(WiP) A prostitution and player slavery mod 0.10.2c

[CGi]

A lot of this stuff is heavily influenced by religion. Largely christian influences if we're talking about France. They can be easily ignored since the world of skyrim has its own religious lore.

We'll adapt what he researched, knowing that there's Mara (f.e.) and the possibilty of homo relationships in the World of The Elder Scrolls.

[Vithiss]

 

A lot of this stuff is heavily influenced by religion. Largely christian influences if we're talking about France. They can be easily ignored since the world of skyrim has its own religious lore.

We'll adapt what he researched, knowing that there's Mara (f.e.) and the possibilty of homo relationships in the World of The Elder Scrolls.

 

 

That was my assumption and hope. Skyrim isn't 15th century France, or Norway for that matter. And, I also hope, that the short list itself points out that even in France back then, what actually happened was often at odds with religious and legal dictates of the time, also with our own assumptions.

"Making the beast with two backs" as coitus was once called is something that we humans have been good at finding all sorts of ways of doing, regardless of historical/cultural specifics, leaving the doors wide open for imagining and creating. Eros knows no law but its own, as some poet or someone once said.

 

[CGi]

We will mainly use such real life/history background for price shaping and only second for immersion. if we think greek anal is ok and by this the cheapest, but if we think christian it's the most expensive as it's illegal.
So ya, we'll go with what the lore says and as Hero and i are regular thinking people (non-believing or atheists as the "believer" call it), we'll take any religious modifiers out of the equation first. This'll allow us to work with sole facts and the lore at the same time.

As it stands now, it's oral, anal then vaginal, in this order (cheap -> expensive). Prostition is legal as long as you're working for a pimp/master/mistress or are a pimp yourself, as the Jarls wants their fair share of money too. And so on.
More of the facts Vithiss wrote will be taken into consideration when time has come.

[Corbenik]

 

When will the new version of the mod?

 

When it's done

 

 

 

perfect response

I'm happy knowing you're still working on it. Just don't be like bethesda and release software with 5,000,000 bugs in it. You know, the butterflies and lightning bugs and spiders. Why? What did you think I meant?

[bodomnight]

Dude, i downloaded this mod and liked it a lot! congrats for your work and I hope to play the final version sooner or later

 

I have a question. I finished this version after "having fun" with the girls. Shall i reload a preivous save, or will the quest continue and fix itself when I'll install a further version?

[CGi]

Reload from an save that didn't have this mod active as the next version will not only have a change in content but a change of how it works (technically) as well.

[bodomnight]

Ok, thank you very much

[Heromaster]

 

 

When will the new version of the mod?

 

When it's done

 

 

 

perfect response

I'm happy knowing you're still working on it. Just don't be like bethesda and release software with 5,000,000 bugs in it. You know, the butterflies and lightning bugs and spiders. Why? What did you think I meant?

 

 

No worries, our bug limit is currently set at 4,999,999 bugs, and half of them will not be fixed

 

On a serious note: The mod is far away from being dead, but it is also far away from another release. We encountered some problems, which consumes alot of time to get it to work the way we want. Some of them relies on external work which we can't influence.

In the meantime, we will release another preview mod soon, which is standalone and, depending on user feedback, will later be part of APPS.

 

Dude, i downloaded this mod and liked it a lot! congrats for your work and I hope to play the final version sooner or later

 

I have a question. I finished this version after "having fun" with the girls. Shall i reload a preivous save, or will the quest continue and fix itself when I'll install a further version?

 

Thanks, I like it when people tell us that they liked the mod so far. We will keep up the work and further releases will hopefully entertains you gals and guys as much as this alpha release

 

[dangervolts]

Hi there ! DV Here   (ﾉ∀＼*)

 

First of all, Yesterday, i was curious about APPS , so i installed the mod and played it, and it was nice to have "Pre-order v1.03." (yeah, i get that reply options ) which is indicated clearly that v1.02b is a "trailer" mod, and Im really looking forward to APPS next update  I have some ideas to put though, probably its not everyone's tastes, so im sorry if you didnt like it ┐(´-｀)┌ its just an idea

 

 

I have "you" inside my life in skyrim o(^^o)(o^^)o

 

 

first of all, i do notice this mod is going to make huge changes in the future, but i might suggest a thing about Compabilities, probably about something that didnt alter vanilla stuffs, quest chains etc, since yknow.. Ive found a few mods out there that was actually needs to be played like "ouh ! lets just play the mod in new game, dont include it in our main saves ! its gonna broke it  "

idk about changes the Author are gonna make in the future, but i really hoped it generated new stuffs and ignore altering vanilla stuffs.. since if it breaks any quest.. ppl are gonna treat it like a "mini-game" type :C and hence didnt include it in their main saves. Considering everyone's efforts with ideas, quest ideas,  and the Author's Efforts to make it happen, its just not nice to have the mod treated that way :C . But i know limitations, and i know that it takes effort to mod something out of skyrim, even today just to alter that Hulda Looping bug with CK, i almost fails as many as i can get, so i do know the Author's Huge effort, and its really up to the author, so im sorry if you didnt like it  (T⌓T)

 

 

♪♪♪♪  Unique Unique Creation Creation ヾ(^∇^) ♪♪♪♪

 

 

I was always wondered that why the Slavery method or enslavement method always meant to redirect to "Black Catsuits". I mean, there's a little complications to that and mostly ppl are gonna wondered about it (well.. people's diffrent). So when there's a chance to tell what inside our mind like this, i was thinking that there's an event when we first started the game, that we're actually just tied by a rope on our hands and cant do nothing. I know this seems like odd, like slavery with Ropes? XD but personally, i think making PC's tied in a rope when she/he became a slave, is more like simple and easy way to do for the masters rather than picking out meshes from a bondage armor. Again, this is only my suggestion, and i know that probably the author is gonna need help with meshes and textures too, so basically if its impossible to do, then im sorry for bringing this idea (_　_|||)... And last idea i can think of

 

 

If i were a..

 

 

If thinking about a whore, and if i were a whore, probably the first thing i will do is not only to offer my body inside a tavern.. but outside as well, as well as "advertising" myself as people walking and i offering a service. Probably like erotic dancing in public (idk if such animation exists , i just've seen the ero-dance animation from APPs for the first time o.o)  and It gives impression that i am a "thing" that trying to make myself "sold"
to others. but well, this is again just an idea, if you dont like it, im sorry :C

 

 

And last but not least, 

im really sorry that i dont have any in-depth knowledge in CK, papyrus, or such for skyrim modding. I can only give ideas, and im sorry if its not sufficient. Honestly, if i got any skills in texture, meshes, i really want to help development but i dont have such skills..(*・_・)ノ⌒*

 

 

Well , its all i can think of atm, im sorry its not much, but i hope it can help the Author even a slightest bit of an idea, if it does not, then just ignore my post. 

 im going to bed (´～`) Cya ! ~

 

 

[Heromaster]

Sorry, I have read your post now the fourth time but still don't really know what you're trying to tell me.

[dangervolts]

Sorry, I have read your post now the fourth time but still don't really know what you're trying to tell me.

 

Aww :C

 

Edit : D: actually my post is about some ideas i have for APPS :C

[TheKoFuMatt]

Sorry, I have read your post now the fourth time but still don't really know what you're trying to tell me.

Deutsch:

Was er versucht, im ersten Absatz sagen, ist, dass Ihr Mod sollte seine eigene Kneipe statt mit einem der voreingestellten Skyrim diejenigen haben. Auch etwas mit Seilen und Outfits ich weiß nicht, was er damit meint, das zu tun, im letzten Absatz er sagt, dass der Spieler in der Lage, nach draußen gehen zu Städten / Gemeinden / Dörfer und bieten den Menschen Ihre Dienstleistungen anstatt beschränkt sein einem Gebäude.

 

English:

What he's trying to say in the first paragraph is that your mod should have it's own tavern instead of using one of the preset Skyrim ones. Also something to do with ropes and outfits i don't know what he means by that, in the last paragraph he's saying that the player should be able to go outside to cities/towns/villages and offer people your services rather than being restricted to one area.

[CGi]

We've chosen the Bannered Mare for a reason, as a very special NPC can be found there and it's the point where the story of APPS starts.

 

But we'll have a new interior (including exterior) with background story that should fullfill his wishes as it'll be a ....... and the player has to aquire it first.

in this mod you'll get nothing for free and especially not out of nowhere.

 

Being a streetwhore is planed as well but we didn't even start working on it yet so we don't know if it's even doable with what we have in mind, because standing there with an vanilla idle (or w/e is installed as replacer) will (might) not attract any customers.

 

But the good news is:
PapyrusUtil by h38fh2mf was updated and now has the functionality that was needed to finally continue developing the relationship framework.

Thanks alot for updating it, h38fh2mf. Those array functions save us alot of time and hassle.
But the promissed TestMod for sub/dom testing will come first.

[Heromaster]

Hi there ! DV Here   (ﾉ∀＼*)

 

First of all, Yesterday, i was curious about APPS , so i installed the mod and played it, and it was nice to have "Pre-order v1.03." (yeah, i get that reply options ) which is indicated clearly that v1.02b is a "trailer" mod, and Im really looking forward to APPS next update  I have some ideas to put though, probably its not everyone's tastes, so im sorry if you didnt like it ┐(´-｀)┌ its just an idea

 

 

I have "you" inside my life in skyrim o(^^o)(o^^)o

 

 

first of all, i do notice this mod is going to make huge changes in the future, but i might suggest a thing about Compabilities, probably about something that didnt alter vanilla stuffs, quest chains etc, since yknow.. Ive found a few mods out there that was actually needs to be played like "ouh ! lets just play the mod in new game, dont include it in our main saves ! its gonna broke it  "

idk about changes the Author are gonna make in the future, but i really hoped it generated new stuffs and ignore altering vanilla stuffs.. since if it breaks any quest.. ppl are gonna treat it like a "mini-game" type :C and hence didnt include it in their main saves. Considering everyone's efforts with ideas, quest ideas,  and the Author's Efforts to make it happen, its just not nice to have the mod treated that way :C . But i know limitations, and i know that it takes effort to mod something out of skyrim, even today just to alter that Hulda Looping bug with CK, i almost fails as many as i can get, so i do know the Author's Huge effort, and its really up to the author, so im sorry if you didnt like it  (T⌓T)

 

We will try and not alter too many stuff from the vanilla game. Currently, nothing will be overwritten but will be build on top of what already exists in the vanilla game. Incompatibility is something which will be not avoidable due to the sheer amount of other mods which may or may not break APPS (Or APPS breaks the mods). That said, most conflicts should be resolveable. The plan is to create a longterm mod, which you can experience from the start to the end of your gameplay.

 

 

♪♪♪♪  Unique Unique Creation Creation ヾ(^∇^) ♪♪♪♪

 

 

I was always wondered that why the Slavery method or enslavement method always meant to redirect to "Black Catsuits". I mean, there's a little complications to that and mostly ppl are gonna wondered about it (well.. people's diffrent). So when there's a chance to tell what inside our mind like this, i was thinking that there's an event when we first started the game, that we're actually just tied by a rope on our hands and cant do nothing. I know this seems like odd, like slavery with Ropes? XD but personally, i think making PC's tied in a rope when she/he became a slave, is more like simple and easy way to do for the masters rather than picking out meshes from a bondage armor. Again, this is only my suggestion, and i know that probably the author is gonna need help with meshes and textures too, so basically if its impossible to do, then im sorry for bringing this idea (_　_|||)...

 

We will mainly use Devious Devices and ZaZ Animation Pack to restrain the player character if it is needed. The slavery part will be common with what already exists but we do plan to make player enslavements more versatile and interesting. That means most times you will have control over your character instead of the game.

 

 

If i were a..

 

If thinking about a whore, and if i were a whore, probably the first thing i will do is not only to offer my body inside a tavern.. but outside as well, as well as "advertising" myself as people walking and i offering a service. Probably like erotic dancing in public (idk if such animation exists , i just've seen the ero-dance animation from APPs for the first time o.o)  and It gives impression that i am a "thing" that trying to make myself "sold"

to others. but well, this is again just an idea, if you dont like it, im sorry :C

 

If I would be a whore, why would I offer my body outside of a warm place where I can get drinks, food and a place to sleep? The Dragonborn should preserve some dignity, imho. So I do not plan to let the Dragonborn sell himself/herself outside of taverns. That doesn't mean, others could order you to do so under some circumstances. And you probably would be able to advertise yourself to lure customers into your workplace.

[xareyvax]

Hello here !

 

I should have missed some things..

(excuse me for my bad english)

so i have few question

I discover this mod (and sexlab too...)  and i wish to know if we can see the different sex skills of the PC ?

I have a little issue, (maybe it was mentionned before on the thread) : when i terminate the quest in the Bannered Mare, Hulda talk to me "honest money for honest job" and "good job, not as goog that i wish but still good" or something like that.

After when i come back, she told exactly the same dialog. so what shoul I do to continue APPS quests ? or is it a bug ? Or maybe i lost the quest and in this case what can i do ?

 

In all case, thanks for the mod !

 

for information:

I have installed other mod (sexlab hormones, estrus, dibella cult, milk mod...)

I play a custom race (demon)

actually, i have the manga body, (with the XPMS skeleton) maybe i will change and come back to CHSBHC body later because there is some mismatch mesh and texture but its a detail

 

 

Thanks

 

 

[Noobshire]

I seem to be having some issues with the quest progressing, particularly starting the tavern work.  Hulda says take a seat for a moment while she gets the gear, I sit then nothing happens and I cannot move or do anything.  I can speak to her before sitting and receive the Tavern Clothes and Boots, but the job doesn't start unless you sit first.  It sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.  I managed to get to the part upstairs where Hulda asks you to take your clothes off, but then nothing progresses.  On one attempt, she looked me over, the two girls appear but then nothing happens.

 

Help please.

 

I was wondering though, if you'd like someone to look over your dialogue scripts (not 'script' scripts, but the dialogue itself), as there were quite a few times I had to re-read them a few times to understand what was meant.  The 'Engrish' is not the best, so I'd be happy to 'correct' any grammar/spelling issues.  I'm relatively new to LL but if you send me a pm, we could work something out if you so wish.  Thanks.

[CGi]

To do myself some justice, as i did the english translation:

This was a quick job, so i knew there would be (massive) errors in it. But from all the posts we already received, regarding the translation, we'll do a different approach for the next release.

Means: i'll do a very rough port to english (which is a pain in the ass as we got detailed dialogue which can't be easily ported to a descriptive language like english w/o loosing at least parts of it's meaning) and then someone who nativly speaks english will create the final translation.

 

Who'll do the translation is not decided yet as by now alot of nice people offered us their help, but as long as we got nothing to show there's no need to make a decission, which gives us more time as the dialogue we got now may go thru more or less heavy changes while we develop the story.

[TheSpider]

Hey. Just wanted to say I'm still lurking and waiting for this Mod. It is one of the most interesting and immersive Mods of the Skyrim commuinity so far and i am glad to see you guys are still working on it. Keep on the good work and take your time

 

And by the way if you guys need any help translating your mod, I would love to help.

[craze]

alright this looks like a promising mod but I can never get past the tavern job. After I complete my shift Hulda evaluates my job performance and asks if the customers were nice then the dialogue disappears and she keeps on evaluating my job performance and deducting my gold.I tried 4 different gameplays but same thing happens.Any help will be appreciated as I dont want to quit on this mod for a stupid bug.

[harry_weener2]

alright this looks like a promising mod but I can never get past the tavern job. After I complete my shift Hulda evaluates my job performance and asks if the customers were nice then the dialogue disappears and she keeps on evaluating my job performance and deducting my gold.I tried 4 different gameplays but same thing happens.Any help will be appreciated as I dont want to quit on this mod for a stupid bug.

 

I have the same problem

[aqqh]

alright this looks like a promising mod but I can never get past the tavern job. After I complete my shift Hulda evaluates my job performance and asks if the customers were nice then the dialogue disappears and she keeps on evaluating my job performance and deducting my gold.I tried 4 different gameplays but same thing happens.Any help will be appreciated as I dont want to quit on this mod for a stupid bug.

Thats becouse of a typo in the quest script.

 

There is two ways to pass further:

1 Do the quest anyway you want as a character that is NOT aware of being the dragonborn

2 If your character is aware that she is dragonborn you have to refuse all sexual requests or accept ONLY 1 (dance requests doesnt count). If you accept more than one that bug will happen.

[jazzy3k]

 

alright this looks like a promising mod but I can never get past the tavern job. After I complete my shift Hulda evaluates my job performance and asks if the customers were nice then the dialogue disappears and she keeps on evaluating my job performance and deducting my gold.I tried 4 different gameplays but same thing happens.Any help will be appreciated as I dont want to quit on this mod for a stupid bug.

Thats becouse of a typo in the quest script.

 

There is two ways to pass further:

1 Do the quest anyway you want as a character that is NOT aware of being the dragonborn

2 If your character is aware that she is dragonborn you have to refuse all sexual requests or accept ONLY 1 (dance requests doesnt count). If you accept more than one that bug will happen.

 

I had this problem - being a slooty Dragonborn and getting stuck in the performance evaluation loop - but got around it with the Creation Kit. In case anyone might benefit from it - this is what I did...

1. Stop talking to Hulda and leave the Bannered Mare, make a save just outside
2. Quit the game and open APPS with the Creation Kit
3. Navigate to Character -> Quest -> APPS -> APPS_SQ01 and double click on it to open the quest
4. Navigate to the Player Dialogue tab -> APPS_SQ01_QuitTavernJob_ReportBranch -> APPS_SQ01_Report_SexOrdersAccepted
5. Double click on the Info text starting with "The dragonborn ..."
6. The line with Function Info "Quest: 'APPS_Controller', ::SexOrdersAccepted_var' says "== 1.00"  ... change it to "> 0.00"
7. Load up your game and talk to Hulda, she will take your money again but the dialog should progess this time

In my specific case, I also deleted the line checking if one of the Main Quests was completed (so that it knows you are Dragonborn, I assume) since my specific mod setup does some things to the main quest that might not line up with what mods like this are expecting. I also haven't played much since making that change so I can't say for sure if this will break it further down the road or not, so if you follow these steps I take no responsibility etc.

[Heromaster]

Thanks for your time to explain it and post the solution. You are assuming right, the check for the main quest determinates if your character does know about being the Dragonborn. I'm curious what mods do you use that changes the Main Questline?

[craze]

 

alright this looks like a promising mod but I can never get past the tavern job. After I complete my shift Hulda evaluates my job performance and asks if the customers were nice then the dialogue disappears and she keeps on evaluating my job performance and deducting my gold.I tried 4 different gameplays but same thing happens.Any help will be appreciated as I dont want to quit on this mod for a stupid bug.

Thats becouse of a typo in the quest script.

 

There is two ways to pass further:

1 Do the quest anyway you want as a character that is NOT aware of being the dragonborn

2 If your character is aware that she is dragonborn you have to refuse all sexual requests or accept ONLY 1 (dance requests doesnt count). If you accept more than one that bug will happen.

 

Well thanks a lot  that was really helpful although lol now I am stuck with yet a another bug.After Hulda takes me upstairs she asks me to undress and then afterwards stares at my naked body forever and I am also frozen at that point .I guess its too early to say as the mod is at an early stage hopefully the next update will resolve all these bugs and make the mod more playable.Thanks again for the quick response  .

[aqqh]

Thats almost the end of this mod (as current version is more like a demo than anything close to final version). There is one more scene after that.

When you are with Hulda upstairs two new npcs should enter the inn and walk upstairs to join the fun. Yet it sometimes bug and they stay downstairs.

Walk down and check if there are two chicks in unusual clothing that normally aren't there.

 

Had this problem once - guess simple load and try again was enough to fix this. But as i said its just one short scene after that and thats it for now.

 

 

Hero do you think its possible that your new version would work on different scripts than current one so characters that completed the tavern work quest on old version would be able to give new version a try?