 Author Posted October 4, 2024 16 minutes ago, Neyri LL said: Oh yeah there's that, but I was thinking time/quest gated to make it a bit more immersive. I've recently tried to minimize the need for menuing. I know it's a big ask, and tbf it's just a detail QOL feature, so I understand if implementing this would be out of your scope. Anyhow, thanks for taking the time to reply!! A delayed start feature is interesting, I'll think about it
poporaltemporal Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 Its pretty awesome mod but I have some difficulties with it: 1) It cant detect if creature animations are installed 2) I think that the frequency of the dreams basically kinda breaks the content. I mean perhaps there should be more delay between dreams or maybe you would have to find new people to dream from etc If you would have to meet the NPCs that you dream from first it would drop down the frequency a lot and the dreams wouldnt hit straight out of fresh start. Also then you would actually have some sense of what the fuck just happened that you would not get into some random dream out of nothing. 3) Dreams seem to work now but for me there is weird setup time that during only black screen is displayed. 4) Currently the dreams probably increase sex stats etc as at least sl applied sperm stays on after dream. At least the sperm should be cleaned before waking up. 5) You have nice set of dreams now setup and perhaps instead of implementing new ones it might be worth to do sequals to dreams. I have it currently uninstalled but would like to install it in future. For me interest for this mod would increase much if: 1) Dreams would not be completely random that there was some context or reason you have dreams of certain things. 2) It would be really interesting if you could confront ulfric or some other NPC of the dreams you saw. Or perhaps the PC would get aroused thinking some dream so much it would make the NPC take the start 3) Even its done very well the randomness and frequent dreams make it feel silly. 4) Perhaps there would be more special dreams like some that reveal location or place and some spirit call you to it or something.
goonerbomzh Posted October 4, 2024 Author Posted October 4, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, poporaltemporal said: I have it currently uninstalled but would like to install it in future. Having a mod uninstalled because you have some issues with it is understandable. Some of the problems you listed are solvable, others are not, and the rest is not decided.   1 hour ago, poporaltemporal said: Its pretty awesome mod but I have some difficulties with it: 1) It cant detect if creature animations are installed 2) I think that the frequency of the dreams basically kinda breaks the content. I mean perhaps there should be more delay between dreams or maybe you would have to find new people to dream from etc If you would have to meet the NPCs that you dream from first it would drop down the frequency a lot and the dreams wouldnt hit straight out of fresh start. Also then you would actually have some sense of what the fuck just happened that you would not get into some random dream out of nothing. 3) Dreams seem to work now but for me there is weird setup time that during only black screen is displayed. 4) Currently the dreams probably increase sex stats etc as at least sl applied sperm stays on after dream. At least the sperm should be cleaned before waking up. 5) You have nice set of dreams now setup and perhaps instead of implementing new ones it might be worth to do sequals to dreams. 1) I want to understand what is the root of the problem. Is it (a) you didn't install some animation mods or (b) there are specific creatures you don't want in your dreams? If it's (a) then you should just install the mods I listed. If it's (b) then I am not sure how to solve it. Perhaps an MCM tab which can disable dreams according to creature appearing in it? 2) This is solvable. You can change the frequency of dreams in the MCM, the longest period IIRC is 2 weeks. Reading between the lines, it seems like you would also like a delayed start feature as discussed above. 3) This is solvable. You can disable the black screen in the MCM. It is applied as to not see the usual Sexlab jittery scene setup, but you can have that instead by disabling black screen in the MCM. 4) This is very intentional. Lore-wise, it's a daedric dream. Mechanics-wise, subjectively, I find it more enjoyable if the sex stats/effects apply. Implementation-wise, it is very difficult to revert sexlab effects, not to mention uncountably many SL-related mods with their own effects. 5) There are still situations/kinks that I want to explore in the current format.   1 hour ago, poporaltemporal said: For me interest for this mod would increase much if: 1) Dreams would not be completely random that there was some context or reason you have dreams of certain things. 2) It would be really interesting if you could confront ulfric or some other NPC of the dreams you saw. Or perhaps the PC would get aroused thinking some dream so much it would make the NPC take the start 3) Even its done very well the randomness and frequent dreams make it feel silly. 4) Perhaps there would be more special dreams like some that reveal location or place and some spirit call you to it or something. 1) Subjective. I prefer it in its current more sandboxy style, rather than your more story structured proposal. 2) Subjective. I prefer it if nobody outside the dream is aware/affected at all. It could be interesting to explore this possibility in the future, but that would be an exception to the rule. Also, regarding "arousal", I'm currently focusing on the core of this mod rather than integration with other mods. 3) In general, this mod is not entirely serious. There are pretty morbid dreams, and also some silly ones. 4) This is a very vague suggestion. I can't think of something that would bring much value to the gameplay loop at the moment Edited October 4, 2024 by goonerbomzh
poporaltemporal Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 14 minutes ago, goonerbomzh said: Having a mod uninstalled because you have some issues with it is understandable. Some of the problems you listed are solvable, others are not, and some are not decided. 1) I want to understand what is the root of the problem. Is it (a) you didn't install some animation mods or (b) there are specific creatures you don't want in your dreams? If it's (a) then you should just install the mods I listed. If it's (b) then I am not sure how to solve it. Perhaps an MCM tab which can disable dreams according to creature appearing in it? 2) This is solvable. You can change the frequency of dreams in the MCM, the longest period IIRC is 2 weeks. Reading between the lines it seems like you would also like a delayed start feature as discussed above. 3) This is solvable. You can disable the black screen in the MCM. It is applied as to not see the usual Sexlab jittery scene setup, but you can have that instead by disabling black screen in the MCM. 4) This is very intentional. Lore-wise, it's a daedric dream. Mechanics-wise, subjectively, I find it more enjoyable if the sex stats/effects apply. Implementation-wise, it is very difficult to revert sexlab effects, not to mention uncountably many SL-related mods with their own effects. 5) There are still situations/kinks that I want to explore in the current format. Â 1) Creature pack needs lot of setup. Creatures pack and animations and then allow the stuff in SL. Also the creature animations take sprecious animation space. Plus I find most of this stuff completely disfusting or stupid. 2) 3) I appreciate the configs and stuff. But when you run many mods it really start to bother you that you need to switch stuff off or tweak settings. 4) Technically to prevent the cum it should be somewhat easy to turn of apply cum from sexlab. Most or all dreams more or less end to male orgasm. Then you simply turn it back on after the dream if it was on. Sex stats etc is more difficult. For that it would almost be easiest to have simple hand defined animations without the large setup of sexlab. 5) Nice
DrSeptimus Posted October 4, 2024 Posted October 4, 2024 (edited) Amazing work, need to collaborate with jib for bimbo of skyrim. Â Btw, you going to add more daedra dream? Edited October 4, 2024 by DrSeptimus
Donuts4me Posted October 5, 2024 Posted October 5, 2024 (edited) 17 hours ago, goonerbomzh said: 4) This is very intentional. Lore-wise, it's a daedric dream. Mechanics-wise, subjectively, I find it more enjoyable if the sex stats/effects apply. Implementation-wise, it is very difficult to revert sexlab effects, not to mention uncountably many SL-related mods with their own effects.  1) Subjective. I prefer it in its current more sandboxy style, rather than your more story structured proposal. 2) Subjective. I prefer it if nobody outside the dream is aware/affected at all. It could be interesting to explore this possibility in the future, but that would be an exception to the rule. Also, regarding "arousal", I'm currently focusing on the core of this mod rather than integration with other mods. 3) In general, this mod is not entirely serious. There are pretty morbid dreams, and also some silly ones. 4) This is a very vague suggestion. I can't think of something that would bring much value to the gameplay loop at the moment  This mod obviously isn't for popo. I like it the way it is. You don't need to change anything.  As for adding, I have a few requests/suggestions.  - You've got a vampire-related dream with Blood bond. But that is with deathhounds and gargoyles. How about a dream in which the PC hooks up with vampires? Maybe have a dream where Serana pleases herself while watching the player doing things with other vampires? Make variations so it could be 1-4 vampires interacting with the player.  - An ice cave where the player can be met by either a frost troll, a snow bear, a snowy sabre cat, or an ice wraith.  - A forest cave (I was thinking the Eldergleam Sanctuary) where the player can be met by either a spriggan or a wisp.  - A nightmare where you actually have to consummate a marriage with the hagraven at Witchmist Grove!  - On the Atronach Forge circle in the Midden underneath the College of Winterhold there could be a dream with a fire atronach.  - There is the dream with Ysolda pleasing a mammoth. Maybe there could also be a dream with the player being forced by giants to please a mammoth while the giants watch.  Lot's of possibilities! Keep up the good work! Edited October 5, 2024 by Donuts4me
goonerbomzh Posted October 5, 2024 Author Posted October 5, 2024 (edited) 16 hours ago, DrSeptimus said: Amazing work, need to collaborate with jib for bimbo of skyrim. Â Btw, you going to add more daedra dream? What do you mean by more daedra dream? dremora? In general, I plan to add more dreams. Â 9 hours ago, Donuts4me said: Â This mod obviously isn't for popo. I like it the way it is. You don't need to change anything. Â As for adding, I have a few requests/suggestions. Â - You've got a vampire-related dream with Blood bond. But that is with deathhounds and gargoyles. How about a dream in which the PC hooks up with vampires? Maybe have a dream where Serana pleases herself while watching the player doing things with other vampires? Make variations so it could be 1-4 vampires interacting with the player. Â - An ice cave where the player can be met by either a frost troll, a snow bear, a snowy sabre cat, or an ice wraith. Â - A forest cave (I was thinking the Eldergleam Sanctuary) where the player can be met by either a spriggan or a wisp. Â - A nightmare where you actually have to consummate a marriage with the hagraven at Witchmist Grove! Â - On the Atronach Forge circle in the Midden underneath the College of Winterhold there could be a dream with a fire atronach. Â - There is the dream with Ysolda pleasing a mammoth. Maybe there could also be a dream with the player being forced by giants to please a mammoth while the giants watch. Â Lot's of possibilities! Keep up the good work! In general, I like your suggestions. I might have a different take on them, but overall agree, there is still good stuff to do Edited October 5, 2024 by goonerbomzh
DrSeptimus Posted October 5, 2024 Posted October 5, 2024 13 minutes ago, goonerbomzh said: What do you mean by more daedra dream? dremora? In general, I plan to add more dreams. Â Â Yeah, more dream where you have sex dremora... Â And dreams that are similar to public whore and bimbo of skyrim theme. Â
goonerbomzh Posted October 5, 2024 Author Posted October 5, 2024 10 minutes ago, DrSeptimus said: Â Yeah, more dream where you have sex dremora... Â And dreams that are similar to public whore and bimbo of skyrim theme. Â I might, another dream that I think is in this style is "slut princess". Mostly, you should expect more dreams in similar style to existing ones in terms of writing, composition, etc 1
Teedjiy Posted October 5, 2024 Posted October 5, 2024 Hi, WIth the 1.1.5 Hotfix2 the MCM doesn't show up on a new game Had to install 1.1.5 Hotfix1 let the MCM register and then upgrading to 1.1.5 Hotfix2 for it to work
goonerbomzh Posted October 5, 2024 Author Posted October 5, 2024 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Teedjiy said: Hi, WIth the 1.1.5 Hotfix2 the MCM doesn't show up on a new game Had to install 1.1.5 Hotfix1 let the MCM register and then upgrading to 1.1.5 Hotfix2 for it to work Thanks! should be fixed now Edited October 5, 2024 by goonerbomzh
Teedjiy Posted October 5, 2024 Posted October 5, 2024 26 minutes ago, goonerbomzh said: Thanks! should be fixed now Fixed! Thanks
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