(WiP) A prostitution and player slavery mod 0.10.2c

[Lyman the Lunatic]

Sorry, CTD. So the new feature on 1.2C are the patrons? It seems this feature conflicted with Populated Cities. I always use Populated Cities to get over the fact there are way too few NPCs in the tavern.

 

The other thing I found is that this mod doesn't aware if my char. did the Saadia's quest or not. I just made a new char & she didn't do the quest yet, but talked as if she's not there. Also, why does it mod forced Saadia to greet my char?

 

EDIT

 

It's Lively Inns & Taverns, I forgot to delete it. While testing, I also find that my char. can't stop working on the 2nd night because there's no "I'm done for the day" dialogue, only "I'm ready for work", but that might be because of Lively Inns & Taverns. Also, for a mod in development for too long, I expect it to be more refined, dialogues are weird as usual.

[Reigor]

I don't use sneak tools currently, cuz I have a stripped down just testing setup, but I plan on to.  What appealed to me was being able to use a mask to disguise one's identity when committing a crime, so that the bounty is on the "masked thief" but not you unless captured. Also, the sneak behind throat slitting maneuver sounds useful as well. I plan on eventually playing with Hardcore needs world Requiem with an arcane thief/assassin build.  What I would like to do is pick pockets during sex or do a surprise attack during the deed.  Murder, Theft, and Seduction sort of covers this, but only with quest specific targets. I've been looking for something more general.   

[Princessity]

No, just no. We already have concrete plans with Hulda. And spreading your legs for her as a punishment will never be an option. You already have to pay if you messed up the orders and to compensate loss. She will put a bounty on you if you try to steal (Currently, probably subject to change).

 

This kind of slavery is currently not a development goal.

Do you mean hulda exactly or just whoever is bannered mare innkeeper? ^^ What if Hulda dies and is replaced by Ysolda because a brawl went wrong and your follower decided it's perfect excuse to murder everybody?

[Alexandra The Nord Queen]

So, i downloaded the mod, i see that you have the option to work in tavern, serving and sometimes ask for have sex. Is there anything else?

This talks about "slavery". How this works in the mod? Is this already working or in development yet?

[Heromaster]

Sorry, CTD. So the new feature on 1.2C are the patrons? It seems this feature conflicted with Populated Cities. I always use Populated Cities to get over the fact there are way too few NPCs in the tavern.

 

The other thing I found is that this mod doesn't aware if my char. did the Saadia's quest or not. I just made a new char & she didn't do the quest yet, but talked as if she's not there. Also, why does it mod forced Saadia to greet my char?

 

EDIT

 

It's Lively Inns & Taverns, I forgot to delete it. While testing, I also find that my char. can't stop working on the 2nd night because there's no "I'm done for the day" dialogue, only "I'm ready for work", but that might be because of Lively Inns & Taverns. Also, for a mod in development for too long, I expect it to be more refined, dialogues are weird as usual.

No, it is just a bug fix where you couldn't end the shift if you had sex with more than one customer. APPS does not force Saadia to greet you. It is a vanilla scene which will be played whenever you enter the Bannered Mare the first time and take a seat.

 

What do you mean by 'dialogues are weird as usual'?

 

 

No, just no. We already have concrete plans with Hulda. And spreading your legs for her as a punishment will never be an option. You already have to pay if you messed up the orders and to compensate loss. She will put a bounty on you if you try to steal (Currently, probably subject to change).

 

This kind of slavery is currently not a development goal.

Do you mean hulda exactly or just whoever is bannered mare innkeeper? ^^ What if Hulda dies and is replaced by Ysolda because a brawl went wrong and your follower decided it's perfect excuse to murder everybody?

 

 

I mean Hulda. If Hulda died before APPS is started, there will no story to be told. APPS takes care of her and changes her status so she can not be killed by accident.

[Heromaster]

So, i downloaded the mod, i see that you have the option to work in tavern, serving and sometimes ask for have sex. Is there anything else?

This talks about "slavery". How this works in the mod? Is this already working or in development yet?

 

The slavery part is still in development.

[Scarlett]

So is this mod worth downloading at the moment?

 

Is there anything more to it at the moment or is pretty much like Radiant prostitution? 

 

(Just wondering which I should go with and such, playing a prostitute character who does not fight and uses speech/illusion )

[Regallag the Perv]

i think i'll not spoil something if i say that Hulda will play a major role in this mod, hence why it starts in and surrounds the bannered mare. ^^

 

A little question to our players that's kinda important for the part of the story that i'll work on next:

is anyone of you using sneak tools or a similar mod?

if yes: Why excatly and what of it's extended funtionality comes in handy most of the time for you?

if not: Why?

I do not use sneak tools.  I wasn't even aware of it's existence until you mentioned it.

[CGi]

So is this mod worth downloading at the moment?

 

Is there anything more to it at the moment or is pretty much like Radiant prostitution? 

 

(Just wondering which I should go with and such, playing a prostitute character who does not fight and uses speech/illusion )

Atm RP offers a more complete experience, as the available version of APPS is more a preview version.

And due to the fact that for the next release of APPS you need a save game w/o APPS, you're better of not installing it unless you would like to see what it got to offer, like experimenting and maybe contributing ideas for the next version.

[aqqh]

So is this mod worth downloading at the moment?

 

Is there anything more to it at the moment or is pretty much like Radiant prostitution? 

 

(Just wondering which I should go with and such, playing a prostitute character who does not fight and uses speech/illusion )

You can try it out on some unimportant save but with your main character - i would wait till new version.

 

 

Oh and whatever character i play i usually rely on sneak quite a lot.

Sneak tools adds some very interesting features for sneak gameplay. Its cool to play with but i can live without that aswell.

Its just a way to improve things that bethesda messed up - for example there was a quest in dawnguard DLC that Vampires are sending you to kill someone disguised as a dawnguard. You do so but still you get a bounty for your personal account, and you need to get yourself cought to clear it - this is just plain ridiculous.

[theHatzel]

Idea: When the Whore Mode is active, you could do some way for the player ask to NPCs "if they want the job". You could also put the Active and Desactive options on the Menu, and put some slider for us to chose the frequency that the NPCs will come asking for sex.

[Lyman the Lunatic]

 

 APPS does not force Saadia to greet you. It is a vanilla scene which will be played whenever you enter the Bannered Mare the first time and take a seat.

 

What do you mean by 'dialogues are weird as usual'?

 

 

 

Hmm...

Unlikely, because my char (this new char. I made) been inside the Bannered Mare before & left it for at least twice. With APPS, Saadia approached her at least once a day.

 

Weird, as in how unnatural it is. Too much pauses, as if all the NPCs pause every 5 word or something.

[Scarlett]

So is there really anything in this mod other than serving food and serving people when they need sex? Is there any secret gems?

 

(I don't care about spoilers o-o just want to know if there is anything currently, that would make me want to continue giving people bread and sex)

[Scarlett]

Well, I must say this mod seems fantastic! 

 

So, it would seem that the quest and the mod itself pretty much ends once you prove yourself to Hulga's two whores? They said nothing after the fact, nor does Hulga have anything to say to me when I check up on her. 

 

But, anyways, this mod, in my opinion is going to be a really great mod. It really made me feel like I was a waitress, it felt like it took forevvveeeerrrrr to finish my first day of work, just like it should. Than the second day rolled around, and sheesh it felt just as long. And than finally my reward to become a whore, actually felt like a reward! 

 

One tip: Get someone that can translate to English or fix the grammar and spelling mistakes. 

 

I cannot wait, for more quests to be released *.*

 

[Heromaster]

Hmm...

Unlikely, because my char (this new char. I made) been inside the Bannered Mare before & left it for at least twice. With APPS, Saadia approached her at least once a day.

 

Weird, as in how unnatural it is. Too much pauses, as if all the NPCs pause every 5 word or something.

 

As I said, APPS does not change the behavior of Saadia.

 

Sorry but I don't understand what you are trying to say. Care to explain it a bit more?

 

Well, I must say this mod seems fantastic! 

 

So, it would seem that the quest and the mod itself pretty much ends once you prove yourself to Hulga's two whores? They said nothing after the fact, nor does Hulga have anything to say to me when I check up on her. 

 

But, anyways, this mod, in my opinion is going to be a really great mod. It really made me feel like I was a waitress, it felt like it took forevvveeeerrrrr to finish my first day of work, just like it should. Than the second day rolled around, and sheesh it felt just as long. And than finally my reward to become a whore, actually felt like a reward! 

 

One tip: Get someone that can translate to English or fix the grammar and spelling mistakes. 

 

I cannot wait, for more quests to be released *.*

 

Yep, APPS currently ends after you talked to the whores. There should be a last dialogue, though. But it seems alot of people had problems triggering it so it may be a bug.

 

Yep, this is the plan for APPS. You should earn your rewards, nothing will be gifted out of nowhere

 

We have some willing people who want to proof-read and polish the English dialogues. We will get in contact with them as soon as we are ready to release the next part.

[sashalag]

No, never even bothered to look for such, since sneaking in Skyrim is quite easy anyway.

 

Same here.

The only mod related to sneaking that I use is "Master Disguise", but I think it only works in the civil war quest...

[Lyman the Lunatic]

 

Sorry but I don't understand what you are trying to say. Care to explain it a bit more?

 

 

Well, some of them can be refined to use lesser commas, that's a start. Maybe change it to something like, for the whoring "Find a place to have sex with (name of NPC) " order food "Bring the food order from (name of NPC) to Hulda"

 

Hmm... I kinda forgot what are the lines in your mod. But yeah, they ould use some refinement.

[CGi]

Ya ya, we understood and already know that my quick translation sucks.
But as a reminder again: This was a quick (emphasis on quick) translation to get the mod out and it's only a preview.
Next versions will not be translated by me (maybe the raw german -> english one in case we decide for an native english speaker) and the final translation by someone who's better at this then me.

 

Can we go back to the last topics again please?
The poll may be gone, but we still want to hear your opinion about dead ends in mods or if we should leave them out.
And the other question is about sneaking. Are you using any mods that enhance it, then why or if you don't, why not.

 

So far most people voted for dead ends and the few that answered the question about sneaking tend to use pure vanilla.

But as only a few answrered so far, those questions are still up2date.

[traveller_phi]

Ya ya, we understood and already know that my quick translation sucks.

But as a reminder again: This was a quick (emphasis on quick) translation to get the mod out and it's only a preview.

Next versions will not be translated by me (maybe the raw german -> english one in case we decide for an native english speaker) and the final translation by someone who's better at this then me.

 

Can we go back to the last topics again please?

The poll may be gone, but we still want to hear your opinion about dead ends in mods or if we should leave them out.

And the other question is about sneaking. Are you using any mods that enhance it, then why or if you don't, why not.

 

So far most people voted for dead ends and the few that answered the question about sneaking tend to use pure vanilla.

But as only a few answrered so far, those questions are still up2date.

 

Dead ends are ok as long as they aren't surprise dead ends. That is the player should be able to guess they are heading down a dead end patch before it is too late to turn around. For example, say character A is integral in the decision to enslave the PC. But there is also an option to seduce A, in which case A falls in love and prevents the slavery from happening. Now unless there is enough background information imparted to inform the player that A is important to the slavery portion, and that A would not enslave a lover, the player would not expect that seduction option would lock them out of the slave quest. If they figured out that A was important, they could easily guess that seducing A would accelerate the enslavement, by making themselves more desirable.

 

[aqqh]

As someone said if there would be an option leading to dead end poeople would want to take it simply out of curiosity.

So basicly all you would have to do is to force the game to do an autosave just before the final choice would be made - easiest way to do that would be to force a player to change location/enter somewhere through load doors.

 

People would check out the dead end option and then load that autosave and progress further with non dead end option. Relatively easy and everyone should be happy.

[sashalag]

About dead ends, I think they should be good for the slavery stuff ( PC submission could be the end of the dragonborn aventures...), just put an advice telling "don´t use this mod with your main save" in the main post

[traveller_phi]

As someone said if there would be an option leading to dead end poeople would want to take it simply out of curiosity.

So basicly all you would have to do is to force the game to do an autosave just before the final choice would be made - easiest way to do that would be to force a player to change location/enter somewhere through load doors.

 

People would check out the dead end option and then load that autosave and progress further with non dead end option. Relatively easy and everyone should be happy.

 

 

About dead ends, I think they should be good for the slavery stuff ( PC submission could be the end of the dragonborn aventures...), just put an advice telling "don´t use this mod with your main save" in the main post

 

I think my point on making sure the PC understands where the choice will lead before making it should be enough to handle this. They can make sure to save before entering into the dead end, which also allows for a longer dead end. Also I think there are two types of dead end: one a dead end for this mod, which closes out the possibility of reaching the "end" of the quest, and a game dead end which actually does end the game. The former would be much less impactful on the dragonborn adventures than the latter of course.

[jkarpynczyk]

How do you start the slaver faction quests?

[Guest MrLange]

@jkarpynczyk

This is still a WIP so at the moment there is no slaver faction quest.

The only quest there is, is the tavern wench quest, starting by Hulda in the Bannered Mare.

[sashalag]

@jkarpynczyk

This is still a WIP so at the moment there is no slaver faction quest.

The only quest there is, is the tavern wench quest, starting by Hulda in the Bannered Mare.

 

Yup, not much to do apart from brainstorming here, although it seems that most of us are more interested in the slavery stuff than another prostitution mod