Lazy Palm Posted October 6, 2024 Author Posted October 6, 2024 23 hours ago, 1whirled said: Not as far as I'd like, 7 months into. Extremely comprehensive with full overhauls is the reason why, and having to learn that which I am not exactly comfortable with, mainly scripting. Never done much but simple animations either, so paired+ is deffo terrain never before traveled. Yeah, learning scripting in the CK beast and building all of those assets, I would say you are doing just fine for 7 months! I know it is REALLY hard to narrow the scope of stuff when you keep getting ideas though.
osculim Posted October 6, 2024 Posted October 6, 2024 This is exactly what I was looking for and its not over complicated. I have a suggestion tho. If you can add simple prostitution support. You can give your follower a master keyword and then ask them if you can sell yourself for money. There is a slider so you just have to force the slider to send all the money to the owner. Maby give the player an allowance. 1
Talesien Posted October 6, 2024 Posted October 6, 2024 Look, shiny new things for us to play with (now I only need to get done with EasyNPC's to finally get my new LO off the ground). Also, thanks for including the scripts. Although one question I had remains unanswered as those sources are missing. Bindings has a conflict with FISSES, would it be correct to assume that you didn't change those two scripts and hence it's safe to let FISSES win?
Lazy Palm Posted October 6, 2024 Author Posted October 6, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Talesien said: Look, shiny new things for us to play with (now I only need to get done with EasyNPC's to finally get my new LO off the ground). Also, thanks for including the scripts. Although one question I had remains unanswered as those sources are missing. Bindings has a conflict with FISSES, would it be correct to assume that you didn't change those two scripts and hence it's safe to let FISSES win? Yeah, I just included the two files recommended by the FISSES mod instructions, and no modifications were made to them. So yeah, FISSES can win in that battle! And that reminds me that I didn't put MCM backup/restore in the release notes. No telling what else I forgot about 😀 Edited October 6, 2024 by Lazy Palm
Lazy Palm Posted October 6, 2024 Author Posted October 6, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, osculim said: This is exactly what I was looking for and its not over complicated. I have a suggestion tho. If you can add simple prostitution support. You can give your follower a master keyword and then ask them if you can sell yourself for money. There is a slider so you just have to force the slider to send all the money to the owner. Maby give the player an allowance. Glad it is working out for you! I had follower keeps the gold plans already. I will take a look at simple prostitution though, if integration is that easy, might be doable. That said, now exactly sure when I will get to that. The backlog is officially extensive at this point 😀 Sorry if this is Captain obvious question, but out of curiosity, have you tried SLTR (Lola) for prostitution? Everybody seems to be able to run this mod along side it pretty successfully. The prostitution part is really well developed in it. Edited October 6, 2024 by Lazy Palm 2
YellowBeard007 Posted October 7, 2024 Posted October 7, 2024 On 10/6/2024 at 8:16 AM, Lazy Palm said: Glad it is working out for you! I had follower keeps the gold plans already. I will take a look at simple prostitution though, if integration is that easy, might be doable. That said, now exactly sure when I will get to that. The backlog is officially extensive at this point 😀 Sorry if this is Captain obvious question, but out of curiosity, have you tried SLTR (Lola) for prostitution? Everybody seems to be able to run this mod along side it pretty successfully. The prostitution part is really well developed in it. If you are doing a follower keeps the money, please make it an on, off choice in the MCM. The follower keeping the money in my opinion slows playing the game down as the game has a need for the dragon-born to buy things from vendors. As an added thought this may be an idea where the dragon-born has to beg the follower for money, to buy from the vender, and the follower dom says something like, "oh really?" "alright", after the dragon-born buys from the vendor, when they enter a player home, a town or a pub then the dom follower ties up the player and wips the dragon-born an amount of time, then leaves her tied up, in a town or pub or a player home. Just an idea. In my opinion the follower keeping the money slows the game down, the slave dragon-born should have to spend money for the follower to sleep for a night in an inn, so to speak, booze and food. Which is another idea, the follower should get hungry and thirsty and tired, it may be a good idea to have this start a night in an inn, or at home, where the follower demands the dragon-born to give the follower money for a night at an inn, (plus food and drink) while they are out adventuring). They enter the inn and the dragon-born is forced to pay for a stay of 1 day or night, (MCM choice) after the dragon-born pays the follower ties up the dragon-born, eats, drinks and goes to bed. Just some ideas, Thank you for such a great mod.
Lazy Palm Posted October 7, 2024 Author Posted October 7, 2024 2 hours ago, YellowBeard007 said: If you are doing a follower keeps the money, please make it an on, off choice in the MCM. The follower keeping the money in my opinion slows playing the game down as the game has a need for the dragon-born to buy things from vendors. Yeah, I would only do it as an MCM option. I can imagine some people would hate it and other mods might do it better. 2 hours ago, YellowBeard007 said: They enter the inn and the dragon-born is forced to pay for a stay of 1 day or night, (MCM choice) after the dragon-born pays the follower ties up the dragon-born, eats, drinks and goes to bed. There has been some batting around of a night at the inn type idea for a bit, might be a good time to add it. I like your suggested sequence of events! 2
Lazy Palm Posted October 7, 2024 Author Posted October 7, 2024 9 hours ago, 1whirled said: Although not sure how I'm going to conjure up VA's I never even considered paying for a voice actor for this mod. My coding hobby could be expensive if I did. All of the AI voice stuff seems like such a gray area for rights depending on how the model was trained. Of course I have not researched it yet either. Might be some great open source one trained on public domain voice data for all I know. 1
Lazy Palm Posted October 8, 2024 Author Posted October 8, 2024 10 hours ago, 1whirled said: Especially considering the overall lack of engagement here, even though I've posted some pretty excellent work I've done. Seems a fruitless venture, which is quite odd given the amount of those voicing otherwise in a myriad number of threads on LL. I am guessing if you started a work in progress page/blog and added stuff, you would get good engagement. You already have some really solid assets and there is always an audience for every kink. Just need to point people in the right direction. Especially if you are open to feedback and ideas from people. I think there are many that would love to have their ideas worked into mods, but don't have the time or technical abilities to make it happen. 10 hours ago, 1whirled said: Everything in the universe shouldn't purely be about profiteering and finding a new angle to con others. I think you made a pretty solid case for why AI trained or copyrighted works should be fair game. Now I just have to get over my discomfort of feeding a bunch of NSFW text into a commercial product with my billing information on it 😀 Most of the text to speech stuff (like xVASynth), although amazing, just does not do it for me. I would rather read words. 2
lovalter Posted October 8, 2024 Posted October 8, 2024 2 hours ago, Lazy Palm said: I think you made a pretty solid case for why AI trained or copyrighted works should be fair game. Now I just have to get over my discomfort of feeding a bunch of NSFW text into a commercial product with my billing information on it 😀 Most of the text to speech stuff (like xVASynth), although amazing, just does not do it for me. I would rather read words. I think the sweetspot is xVA for npcs and 11labs for player, and on that note oh boy an included DBVO pack would be a dream come true
Anunya Posted October 8, 2024 Posted October 8, 2024 5 hours ago, Lazy Palm said: Most of the text to speech stuff (like xVASynth), although amazing, just does not do it for me. I would rather read words. There's at least two of us who feel that way 1
Lazy Palm Posted October 8, 2024 Author Posted October 8, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Anunya said: There's at least two of us who feel that way Yeah, there is just some kind of uncanny valley problem with hearing Lydia's voice sounding like a robot. Breaks my brain. Course that is about the only voice solution for something where you can choose any voiced followers to be the dom. Unless you can find sound alike voice actors for all the people 😀 Edited October 8, 2024 by Lazy Palm
Lazy Palm Posted October 8, 2024 Author Posted October 8, 2024 (edited) 0.1.10 preview 1 Added extra zap animation names in the pose selection menus for more kneels and standing poses. The dom is aware of what city they are in and will have an opinion about it. Sometimes. When your dom is attacked during and event, you will get prompted with an dialogue that will let you escape from bondage to help fight or get left to your fate. Added WIP Souls From Bones dragon soul event. When you absorb a soul, look at the dragon, then talk to your dom while kneeling. Furniture sex is only with a DD item so far, ZAP will just start a normal sex scene (will see if I can fix it). Still missing random soul outcomes after event. (enable in MCM preferences) Binding 0.1.10 preview 1.7z Edited October 8, 2024 by Lazy Palm 3
HereBeTentacles Posted October 9, 2024 Posted October 9, 2024 I see there are options to have the dominant remove the arm bindings and allow you to dress when outside a city or in a dangerous area, but is it possible to get an option to have them remove everything when in those places? Basically only have the rules active when in a safe area?
Lazy Palm Posted October 9, 2024 Author Posted October 9, 2024 9 hours ago, HereBeTentacles said: I see there are options to have the dominant remove the arm bindings and allow you to dress when outside a city or in a dangerous area, but is it possible to get an option to have them remove everything when in those places? Basically only have the rules active when in a safe area? That is probably doable. I will look. Sure you are not the only person that would like to have that option.
Lazy Palm Posted October 9, 2024 Author Posted October 9, 2024 12 hours ago, 1whirled said: 3d paradise, pummels the shit out of the system though, and this isn't a particularly busy area. 12Gb of vram in this shot here alone, peak at 18. To wit, using 7+Gb of sys mem in Elsweyr test cell with only 4 farmhouse corner walls, one torch, one point source light, Maiq, and the PC rendered. That is very pretty. I was playing with an enb and a few high texture and lighting mods at one point and it put a hurt on my 7900XT. The angry fan noise coaxed me back into just the basics. Looks like I have been missing out. 12 hours ago, 1whirled said: Draw calls are a bitch above 4 thousand mods. I hope you are not hand curating that list. That could explain the lack of free time 🤣 1
HiddenHari Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 Wanna inquire on how the hybrid mode works for rule selection. The mistress would require me to pick a new rule every once in a while, but when I choose the "I want to talk about my rules" dialogue, she always says I need to behave better. I have made sure I have no punishment due and have a couple of points to spare. Am I missing something? Besides that, I didn't find other major issues recently. The mod is very very fun, and enjoyable to use!😝
HiddenHari Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 (edited) Starting since 0.1.9 preview 9, posing for dialogue uses the "conversation" option under the pose menu, and I believe the old "attention" pose option is a bit redundant now? Posing for dialogue and occasionally forgetting to do so is very fun😅. I also want to nudge you gently to add more restraint options, if you don't have other priorities😽. Or maybe you would consider creating a system for random/dom-selected devices to add variation in restraints? I understand there are just too many devices with color variations, so including all of them at once would be tedious work, and resulting in lengthy menus. I wonder if you have any better ideas for picking bondage devices? I have used Devious Devices Equip before, but still find it tiring to create and apply outfits. Also there is the in-development KziitdXXXToolset ported by GuliGuli which has so many amazing-looking restraints. I really like that your mod utilizes both ZAP and DD devices already, and hungry for more😋! Spoiler Edited October 10, 2024 by HiddenHari
Lazy Palm Posted October 10, 2024 Author Posted October 10, 2024 1 hour ago, HiddenHari said: Wanna inquire on how the hybrid mode works for rule selection. The mistress would require me to pick a new rule every once in a while, but when I choose the "I want to talk about my rules" dialogue, she always says I need to behave better. I have made sure I have no punishment due and have a couple of points to spare. Am I missing something? Besides that, I didn't find other major issues recently. The mod is very very fun, and enjoyable to use!😝 I will check that out. I suspect I just messed with some variable somewhere when I was re-organizing code. Hopefully. Thanks for letting me know that other stuff has been running well. I did some tests, but I only have like 2 dozen mods on in my load order so I am not sure my tests are ever "real world". So glad you are having fun with it! I feel like it is EVER so slowly getting to be a more cohesive experience.
Lazy Palm Posted October 10, 2024 Author Posted October 10, 2024 1 hour ago, HiddenHari said: Starting since 0.1.9 preview 9, posing for dialogue uses the "conversation" option under the pose menu, and I believe the old "attention" pose option is a bit redundant now? Attention is still used for the dismissed rule. And I had some other events in mind where your dom is conducting business in town and expects you to follow them around, and you would be expected to stand still while they are busy. Also, I was kicking around the idea of standing at attention by doors and waiting for the dom to give you enter/exit permission as an alternative mode to kneeling and asking. 1 hour ago, HiddenHari said: Posing for dialogue and occasionally forgetting to do so is very fun😅. Yeah, I was doing some testing today while that rule was on and I could not for the life of me remember to do the conversation pose, so I guess it works as intended, slightly tricky 🤣 1 hour ago, HiddenHari said: I also want to nudge you gently to add more restraint options, if you don't have other priorities😽. Yeah, I miss all the colorful items. I will try to dedicate a few hours to that soon! 1 hour ago, HiddenHari said: Or maybe you would consider creating a system for random/dom-selected devices to add variation in restraints? I was pondering this. There was a chat a few pages ago where I was saying I needed to bring back that Metal, Rope, Leather/Ebonite dropdown so you could get random items in a theme. There are just a lot of overlapping slot items that I need to account for, so I would need to carry some additional slot information with items and make sure there are not equip collisions. I know it would add some fun variation if I did get it working, and this is primarily a bondage mod after all... 1 hour ago, HiddenHari said: I understand there are just too many devices with color variations, so including all of them at once would be tedious work, and resulting in lengthy menus. I wonder if you have any better ideas for picking bondage devices? I have used Devious Devices Equip before, but still find it tiring to create and apply outfits. Also there is the in-development KziitdXXXToolset ported by GuliGuli which has so many amazing-looking restraints. I really like that your mod utilizes both ZAP and DD devices already, and hungry for more😋! I will definitely check this out! Would love some rope options to be available. DD is pretty limited to those armbinders. In one of my previous iterations I did some major decoupling of bondage mods into modular files so it would easier to keep adding new frameworks. Might be a good time to test the theory! 1
d4079925 Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 Just wanted to let you know that I love this mod. It's amaze-balls! Thanks for making this, and I really appreciate you working on this. It's so "brain-canon" friendly, and really works well as an augment to one's playthrough. One suggestion I'd like to make is that followers are always a pain to take along to dungeons, for stealth archers - Therefore: You know that mod "Legacy of the Dragonborn" that let's one set up a tent anywhere in the world, and entering it leads to it's own interior? What if you had a placeable "trap door" that would lead to a centralized torture chamber. This way, when one asks the dom permission to enter a dungeon/adventuring instance/keep/cave/whatever they'll set up a trap door outside, and enter the torture chamber to "await your arrival.". One then get's a collar, that works like a 2 way teleportation device between you and the dom. Meaning, when the dom teleports you to them for punishment, for making them wait, you can in turn teleport back to departure origin after dom is done, to continue adventure. All the while, the scene remains undisturbed by "outside events" because it happened inside an isolated instance. For those who don't like loading screens, a mod option can be set to where the dom never recalls the player to them. Instead, the player can elect to teleport the dom to the player. This way, stealth archers can have the best of both worlds - the "attention" of the dom, and the privacy of stealth, without dismissing the dom. Admittedly, this function already works well with the "don't free from enslavement upon follower dismissal" but it feels a bit, ... un-immersive, for the lack of a better way to describe it? Like it's ehrm... causally incongruous. ^_^ Admittedly, a heavy use of teleportation is also somewhat contrived, but the atmosphere and the convenience of torture dungeon could make up for that. Keep doing what you're doing though., this is already one of my super favorite mods, just the way it is Stay awesome :)) 1
HiddenHari Posted October 10, 2024 Posted October 10, 2024 10 hours ago, Lazy Palm said: Attention is still used for the dismissed rule. And I had some other events in mind where your dom is conducting business in town and expects you to follow them around, and you would be expected to stand still while they are busy. Also, I was kicking around the idea of standing at attention by doors and waiting for the dom to give you enter/exit permission as an alternative mode to kneeling and asking. Yes. What about the "stand at attention" vs "attention" (under "pose" menu)? Do these two do the same thing now? Also thanks for taking the time to respond!🤗
Lazy Palm Posted October 10, 2024 Author Posted October 10, 2024 11 hours ago, d4079925 said: Just wanted to let you know that I love this mod. It's amaze-balls! Thanks for making this, and I really appreciate you working on this. It's so "brain-canon" friendly, and really works well as an augment to one's playthrough. Thanks so much for the kind feedback. I am glad you are enjoying it! 11 hours ago, d4079925 said: One suggestion I'd like to make is that followers are always a pain to take along to dungeons, for stealth archers - Therefore: You know that mod "Legacy of the Dragonborn" that let's one set up a tent anywhere in the world, and entering it leads to it's own interior? What if you had a placeable "trap door" that would lead to a centralized torture chamber. This way, when one asks the dom permission to enter a dungeon/adventuring instance/keep/cave/whatever they'll set up a trap door outside, and enter the torture chamber to "await your arrival.". One then get's a collar, that works like a 2 way teleportation device between you and the dom. Meaning, when the dom teleports you to them for punishment, for making them wait, you can in turn teleport back to departure origin after dom is done, to continue adventure. All the while, the scene remains undisturbed by "outside events" because it happened inside an isolated instance. For those who don't like loading screens, a mod option can be set to where the dom never recalls the player to them. Instead, the player can elect to teleport the dom to the player. This way, stealth archers can have the best of both worlds - the "attention" of the dom, and the privacy of stealth, without dismissing the dom. Admittedly, this function already works well with the "don't free from enslavement upon follower dismissal" but it feels a bit, ... un-immersive, for the lack of a better way to describe it? Like it's ehrm... causally incongruous. ^_^ Admittedly, a heavy use of teleportation is also somewhat contrived, but the atmosphere and the convenience of torture dungeon could make up for that. I did not at all consider people that like to play alone for stealth builds. Which is funny because 1/2 my play throughs have been solo stealth archer... Short term, I think you can probably tell your follower to Wait Here at the entrance and then when you exit kneel down, they will teleport to your location (at the exit). That said, I like your idea! There are probably a lot of potential options that could accommodate not wanting your follower around while adventuring. A follower that would prefer to drink at the inn while you adventure. A follower that follows far behind in the dungeon while you clear ahead, because fighting is just slave duties. A follower that will wait for you at the exit and will require some relaxation events. 4
Lazy Palm Posted October 10, 2024 Author Posted October 10, 2024 7 hours ago, HiddenHari said: Yes. What about the "stand at attention" vs "attention" (under "pose" menu)? Do these two do the same thing now? Also thanks for taking the time to respond!🤗 They are duplicates. I have just not gotten rid of the top level one yet. Things to do!
Lazy Palm Posted October 10, 2024 Author Posted October 10, 2024 15 hours ago, 1whirled said: 7900XT Red Devil here, non-coil whine version. And I thought I was the only person that had ever purchased an AMD GPU. Prices were nuts for Nvidia during the pandemic and I managed to get that it for pretty close to MSRP and it has been a really decent card so far. Mine defaults at zero RPM also, I will have to try setting it to a higher minimum RPM, but I probably don't have have quite the airflow in the case you do to keep it at 40%. Of course the screaming AIO on my CPU drowns it out with other fan noise most of the time anyway 😀
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