Animal Research: The Insatiable Scholar

[killer905]

4 hours ago, gooser said:

Using version 0.44, new game, I've had zero mod issues until the quest for the Werebears. In dialog with Freyka, I get as far as 

"Why would you want such a cursed creature?", and then the dialog stops. There are no other options

Is this broken, or have I missed something?

Check this post. But we need check this problem.

 

 

[killer905]

16 hours ago, akforeplay said:

Right so the party quest is pretty much the poster child of every criticism I gave back a while ago.  Once again the player has zero agency where even if you zero out the quest counter you have to wait for her to slut around some more and at the end your forced to sit around doing nothing for 5 CONSECUTIVE scenes minimum, two of which involve bbc fetishism despite being with a demon(maybe more but I left the moment the opportunity arouse).

 Which blows because this update was going really strong with the player interacting with whats going on until the horse quest where you stand around for 4 scenes but the level of interaction after makes up, even the start of the party you as the player are doing things but then suddenly you get to stand around for like 5 mins if you use the default sexlab scene length settings.  You barely even feel like supporting character in the quest let alone the PC it honestly feels like the PC could be replaced with a generic merc and not much would change.

Maybe the direction the mod is going just isn't for me which is fine, but I figured I'd give my 2 cents on the update for whatever its worth since I really enjoyed the mod up till now.

The idea behind the ‘party’ task was that the PC could also help Tirwin complete the requirement of 20 sexual acts with other NPCs. But something went wrong, and the appropriate dialogue stating that Tirwin can now finish because the PC helped her only appears after Tirwin's 15th sexual act.

 

Please also remember that Tirwin plays the main role here, but I understand your comments and hope that the future update will not focus ‘exclusively or most of the time’ on her, as was the case with the party. 

 

As for the animal phase, there was no room for the PC either (unless you tell Tirwin that the PC also wants a round with an animal), but Otto/Dremora was more interested in Tirwin's show than the PC's.

[akforeplay]

2 hours ago, killer905 said:

The idea behind the ‘party’ task was that the PC could also help Tirwin complete the requirement of 20 sexual acts with other NPCs. But something went wrong, and the appropriate dialogue stating that Tirwin can now finish because the PC helped her only appears after Tirwin's 15th sexual act.

 

Please also remember that Tirwin plays the main role here, but I understand your comments and hope that the future update will not focus ‘exclusively or most of the time’ on her, as was the case with the party. 

 

As for the animal phase, there was no room for the PC either (unless you tell Tirwin that the PC also wants a round with an animal), but Otto/Dremora was more interested in Tirwin's show than the PC's.

Ah I see a bug then that makes sense considering the counter started to go negative.

Even though I understand Tirwin is the "MC" I feel for a Daedra spitting in Akatosh's face by fucking and degrading the last moral with a dragonsoul would be far greater than corrupting a to my knowledge normal Highelf considering Akatosh is the one that cock blocks their invasions.  Personally it was just a bit odd, weird thing to get hung up on in a mod I know.

That aside I hope to see the player doing more things, particularly things alongside Tirwin for female pc.

Thanks for taking the time to reply!

Edited September 4, 2025 by akforeplay

[pelle234]

I notice xEdit is throwing some errors like them here; should i be worried?

Spoiler

[04:49] VAR_EmptySemenBottle "Empty Semen Bottle" [ALCH:E04CB76E]
[04:49]     ALCH \ Effects \ Effect \ EFID - Base Effect -> Found a NULL reference, expected: MGEF
[04:50] [INFO:E01F0D3C] ([G]'That's kind of you to say. I hope you mean it. All right, come and take me!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_BearPostP5 "That wasn't dirty. It was beautiful, just like you." [DIAL:E01F0D3A])
[04:50]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:50] [INFO:E01F0D3D] ([G]'That's kind of you to say. I hope you mean it. All right, come and take me!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_BearPostP5 "That wasn't dirty. It was beautiful, just like you." [DIAL:E01F0D3A])
[04:50]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:50] [INFO:E01F0D3E] ([G]'Gods! Is that what I am now? All right, if you promise to keep me safe, come here and take me.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_BearPostP6 "That just makes me want you more. I love my dirty little Elf!" [DIAL:E01F0D3B])
[04:50]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:50] [INFO:E01F0D3F] ([G]'Gods! Is that what I am now? All right, if you promise to keep me safe, come here and take me.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_BearPostP6 "That just makes me want you more. I love my dirty little Elf!" [DIAL:E01F0D3B])
[04:50]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E02B5EF9] ([G]'Good. I've prepared the ingredients.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_ValLeave2Topic "We're ready." [DIAL:E02B5EF8])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "VAR_VampireLord "The Dark Lord" [QUST:E0FBD601]">
[04:51] [INFO:E02E8F9D] ([G][SO]'Does my body really arouse you? I'm glad. Come here and give me that cock!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_DeerPostP3 "Watching you made me so hard. Will you share your elven body with me?" [DIAL:E02E8F98])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E0E689D8] ([G]'Come here and give me that cock!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_DeerPostP3 "Watching you made me so hard. Will you share your elven body with me?" [DIAL:E02E8F98])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E02E8F9E] ([G][SO]'Does my body really arouse you? I'm glad. Come here and touch me!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_DeerPostP3 "Watching you made me so hard. Will you share your elven body with me?" [DIAL:E02E8F98])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E0E689D9] ([G]'Come here and touch me!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_DeerPostP3 "Watching you made me so hard. Will you share your elven body with me?" [DIAL:E02E8F98])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E050BE82] ([G]'That sounds wonderful.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_TrollTirwin2P3B "Yes, let's both pleasure that Imperial beauty." [DIAL:E050BE7F])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E050BE54] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E0640D00] ([G][SO]'Yes, of course! If you want a dirty elf, come and get me. I need a real cock!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_ASPost3 "Now I'm jealous of that ash spawn. Is it my turn to enjoy your body?" [DIAL:E0640CF2])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E064AF14] ([G][SO]'Yes, of course! If you want a dirty elf, come and get me!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_ASPost3 "Now I'm jealous of that ash spawn. Is it my turn to enjoy your body?" [DIAL:E0640CF2])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E06BF6BC] ([G][SO]'All right. Then come here.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_NetchSex7 "I don't want to talk. I just want your body." [DIAL:E06BF6BF])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E06BF6C1] ([G][SO]'All right. Then come here.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_NetchSex7 "I don't want to talk. I just want your body." [DIAL:E06BF6BF])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>

 

[killer905]

7 hours ago, pelle234 said:

I notice xEdit is throwing some errors like them here; should i be worried?

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[04:49] VAR_EmptySemenBottle "Empty Semen Bottle" [ALCH:E04CB76E]
[04:49]     ALCH \ Effects \ Effect \ EFID - Base Effect -> Found a NULL reference, expected: MGEF
[04:50] [INFO:E01F0D3C] ([G]'That's kind of you to say. I hope you mean it. All right, come and take me!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_BearPostP5 "That wasn't dirty. It was beautiful, just like you." [DIAL:E01F0D3A])
[04:50]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:50] [INFO:E01F0D3D] ([G]'That's kind of you to say. I hope you mean it. All right, come and take me!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_BearPostP5 "That wasn't dirty. It was beautiful, just like you." [DIAL:E01F0D3A])
[04:50]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:50] [INFO:E01F0D3E] ([G]'Gods! Is that what I am now? All right, if you promise to keep me safe, come here and take me.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_BearPostP6 "That just makes me want you more. I love my dirty little Elf!" [DIAL:E01F0D3B])
[04:50]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:50] [INFO:E01F0D3F] ([G]'Gods! Is that what I am now? All right, if you promise to keep me safe, come here and take me.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_BearPostP6 "That just makes me want you more. I love my dirty little Elf!" [DIAL:E01F0D3B])
[04:50]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E02B5EF9] ([G]'Good. I've prepared the ingredients.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_ValLeave2Topic "We're ready." [DIAL:E02B5EF8])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "VAR_VampireLord "The Dark Lord" [QUST:E0FBD601]">
[04:51] [INFO:E02E8F9D] ([G][SO]'Does my body really arouse you? I'm glad. Come here and give me that cock!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_DeerPostP3 "Watching you made me so hard. Will you share your elven body with me?" [DIAL:E02E8F98])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E0E689D8] ([G]'Come here and give me that cock!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_DeerPostP3 "Watching you made me so hard. Will you share your elven body with me?" [DIAL:E02E8F98])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E02E8F9E] ([G][SO]'Does my body really arouse you? I'm glad. Come here and touch me!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_DeerPostP3 "Watching you made me so hard. Will you share your elven body with me?" [DIAL:E02E8F98])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E0E689D9] ([G]'Come here and touch me!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_DeerPostP3 "Watching you made me so hard. Will you share your elven body with me?" [DIAL:E02E8F98])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E050BE82] ([G]'That sounds wonderful.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_TrollTirwin2P3B "Yes, let's both pleasure that Imperial beauty." [DIAL:E050BE7F])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E050BE54] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E0640D00] ([G][SO]'Yes, of course! If you want a dirty elf, come and get me. I need a real cock!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_ASPost3 "Now I'm jealous of that ash spawn. Is it my turn to enjoy your body?" [DIAL:E0640CF2])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E064AF14] ([G][SO]'Yes, of course! If you want a dirty elf, come and get me!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_ASPost3 "Now I'm jealous of that ash spawn. Is it my turn to enjoy your body?" [DIAL:E0640CF2])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E06BF6BC] ([G][SO]'All right. Then come here.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_NetchSex7 "I don't want to talk. I just want your body." [DIAL:E06BF6BF])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E06BF6C1] ([G][SO]'All right. Then come here.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_NetchSex7 "I don't want to talk. I just want your body." [DIAL:E06BF6BF])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>

 

Those for dialogues should not cause any problems, but if you add the item VAR_EmptySemenBottle ‘Empty Semen Bottle’ [ALCH:E04CB76E] to your or an NPC's inventory, you are guaranteed to get a CTD when opening the PC or NPC's inventory.

[eflat01]

12 hours ago, pelle234 said:

I notice xEdit is throwing some errors like them here; should i be worried?

  Hide contents

[04:49] VAR_EmptySemenBottle "Empty Semen Bottle" [ALCH:E04CB76E]
[04:49]     ALCH \ Effects \ Effect \ EFID - Base Effect -> Found a NULL reference, expected: MGEF
[04:50] [INFO:E01F0D3C] ([G]'That's kind of you to say. I hope you mean it. All right, come and take me!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_BearPostP5 "That wasn't dirty. It was beautiful, just like you." [DIAL:E01F0D3A])
[04:50]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:50] [INFO:E01F0D3D] ([G]'That's kind of you to say. I hope you mean it. All right, come and take me!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_BearPostP5 "That wasn't dirty. It was beautiful, just like you." [DIAL:E01F0D3A])
[04:50]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:50] [INFO:E01F0D3E] ([G]'Gods! Is that what I am now? All right, if you promise to keep me safe, come here and take me.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_BearPostP6 "That just makes me want you more. I love my dirty little Elf!" [DIAL:E01F0D3B])
[04:50]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:50] [INFO:E01F0D3F] ([G]'Gods! Is that what I am now? All right, if you promise to keep me safe, come here and take me.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_BearPostP6 "That just makes me want you more. I love my dirty little Elf!" [DIAL:E01F0D3B])
[04:50]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E02B5EF9] ([G]'Good. I've prepared the ingredients.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_ValLeave2Topic "We're ready." [DIAL:E02B5EF8])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ Alias -> <Warning: Quest Alias not found in "VAR_VampireLord "The Dark Lord" [QUST:E0FBD601]">
[04:51] [INFO:E02E8F9D] ([G][SO]'Does my body really arouse you? I'm glad. Come here and give me that cock!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_DeerPostP3 "Watching you made me so hard. Will you share your elven body with me?" [DIAL:E02E8F98])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E0E689D8] ([G]'Come here and give me that cock!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_DeerPostP3 "Watching you made me so hard. Will you share your elven body with me?" [DIAL:E02E8F98])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E02E8F9E] ([G][SO]'Does my body really arouse you? I'm glad. Come here and touch me!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_DeerPostP3 "Watching you made me so hard. Will you share your elven body with me?" [DIAL:E02E8F98])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E0E689D9] ([G]'Come here and touch me!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_DeerPostP3 "Watching you made me so hard. Will you share your elven body with me?" [DIAL:E02E8F98])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E050BE82] ([G]'That sounds wonderful.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_TrollTirwin2P3B "Yes, let's both pleasure that Imperial beauty." [DIAL:E050BE7F])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E050BE54] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E0640D00] ([G][SO]'Yes, of course! If you want a dirty elf, come and get me. I need a real cock!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_ASPost3 "Now I'm jealous of that ash spawn. Is it my turn to enjoy your body?" [DIAL:E0640CF2])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E064AF14] ([G][SO]'Yes, of course! If you want a dirty elf, come and get me!' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_ASPost3 "Now I'm jealous of that ash spawn. Is it my turn to enjoy your body?" [DIAL:E0640CF2])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E06BF6BC] ([G][SO]'All right. Then come here.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_NetchSex7 "I don't want to talk. I just want your body." [DIAL:E06BF6BF])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>
[04:51] [INFO:E06BF6C1] ([G][SO]'All right. Then come here.' in GRUP Topic Children of VAR_NetchSex7 "I don't want to talk. I just want your body." [DIAL:E06BF6BF])
[04:51]     INFO \ VMAD - Virtual Machine Adapter \ Scripts \ Script \ Properties \ Property \ Value \ Object Union \ Object v2 \ FormID -> [E01AF00F] <Error: Could not be resolved>

 

 

You can remove the VAR_EmptySemenBottle or add a Blank effect to it. If it's in the PC/NPC inventory  and you open that inventory - container - it will  CTD.

 

The INFO I think are unused - dead dialog links - and should probably be cleaned out by @killer905 or @Gristle just to be sure.  

[killer905]

20 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

You can remove the VAR_EmptySemenBottle or add a Blank effect to it. If it's in the PC/NPC inventory  and you open that inventory - container - it will  CTD.

 

The INFO I think are unused - dead dialog links - and should probably be cleaned out by @killer905 or @Gristle just to be sure.  

Not by me but by Gristle

[Gristle]

2 hours ago, eflat01 said:

The INFO I think are unused - dead dialog links - and should probably be cleaned out by @killer905 or @Gristle just to be sure.  

These won't cause any problems. The dialogue errors were being caused by (unused) properties in the dialogue scripts that weren't assigned to anything. I have fixed these and the fixes will be in the next version. Also, I fixed the empty semen bottle, although it's currently unused.

[Gristle]

On 9/1/2025 at 5:32 AM, KeplerZeroFive said:

I experimented and dug around some more in xEdit and I think I might have found the issue. There's a trigger (xx03BFE3) in the Volkihar Courtyard that sets the stage of VAR_Castle to 135, it looks like it's used for Tirwin's "What is this place?!" line. However, you can hit this trigger while doing the normal Dawnguard quest Chasing Echoes when you explore the courtyard. If you do so, then it'll cause any of the AI packages or dialogues that rely on GetStage(VAR_Castle) = x to fail for any value of x below 135 (such as Tirwin's ForceGreet packages at the gate or in the first tower), because GetStage returns the highest completed stage, so it thinks we're much further in the quest than we actually are. 

 

My modding experience is limited so I'm not sure what the best solution would be. Would it work to have that trigger start off disabled and then be enabled as part of the quest initialization or in one of the fragments?

Good catch! These trigger boxes can be set to have a prerequisite stage. This particular trigger box doesn't have one and it should. I will set it to have a prerequisite stage of 130. This will ensure it can't be triggered during an earlier Chasing Echoes quest. 

On 9/1/2025 at 5:32 AM, KeplerZeroFive said:

Also, I may have found a small script bug while I was investigating. Fragment 0 of VAR_QF_VAR_Castle1_07DC0C57 checks if the quest Kindred Judgement has been completed in order to reenable the gate guard and lock the doors. However, the watchman is disabled at the end of Bloodlines - if you try and do this quest between the two, the watchman will still be disabled but won't be reenabled by the script. It might work to have two separate checks, one if Bloodlines is done to reenable the guard and one if Kindred Judgement is done to shut the gates.

This is correct. The mod currently is checking only two Dawnguard states - Kindred Judgement is completed or not. This should be explained somewhere in the mod description, but this means the Volkihar portion of this mod should be run before or after Dawnguard, and not during. Actually, it's OK if Dawnguard has started, but this mod should not be run after the Volkihar island has been visited until Kindred Judgement has been completed. Yes, it would be possible to address the issue of the watchman at the end of Bloodlines, but there are so many other issues that could arise at other Dawnguard stages. The mod is rewiring all of the doors in and out of the courtyard and balcony, locking/unlocking the Undercroft door, introducing cloned versions of the main hall and two towers, editing/unediting the courtyard and balcony, etc.. So, I think it's best to just tell people to run the Volkihar quest in this mod before or after Dawnguard.

[Gristle]

On 9/3/2025 at 1:39 PM, gooser said:

Using version 0.44, new game, I've had zero mod issues until the quest for the Werebears. In dialog with Freyka, I get as far as 

"Why would you want such a cursed creature?", and then the dialog stops. There are no other options

Is this broken, or have I missed something?

Thanks. The dialogue is supposed to work for Fanari or Freyka, but there is missing dialogue for Freyka. I will post a fixed version shortly. The missing lines will be unvoiced, but they will work.

Edited September 5, 2025 by Gristle

[pelle234]

Thanks guys for clearing that up 🧡 Just trying to make the pack as stable as i can but im realising its aint really feasible when you dont know what ur doing.

[eflat01]

2 hours ago, Gristle said:

These won't cause any problems. The dialogue errors were being caused by (unused) properties in the dialogue scripts that weren't assigned to anything. I have fixed these and the fixes will be in the next version. Also, I fixed the empty semen bottle, although it's currently unused.

Thx, I'll be sure to check out next archive.

[zwdragonbone8314]

Hi, I just download the latest version of this mod. I'm encountering a problem on Seed of lust quest. After we rescue the striggan and talk to Nyssa, I think there is scene of sex between Tirwin and Striggan but nothing happen. And there is no additional dialogue from either Tirwin or Nyssa.

[killer905]

14 minutes ago, zwdragonbone8314 said:

Hi, I just download the latest version of this mod. I'm encountering a problem on Seed of lust quest. After we rescue the striggan and talk to Nyssa, I think there is scene of sex between Tirwin and Striggan but nothing happen. And there is no additional dialogue from either Tirwin or Nyssa.

Spriggan should be next to Nyssia.
If no scene takes place, you have no animations for Spriggan.

[sexyninja]

2 hours ago, zwdragonbone8314 said:

Hi, I just download the latest version of this mod. I'm encountering a problem on Seed of lust quest. After we rescue the striggan and talk to Nyssa, I think there is scene of sex between Tirwin and Striggan but nothing happen. And there is no additional dialogue from either Tirwin or Nyssa.

I just ran into the same problem a least for me turns out the issue was i had "Match Creature Gender" selected in Sexlab. 

[zwdragonbone8314]

5 hours ago, killer905 said:

Spriggan should be next to Nyssia.
If no scene takes place, you have no animations for Spriggan.

Hi killer905, thank you for your response. I did install the installation of animation of Striggan based on the requitement list provided by this mod. The problem remaining, no scene happening and no additional dialogue from either Tirwin or Nyssa.

[eflat01]

3 hours ago, zwdragonbone8314 said:

Hi killer905, thank you for your response. I did install the installation of animation of Striggan based on the requitement list provided by this mod. The problem remaining, no scene happening and no additional dialogue from either Tirwin or Nyssa.

 

Still seems like a SexLab issue to me,  just due you'd played thru thus far so other animations the Creature animations must be on. Things to check in addition:

 

1. Make sure gender matching is off.
2. I don't remember the setting name but make sure to allow aggressive animations (some creature animations contain that tag)
3. Double check the Sprigan animation set is actually registered in SexLab. 

 

This is a long shot but do you have anything changing Sprigans which may be overriding the body, etc... ?

 

In console look at the stages, - looking for something which may be confusing the quest stages.

 

sqs VAR_Spriggan 

 

Edited September 7, 2025 by eflat01

[Gristle]

12 hours ago, sexyninja said:

I just ran into the same problem a least for me turns out the issue was i had "Match Creature Gender" selected in Sexlab. 

Good observation. The spriggan is the first female creature that Tirwin encounters.

[Ar4chnid]

Getting the following messages from DynDOLOD:

 

Warning: Property not found doonce in scripts\var_seranascenetriggerscript.pex Animal_Research.esp VARSeranaSceneTrigger "Serana Scene Trigger" [ACTI:3C4F4027]
Warning: Property not found gargquest in scripts\var_seranascenetriggerscript.pex Animal_Research.esp VARSeranaSceneTrigger "Serana Scene Trigger" [ACTI:3C4F4027]
Warning: Property not found gargstage in scripts\var_seranascenetriggerscript.pex Animal_Research.esp VARSeranaSceneTrigger "Serana Scene Trigger" [ACTI:3C4F4027]

Warning: Property not found vqquest in scripts\var_seranascenetriggerscript.pex Animal_Research.esp VARSeranaSceneTrigger "Serana Scene Trigger" [ACTI:3C4F4027]
Warning: Property not found vqstage in scripts\var_seranascenetriggerscript.pex Animal_Research.esp VARSeranaSceneTrigger "Serana Scene Trigger" [ACTI:3C4F4027]

[eflat01]

51 minutes ago, Gristle said:

Good observation. The spriggan is the first female creature that Tirwin encounters.

 

I'm sure while obvious to most players that Sprigans and Hagravens are female, I'm sure some often overlook that match gender SexLab setting, which will eliminate the animations out of the search query when it comes to female/female.  That's likely the issue. 

[Darl9]

So, I got stuck on the netch quest (it wouldn't recognize I'd found the Netch), so ended up forwarding it with setstage (something I've done before and it was fine), but afterward I can't talk to Tirwin anymore. If I activate her to talk she just moves her lips silently. Tried disable/enable, resetAI, resurrect, moving stages through the next quest, summoning her, activating her with the console, nothing works. NFF (I haven't imported her, just used the debug screen) says that she's still involved in the Netch quest scene, but I'm not sure if there's a way to force that to end. 

[gooser]

On 9/5/2025 at 4:24 PM, Gristle said:

Thanks. The dialogue is supposed to work for Fanari or Freyka, but there is missing dialogue for Freyka. I will post a fixed version shortly. The missing lines will be unvoiced, but they will work.

So I tried version 45. The dialog goes a lot farther (plus there's a secondary dialog that gives instructions re: Miraak and going to the temple), gives details about the Northern pass, and names a new NPC and how he disappeared, but the quest never progresses, ... the dialog finishes, but the quest arrow stays on Freyka.

EDIT: I was able to get past this point with your previous instruction, i.e. SETSTAGE VAR_WereBear 50.

Edited September 9, 2025 by gooser

[gooser]

So after the encounter with Harkon, my PC seems to permantently slowed, though I don't see anything in the magic effects tab. Does this get eventually reset at some point? I've made it out to the courtyard to talk to Serana again, and it is still active.

[eflat01]

33 minutes ago, gooser said:

So after the encounter with Harkon, my PC seems to permantently slowed, though I don't see anything in the magic effects tab. Does this get eventually reset at some point? I've made it out to the courtyard to talk to Serana again, and it is still active.

 

Hmm, Cetainly I'd not run into that one. 

 

Had you made sure you did not toggle the run/walk key - usually it's Caps-Lock?  (My pc is constant run normally)

 

Also if Sexlab does not restore control due some dang interuption.

enableplayercontrols

 

[gooser]

31 minutes ago, eflat01 said:

 

Hmm, Cetainly I'd not run into that one. 

 

Had you made sure you did not toggle the run/walk key - usually it's Caps-Lock?  (My pc is constant run normally)

 

Also if Sexlab does not restore control due some dang interuption.

enableplayercontrols

 

Reloading the save game seems to have fixed it. thanks