PAF Fixes and Addons

[Dg75]

15 hours ago, Battlestar1965 said:

Hi, I think there's still a problem, at least on my side. My PC is almost shitting and peeing herself, but when i try to do "normal" PAFing i get the message "You are not ready to this", but it is no problem to fill bottles. So why can't i just PAF without having to fill bottles? In addition, although i checked the undress and the play undress animation options, the PC is not undressing.

 

What would be the best settings in your addon mod to be able to do eveything? For me (maybe since I'm not a native english speaker) your descriptions of the options are not always crystal clear, so i might have chosen some options, that are preventing me from doing certain things.

 

Right now almost everything in your options is unchecked, except for the comments options.

 

5 hours ago, FokinLegend said:

I just wanted to say that I have been having the same exact problem stated.  I've been trying to see if it is a problem on my end, but I really can't see any mod issues from my part.  
Note that when I first installed the mod, everything worked for a while.  Wish I could give more diagnostic info.

On the previous page their was two maybe three others having same issue.  - PC has to paf, but when using the 

go button gets "You are not ready to do that now" instead of PC going. If you haven't done so go back and find it,

I think its two pages back. Their I explain the only things can cause this message to play is if PC is animation in some way

- Combat, Swimming, Sitting, Flying...

Sexlab has to be able to validate your PC(it should else it would never start a sex scene with PC)

And you must have Player looking controls enabled, this would be disabled if you were some kind worksation

like a forge or alchemy lab, YOUR NOT VR ARE YOU ? - Not sure if it pass this.

and finally PAF/PFA checks to make sure you do not have any menu's open - even the console.

 

Failing any of these conditions will result in this exact message showing - "You are not ready to do this now"

and happens in only one function on the Paf Main script and nowhere else.  So its isolated to these conditions.

 

If you see a test script their on the old post just ignore that and turn Debug mode in PFA and try to pee..

it works just as well - on version 3.6.2 .. will not attempt a fix though, they are just notifies.  And only if they fail.

So if you pass conditions here it wont notify anything.  This test requires Pee to be enabled in Pee and farts mcm,

and Player has a Peestate greater than 0

 

Note I cannot reproduce your issues, My player paf's well and regularly. - Maybe too much lol

Anyways if you can pinpoint me a condition, and if its likely its conflicting with some other mod,

maybe I could either remove the condition or seek some kind of resolution here. Otherwise I cant do squat with out a culprit. 

 

Note here the exact message "You are not ready to do that now" and make sure its not "You cannot do that now" as it actually

would come from a check in the KeyDown event , which also checks PlayerReady() function - partial check compared to above

and only checks if combat, swimming, sitting .. ect, but to get to the pee function it must pass this - so this would further isolate it

to sexlab validating actor(not currently having sex) - Looking controls are enabled or Menu's not open

 

Edited December 5, 2024 by Dg75

[ilikedapie]

6 hours ago, Dg75 said:

 

On the previous page their was two maybe three others having same issue.  - PC has to paf, but when using the 

go button gets "You are not ready to do that now" instead of PC going. If you haven't done so go back and find it,

I think its two pages back. Their I explain the only things can cause this message to play is if PC is animation in some way

- Combat, Swimming, Sitting, Flying...

Sexlab has to be able to validate your PC(it should else it would never start a sex scene with PC)

And you must have Player looking controls enabled, this would be disabled if you were some kind worksation

like a forge or alchemy lab, YOUR NOT VR ARE YOU ? - Not sure if it pass this.

and finally PAF/PFA checks to make sure you do not have any menu's open - even the console.

 

Failing any of these conditions will result in this exact message showing - "You are not ready to do this now"

and happens in only one function on the Paf Main script and nowhere else.  So its isolated to these conditions.

 

If you see a test script their on the old post just ignore that and turn Debug mode in PFA and try to pee..

it works just as well - on version 3.6.2 .. will not attempt a fix though, they are just notifies.  And only if they fail.

So if you pass conditions here it wont notify anything.  This test requires Pee to be enabled in Pee and farts mcm,

and Player has a Peestate greater than 0

 

Note I cannot reproduce your issues, My player paf's well and regularly. - Maybe too much lol

Anyways if you can pinpoint me a condition, and if its likely its conflicting with some other mod,

maybe I could either remove the condition or seek some kind of resolution here. Otherwise I cant do squat with out a culprit. 

 

Note here the exact message "You are not ready to do that now" and make sure its not "You cannot do that now" as it actually

would come from a check in the KeyDown event , which also checks PlayerReady() function - partial check compared to above

and only checks if combat, swimming, sitting .. ect, but to get to the pee function it must pass this - so this would further isolate it

to sexlab validating actor(not currently having sex) - Looking controls are enabled or Menu's not open

 

Okay, you're right, something is preventing my PC from passing the valid actor check in sexlab.
"script variable IsAnimating should be false - False. Sexlab's valid Actor check should be true - False
 

Any idea where I should go from here? I am pretty clueless when it comes to using the console.  Appreciate the help

[cartanamanga]

14 hours ago, Dg75 said:

Okay is paf dirt staying on you after bathing ? You just mention not cleaning the debuffs.- which debufs not getting cleaned PFA's added pee Stink ? or Pee and Farts's

original debuffs ?

When bathing are you using KIC soaps or the KIC washwater ?  They are two spell same scripts different properties

- and are both not working?

Both should work, they would call the same function in the PafMain script -Bathe, which should clean the paf dirt. PAF's debuffs remove and add 

per its Update events dependent on the Dirt state it finds. PFA;s debuff is weird but should get removed when bathing.

If they are not working - check to make sure the patch isn't being overwritten - this the SBBathSpellScript, and easily tell 

if you open the source and at top is a list of properties, at lower end of list is PAFMainQuest Script. If you don't see this -

then its being over written or you don't have it installed.  Or check it in xedit.. 

 

Are you using the PAFFollowerKIC patch, if so make sure it overwrites other PAF-KIC patches: this does same as PAFKIC 4.0, but a lot more too.

I just previously had an issue with this one as the property wasn't filled - so the script didnt know what a PAFMainQuestScript was.

I fixed and re-uploaded it along with PFA 3.6.2

 

KIC_PAF _4.0 and the original are not working in any way for me if I use PFA 3.6.2., bathing with soap or washwater don't change the status of PAF or PFA debuffs (Pee and Farts's original debuffs or the pee stink). I checked and it's not being overwritten, and I tested with no other mods in a new save.

 

But today I tested the PAFFollowerKIC with PFA 3.6.2 (without the KIC_PAF_4.0) and it worked with KIC, so I will use it. Thank you for the help.

[Dg75]

15 hours ago, FokinLegend said:

Okay, you're right, something is preventing my PC from passing the valid actor check in sexlab.
"script variable IsAnimating should be false - False. Sexlab's valid Actor check should be true - False
 

Any idea where I should go from here? I am pretty clueless when it comes to using the console.  Appreciate the help

Ooo! You  found your culprit. Congratulations!

ValidActor is a Sexlab function. Its primary use is by sexlab to Validate Actors. 

Things that could make it false:

Your PC is currently involved in a sex scene.

Your PC is a creature and you have Sexlabs Creature's anims disabled    ;,I can definitely see this making a an incompatibility. ..

No creature animations to support your PC creature

Sexlab does not know your Creature or race is.

Your PC has been flagged forbidden in sexlab anaimations

Is dead, No 3D loaded, disable, flying, mounted, 

 

Hmmm! How about I just not use this function and try this instead. 

IsActorActive  - only checks if in a current sex scene and nothing else. This all PFA needs to know anyways 

Try this: a script overwright with this changed function - see if it helps.

 

But also know that Pafs Kink functions - when calling sex also uses the IsValidActor check. I cannot change that as sexlab would 

need it to pass anyways, and PAF doesnt want to trouble Sexlab functions with passing in invalid actors.

but just for paffing, I think it would be okay to replace that function call. The primary concern would be if say your

PC was a Giraffe or something, then obviously wouldn't be compatible with Paffing idles.

If it works for you let me know and I will update the mod with it.

 

 

 

PAF_MainHotFix.7z

Edited December 5, 2024 by Dg75

[Dg75]

8 hours ago, cartanamanga said:

KIC_PAF _4.0 and the original are not working in any way for me if I use PFA 3.6.2., bathing with soap or washwater don't change the status of PAF or PFA debuffs (Pee and Farts's original debuffs or the pee stink). I checked and it's not being overwritten, and I tested with no other mods in a new save.

 

But today I tested the PAFFollowerKIC with PFA 3.6.2 (without the KIC_PAF_4.0) and it worked with KIC, so I will use it. Thank you for the help.

Sorry. I think the Paf 4.0 may just need to be re-compiled, If you rather use it instead, Otherwise I was thinking on deleting it anyways as The PAFFollowerKIC is its replacer.

Only poblo is 4.0 is light the other not so light. 

[Dg75]

10 hours ago, tamai said:

Any chance of having some compatibility with Immersive Equipping Animations the issue to highlight is when you undress with this mod installed an animation plays depending on the clothing through dar/oar not sure which, however it seems to cancel the PAF animation so your character just stands there not animated. I think a good solution might be to have an option to give a 2-5 sec wait before animations starts. Obviously this is just a personal request ^^; but figured I would mention it if you do or dont want too.

Okay, if it was OAR or Dar, then anything using fnis like the paff idles should win any conflict. Unless things had changed since I last studied animation replacers.

Disregard the above, I just looked at the mods reqs its not Oar or Dar its a fnis or nemisis, so yeah their would be a conflict

 

it wouldn't be a problem to add such as mcm option. Just would like to know if this would actually help or not. If you want to test let me know I'll 

wip up a test script with 5 sec wait - between Undressing and the Idles starting - we can test it on the Pee function or whatever...

Edited December 6, 2024 by Dg75

[Dg75]

1 hour ago, tamai said:

 

ill test it ^^

 

Okay! This is for Pee and however you make your PC go. 

All this does is add a 5 sec wait time directly after Undressing and just before Idles commence. Not sure how long the Immers- Equip idle is- may have to 

edit the wait time here if necessary. 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 6, 2024 by Dg75

[Dg75]

5 minutes ago, tamai said:

 

Okay so i just realized because I was going to send you a video of the issue so you could clearly see it but i saw that this mod has its own stripping animations and i turned that off and it works so dont worry about doing extra work lol thanks anyway but at least if someone else has that issue there is a workaround

Yeah but that kinda sucks if you have to turn Undress animations off every time just to take a leek.

I was looking through its forum's and seems a bit buggy - or conflicts with a lot mods.

[Dg75]

10 hours ago, tamai said:

 

Okay so that worked perfectly ❤️ but i think the wait time could be reduced by 2 seconds and it would work best. I was talking about the undress animations in Pee and Fart menu removing that option makes it work automatically however no undress animations are played from either mod so this fix fixes being able to use the animations properly. Let me know if you want me to send a gif/vid but if you reduce the timing i cna test it again ^^

 

So far I havent had many issues with it people i saw were complaining about pandora compatibility but it works now I havent had an issue with it for other mods so far but i could see how it could. By default the mod has undress animations disabled and only has dress animations on probably for compatibility reasons.

Okay this reduced to a 3 second wait. You can test if you want, but I probably just add a User adjustable wait time in the mcm

from 1.0 - 10.0   ;10 maybe a bit much, but their maybe other mods that do similar with longer idles...

This may play into my other mod I been working on. Domination - utilizes zaz idles into user controlled skits  -some kink and maybe combat related

stuff. I already have a functional version, just haven't tested everything in it yet.

 

 

 

Edited December 6, 2024 by Dg75

[Dg75]

4 minutes ago, tamai said:

 

This one worked perfectly as soon as the animation ended it started ^^

Great! I shall add this as an option in next update soon.

[ilikedapie]

17 hours ago, Dg75 said:

Ooo! You  found your culprit. Congratulations!

ValidActor is a Sexlab function. Its primary use is by sexlab to Validate Actors. 

Things that could make it false:

Your PC is currently involved in a sex scene.

Your PC is a creature and you have Sexlabs Creature's anims disabled    ;,I can definitely see this making a an incompatibility. ..

No creature animations to support your PC creature

Sexlab does not know your Creature or race is.

Your PC has been flagged forbidden in sexlab anaimations

Is dead, No 3D loaded, disable, flying, mounted, 

 

Hmmm! How about I just not use this function and try this instead. 

IsActorActive  - only checks if in a current sex scene and nothing else. This all PFA needs to know anyways 

Try this: a script overwright with this changed function - see if it helps.

 

But also know that Pafs Kink functions - when calling sex also uses the IsValidActor check. I cannot change that as sexlab would 

need it to pass anyways, and PAF doesnt want to trouble Sexlab functions with passing in invalid actors.

but just for paffing, I think it would be okay to replace that function call. The primary concern would be if say your

PC was a Giraffe or something, then obviously wouldn't be compatible with Paffing idles.

If it works for you let me know and I will update the mod with it.

 

 

 

PAF_MainHotFix.7z 30.04 kB · 5 downloads

The hotfix seems to work perfectly.  Installed, reset PeeAndFart, and everything is working smoothly. Still have no clue what was causing the problem; my character's race is High Elf and I think it is being recognized as a valid actor, but something was preventing my PC from regular peeing with no toilet, and pretty much everything else in PAF. Some mod conflict perhaps, maybe some loose files from deleted mods are still there, I really don't know.  But the problems are gone with this fix.

Thanks for the help!!

Edited December 6, 2024 by FokinLegend

[Dg75]

40 minutes ago, FokinLegend said:

The hotfix seems to work perfectly.  Installed, reset PeeAndFart, and everything is working smoothly. Still have no clue what was causing the problem; my character's race is High Elf and I think it is being recognized as a valid actor, but something was preventing my PC from regular peeing with no toilet, and pretty much everything else in PAF. Some mod conflict perhaps, maybe some loose files from deleted mods are still there, I really don't know.  But the problems are gone with this fix.

Thanks for the help!!

Well assuming your PC isn't already animating - Current in sex scene, or flying(I don't think it refers to animated wings flying), or mounted on a horse

 

and since a highelf is Not considered a creature

 

then the only thing that could be failing Validate Actor is your PC has been flagged as excluded from having sex Or the game thinks your PC is dead

 

In any case: I already updated the script with the change in function. It will be included next update real soon.

thx for testing it out for me

 

Don't know if it matters, I use the this - Utility plus. Maybe it help maybe not.

 

Edited December 6, 2024 by Dg75

[Dg75]

New update again. PFA 3.6.3, addresses a few issues 

If you installed any test or hot fix - get rid of it or don't let those overwright this update. It has them all, and properly written in throught.. 

 

[yacky91]

Coming around after a while, so I decided to install the latest version and seems it now requires Comment Manager as master, so does that mean CM is a must install? Or I downloaded wrong file? 

[Battlestar1965]

9 hours ago, Dg75 said:

New update again. PFA 3.6.3, addresses a few issues 

If you installed any test or hot fix - get rid of it or don't let those overwright this update. It has them all, and properly written in throught.. 

 

Thank You. Just to give a small update the problems on my end:

 

On 12/6/2024 at 12:08 AM, Dg75 said:

Okay, you're right, something is preventing my PC from passing the valid actor check in sexlab.
"script variable IsAnimating should be false - False. Sexlab's valid Actor check should be true - False

 

That was posted by FokinLegend and i had exactly the same messages. In addition i get this "NeckBitten" quite often, so it looks like my PC is not recognised as a human character, but rather as a creature, as far as i understand correctly. I don't know why this happens, but i think i might have bitten by a vampire once. But there's no indication that I'm turning into a vampire. Are vampires recognised as creatures or as humans? I really don't know....

 

Anyways, havn't installed your latest update yet, but i installed your hotfix. That one fixed, that i always got the "You are not ready to do that now" message. So i could manually get my PC to pee when using the action menu. The PC played the undress animation but didn't actually undress. Why can this happen, that the animation for undressing is played, but the clothes are acually not removed. BTW, for my ONE companion it seems to worked flawless. The follower is undressing and doing her business as intended. So it's just the player character having some problems

[Dg75]

6 hours ago, yacky91 said:

Coming around after a while, so I decided to install the latest version and seems it now requires Comment Manager as master, so does that mean CM is a must install? Or I downloaded wrong file? 

its the numbered file in the downloads - link to mega - you need PFA_VoicePackMain - it has the comment manager in it. 

Dont use the one LL as it dont have PFA's voice resources.

[Dg75]

5 hours ago, Battlestar1965 said:

Thank You. Just to give a small update the problems on my end:

 

 

That was posted by FokinLegend and i had exactly the same messages. In addition i get this "NeckBitten" quite often, so it looks like my PC is not recognised as a human character, but rather as a creature, as far as i understand correctly. I don't know why this happens, but i think i might have bitten by a vampire once. But there's no indication that I'm turning into a vampire. Are vampires recognised as creatures or as humans? I really don't know....

 

Anyways, havn't installed your latest update yet, but i installed your hotfix. That one fixed, that i always got the "You are not ready to do that now" message. So i could manually get my PC to pee when using the action menu. The PC played the undress animation but didn't actually undress. Why can this happen, that the animation for undressing is played, but the clothes are acually not removed. BTW, for my ONE companion it seems to worked flawless. The follower is undressing and doing her business as intended. So it's just the player character having some problems

Vampires are not treated as creatures by the game. The Necksbitten mssge you are getting may be normal if curing sick -the shits -  as it just resets a

tracking variable that would be used if you were a vampire. Their are two unique messages that apply if debug mode is on:

1 . "PFA- Setting NecksBitten." is when its just resetting, and always happens when PC is cured from being sick - even if not a vampire.

 

2 . "PFA- Increment NecksBitten" is when you are a vampire and the tracking variable is being increased per necksbitten - live victim only.

     this is how PFA tracks feeding dead, Default vanilla -does not feed dead, only mods like Better Vampires add that to skyrim- and also inc. Game stat necks bitten

    PFA counts vanilla game feeds, and compares to Game stat and deduces the difference as feeding off dead 

    All this is related to contracting the shits if a vampire as too much feeding on dead and or stale blood potions get vampy sick.

    You should not be getting this message if you are not a vampire.

 

Install the latest update - Loose the hotfix! It will only cause future problems if you forget its their.  PFA .v3.6.3 has been updated with it.

 

Playing Paf's undress idle, and not undressing.  Well That's a new one at least! 

Hmm! I would check Both Sexlabs and Pee and Farts MCM - strip slots - make sure you are not disabling allowable slots to be unequipped.

Paee and Fart prety much uses SexLab function to Strip, except may use its own Strip slot settings ...Go from here

 

 

 

 

[Dg75]

Ooops! The NPC use bottle was intended for any npc to be in xhairs and be egilble.

I missed a condition - as is only Paf tracked actors or the PC will get to use a bottle. 

It will get fixed

 

I've thinking about adding some kind of option - not sure what/how - yet

NPC's would have needs as well - but not so much tracked states, but like maybe a random go of sorts

as in if strolling about in town you may see one pissing behind a bush or stinking up your toilet . .

this maybe - It would have to be kept super light as not blow up papyrus what with everything that's already going on.

 

Maybe it could be rigged into an re-usable actor alias that randomly jump from actor to actor - and if circumstance right they 

either path to a toilet or to nearest bush to take a paf

Edited December 7, 2024 by Dg75

[yacky91]

12 hours ago, Dg75 said:

its the numbered file in the downloads - link to mega - you need PFA_VoicePackMain - it has the comment manager in it. 

Dont use the one LL as it dont have PFA's voice resources.

Yes I did download that one, but I was asking if now PFA fixes requires CM from now on (it has that dependency), cause I think before I only had PAF fixes. Before I wasn't sure about adding all the CM stuff due to me having to translate all 😅

[Dg75]

5 minutes ago, yacky91 said:

Yes I did download that one, but I was asking if now PFA fixes requires CM from now on (it has that dependency), cause I think before I only had PAF fixes. Before I wasn't sure about adding all the CM stuff due to me having to translate all 😅

Yes it was made a requirement since PFA v3.0 and up

Sorry! I have no idea how to go about translations. 

 

If anyone wants to have a got at it they can.

Edited December 8, 2024 by Dg75

[yacky91]

Just now, Dg75 said:

Yes it was made a requirement since PFA v3.0 and up

Sorry! I have no idea how to go about translations. 

No worries, I am just doing my own translation haha, very amateur though. But yes I just decided to go get CM and do it.

Though it doesn't have as many lines (luckily) there are still certain ones I can't translate 100% due to language barrier and context as there are specific meanings lol. Specially the vulgar language (no complaints I like it) gets a bit complicated.

But yeah I might just do generic lines that mean the same thing 😝

[Merlin Wizzard]

Since the update my girl will only pee standing up holding an imaginary dick like a fire hose. What happened?

[Dg75]

6 hours ago, Merlin Wizzard said:

Since the update my girl will only pee standing up holding an imaginary dick like a fire hose. What happened?

Hmm check Sexlab mcm to see if your girl is being treated as male. PFA only will do this if your girl was wearing a futa and futa detection is turned on. 😶

 

Pee and fart gets its gender animations from sexlab gender (can be differant from the games, or actual gender of the Actor) 

So if sexlab is treating your girl as a dude, then she'll piss just like the fellas.

 

If you think its PFA doing it try shutting off the Futa detection in PFA's mcm - and open sexlab mcm and fix your girls gender back to a girl.

I will look into pfa handling of this.

 

Also make sure you didn't add any custom armor to the Futa list, if PFA checks for a futa

PFA looks for the CBBE Futa or if anything added to the custom Futa list.

It is possible to add Boots or worn gear to the list and PFA would treat it as a pecker

This mcm option may be a bit confusing for some. Its found right under the Custom Worn Option and they are 

two entirely seperate lists that the mcm use same functionality to process.

You can select the Browse Worn - or whatever it says. and Highlight View list then click the lower toggle - the one for futa!

 to view what's on the list. Close mcm and watch your notifications.

Edited December 24, 2024 by Dg75

[Battlestar1965]

Hello....I had PAF and PFA deinstalled for some time, because i had problems with the PC not undressing and all kind of other problems. Now I tried again, and look, everything seems to work (I hope...). The PC is undressing again and the other stuff seems to work as well. Only ONE thing i noticed, which might be a tiny little small bug: if you try to fill a bottle with urine, you only get a bottle of excrement, and not a bottle of urine. Other than that nothing major was catching my attention...

[Dg75]

10 hours ago, Battlestar1965 said:

Hello....I had PAF and PFA deinstalled for some time, because i had problems with the PC not undressing and all kind of other problems. Now I tried again, and look, everything seems to work (I hope...). The PC is undressing again and the other stuff seems to work as well. Only ONE thing i noticed, which might be a tiny little small bug: if you try to fill a bottle with urine, you only get a bottle of excrement, and not a bottle of urine. Other than that nothing major was catching my attention...

If peeing and pooping, or just pooping you'll get the poop bottle, else if peeing only you'll get a pee bottle.

I did have an error though I just found, if peeing only would get a pee bottle if PFA's mcm option to use TP for female peeing was enabled.

Otherwise no bottle would have been given.  Just had to move the addItem call outside the UsTp condition. 

 

Edit:

Oh heck! I see it now! I just recently edited the PeeInBottle and PoopInBottle functions so NPC's could join in on the bottle action.

I forgot Paf has menu options to specifically pee in a bottle or poop in a bottle.  I rewrote the pee in bottle function to check on 

States. So if you got a poopstate and Pee in bottle function is running, pees and poops. PFA's 1st mcm opt - Paf Setting

effects this poopstate.

Anyways Ill fix it so if user is using menu to pee only then it pees only!

 

Done! I just added mcm option for preference, weather Paf in bottles or Pee/poo in bottles. 

It will be on next update.

 

Although I cannot possibly imagine how difficult it be to actually shit in a bottle!!!

Edited December 28, 2024 by Dg75