OSimpleDefeat - OStim Addon for Acheron

[FxD2]

5 hours ago, COCI_alle said:

比如修改自动模式选项（就算选择自动模式也不会在被击败后自动开始）

这个我知道，在“Important notes”已经说过“OStim auto mode is still disabled as of 2.0.0”，（2.0.0 还没有自动模式）。现在不要用自动模式，未来版本会有自动模式。

[COCI_alle]

6 minutes ago, FxD2 said:

这个我知道，在“重要说明”中已经说过“从 2.0.0 开始，OStim 自动模式仍然被禁用”，（2.0.0 还没有自动模式）。现在不要用自动模式，未来版本会有自动模式。

它会自动开始但是启动的很慢，目前只试了强盗。对选项的解释有点模糊........ 我用机翻很烂。

[COCI_alle]

14 minutes ago, COCI_alle said:

它会自动开始但是启动的很慢，目前只试了强盗。对选项的解释有点模糊........我用机翻很烂。

主动投降后无法开始 ，左上角提示结束后的提示。不知道能看到文件不.

[COCI_alle]

35 minutes ago, COCI_alle said:

主动投降后无法开始 ，左上角提示结束后的提示。不知道能看到文件不.

 

已开启模组.txt

[FxD2]

1 hour ago, COCI_alle said:

它会自动开始但是启动的很慢，目前只试了强盗。对选项的解释有点模糊........ 我用机翻很烂。

等等中文翻译更新啊，，，

 

49 minutes ago, COCI_alle said:

主动投降后无法开始

试试新本版（2.0.1），有可能修好了。

 

6 hours ago, COCI_alle said:

被重复击败的次数设定2次就永远是两次吗？

如果“Rob chance"是0%。

 

14 minutes ago, COCI_alle said:

 

已开启模组.txt 10.29 kB · 1 download

你能给我个“Papyrus.0.log“吗？

[COCI_alle]

1 hour ago, FxD2 said:

中文 等等翻译更新啊，，，

 

尝试一下新本版（2.0.1），有可能修改好了。

 

如果“抢夺几率”是0%。

 

你给我一个“Papyrus.0.log”吗？

恐怕不行，明天出门去了最近不会玩了。连续重复被击倒三次并且都没触发ostim后会倒地无法起来.（比如只开男性击倒，不开被女性击倒，然后被女强盗 快速连续击败几次就会卡在倒地动画了。）

[SquatsAreLife]

Hi FxD2,

 

just wanted to say that I'm looking forward to trying out your mod. I think your outcome scenarios are perfect already. Loss of gold/equipment, assault and Simple Slavery Plus.

I'm sure more aggressive scenes for Ostim Standalone will come and they will fix the auto play problem.

 

The biggest thing for me, would be reliability in execution of defeat scenarios, not many features. Things like a sabre cate is not selling you to SSPlus, nor do giants. Your description says that only human defeat is covered, which is great. Defeat by animals should result in death. What else could there be, besides being badly injured and left for dead?

 

Maybe a future expansion could be defeat by non-human/non-animal actors, like giants, falmer, Dwemer machines. Of course no sexual assault, as Ostim doesn't cover that. Maybe one scenario could be the defeated player is moved to a new location (Inn, wilderness), badly injured, caught disease coupled with loss of equipment.

What about vampires? There could be some interesting defeat scenarios. Being turned, made to serve a cattle etc.

 

So far I've not found a defeat mod that I really liked. I hope yours changes that 😊.

 

[FxD2]

On 5/12/2024 at 3:45 PM, COCI_alle said:

恐怕不行，明天出门去了最近不会玩了。连续重复被击倒三次并且都没触发ostim后会倒地无法起来.（比如只开男性击倒，不开被女性击倒，然后被女强盗 快速连续击败几次就会卡在倒地动画了。）

啊，给我个“Papyrus.0.log”看看。我考完我的考试以后就好好看这个问题。

 

On 5/12/2024 at 3:57 PM, SquatsAreLife said:

Hi FxD2,

 

just wanted to say that I'm looking forward to trying out your mod. I think your outcome scenarios are perfect already. Loss of gold/equipment, assault and Simple Slavery Plus.

I'm sure more aggressive scenes for Ostim Standalone will come and they will fix the auto play problem.

 

The biggest thing for me, would be reliability in execution of defeat scenarios, not many features. Things like a sabre cate is not selling you to SSPlus, nor do giants. Your description says that only human defeat is covered, which is great. Defeat by animals should result in death. What else could there be, besides being badly injured and left for dead?

 

Maybe a future expansion could be defeat by non-human/non-animal actors, like giants, falmer, Dwemer machines. Of course no sexual assault, as Ostim doesn't cover that. Maybe one scenario could be the defeated player is moved to a new location (Inn, wilderness), badly injured, caught disease coupled with loss of equipment.

What about vampires? There could be some interesting defeat scenarios. Being turned, made to serve a cattle etc.

 

So far I've not found a defeat mod that I really liked. I hope yours changes that 😊.

 

This mod runs off Acheron, which is the actual defeat mod that calculates when/ if you are defeated, and what to do. Acheron processes your defeat, and decides the outcome based on what you were defeated by. This mod is one of the outcomes for Acheron to play when you are defeated by human enemies. This mod is never ran when you are defeated by anything else, and as such the events/ outcomes in my mod will only play when Acheron runs it, i.e. when you are defeated by humans. There are other addons for Acheron that are available to cover other defeats with their own outcome events, but my mod only covers defeat to human enemies.

 

Waking up in a different location, whether from rescue or just blacking out and waking, are definitely good ideas I could add as release events to this mod though.

[HDMFanatic]

I'd like to asked about the new soft requirement in Simple Slavery Plus Plus: by the looks of it SS++ requires the Zaz Animation Pack which I don't believe works with OStim Standalone unless there's some type of conversion I'm not aware of. I'm assuming if you don't have it then you just won't get the Slave Auction Event?

[FxD2]

44 minutes ago, HDMFanatic said:

I'd like to asked about the new soft requirement in Simple Slavery Plus Plus: by the looks of it SS++ requires the Zaz Animation Pack which I don't believe works with OStim Standalone unless there's some type of conversion I'm not aware of. I'm assuming if you don't have it then you just won't get the Slave Auction Event?

Zaz Animation Pack 8+ works with SS++, without OStim or SexLab, and the Auction scene works fine (for me at least). There are no release events from SS++ which work with OStim only, but some people use both systems, so the link is here for now.

[asdfmovie666]

Hey I would guess it is not Compatible with Baka Factorys Babo Dialouge?

[FxD2]

3 hours ago, asdfmovie666 said:

Hey I would guess it is not Compatible with Baka Factorys Babo Dialouge?

There's no reason it wouldn't be. You can use this with Babo Dialogue, the two mods won't interact and this mod only creates scenes if OStim is installed, it does not use SexLab (I could add it to be honest).

[FxD2]

On 5/18/2024 at 4:28 PM, FxD2 said:

There are no release events from SS++ which work with OStim only, but some people use both systems, so the link is here for now.

Well, there is one now. I have just uploaded an OStim conversion for Dark Arena. This means that you can be defeated by this mod, sent to an auction scene by SS++, and end up working as a slave in the Dark Arena, rather than being dumped outside of Riften.

[jariabila]

Is there any future plans to add devious devices NG implementation? 

[FxD2]

2 hours ago, jariabila said:

Is there any future plans to add devious devices NG implementation? 

Is this for tying up the defeated enemy? I have plans to add that as a feature, but not through DDNG. DDNG requires the original DD, which is way too tied in to SexLab, as well as many other in game functions, for me to try to rip out.

[jariabila]

6 hours ago, FxD2 said:

Is this for tying up the defeated enemy? I have plans to add that as a feature, but not through DDNG. DDNG requires the original DD, which is way too tied in to SexLab, as well as many other in game functions, for me to try to rip out.

 

No, for defeated player consequences, like for enslavement etc. Im not huge fan of it but it adds nice mini game. But you are right, its too tied to Sexlab. Im using both sexlab and ostim so didnt realized. 

[FxD2]

2 hours ago, jariabila said:

 

No, for defeated player consequences, like for enslavement etc. Im not huge fan of it but it adds nice mini game. But you are right, its too tied to Sexlab. Im using both sexlab and ostim so didnt realized. 

Oh hahaha my bad, I thought this was my OSimpleAssault thread. Yeah, for an OStim-only load order DD is difficult to implement. I'm also not a fan of fully converting a playthrough to a full slave experience either, but I'll see what I can do for a little minigame.

[loobloo]

Hi

I get robbed, but no scene, even if I have set the chance at 100%. I get the message "Ostim scene failed to start!". I have remove the restriction on gender juste to be sure, but it doesnt change anything. Not sure what is causing the problem. Thanks!

[FxD2]

4 hours ago, loobloo said:

Hi

I get robbed, but no scene, even if I have set the chance at 100%. I get the message "Ostim scene failed to start!". I have remove the restriction on gender juste to be sure, but it doesnt change anything. Not sure what is causing the problem. Thanks!

Gonna need more info than that

Have you installed all the required mods? What version of Skyrim are you on? Does OStim work if you activate it through a different mod? Can you send a papyrus.0.log?

[erza20]

Thank you for the mod and update. I had a specific question that you might be able to answer. On the previous 1.0 version, I was using it with Children of Lilith to basically have certain NPCs drain the player of health. After updating, the drain feature won't work - I was wondering if you might have any idea on what may have changed between versions to cause it to no longer work? 

[zergface]

Out of curiosity only the Baka conversion currently has the assault animations? Do they play automatically when you get assault or you have to manually select the animations to play?

[loobloo]

17 hours ago, FxD2 said:

Gonna need more info than that

Have you installed all the required mods? What version of Skyrim are you on? Does OStim work if you activate it through a different mod? Can you send a papyrus.0.log?

Sure, heres the link to my papyrus log https://pastebin.com/n2wqd8s5

 

I'm on version 1.6.1130.0. I use Simple Prostitution and OMerchant and Ostim works through both of them. All the Required mods are installed.

 

Thank you for your help, i appreciate it.

[FxD2]

18 hours ago, erza20 said:

Thank you for the mod and update. I had a specific question that you might be able to answer. On the previous 1.0 version, I was using it with Children of Lilith to basically have certain NPCs drain the player of health. After updating, the drain feature won't work - I was wondering if you might have any idea on what may have changed between versions to cause it to no longer work? 

I think I know what it may be. I'll upload a new version for you to test later today.

 

11 hours ago, zergface said:

Out of curiosity only the Baka conversion currently has the assault animations? Do they play automatically when you get assault or you have to manually select the animations to play?

Not yet. My current test function does, but it requires a slightly altered version of the Baka conversion. There's also now a conversion of FunnyBizness, which works as is, except for 3P+ scenes, which I haven't gotten working yet. I'm going to release the test version for only 2P later today.

 

3 hours ago, loobloo said:

Sure, heres the link to my papyrus log https://pastebin.com/n2wqd8s5

 

I'm on version 1.6.1130.0. I use Simple Prostitution and OMerchant and Ostim works through both of them. All the Required mods are installed.

 

Thank you for your help, i appreciate it.

From what I can see, it seems none of the actors that had defeated you were deemed capable of assaulting you. Did you make sure to enable one of "Enable Male assaulters" or "Enable Female assaulters" in the MCM? Did you change the morality setting? I think whatever actors defeated you were filtered out and thus unable to assault you.

 

 

Edit: Update released now. Let me know if Children of Lilith functions as desired. A starting animation can be set - must be enabled in the MCM. This requires FunnyBizness animations. A random animation should be chosen and the scene should start there. This is still very much a beta test, not recommended for general gameplay. Nothing else was changed, so should be OK. Probably doesn't require a new game, but do try on a new save before reporting issues.

Edited May 28, 2024 by FxD2
Update released

[erza20]

6 hours ago, FxD2 said:

I think I know what it may be. I'll upload a new version for you to test later today.

 

Not yet. My current test function does, but it requires a slightly altered version of the Baka conversion. There's also now a conversion of FunnyBizness, which works as is, except for 3P+ scenes, which I haven't gotten working yet. I'm going to release the test version for only 2P later today.

 

From what I can see, it seems none of the actors that had defeated you were deemed capable of assaulting you. Did you make sure to enable one of "Enable Male assaulters" or "Enable Female assaulters" in the MCM? Did you change the morality setting? I think whatever actors defeated you were filtered out and thus unable to assault you.

 

 

Edit: Update released now. Let me know if Children of Lilith functions as desired. A starting animation can be set - must be enabled in the MCM. This requires FunnyBizness animations. A random animation should be chosen and the scene should start there. This is still very much a beta test, not recommended for general gameplay. Nothing else was changed, so should be OK. Probably doesn't require a new game, but do try on a new save before reporting issues.

 

Thanks for looking into to it and for the update! Unfortunately, I tested 2.10 and the same issue is there for CoL. I also have a problem where sometimes the scene is repeated even after ending it (like scene will end and then get pulled into it again); or sometimes the animation of defeat plays and message of gold stolen just repeats and nothing happens. I am not using any other acheron addons and it was on a new game (clean save). 

[FxD2]

22 hours ago, erza20 said:

 

Thanks for looking into to it and for the update! Unfortunately, I tested 2.10 and the same issue is there for CoL. I also have a problem where sometimes the scene is repeated even after ending it (like scene will end and then get pulled into it again); or sometimes the animation of defeat plays and message of gold stolen just repeats and nothing happens. I am not using any other acheron addons and it was on a new game (clean save). 

How does CoL interact with this mod? I'm not entirely sure how this mod would interact then. I thought it was probably the "OnOStimEnd" mod event, which I added back in in the update, but it seems not. Could you provide more details on how the two mods interacted. The events repeating shouldn't be happening at the same time too, not entirely sure why that is occuring. If v2.0.1 worked better for you, maybe revert for the time being, perhaps I overlooked something in the update.