PAF Fixes and Addons

[Yrrasena]

Just now, Dg75 said:

You can, but not advised!  This is already fixed in the upcoming update, I just need to address the issue the above two are having and I

will be uploading this update hopefully within the hour.

Thank you for the fast reply and thanks for the fix  will it be okay to update midgame btw?

[Dg75]

16 hours ago, wantmesomemods said:

 

You are awesome, sorry for being airheaded. public sexing was off. I switched it on and reset PFA Vars, and it worked like a charm.

 

So also, I have 'needs toilet' and 'use safe space' off, my pressure is too high in both bladder and bowels, and whenever I try and paf, it says 'you are not ready to do tht now. is that more so an issue with the original pee and fart mod?

 

my character is literally going to wet herself as soon as I load in lol

 

16 hours ago, CrumbleQuin said:

if i havent any pressure, it shows "you do not have to pee/poop"

but even the presssure is high or higher, it still "you are not ready to do that now"

i do change the time setting to 12/24 to reduce pee/poop frequencies, which i used to do without paf addons, and it works fine at paf itself

so does it means paf addons has a fixed pressure rising rate, who makes paf time settings only effects the "action cooldown",makes me cant do it

Okay! So both of you seem to have the exact same issue here. PC has pressure and cant relieve. 

Hmm! weird. 

First all changing the time setting does not effect PFA at all. I only mentioned it because some may change the setting to something that

they are not expecting and may wind up perceiving it as a bug. Needs toilet and Use safe place would have no effect on your issue here.

So Sounds like their may be something blocking the script function - causing the "you are not ready to do that now". 

This happens only from the Pee() in PAF_MainQuest script. the Pee function can also run poop if PC  needs to take dump too.

Just thought I throw that in their. So I will show you the condition that is failing and causing this message to show "you are not ready to do that now"

 

int function Pee(bool peeOnly = false)
    if  PAF_MCMQuest.PAF_Disable_Pee  ; Is MCM pee enabled
        return -1
    endif
    if  PeeState > 0   ;If not it runs a differant mssge - "You do not have to pee"
        if  !ReadyToAnimate(PlayerREF)           ;Your culprit - this a combination of conditions - see below!
            DisplayMessage("You are not ready to do that now")
            Return -1
        endIf

 

;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; condition function to pee;;;;;;;;

 

 

bool function ReadyToAnimate(Actor a_actor)
    return (!isAnimating && !IsPaf_Occupied() && PlayerReady() && Sexlab.IsValidActor(a_actor))
endFunction

 

;this funky function looks to the var IsAnimating, and runs three other conditions functions - see below.

 

Bool Function IsPaf_Occupied()
    Return (Game.IsLookingControlsEnabled() == False || UI.IsMenuOpen("Console") || Utility.IsInMenuMode())
EndFunction

 

this means:

1. You can move the camera and look about.

2. Console is snot open.

3. no menus are open

 

bool function PlayerReady()
    return !(PlayerREF.IsInCombat() || PlayerREF.GetSitState() != 0 || PlayerREF.GetSleepState() != 0 || PlayerREF.IsOnMount() || PlayerREF.IsSneaking() || PlayerREF.IsSwimming())
endFunction

 

;;;;;;All this BS means:

  1. not in combat

  2.  not sitting

  3. not sleeping

  4. not riding something(horse/dragon..)

  5. not sneaking

  6. not swimming

else Player is not ready to animate !

 

Finally sexlab needs to pass the Player as a valid actor

this probably could be removed(unsure) as it checks all the same BS as above albiet a few more things like is flying or race.. 

But if you were having issues with this you wouldn't ever be able to have sex because sexlab checks against this every scene!

 

if all this passes the PC can finally take a really long piss! Maybe this why my PC pee's a river . .lol 

 

Be honest with you I cannot know why your PC would fail these condition. Only you can know that!

Why so many conditions just to take a piss! Goood question I don't know that either, except PFA added the IsPaf_Occupied() bit as I was tired of 

my PC pissing every time pressed the B - my action key in some menu. The rest probably to do with Idles conflict IDK.

 

I can aslo tell you my PC passes these conditions every time, so look closely at them and see if one may fail you. IDK maybe some modconflict ???

If you do find a culprit that maybe a potential mod conflict let me know ill see about fixing it here.

Edited November 16, 2024 by Dg75

[Dg75]

54 minutes ago, Yrrasena said:

Thank you for the fast reply and thanks for the fix  will it be okay to update midgame btw?

yes. 

[Dg75]

New update PFA v 3.5.0

Be sure to read the spoiler on man page. 

Has two new new mcm options. left pane near botom - Pas Gas - was supposed to be if Poopstate > 2, but I kinda forgot to add that.

   still only has a random chance to fart.   If off - no but squeaks promisse!!

Right pane under Followers and under DootyBreak - set a hotkey and can use it to control your dootybreak. 

if standing outside an outhouse you have to have your xhairs on it and close enough for xhairs to register its their.

if sitting in the outhouse - press the key before getting up, then get clear of it.

Forgot to test this one - To cancel a dooty break press and hold the key until it stops. If an actor is already sitting and paffing then 

they will need to finish first. Basicly the script checks for if key is held whenever next actor is chosen to go(before they path) and 

again during pathing wait loop - so if actor gets stuck or not pathing - try holding the key down to cancel.

 

[myhouseatl]

How script heavy is PAF?  I have alive and peeing and it seems fairly tame with it's script.  Is PAF much worse than A&P?

[Merlin Wizzard]

I 'm experiencing the same problem. Can't piss or shit "You're not ready to do that." Ended up constipated, but I could piss in a bucket eventually.

 

Resaver identified problems <a href="script//paf_playeraliasscript">paf_playeraliasscript</> occurs the most often as stack frame (1114 occurrences)</p>

MagicEffect occurs the second most often as a stack frame (313 occurrences)

 

Just noticed the new upgrade, hopefully that works. Giving it a try and will let you know.

Edited November 17, 2024 by Merlin Wizzard
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[Kijo28]

Hello . I have PAF 4.0 on it but as soon as I install PAF Fixes and Addons I have constant crashes... I also have the command manager but I don't have the voice pack for it... do I absolutely need it or the game crashes because I don't have it ?

[Dg75]

27 minutes ago, Kijo28 said:

Hello . I have PAF 4.0 on it but as soon as I install PAF Fixes and Addons I have constant crashes... I also have the command manager but I don't have the voice pack for it... do I absolutely need it or the game crashes because I don't have it ?

yes. it has Comment_Manager.esp  packed within the voice pack.  If you have my CM from LL be sure PFA_VoicePack_Main-v3.0.7 overwrites it.

the CM from LL also has Comment_Manager.esp should be the same thing. It may be outdated for PFA. Although I doubt it make the game crash. IDK..

[Dg75]

10 hours ago, myhouseatl said:

How script heavy is PAF?  I have alive and peeing and it seems fairly tame with it's script.  Is PAF much worse than A&P?

LOL! 

 

Not going to lie to you. Pee and Fart starts linked single OnUpdates chain from mod enabled to end of game.

PFA - seeks to optimize much, but essentially adds to it as well. Heavy don't mean scripts are bad though, as long they are written in 

a manner that executes promptly and ideally less frequently... Unfortunately Pee and fart has a high frequency, but I bet A&P and most 

mods do as well. I don't know what A&P is never tried it.

Edited November 17, 2024 by Dg75

[Dg75]

6 hours ago, Merlin Wizzard said:

I 'm experiencing the same problem. Can't piss or shit "You're not ready to do that." Ended up constipated, but I could piss in a bucket eventually.

 

Resaver identified problems <a href="script//paf_playeraliasscript">paf_playeraliasscript</> occurs the most often as stack frame (1114 occurrences)</p>

MagicEffect occurs the second most often as a stack frame (313 occurrences)

 

Just noticed the new upgrade, hopefully that works. Giving it a try and will let you know.

If you haven't done so see my above post on this. - relates to the press of Paf's action key to relieve

PFA only adds to the condition check weather or not you have console open or a menu and you have looking controles enabled.

Paf by default checks against player already animating in some way e.g. sneaking, swimming, combat...  also must pass Sexlab's Valid actor.

the only you can get that specific message if one of those conditions fail. If it was happening to me I would add debug notifications to try and 

pinpoint exactly which condition fails it, and seek a solution, but I cannot reproduce it myself.

 

You could try and use the debug-reset option in PFA's MCM, this will reset Paf's IsAnimating bool as IsAnimating is

checked here is as well. and see if you can key down afterword's. 

 

I could upload a test for this, you guys having this issue could try it . It would just be script overwright of that 

condition function adding a messageBox notification to give details on a failed check.

I almost bet all three of you have same issue here. Itl take me a moment to wip it up, and Ill post it down here somewhere

Edited November 17, 2024 by Dg75

[Kijo28]

1 hour ago, Dg75 said:

yes. it has Comment_Manager.esp  packed within the voice pack.  If you have my CM from LL be sure PFA_VoicePack_Main-v3.0.7 overwrites it.

the CM from LL also has Comment_Manager.esp should be the same thing. It may be outdated for PFA. Although I doubt it make the game crash. IDK..

Which download has the CM in it?  I have LL Comment Manager 3.2.1

I have now only downloaded PFA_VoicePack_Main v3.2.1...

[Kijo28]

5 minutes ago, Kijo28 said:

Which download has the CM in it?  I have LL Comment Manager 3.2.1

I have now only downloaded PFA_VoicePack_Main v3.2.1...

okay, I see that the voice pack is cm ;-)

[Sandstorm603]

Can you make the PAF mod compatible with other sexlab mods? Running any sexlab animation that is not from PAF permanently disables all menus and hotkeys except the settings

[Dg75]

On 11/16/2024 at 12:56 AM, CrumbleQuin said:

if i havent any pressure, it shows "you do not have to pee/poop"

but even the presssure is high or higher, it still "you are not ready to do that now"

i do change the time setting to 12/24 to reduce pee/poop frequencies, which i used to do without paf addons, and it works fine at paf itself

so does it means paf addons has a fixed pressure rising rate, who makes paf time settings only effects the "action cooldown",makes me cant do it

 

On 11/16/2024 at 12:21 AM, wantmesomemods said:

 

You are awesome, sorry for being airheaded. public sexing was off. I switched it on and reset PFA Vars, and it worked like a charm.

 

So also, I have 'needs toilet' and 'use safe space' off, my pressure is too high in both bladder and bowels, and whenever I try and paf, it says 'you are not ready to do tht now. is that more so an issue with the original pee and fart mod?

 

my character is literally going to wet herself as soon as I load in lol

 

On 11/17/2024 at 3:10 AM, Merlin Wizzard said:

I 'm experiencing the same problem. Can't piss or shit "You're not ready to do that." Ended up constipated, but I could piss in a bucket eventually.

 

Resaver identified problems <a href="script//paf_playeraliasscript">paf_playeraliasscript</> occurs the most often as stack frame (1114 occurrences)</p>

MagicEffect occurs the second most often as a stack frame (313 occurrences)

 

Just noticed the new upgrade, hopefully that works. Giving it a try and will let you know.

Okay! Obviously their is something wrong here. 

if any of you want to try this -  or anybody having this same issue, where PC has pressure and keying down to relieve has no effect, but 

instead get a notification to screen - "you are not ready to do that now" - if getting any other meesage than this then this test wont work.

as this only checks the condition function related to that specific message. 

 

 

Turn On Debug mode, Vs 3.6.2 will run a test

 

Edited December 6, 2024 by Dg75

[Dg75]

14 minutes ago, Sandstorm603 said:

Can you make the PAF mod compatible with other sexlab mods? Running any sexlab animation that is not from PAF permanently disables all menus and hotkeys except the settings

Running any sexlab animation that is not from PAF permanently disables all menus and hotkeys except the settings 

 

What menu ?

What hotkeys ?

 when in a sexlab animation I wasn't aware of any menu's or hotkeys except the ones provided by sexlab or defeat- animation selector.. 

Mine work just fine with PAF mod.

[Sandstorm603]

everything, favorites, inventory, skill tree, magics ... the only thing i can open is the settings.  The issue happened in the latest version from steam and in 1.6.640 which im currently using. I tried sexlab defeat animations, the solo animations from sexlab aroused, the masturbation spell from sexlab eager npcs, and the solo animations from osl aroused

Edited November 17, 2024 by Sandstorm603

[Dg75]

2 hours ago, Sandstorm603 said:

everything, favorites, inventory, skill tree, magics ... the only thing i can open is the settings.  The issue happened in the latest version from steam and in 1.6.640 which im currently using. I tried sexlab defeat animations, the solo animations from sexlab aroused, the masturbation spell from sexlab eager npcs, and the solo animations from osl aroused

and you think Pee and fart mod or PFA is the culprit ?

 

are you using keyboard or gamepad - or the GamePad++ mod  think required a patch for AE

Looks as if your control map is broken.

I cannot imagine how PAF or PFA could have anything to do with it. 

[Sandstorm603]

found it, it only happens if you have enabled

"Pee/Poop in every Sexlab Scene"

[Dg75]

2 hours ago, Sandstorm603 said:

found it, it only happens if you have enabled

"Pee/Poop in every Sexlab Scene"

weird I wonder why that would break menus. Well thats probably the heaviest thing to do with paf mod.

maybe its too much for the engine. IDK  PFA doesn't edit any of the kink stuff, but I shall look into it and see.

thx for the feedback!

[junip0r]

On 11/16/2024 at 9:47 PM, Dg75 said:

Right pane under Followers and under DootyBreak - set a hotkey and can use it to control your dootybreak.

You are awesome! Thanks so much!

[junip0r]

So this is weird: had a Dooty Break, follower A stripped and went, then follower B stripped and went, but was re-dressed in follower A's outfit. I reset their outfit with NFF, but after bathing, follower B was again re-dressed in follower A's outfit.

 

Dooty Break key is working great, thanks again!

Edited November 18, 2024 by fleckso

[Sandstorm603]

Seems like this option also triggers the interface bug

"Player used as toilet"

[Dg75]

7 hours ago, fleckso said:

So this is weird: had a Dooty Break, follower A stripped and went, then follower B stripped and went, but was re-dressed in follower A's outfit. I reset their outfit with NFF, but after bathing, follower B was again re-dressed in follower A's outfit.

 

Dooty Break key is working great, thanks again!

uh oh! Dootybreak dont set their outfits when they go. 

it just unequips their gear and re-equips it when their done.

So if that's happening you got a mod setting outfits.

I use one array variable to record their gear id's - this all happens in looping function - so as is re-equips their gear - the array clears

and gets ready for the next looping actor... I'll look and make sure its clearing like its supposed to. I can make it re-create at every 

iteration of the loop ensuring it starts with no id values.

[Dg75]

23 minutes ago, Sandstorm603 said:

Seems like this option also triggers the interface bug

"Player used as toilet"

when the so called interface bug happens.

is it just the menus and hot key broken ?

Can you still move the PC and draw weapons and cast spells.. ?

[Sandstorm603]

1 hour ago, Dg75 said:

when the so called interface bug happens.

is it just the menus and hot key broken ?

Can you still move the PC and draw weapons and cast spells.. ?

i can still move, as for weapons and spells i can only use what i had equiped before the bug happened, after all since the interface is permanently gone i cant select another weapon or spell