Selenia Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 the mcm menu appear. But i cant start the quest. No options in dialog with Hulda Using the comand "sqv apps_controller" show me: Enable: NO Status: Stopped Any idea? (sorry my bad english)
Heromaster Posted March 12, 2014 Author Posted March 12, 2014 Try to go out of the tavern and enter it again. The quest should be started as soon as you enter the tavern.
Regallag the Perv Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 I've got an idea for a quest. It's like the 'home devilery' quest in Radiant Prostitution (I actually suggested it for that mod, but I havn't seen any activity there in a while), with a twist: When you get to the client's home, they've got a pillory set up. The client wants to lock your pretty ass in there and have his/her way with you. You can refuse or accept. Refusing means you don't gey paid (of course) and you have to go back to tavern keeper and explain, maybe with negative consequences for turning down a job. Accepting means the client locks your pretty ass in there and goes to town, letting you out and paying you once he/she is finished (maybe with some kind of 'rough sex' debuff on the PC). If you want to make it more complicated later on there are all sorts of options. Refusal could lead to a brawl or even a real fight, with more consequences if you win or lose. There might be more NPCs who come out once you're locked in the pillory and run a train on the PC, leading to a quest to find them and get revenge. The client might keep you locked and and just leave without paying, leaving the PC to be rescued a day or two later and leading to a quest to get revenge. The client might keep the PC as a slave, take the PC away as a slave, the tavern keeper was in on it, etc.
CGi Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 This is a nice idea, but one of those that are hard to get in-game in a way that the player is not bored or even annoyed.This definitly needs some brainstorming, so we can think up a way on how to vusualize it and to keep it interessting/entertaining.P.s.: No one having an idea for an not-so-serious quest? Maybe a reference to a movie or another game?
T_b_d4 Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Here is a twist if you like. Having the dragonborn auction off. However, the drgaonborn does not know that they are being sold. For example Dragonborn has a client over in riften then another one at a different city. The draonboard would need to bring back a clothing item. Then goes to another point where the drgaonborn would need to put the cloths on then has to go into a cage by the stables (Or simulare area). Where the Inn orner lockes the cage. Only then would learn of their fate. The person who buys the dragonboarn would have other quests for them to do in order to get back there freedom. (after all they paid good money) This quest could actually go on for some time. Since the NPC who bought the dragonborn could also sell them to another person as well. Just a thought.
Selenia Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Try to go out of the tavern and enter it again. The quest should be started as soon as you enter the tavern. Did not work
CGi Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Here is a twist if you like. Having the dragonborn auction off. However, the drgaonborn does not know that they are being sold. For example Dragonborn has a client over in riften then another one at a different city. The draonboard would need to bring back a clothing item. Then goes to another point where the drgaonborn would need to put the cloths on then has to go into a cage by the stables (Or simulare area). Where the Inn orner lockes the cage. Only then would learn of their fate. The person who buys the dragonboarn would have other quests for them to do in order to get back there freedom. (after all they paid good money) This quest could actually go on for some time. Since the NPC who bought the dragonborn could also sell them to another person as well. Just a thought. This is an awesome idea, imho. Giving the player the impression of doing errands, missions or whats-o-ever but actually being sold/rented w/o knowing it. Got to see what Hero thinks about it, as we already discussed something that involves selling the dragonborn, but i really like this idea.
jxm Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 Ah okay, brainstorming time? I'll just throw in some random stuff then: 1. A bit of fun maybe, though nothing epic: You (the Dragonborn of course) are hired for a special service: A young nobleman wants to experience his first time ... but his family is simply a bunch of divine-worshipping pricks that think sex and Dibella should not play any role in their son's over-protected life. His uncle (a notorious drunkard, the black sheep of the family) therefore hires you to get his nephew some fun. But you first have to get into their guarded mansion, maybe in disguise as the new maid, or by sneaking in secretly, or paying the family guards with the freebie *cough*... It would, of course, end the American Pie way of embarrasment with the parents catching you in the act. It could end, depending a bit on your chars charms ^^ maybe with a nice little orgy after you convinced the parents that Dibella sent you and they incurred her wrath? Or, if that fails, you end in jail and the uncle finally makes sure you cum free... As I said, nothing "epic", but more lighthearted, with lots of opportunity for some fun dialogue and "sitcom"-style antics 2. Another thing I would love to see (though it might be a bit hard to mod on the technical side?) would be a Gangbang-Contest against another whore that thinks she can take on more men a single night then you (Google Empress Messalina for historical precedence). Quest-wise she could first challenge you (after you have made yourself a bit of a name as a whore), and of course the bitch would try her best to cheat. If you just go into the contest and fuck the night away you will eventually pass out and lose .. however if you first make some inquiries about your opponent you find out she uses a very special stamina-draught that keeps her fit while fucking So of course you would need to make sure you are on equal terms by sabotaging her secret mixture and find the ingredients for yourself. If you lose the gangbang-contest, she'll own your arse for some time, and/or almost all the money you might make by whoring will go to her. And if you win, of course, she'll be a nice source of incum...I mean income The contest itself is the thing that makes my head scratch though...I envision it as some kind of "moderated event"...lots of men cheering, drinking etc, with the two protagonists getting it on, and some kind of commentator at the side, who is keeping track of the action etc. As I said, I am not modder and not sure if anthing is possible/doable, but in my head it looks rather cool Maybe I'll get something else tomorrow, got to sleep over it!
CGi Posted March 12, 2014 Posted March 12, 2014 This whole quest brainstorming goes pretty much out of hand.We already planed prostitution and slavery quests. Fixed and radiant, involving almost all fetishes. But those are all only on paper for now, as the underlying technique is not done yet.The quests i meant are quests that can involve sex, but sex should not be the main focus.Why is that? Hero created a main story for APPS, which is not based on sex but involves sex (ofc).So what we need to think up now are more radiant quests, quests to fill parts of the main story, as well as mini and side quests. Those should not solely be about sex, but can ofc start with sex, end with sex or involve sex somewhere in between. The story for those quests should not point towards sex. APPS will offer more then enough possibilities to engage in virtual sex and if we really lack the imagination to create more sex content, we'll definitly ask you people (what shouldn't be needed as we already received a hell lot of ideas from you people - yes we wrote those down and will mix and match as needed). @Jxm: Contest, huh? ^^ Hero can tell you a story about this idea. 'Nuff said.
Guest Xluxlu Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 sorry my bad english, and sorry if i didn´t read all the sugestion posted there, but, in this post Dom Spouse/follower the autor put a few ideas very interesting about how the PC can be a slave if the PC is too submisive, i copy and paste his ideas because my english is not very good.. please see the spoiler Dominant Spouse wants to mark PC as their own. Can be repeated adding more tattoos to the body in new locations (slave tattoo mod tie in) ~Player can choose to obey and develop a submissive personality or say no and develop a dominant personality of her own Dominant spouse brings you to a random cave or fort ruin and says they want to explore it. ~PC can chose to obey and follow the spouse through the cave/ruin, or convince the spouse they the PC should be leading. Or convince the spouse that it is a bad idea and they should just go home. Dominant Spouse wants sex ~player can submit and have sex or tell the spouse they aren’t in the mood refuse this enough and the spouse might choose to rape PC. Spouse wants to put PC in her place and tells her to clean his boots/feet with her tongue ~PC can choose to obey or refuse Dominant Spouse wants PC to wear a gag, armbinder, chastity belt with or without plugs...etc (devious devices tie in) ~player can choose to wear the item until the spouse comes and takes it off or the player can tell the spouse they will never put something like that on willingly. Dominant Spouse brings PC to a town that they are Thane of and has her tell (x) amount of people that she is a slut/whore/slave etc... (if the PC is not thane in any city the destination will be random) ~Again player can choose to obey or tell spouse no to further develop their personality type Dominant Spouse Decides that they are not financially secure and decides to pimp out the PC in the closest city until (x) amount of gold is earned. ~Each time the spouse gains 500 gold he will add a new piece of zaz furniture to the basement/beast room If spouse is left at home the player must return to them once every 4 days otherwise the player receives a debuff that gives -20 points off all skills until the player has interacted with their spouse Dominant Spouse hires a beast handler for the home and the dom has the player have sex with them, each time the spouse has the player have sex with a larger creature and has one of the creatures added to a cage in the basement. After the PC has refused the spouse 10 times the Dominant Spouse Brings PC to solitude town square and puts her in a random Zaz cage, pillory, x-cross....etc for a few in game hours to try and break her will ~after the animation ends the player can choose if their will has been broken or not. If the player chooses to have their will broken they will only have the option to refuse the pimping interaction with a high speechcraft and will no longer be able to refuse the tattoo, thane humiliation, sex, and devious clothing interactions After the PC has obeyed 10 of the spouses commands, the Spouse will come to the player and demand that the PC becomes their slave. ~player must have at least 80 speechcraft to refuse, after all you have been cultivating this type of personality After the player becomes their spouses slave the spouse becomes their master/mistress/owner and will demand that the player gives them a certain amount of money every week (configurable in MCM) and will have no choice but to obey the wishes of their owner/master/mistress. If the player chose not to break to their spouses will in the town square punishment they can pretend that they gave in and lure the spouse out the wild and kill him/her freeing themselves of the marriage. After becoming slave, Spouse can decide to lead his slave through town by a leash (not visible) naked on her hands and knees showing off his property to the town folk. If the PC doesn’t come home with the amount of gold master/mistress/owner will tie PC to post and whip her. When arriving at home with spouse he will inform the player that he has setup a party for his friends and that the player would be expected to “entertain” them until the party is over (this includes sex, whipping, serving drinks, and erotic dancing)
Princessity Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 Actuallish back when I had ambitious plans for VT I wanted to make a few radiant quests player could do for a group of vampires I wanted to introduce. One of them was infiltration because I felt it was something missing from skyrim radiants and could be lots of fun! It was like this: player was supposed to leave all unessential equipment with the quest giver (kinda like before the Thalmor party quest from skyrim's main story) and get a disguise and then would go to a randomly picked bandit, forsworn or mage dungeon and mind control the leader to like destabilise or manipulate or stuffs the group. Another version of that was going to be a "diplomatic envoy" thingy that was kinda the same thing only sent you to a vampire dungeon to negotiate with the leader instead. In either case you had to avoid attacking anyone or spending too much time being observed because it would blow your cover and the quest would fail if it happened Anyways I abandoned my quest development plans but I soooooo love the formula and Ive been kinda hoping someone else would pick it up ^^ Mebe not in exactly the same form but I think it could be easily adapted for APPS! It doesn't have to involve sex but I guess it could (forexamplish if player's cover is blown while in the middle of a bandit camp and wearing only a disguise and concealed dagger.... or as a means of bribing a suspicious guard or as a way of persuading the leader and so on) I always felt this kind of subtle and socially focused missions should be in skyrim with all the diplomatic tensions and political intrigues going on but nuuuuuh, most radiants are just totally uncreative "kill someone" or "find some item" ._.
CGi Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 @xluxlu: Thanks for the info. We'll read thru it and see what we can incorporate from his ideas. @Ms Leeches: Yes i'll continue using this nickname, Ms Spiders. ^^ Time for some spoilers.We was thinking the same, that Skyrim misses some less standard quests, like the Cluedo quest in Oblivion, so i already thought about an quest that is about infiltrating (to get some informations first) the sl... nope, not going to tell you. Another quest is about detective work, searching for clues and one for playing some indiana Jones, trying to recover some unusual artifacts. The indy one is hard to create, to not make it feel like "Go there, loot this and bring it here". So ideas that seperate itself from the usual RPG stuff are highly welcome and appriciated. Some details of your idea sound very interessting and i'll see what i can do to do them justice and integrate them properly into the infiltration quest. And yes, some quest can be solved in different/alternative ways, where one can be sex. This idea is based on an mod by Bromm83, called Solutions.
Regallag the Perv Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 So you want a short, silly quest, huh? Okay, I've got one of those. It could start through a letter or a dialog or whatever after you've become known as Dragonborn. You are told that a man is seeking someone of your particular talents to help with a private, intimate problem he's been having since his wife passed away. You arrive at his home... Of course, you think he wants to bang you. So when, after some brief pleasantries, he leaves the room 'to get some drinks for his guest,' you get naked. He returns, and freaks out. It turns out he wanted an adventurer to search for item that that belonged to his wife. Hilarity ensues. In the end he decides that he doesn't want a pervert's help and the quest is over.
Guest MrLange Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 2 simple quests that came to my mind: 1. If you're known as the dragonborn, you'll receive a quest from 'person x'. This person wants you to escort her/him from 'location 1' to 'location 2'. This can be a city, a farm or something similar. You travel to 'location 1', meet with the client, and start to escort him/her to 'location 2' (no fast travel, you have to go by foot [or horse]). On the way you and your client will be attacked by bandits. If you can fight off the bandits, everything is fine, you can escort her/him to 'location 2' and get your reward (e.g. gold).If you fail to fight off the bandits you and your client will be (sexually) abused. After that you can go on with the escort but you won't receive any reward once the quest is finished. TL;DR Escort person x from a to b. Fight off bandits on the way or you'll get abused by them. 2. You are ordered to get something/place something/... in the house from 'person x'. You can do this by picking the locks/break in the house by night. Or you can do this by seducing 'person x', so he'll invite you to his home for the night. Once you are done and 'person x' is fallen asleep, you start to do what you've come for. In both quests you have the choice (more or less ) if you want to have sex or not, so sex isn't mandatory. P.S. I know my english is terrible, sorry for that :/
CGi Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 So you want a short, silly quest, huh? Okay, I've got one of those. It could start through a letter or a dialog or whatever after you've become known as Dragonborn. You are told that a man is seeking someone of your particular talents to help with a private, intimate problem he's been having since his wife passed away. You arrive at his home... Of course, you think he wants to bang you. So when, after some brief pleasantries, he leaves the room 'to get some drinks for his guest,' you get naked. He returns, and freaks out. It turns out he wanted an adventurer to search for item that that belonged to his wife. Hilarity ensues. In the end he decides that he doesn't want a pervert's help and the quest is over. This got my seal of approval. Thanks for the idea, i'll definitly include it . i just got to think up ways to make it not so obvious and find a way so the player undresses on her/his own decission. Or you or someone else got an idea. Every help is welcome and so is every suggestion, not matter if it's for quests or for the relationship framework. 2 simple quests that came to my mind: 1. If you're known as the dragonborn, you'll receive a quest from 'person x'. This person wants you to escort her/him from 'location 1' to 'location 2'. This can be a city, a farm or something similar. You travel to 'location 1', meet with the client, and start to escort him/her to 'location 2' (no fast travel, you have to go by foot [or horse]). On the way you and your client will be attacked by bandits. If you can fight off the bandits, everything is fine, you can escort her/him to 'location 2' and get your reward (e.g. gold). If you fail to fight off the bandits you and your client will be (sexually) abused. After that you can go on with the escort but you won't receive any reward once the quest is finished. TL;DR Escort person x from a to b. Fight off bandits on the way or you'll get abused by them. 2. You are ordered to get something/place something/... in the house from 'person x'. You can do this by picking the locks/break in the house by night. Or you can do this by seducing 'person x', so he'll invite you to his home for the night. Once you are done and 'person x' is fallen asleep, you start to do what you've come for. In both quests you have the choice (more or less ) if you want to have sex or not, so sex isn't mandatory. P.S. I know my english is terrible, sorry for that :/ Hero had a similar idea, but yours is more detailed. Thanks fo the idea, but it lacks something. i don't know what but it doesn't sound complete. Any idea, because i'm at a loss here. :/ P.s.: Funny fact - i already got 5 papers (A4) filled with ideas and suggestions from our users. Written on both sides. Big thanks to everyone who contributed and please keep your ideas and suggestions coming.
sashalag Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 I always though that a way to enslave the powerful dragonborn could be by magic. One of the possible radiant quest I always though, is related to the vanilla quest "In my times of needs", when the Alyk´r uses the paralize spell on Saadia. The Alyk´r always remind me of 1001 nights book, and harems, and sex-slaves, and belly dancers... I think they could fit very well in a slaver faction. What about using the same paralize spell on the dragonborn, then take her to a hidden place to being sold as slave ? The quest could be about the dragonborn having to escape somehow, or (bad end) accept to be the Alyk´r belly dancer and sex-slave...
CGi Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 We only planed enslavement as a part of the main story yet, which will happen on a different basis.But as for side quests, aftermaths and maybe some radiant quests your idea is pretty good.My momentary idea: No matter if the player decided for Saadia or the Alik'r, the Alik'r will develop interesst in the Dragonborn and this is where your idea will take place. Giving this spell to other NPCs would destroy the vanilla game as people could ask why noone else knows it and why all of a sudden they know it now and only use it for the dragonborn. So i think about limiting it to the Alik'r bounty hunters who'll use it as they see fit. Spoiler: The Alik'r will be a part of the early main quest, so this idea could become very handy. Any suggestions regarding this idea are welcome too.
Heromaster Posted March 13, 2014 Author Posted March 13, 2014 I've got an idea for a quest. It's like the 'home devilery' quest in Radiant Prostitution (I actually suggested it for that mod, but I havn't seen any activity there in a while), with a twist: When you get to the client's home, they've got a pillory set up. The client wants to lock your pretty ass in there and have his/her way with you. You can refuse or accept. Refusing means you don't gey paid (of course) and you have to go back to tavern keeper and explain, maybe with negative consequences for turning down a job. Accepting means the client locks your pretty ass in there and goes to town, letting you out and paying you once he/she is finished (maybe with some kind of 'rough sex' debuff on the PC). If you want to make it more complicated later on there are all sorts of options. Refusal could lead to a brawl or even a real fight, with more consequences if you win or lose. There might be more NPCs who come out once you're locked in the pillory and run a train on the PC, leading to a quest to find them and get revenge. The client might keep you locked and and just leave without paying, leaving the PC to be rescued a day or two later and leading to a quest to get revenge. The client might keep the PC as a slave, take the PC away as a slave, the tavern keeper was in on it, etc. Home delivery will be part of the prostitution system. I plan to make them more dynamic so you never know beforehand what awaits you. A home visit will go over multiple stages and 'a dice' will be rolled to determinate what the next stage will be. So this side quest can go from 10 mins playtime to over an hour depending how the random factor kicks in. Spoiler ahead: Prostitution quests will be consensual, the quest givers will not betray you. What happens afterwards, well this is another story for another day Here is a twist if you like. Having the dragonborn auction off. However, the drgaonborn does not know that they are being sold. For example Dragonborn has a client over in riften then another one at a different city. The draonboard would need to bring back a clothing item. Then goes to another point where the drgaonborn would need to put the cloths on then has to go into a cage by the stables (Or simulare area). Where the Inn orner lockes the cage. Only then would learn of their fate. The person who buys the dragonboarn would have other quests for them to do in order to get back there freedom. (after all they paid good money) This quest could actually go on for some time. Since the NPC who bought the dragonborn could also sell them to another person as well. Just a thought. Good idea, I will see how it could be done. Problem with temporary enslavement is to keep the player interested and to make it believeable, that the owner will give you the freedom again after some time. Ah okay, brainstorming time? I'll just throw in some random stuff then: 1. A bit of fun maybe, though nothing epic: You (the Dragonborn of course) are hired for a special service: A young nobleman wants to experience his first time ... but his family is simply a bunch of divine-worshipping pricks that think sex and Dibella should not play any role in their son's over-protected life. His uncle (a notorious drunkard, the black sheep of the family) therefore hires you to get his nephew some fun. But you first have to get into their guarded mansion, maybe in disguise as the new maid, or by sneaking in secretly, or paying the family guards with the freebie *cough*... It would, of course, end the American Pie way of embarrasment with the parents catching you in the act. It could end, depending a bit on your chars charms ^^ maybe with a nice little orgy after you convinced the parents that Dibella sent you and they incurred her wrath? Or, if that fails, you end in jail and the uncle finally makes sure you cum free... As I said, nothing "epic", but more lighthearted, with lots of opportunity for some fun dialogue and "sitcom"-style antics 2. Another thing I would love to see (though it might be a bit hard to mod on the technical side?) would be a Gangbang-Contest against another whore that thinks she can take on more men a single night then you (Google Empress Messalina for historical precedence). Quest-wise she could first challenge you (after you have made yourself a bit of a name as a whore), and of course the bitch would try her best to cheat. If you just go into the contest and fuck the night away you will eventually pass out and lose .. however if you first make some inquiries about your opponent you find out she uses a very special stamina-draught that keeps her fit while fucking So of course you would need to make sure you are on equal terms by sabotaging her secret mixture and find the ingredients for yourself. If you lose the gangbang-contest, she'll own your arse for some time, and/or almost all the money you might make by whoring will go to her. And if you win, of course, she'll be a nice source of incum...I mean income The contest itself is the thing that makes my head scratch though...I envision it as some kind of "moderated event"...lots of men cheering, drinking etc, with the two protagonists getting it on, and some kind of commentator at the side, who is keeping track of the action etc. As I said, I am not modder and not sure if anthing is possible/doable, but in my head it looks rather cool Maybe I'll get something else tomorrow, got to sleep over it! 1. Something similar I already had discussed with CG!. It will be part of the prostitution quests. 2. I already begun to write a quest which contains some sort of contest. Your idea sounds good, but it is hard to implement. Nonetheless it really is awesome. sorry my bad english, and sorry if i didn´t read all the sugestion posted there, but, in this post Dom Spouse/follower the autor put a few ideas very interesting about how the PC can be a slave if the PC is too submisive, i copy and paste his ideas because my english is not very good.. please see the spoiler Dominant Spouse wants to mark PC as their own. Can be repeated adding more tattoos to the body in new locations (slave tattoo mod tie in) ~Player can choose to obey and develop a submissive personality or say no and develop a dominant personality of her own Dominant spouse brings you to a random cave or fort ruin and says they want to explore it. ~PC can chose to obey and follow the spouse through the cave/ruin, or convince the spouse they the PC should be leading. Or convince the spouse that it is a bad idea and they should just go home. Dominant Spouse wants sex ~player can submit and have sex or tell the spouse they aren’t in the mood refuse this enough and the spouse might choose to rape PC. Spouse wants to put PC in her place and tells her to clean his boots/feet with her tongue ~PC can choose to obey or refuse Dominant Spouse wants PC to wear a gag, armbinder, chastity belt with or without plugs...etc (devious devices tie in) ~player can choose to wear the item until the spouse comes and takes it off or the player can tell the spouse they will never put something like that on willingly. Dominant Spouse brings PC to a town that they are Thane of and has her tell (x) amount of people that she is a slut/whore/slave etc... (if the PC is not thane in any city the destination will be random) ~Again player can choose to obey or tell spouse no to further develop their personality type Dominant Spouse Decides that they are not financially secure and decides to pimp out the PC in the closest city until (x) amount of gold is earned. ~Each time the spouse gains 500 gold he will add a new piece of zaz furniture to the basement/beast room If spouse is left at home the player must return to them once every 4 days otherwise the player receives a debuff that gives -20 points off all skills until the player has interacted with their spouse Dominant Spouse hires a beast handler for the home and the dom has the player have sex with them, each time the spouse has the player have sex with a larger creature and has one of the creatures added to a cage in the basement. After the PC has refused the spouse 10 times the Dominant Spouse Brings PC to solitude town square and puts her in a random Zaz cage, pillory, x-cross....etc for a few in game hours to try and break her will ~after the animation ends the player can choose if their will has been broken or not. If the player chooses to have their will broken they will only have the option to refuse the pimping interaction with a high speechcraft and will no longer be able to refuse the tattoo, thane humiliation, sex, and devious clothing interactions After the PC has obeyed 10 of the spouses commands, the Spouse will come to the player and demand that the PC becomes their slave. ~player must have at least 80 speechcraft to refuse, after all you have been cultivating this type of personality After the player becomes their spouses slave the spouse becomes their master/mistress/owner and will demand that the player gives them a certain amount of money every week (configurable in MCM) and will have no choice but to obey the wishes of their owner/master/mistress. If the player chose not to break to their spouses will in the town square punishment they can pretend that they gave in and lure the spouse out the wild and kill him/her freeing themselves of the marriage. After becoming slave, Spouse can decide to lead his slave through town by a leash (not visible) naked on her hands and knees showing off his property to the town folk. If the PC doesn’t come home with the amount of gold master/mistress/owner will tie PC to post and whip her. When arriving at home with spouse he will inform the player that he has setup a party for his friends and that the player would be expected to “entertain” them until the party is over (this includes sex, whipping, serving drinks, and erotic dancing) I originally planned to do some things with your spouse based on your relationship with him/her. But this is something which will be developed later ... much later because it isn't an easy task. The spouse will not force you into something you don't want. Except you earned that kind of treatment Some of your ideas are interesting and we haven't thought about it, so we will see what kind of things we can implement with the tools we have (A bare foot licking animation does not currently exists. And as good as it sounds I want to avoid to present such an action as a message box). Actuallish back when I had ambitious plans for VT I wanted to make a few radiant quests player could do for a group of vampires I wanted to introduce. One of them was infiltration because I felt it was something missing from skyrim radiants and could be lots of fun! It was like this: player was supposed to leave all unessential equipment with the quest giver (kinda like before the Thalmor party quest from skyrim's main story) and get a disguise and then would go to a randomly picked bandit, forsworn or mage dungeon and mind control the leader to like destabilise or manipulate or stuffs the group. Another version of that was going to be a "diplomatic envoy" thingy that was kinda the same thing only sent you to a vampire dungeon to negotiate with the leader instead. In either case you had to avoid attacking anyone or spending too much time being observed because it would blow your cover and the quest would fail if it happened Anyways I abandoned my quest development plans but I soooooo love the formula and Ive been kinda hoping someone else would pick it up ^^ Mebe not in exactly the same form but I think it could be easily adapted for APPS! It doesn't have to involve sex but I guess it could (forexamplish if player's cover is blown while in the middle of a bandit camp and wearing only a disguise and concealed dagger.... or as a means of bribing a suspicious guard or as a way of persuading the leader and so on) I always felt this kind of subtle and socially focused missions should be in skyrim with all the diplomatic tensions and political intrigues going on but nuuuuuh, most radiants are just totally uncreative "kill someone" or "find some item" ._. If you want we can talk about it via PN. Sounds great and would fit to what we have planned already. So you want a short, silly quest, huh? Okay, I've got one of those. It could start through a letter or a dialog or whatever after you've become known as Dragonborn. You are told that a man is seeking someone of your particular talents to help with a private, intimate problem he's been having since his wife passed away. You arrive at his home... Of course, you think he wants to bang you. So when, after some brief pleasantries, he leaves the room 'to get some drinks for his guest,' you get naked. He returns, and freaks out. It turns out he wanted an adventurer to search for item that that belonged to his wife. Hilarity ensues. In the end he decides that he doesn't want a pervert's help and the quest is over. I laughed and I laughed really hard. Great idea and I'm pretty sure, you will see this one day.
traveller_phi Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 So you want a short, silly quest, huh? Okay, I've got one of those. It could start through a letter or a dialog or whatever after you've become known as Dragonborn. You are told that a man is seeking someone of your particular talents to help with a private, intimate problem he's been having since his wife passed away. You arrive at his home... Of course, you think he wants to bang you. So when, after some brief pleasantries, he leaves the room 'to get some drinks for his guest,' you get naked. He returns, and freaks out. It turns out he wanted an adventurer to search for item that that belonged to his wife. Hilarity ensues. In the end he decides that he doesn't want a pervert's help and the quest is over. This got my seal of approval. Thanks for the idea, i'll definitly include it . i just got to think up ways to make it not so obvious and find a way so the player undresses on her/his own decission. Or you or someone else got an idea. Every help is welcome and so is every suggestion, not matter if it's for quests or for the relationship framework. One way to get the player undress, two versions of the quest. The first version plays out how you would expect above. Just need to have a way to message the suggestion to the player that they should disrobe while the guy is out. If the player does disrobe, regular prostitution scene follows. If the player doesn't disrobe, the guy says something like "Oh, I see that you are not serious about this." The quest fails and the guy kicks the player out. After this first quest fires off at least once, there is a random chance that the next will be the same or have the ending in the spoiler above. It should just look like a standard quest with just a random choice of who needs the service each time. The dialogues all identical until the point the man steps out and you have the choice to disrobe or not.
CGi Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 You described almost exactly what Heros idea was, to solve the mentioned problem. ^^ i call this a solution and so it'll be.
JahReit Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 We only planed enslavement as a part of the main story yet, which will happen on a different basis. But as for side quests, aftermaths and maybe some radiant quests your idea is pretty good. My momentary idea: No matter if the player decided for Saadia or the Alik'r, the Alik'r will develop interesst in the Dragonborn and this is where your idea will take place. Giving this spell to other NPCs would destroy the vanilla game as people could ask why noone else knows it and why all of a sudden they know it now and only use it for the dragonborn. So i think about limiting it to the Alik'r bounty hunters who'll use it as they see fit. Spoiler: The Alik'r will be a part of the early main quest, so this idea could become very handy. Any suggestions regarding this idea are welcome too. I, and many others, are tired of the Almighty Dragonborn and wish to play as nothing more than a normal character. My PC (not DB) is a lowly escaped slave girl who knows nothing of dragons and certainly has no knowledge of a Dragonborn. But this idea of the Alik'r taking interest in the PC along with Saadia could make me go back to the boring Dragonborn quest line...almost. However, if you could somehow make the Saadia quest start without starting the Dragonborn quest, I, and many others, would really appreciate it. This wouldn't break the immersive idea, with a little manipulation; the Alik'r would certainly be interested in a Dragonborn, but could also be interested in a normal female who foolishly came to a clandestine meeting at the stables. Maybe use different conversations based on tag Dragonborn or PC.
Lyman the Lunatic Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 For a time, I thought it was abandoned. So I read back to see what I've missed, it's been a while isn't it. For the enslavement, I think the Alik'r is interesting enough, I've been wanting to see my char. got shipped off to be someone's play thing in hammerfell (just the oasis & locked up in a claustrophobic, dark & damp ship environments) Like I said before, I don't like the idea of "being a whore first before becoming a slave" So I was thinking. Maybe that after some time later, your char. get a letter from the Alik'r that they want to give you a gift for helping they catch Saadia (if you decided to help them catch Saadia) & they meet you in a location (the same cave maybe? or a Solitude dock?) to get your reward. Maybe a little bit of celebrations & fade out & wake up again chained & naked? (or at least, in rags & with no items) Your char. can try to talk their way out, but can't fight. Or you can make it more blunt with the "it's a trap" route with Alik'r springing out of their hiding spots & charge right in to capture you & your char. has an option to submit or talk your way out. But if your char. sided Saadia, then it makes more sense I guess, Saadia ask you to deal with the new Alik'r sent to get her again & if you were defeated by the Alik'r, same thing applies. But then, that must mean playing Saadia's quest. How about dipping into Thalmors for a bit? After the FIRST time your char pray to the shrine of Talos, so they want to arrest you. If you're captured, you're taken to a Justicar for torture. But the the thing is this particular justicar they sent you to is actually twisted & racist than any other justicars so the abuse is immense. Make it even worse after your char finished Alduin's Wall quest because the Thalmor would've found that you worked with the Blades, help a Blades suspect escaped & you're that 1 who caused trouble in the embassy. Though they just want to treat you like other prisoners, but they have figured it out you're the dragonborn so they want to keep you close & do some tests. I'll let you figure out what the Thalmor should do. Oh here's the other 1, hunted down by the Stormcloaks or Imperials based on who'd you saved between Hadvar & Ralof or who you sided in the civil war for the people who did the civil war quest. I'm sure you 2 can come up with something. Oh this keep slipping off my mind. An enslaved route for prostitutes, I got this idea while checking Radiant Prostitution Tweaked out. A traveling merchant will eventually fall for you & become your regular customer. 1 night, this merchant came in with a huge chunk of gold & buy you off the innkeeper. Or you can do the kidnap route, so again, being your regular customer, 1 day the merchant wants you to come with him, you can refuse but can (or will) result in getting drugged & your char will wake up on the road outside of the hold & is forced to follow the said merchant & his guards. I'll let you figure out the rest.
CGi Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 I, and many others, are tired of the Almighty Dragonborn and wish to play as nothing more than a normal character. My PC (not DB) is a lowly escaped slave girl who knows nothing of dragons and certainly has no knowledge of a Dragonborn. But this idea of the Alik'r taking interest in the PC along with Saadia could make me go back to the boring Dragonborn quest line...almost. However, if you could somehow make the Saadia quest start without starting the Dragonborn quest, I, and many others, would really appreciate it. This wouldn't break the immersive idea, with a little manipulation; the Alik'r would certainly be interested in a Dragonborn, but could also be interested in a normal female who foolishly came to a clandestine meeting at the stables. Maybe use different conversations based on tag Dragonborn or PC. Sorry. i was stating this wrong. in APPS the player don't has to be the Dragonborn. He can get fame (and by this interesst from other people) by being the Dragonborn or ... something else . So no matter if the player is the dragonborn or just a regular inhabitant of Skyrim, as soon as people know about her/him, they might develop interesst in her/him. But to get the quest with Saadia, the player needs to become the Dragonborn as else the quest will not be available, hence why i wrote Dragonborn and this way send the wrong message. The mentioned quest is due to this nature a side quest, as the main quest of APPS can be played w/o being the Dragonborn, but instead by becoming famous for something else. ^^ This means as well, as soon as the player finished the main quest of APPS w/o being the Dragonborn, more content will become availabe as soon as she/he becomes the dragonborn.Why all this "she/he"? Because we target Homo, Hedro and Bi from the start for both genders. But due to the fact the we're not gay, the content may not be ... well ...you know what i mean, as we use Hedro as base due to missing (and not wanted) knowledge. For a time, I thought it was abandoned. So I read back to see what I've missed, it's been a while isn't it. For the enslavement, I think the Alik'r is interesting enough, I've been wanting to see my char. got shipped off to be someone's play thing in hammerfell (just the oasis & locked up in a claustrophobic, dark & damp ship environments) Like I said before, I don't like the idea of "being a whore first before becoming a slave" So I was thinking. Maybe that after some time later, your char. get a letter from the Alik'r that they want to give you a gift for helping they catch Saadia (if you decided to help them catch Saadia) & they meet you in a location (the same cave maybe? or a Solitude dock?) to get your reward. Maybe a little bit of celebrations & fade out & wake up again chained & naked? (or at least, in rags & with no items) Your char. can try to talk their way out, but can't fight. Or you can make it more blunt with the "it's a trap" route with Alik'r springing out of their hiding spots & charge right in to capture you & your char. has an option to submit or talk your way out. But if your char. sided Saadia, then it makes more sense I guess, Saadia ask you to deal with the new Alik'r sent to get her again & if you were defeated by the Alik'r, same thing applies. But then, that must mean playing Saadia's quest. How about dipping into Thalmors for a bit? After the FIRST time your char pray to the shrine of Talos, so they want to arrest you. If you're captured, you're taken to a Justicar for torture. But the the thing is this particular justicar they sent you to is actually twisted & racist than any other justicars so the abuse is immense. Make it even worse after your char finished Alduin's Wall quest because the Thalmor would've found that you worked with the Blades, help a Blades suspect escaped & you're that 1 who caused trouble in the embassy. Though they just want to treat you like other prisoners, but they have figured it out you're the dragonborn so they want to keep you close & do some tests. I'll let you figure out what the Thalmor should do. Oh here's the other 1, hunted down by the Stormcloaks or Imperials based on who'd you saved between Hadvar & Ralof or who you sided in the civil war for the people who did the civil war quest. I'm sure you 2 can come up with something. All cases for Saadia are already covered on paper, but until you wrote some ideas we hadn't really a way to visualize it and pack it into gameplay. So thanks for sharing.But sending the player to Hammerfell will not happen. Sorry. Thalmor ideas are hard to implement, as we need to reflect the progress of the games main story, the players race and how the player reacted to random travelling Thalmor. And we need to make sure not to "invent" artifical content that may fit the lore of Skyrim but break with the Elder Scroll lore or the next Elder Scroll game. So ya, Thalmor content is put on hold and won't be considered until a later time. @Everyone if you're afraid that we put the player in an almighty role: fear not, as we don't like this too and we do what we can to display the player as a normal being, with weaknesses like any other being. Even tho as the Dragonborn the player will be a more dangerous thread and by this be of more value. But aside from recognizing that, she/he is still a normal living being.
sashalag Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 But sending the player to Hammerfell will not happen. Sorry. As we know Hammerfell is not in the game (not unless anyone makes a mod like "Path to Elsweyr"...), what about just a ship, just the trip to Hammerfell ? could that be possible? I think it could be more or less like a dungeon quest...
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