PAF Fixes and Addons

[New Horizons]

The pressure animations arent triggering for me and NPCs won't look for toilets even if its right in front of them.

[Dg75]

On 9/10/2024 at 3:11 PM, New Horizons said:

The pressure animations arent triggering for me and NPCs won't look for toilets even if its right in front of them.

Sorry to hear you are having problems. 

Are the Player and NPC paffing states updating as usual?  and what state is the npc in question in e.g. they need state 3 or higher in order to go.

Also what is happening when they fail to path to toilet, are you in location and getting constant needs toilet nagging ? not doing anything at all

or instead of using toilet are they just crapping on floor ? This info will help track whats going on in your script.

Is it a Pee and fart or a dooty outhouse the npc not finding, and if a dooty mod outhouse are you using the Dooty patch in PFA downloads ?

 

Their are a couple things that can make the npc fail to path to toilet.

1. They try to path to toilet but fail.. this do to probably no nav mesh or another mod is over powering their Pathing ai package

    if this: normally you can tell, because they may act strange. e.g. stand in one spot for good while and wont follow as their ai package 

    trys to figure out wtf its doing. Or they may just flip about and do sandboxing at another furniture, and probably crap all over that instead.

    I found a spot in Markarth thats not nav meshed.. Thin pass through between buildings that lead to stairs and the forge. I placed 

    outhouse near it and npc would not path to it at all.

2.  Stuck vars. This shouldn't happen, but PFA uses a specific indicator that claims that toilet for that npc actor only, so if another NPC trys 

    looking for a toilet it wont use that one as its already claimed. Once that first npc is done that indicator gets cleared. Or if failed to get sit state it gets cleared.

    if you think this may be a culprit try the Debug option in PFA, the one that resets pfa's vars. Be sure to save the game first.

   or go through a loading door may also do the trick.

    But if were the case, I doubt their paffing states would update and all your npc's would be paffing limbo... So I doubt its this unless nothing 

    seems to be working on them and they cant even go at all.

3.  Needs a paffing state of 3 in order to go paf, then any subsequent npc checks would only need a state of 2.  this per instance of a read..

    Make sure they are not wearing a paf diaper. lol.  They wont use toilet if they are wearing a portable one.

    also make sure player is at least 50 + units away from toilet(not standing right by it) as I added a negation

    so as they don't sit in player's lap when taking a big o paf.  They will think player is using it if player is too close to it.

4. Something is very wrong! Because I cant really think of anything else.

 

Cant really help with pressure anims not working for you, except just make sure they are turned on in Pee and farts mcm. They can be a hit n miss at times.

 if you are having overall animation problems IDK maybe fnis/nemisis behavior files didn't get updated.. 

 

Edited September 12, 2024 by Dg75

[New Horizons]

I managed to fix it by installing dooty mod,i also didn't know you cant be too close to the toilet, this could be it aswell.  However animations still not working.

[darkblackbad]

i changed my main body to UBE long time ago but actually never actually played for few months.
just realized when i played recently and i got [Error] Cant parse Json file at 'data/textures/character/slavetats/basic,blank.dds,dirt,drool,and paf'

i read somewhere in this forum, they said it because change in body meshes so ig its because i use UBE.
if i want to fix it, what should i do?
i mean even if the texture is wrong, it should be not error but wrong textures placement etc right?

edit :
found slavetats 1.3.9 ube player patch in ube discord that fixed this by adding specific texture folder for ube race(player only).
just need to get correct texture for UBE later but theres no more '[Error] Can't parse json file' problem.

Edited September 13, 2024 by darkblackbad

[Dg75]

For any of you DD users out their, I have been working on a DD implementation scheme that I plan to include in the next update.

Optional via mcm. This would just force equip Chasity and or anal plugs,

if(when) caught crapping(non toilet) or walking about shitty/pissy in public. Will be given a warning one time 

per hold, then if caught again tracks an Offence level  up to 3 levels, and apply punishment accordingly.

Durations of forced equipped = the Offence lvl in days.  Offense lvl resets upon Device removal if completed. 

e.g. if Level 1 offence, you have to wear the device one full day, then any Blacksmith or the Yarl's carl can remove.

If Level 1 offense and caught again you get level 2 .. and time starts over and would need 2 days....

Level 1 offense = Chasity only.  Level 2 offense = Locking anal plug only - the kind that show!

Level 3 Offense = chasity + (soul/shock/pumps/sets plugs)

Npc's  that tattle might cause offence increase. If Guard catches you in the act IDK yet.. maybe jump straight lvl 3 offence.  Still working it out.

 

Edited September 14, 2024 by Dg75

[Black714]

5 hours ago, Dg75 said:

For any of you DD users out their, I have been working on a DD implementation scheme that I plan to include in the next update.

Optional via mcm. This would just force equip Chasity and or anal plugs,

if(when) caught crapping(non toilet) or walking about shitty/pissy in public. Will be given a warning one time 

per hold, then if caught again tracks an Offence level  up to 3 levels, and apply punishment accordingly.

Durations of forced equipped = the Offence lvl in days.  Offense lvl resets upon Device removal if completed. 

e.g. if Level 1 offence, you have to wear the device one full day, then any Blacksmith or the Yarl's carl can remove.

If Level 1 offense and caught again you get level 2 .. and time starts over and would need 2 days....

Level 1 offense = Chasity only.  Level 2 offense = Locking anal plug only - the kind that show!

Level 3 Offense = chasity + (soul/shock/pumps/sets plugs)

Npc's  that tattle might cause offence increase. If Guard catches you in the act IDK yet.. maybe jump straight lvl 3 offence.  Still working it out.

 

Thankyou to make DD Implementation for next future. is that possible to trigger leaking accident because vibrating? base on the fullness or blender and vibrating level?

[Dg75]

5 hours ago, Black714 said:

Thankyou to make DD Implementation for next future. is that possible to trigger leaking accident because vibrating? base on the fullness or blender and vibrating level?

Yeah should be.  I'll add it in if at all possible.

[Dg75]

On 9/15/2024 at 12:42 AM, Black714 said:

Thankyou to make DD Implementation for next future. is that possible to trigger leaking accident because vibrating? base on the fullness or blender and vibrating level?

Okay so, DD scripts pushes mod events when edged, and when edged and orgasms. 

Just a matter of registering Paf script to receive one of those mod events, and player/follower has a peestate they will leak..

So which event to register for ?  The one that edges will tick every time a DD mod edges the actor, or Just when actor orgasms from being edged ?

[Black714]

11 hours ago, Dg75 said:

Okay so, DD scripts pushes mod events when edged, and when edged and orgasms. 

Just a matter of registering Paf script to receive one of those mod events, and player/follower has a peestate they will leak..

So which event to register for ?  The one that edges will tick every time a DD mod edges the actor, or Just when actor orgasms from being edged ?

Orgasm likely “Uncontrollable”. So it’s can be leak. So any sex scene animation like orgasms is best fit in my opinion. 

I also use “Toy Framework” for “Spontaneous Orgasm Feature”. Basically it’s call “ random custom Solo Masturbation Animation”

so yes, orgasm animation seems more reliable. 

 

 

Edited September 19, 2024 by Black714

[Black714]

11 hours ago, Dg75 said:

Okay so, DD scripts pushes mod events when edged, and when edged and orgasms. 

Just a matter of registering Paf script to receive one of those mod events, and player/follower has a peestate they will leak..

So which event to register for ?  The one that edges will tick every time a DD mod edges the actor, or Just when actor orgasms from being edged ?

Is that also vibrating even there? If complex scene can make, vibrating power has important role too, not all DD plug has vibration feature ^^.
Solo masturbation / Sex animation maybe too static.

Quote

if She can leak depends on how much DD vibration event and bladder level. The Equation it should be:

(Vibrating Event x Bladder Level) / 9 X 100 =

Vibrating level ratio is 1 to 5 (very weak to very strong)
Bladder level ratio is 0 to 4 (empty to full)

It should be create percentage how much leaking can be occur. 💀

Edited September 19, 2024 by Black714

[Dg75]

14 hours ago, Black714 said:

Is that also vibrating even there? If complex scene can make, vibrating power has important role too, not all DD plug has vibration feature ^^.
Solo masturbation / Sex animation maybe too static.

It should be create percentage how much leaking can be occur. 💀

well just browsing through DD's Libs, that script has functions that Edge the actor, and when that happens 

it sends out mod event for any other mod that cares to listen for it. It also sends a separate mod event within

the same function but only when the edge actually causes an Orgasms. 

 

Yes the edging is from vibrating type plugs .. I think. Maybe the Shock one to.. Not sure on that.

 

I was leaning on the Orgasms event, this event only happens from orgasms from getting edged, not from normal Orgasms one may receive from sex..

 

I am not usual DD user, but from my primitive experience the player gets edged and eventually may lead up to an orgasm,

because the edge function increases Arousal and when high enough has a random chance to orgasm.

 

But to use a formula with number of times edged vs Bladder state, I would need the number of times edged, and as far as I can tell DD's mod event 

does not sent that data to the event(mod that listens for it). I'll check again to make sure though, but if I'm correct PFA wouldn't know what 

level or state or number of times player got edged. Would probably just have to configure Arousal state vs Bladder when Edged event happens. 

 

Or just use the Orgasam Edge event, If player gets Orgasam when edging happens then it must have been a powerful edge.. If bladder > x, then leak

But i'll double check on those mod events and the info that they send out.

 

[Dg75]

16 minutes ago, Dg75 said:

well just browsing through DD's Libs, that script has functions that Edge the actor, and when that happens 

it sends out mod event for any other mod that cares to listen for it. It also sends a separate mod event within

the same function but only when the edge actually causes an Orgasms. 

 

Yes the edging is from vibrating type plugs .. I think. Maybe the Shock one to.. Not sure on that.

 

I was leaning on the Orgasms event, this event only happens from orgasms from getting edged, not from normal Orgasms one may receive from sex..

 

I am not usual DD user, but from my primitive experience the player gets edged and eventually may lead up to an orgasm,

because the edge function increases Arousal and when high enough has a random chance to orgasm.

 

But to use a formula with number of times edged vs Bladder state, I would need the number of times edged, and as far as I can tell DD's mod event 

does not sent that data to the event(mod that listens for it). I'll check again to make sure though, but if I'm correct PFA wouldn't know what 

level or state or number of times player got edged. Would probably just have to configure Arousal state vs Bladder when Edged event happens. 

 

Or just use the Orgasam Edge event, If player gets Orgasam when edging happens then it must have been a powerful edge.. If bladder > x, then leak

But i'll double check on those mod events and the info that they send out.

 

Yup just checked again.  Mod event does NOT send out power level of vibrating effect or edgeing state or whatever.. 

 

These are the mod events PFA can register to receive from DD, and the info sent along with them.

 

1.  SendInflationEvent ; this obviously when from pump up's.  LOL maybe I make the player constipated if an anal pump. 

    Info sent here: 

      Where it came from - Libs, weather it was a vagina or anal plug, weather it was inflated, Plug state(I guess the inflation state)

 

2. SendEdgeEvent ; this is from any time the player/npc gets vibrated or edged. - Could happen a lot!

   Info sent: Where it came from - Libs, and the Actor ref that just got edged. Thats it.

 

3. SendOrgasmEvent ; this same as above #2, but only when it caused Orgasm.  Maybe somewhat rare.

   Info sent ; same as above # 2

 

[Luxian]

On 9/6/2024 at 8:55 PM, Dg75 said:

Pee and fart uses sexlab's gender for that.  So if you have a futa then you'll need to go into Sexlab's mcm and set your character to male

then pee and fart will have you piss just like the rest of the fellas. This does not actually change players gender, just what sexlab and pee and fart go on.

SLEN mod provides a hotkey you can assign for this to easily swap genders back n forth.

 

In another mod I'm currently working on, it dynamically do that for you, and swap back when done animating.. It is possible. Maybe I add it to PFA one day. 

 

sadly this doesnt work with the trx futa tng, shes hard and theres a piss puddle but theres no spraying piss lol

 

 

[Dg75]

1 hour ago, Luxian said:

 

sadly this doesnt work with the trx futa tng, shes hard and theres a piss puddle but theres no spraying piss lol

 

 

It looks to be using the male animation because the puddle is way out their and not between the legs. 

The no pee stream bug happens to me sometimes. I believe its something in the niff, or a lighting issue or the game glitching.

I really dont enough about that kind of stuff, we need a expert moddler to examine it. One could probably tell you exactly why.

 

Wait a minut. shit! I just had a thought... I think the pee stream is built as armor object, as in it may take a equip slot. 

It shouldn't be conflicting with your futa as it should take slot 52, you may want to check on that. 

I'll check Pafs esp and see wat slot male pee stream takes if any. . . .  Okay all male\female pee streams do take a slot 61 - fx01

so maybe make sure you got nothing equipped their that may prevent something else replacing it.

if some kind of kink and sexlab animation, make sure sexlabs not unequipping slot 61 ... 

 

 

Edited September 20, 2024 by Dg75

[Dg75]

On 9/19/2024 at 3:28 AM, Black714 said:

Is that also vibrating even there? If complex scene can make, vibrating power has important role too, not all DD plug has vibration feature ^^.
Solo masturbation / Sex animation maybe too static.

It should be create percentage how much leaking can be occur. 💀

Ok so I found other mod events I could use that send out when vibration happens, and sends a vibration strength

this strength can be variable, depends on a mod pushing the vibrations. Its calculated a VibStrength x a multiplier of .3 anal or .7 vaginal type plugs.

So VibStrenght can be (1 through 5  x either .3 or .7)  and that's what passed to the event.

Example: if a vaginal plug = .7 mult, and that DD mod pushed a vibration strength of 3, then VibStrenght = (.7 x 3) which is 2.1

So 2.1 is sent through to the event PFA would get, then PFA can maybe do something like: 

If VibStrenght times PeeState > 2 .. then leek, So with a 2.1 vibStrenght Player would need a peestate of at least 2 in order to leek.

Higher passed vibrations like 5 would always leek unless was an anal type plug, then would probably need a higher peeState 

This event would happen everytime player/npc gets vibrated, but when the vibs are done or have stopped. Means if player leaks it would be after.

 

So its this or the Orgasam event posted above.. which can only happen if Random chance Player orgasam through Vibrations.

Edited September 22, 2024 by Dg75

[Black714]

22 hours ago, Dg75 said:

Ok so I found other mod events I could use that send out when vibration happens, and sends a vibration strength

this strength can be variable, depends on a mod pushing the vibrations. Its calculated a VibStrength x a multiplier of .3 anal or .7 vaginal type plugs.

So VibStrenght can be (1 through 5  x either .3 or .7)  and that's what passed to the event.

Example: if a vaginal plug = .7 mult, and that DD mod pushed a vibration strength of 3, then VibStrenght = (.7 x 3) which is 2.1

So 2.1 is sent through to the event PFA would get, then PFA can maybe do something like: 

If VibStrenght times PeeState > 2 .. then leek, So with a 2.1 vibStrenght Player would need a peestate of at least 2 in order to leek.

Higher passed vibrations like 5 would always leek unless was an anal type plug, then would probably need a higher peeState 

This event would happen everytime player/npc gets vibrated, but when the vibs are done or have stopped. Means if player leaks it would be after.

 

So its this or the Orgasam event posted above.. which can only happen if Random chance Player orgasam through Vibrations.

PAF will be awesome implemented with DD tbh.
Mostly I use Chastity and Plug, since Heavy Bondage is Annoying during adventuring. 
 

I remember ever made Punishment event base on player act via vibrating plug. using "Condition Function". as I know there is "zadActivateVibratorSpell" Script that can measure vibrating strength. but myself not sure is that connected with vibration random event or not.
 

Edited September 23, 2024 by Black714

[Dg75]

15 hours ago, Black714 said:

PAF will be awesome implemented with DD tbh.
Mostly I use Chastity and Plug, since Heavy Bondage is Annoying during adventuring. 
 

I remember ever made Punishment event base on player act via vibrating plug. using "Condition Function". as I know there is "zadActivateVibratorSpell" Script that can measure vibrating strength. but myself not sure is that connected with vibration random event or not.
 

oh I'm just trying to use these mod events that already come pre packed with DD mod.

But they aint worth shit for giving PFA what I looking for. 

 

I ended up using 3 mod events, it should work something like this:

 

anal pumps:

if its an inflatable(anal only, or a set), If it pumps up over state 3, then every time it deflates it can increase poopState.

if constipated is enabled, then upon removing the inflatable may cause constipation.

 

Vibrators: includes piercings and soulgem plugs or whatever else vibs the player..

   a Teas only vibe gets sent when dd mod pushers edge, or stop just short of Orgasam

   if peeState less than 4, then it gets increased. or if its 4 when the edging happens piss thyself 

 

  a Vibration Orgasam event Might(random chance) hit when the above dont.

 if any peeState at all. then piss thyself

 

Well I'm pretty much done with this. Just wrapping up some dialogue, then just got test it out.

All in all PFA's DD is rather simple. It works off in location tracking when paffing non toilet or sexing in public and seen 

Made 3 levels of offenses, lvl 1 is Chasity only.  Lvl 2 locking anal plugs only. lvl 3 vibey plugs(can be sets) + Chasity

Forced worn equal to lvl offense, then got to take to any Blacksmith for removal.  Its set up with voiced quest dialogue and stages..

 

Oh and if somehow you remove your punishment early. PFA listens for that too, and may put you right back into lvl 3 offense

But only if you are in the hold that first administered that punishment. 

 

[VergilDMX]

Would it be possible to add the feature of making other NPC's pee and poo in a bottle as well? Not only the PC

[Dg75]

On 9/25/2024 at 4:05 AM, Revanx91 said:

Would it be possible to add the feature of making other NPC's pee and poo in a bottle as well? Not only the PC

possible, but not a good idea!

 

that idle sequence is too fickle in its use of animation object - "the bottle" 

Even just the player, if another vanilla idle ticks like jumping or maybe sneaking it disrupts it causing stuck bottle

imagine if any mods ai packages ticking while an npc is crapping in a bottle. lol maybe theyd be walkin about with battle stuck up their ass

Edited September 27, 2024 by Dg75

[Guest]

On 9/7/2024 at 3:55 AM, Dg75 said:

Pee and fart uses sexlab's gender for that.  So if you have a futa then you'll need to go into Sexlab's mcm and set your character to male

then pee and fart will have you piss just like the rest of the fellas. This does not actually change players gender, just what sexlab and pee and fart go on.

SLEN mod provides a hotkey you can assign for this to easily swap genders back n forth.

 

In another mod I'm currently working on, it dynamically do that for you, and swap back when done animating.. It is possible. Maybe I add it to PFA one day. 

i was busy to test it and replay

 

So i tried to changing the gender in SL and also in SLNE will still the same problem not work for me.

is it from load order my mods ?

 

Edit:

My character is using male animation.

So I tried to rename .nif fore males copying it and make it F and it work but i don't want that i want female also. That make all females in game pee like mans

And i have another problem my sos is limp in animation i'm using trx-erf and dw sos 

Edited October 9, 2024 by moew_69

[Dg75]

11 hours ago, moew_69 said:

i was busy to test it and replay

 

So i tried to changing the gender in SL and also in SLNE will still the same problem not work for me.

is it from load order my mods ?

 

Edit:

My character is using male animation.

So I tried to rename .nif fore males copying it and make it F and it work but i don't want that i want female also. That make all females in game pee like mans

And i have another problem my sos is limp in animation i'm using trx-erf and dw sos 

I don't know. It maybe load order or mods issue. 

I just know it works fine for me to swap gender for sexlab. Pee and fart looks at whatever gender sexlab has and runs its gender animations from that.

PFA's new update- not released yet, still testing- has a new feature that if Futa tracking enabled, then will get a random chance to dynamically auto swap

the sexlab gender for peeing only, and swap back when done, so sometimes a male animation or sometimes not.

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Dg75 said:

I don't know. It maybe load order or mods issue. 

I just know it works fine for me to swap gender for sexlab. Pee and fart looks at whatever gender sexlab has and runs its gender animations from that.

PFA's new update- not released yet, still testing- has a new feature that if Futa tracking enabled, then will get a random chance to dynamically auto swap

the sexlab gender for peeing only, and swap back when done, so sometimes a male animation or sometimes not.

Ok i will check my mods if any mod specifies gender or change my load order and see and mod that need to be overwritten i will chare my mod and plugging if i don't see any mod detect gender to help me what to do.

 

Or just waiting for the update because i'm very busy on my project 

[Dg75]

Almost done with this update. Well PFA's bit is done. I have been re working PAF_FollowerKIC_v2.0.0,  

PFA's Update features a Devious Devise game - Quest driven. Ive fancied to calling it Devious Applied.. as now Pee and fart can Apply DD.

this meant as an optional replacer for the Diaper system and used as punishment for crapping in public. Tweeked a few other things as well.

 

The PAF_FollowerKIC_v2.0.0 will replace the PAF_FollowerKIC patch in the downloads. fixes dressing/undressing issues and followers pathing 

to the bath. added a little commentary .

 

Im pretty much done just needs finalized. I should have uploaded sometime tomorrow.

Edited October 20, 2024 by Dg75

[datpowerranger]

Is there a way to add conditions for DAR or OAR? For example at high pressure a character's idle might wiggle around and at bursting pressure the character would be holding themselves. If there was a way to add a faction rank similar to how sexlab aroused does their arousal meter I might be able to figure it out, but since I have no idea what I'm doing with modding, I'm hoping someone might know how.

[Dg75]

17 hours ago, datpowerranger said:

Is there a way to add conditions for DAR or OAR? For example at high pressure a character's idle might wiggle around and at bursting pressure the character would be holding themselves. If there was a way to add a faction rank similar to how sexlab aroused does their arousal meter I might be able to figure it out, but since I have no idea what I'm doing with modding, I'm hoping someone might know how.

Pee and fart is not set up for animation replacer's like Oar and DAR, it uses Fnis or Nemisis .  I don't know if it can be converted.