Sexcraft - A speechcraft overhaul [BETA]

[normal24yearoldstudent]

On 7/14/2024 at 7:25 AM, SNK_1 said:

but you shouldn't be wearing more than one outfit having this keyword anyway, more about this below

OH lol i was using erotic armor keyword wrong lol. and yeah this whole explanation clear things up quite a bit, thank you

 

looking forward to the next update!

[AbastedTher]

Can you give examples of erotic armours I am stuck

[Michelle Bubbles]

I scoured the thread but can't find someone with the same weird problem as me, to put it simply: Sex does not give me any experience. Checking the console, the voice for exp gain gives a fat 0.00000 exp gained, with "time" being 0.40000 and... the other one (I am sorry for being so scatter brained, I will make a better post soon) remaining at 0.00000

 

Like I said I will make a better post with more info soon, this is just a rushed one in case I am missing something obvious and it's a common rookie mistake, I will make a better post ASAP with more info so ignore this if it's not something obvious

[Michelle Bubbles]

Ok, from what littel I can tell sexcraft seems to be unable to time the animations. In the console I get the messages
"relationship - sex duration < 60 sec -> no update"

 

And after

 

exp gain 0.0000000 (time 0.000000 count 0.400000)

Except I am certain I am letting the sexlab animations run for more than 60 seconds. I did remove Sexlab separate orgasm from the save and it is not a clean one, so I tried it again on a clean save. Same result... I am honestly stumped, anyone has any idea about troubleshooting this?

Unfortunately I am a noob, I am done for today and wanted to finally figure out how to get the papyrus log to attach to this post, only to realize I did not even have them enabled lol. I will post again sometime in the next few days with a log too, but if anybody already has an idea of what it could be causing the problem I'll be happy to hear it

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Michelle Bubbles said:

Ok, from what littel I can tell sexcraft seems to be unable to time the animations.

 

Hey, maybe I know what's happening.

 

In the latest version I changed the way animation time is retrieved. Early P+ releases were not measuring time properly but it has been fixed, so my own time logic became redundant and I removed it. Which version of P+ are you using? Maybe there's a bug somewhere.

 

Worst case scenario, you can try to use Sexcraft_0.12.0 for the time being. This version does not rely on P+ to measure animation time.

 

EDIT: I've just seen you mentioned using SLSO with P+. Since you also have the issue on a new save without SLSO, it is not the culprit, but also ensure that you don't have any other mod overwriting P+. This will cause issues.

Edited August 2, 2024 by SNK_1

[Guest]

On 7/24/2024 at 3:19 AM, AbastedTher said:

Can you give examples of erotic armours I am stuck

 

Use whatever armor you want. You can search on LL, on the Nexus or google "modbooru" to find some armors.

Then, you just need to add the EroticArmor keyword to the relevant chest armors, so Sexcraft is aware of their specific status. To do so, you can do it yourself using xEdit, KID or synthesis with a keyword patcher (there's a few available here on LL, and some generic ones that you can configure to do that too).

Edited August 2, 2024 by SNK_1

[abinisa]

i have kind of bug?!. i using skyrim 1.6.640 and install mods correctly only my skill tree still is normal not Sensuality (got curve skills etc)

not a super ground braking bug but it's not like intended. anyone knows how to fix this? using SL 1.6.5 (PPlus 1.8.2.3 "reason i getting a error report") latest version of this

[Michelle Bubbles]

16 hours ago, SNK_1 said:

 

Hey, maybe I know what's happening.

 

In the latest version I changed the way animation time is retrieved. Early P+ releases were not measuring time properly but it has been fixed, so my own time logic became redundant and I removed it. Which version of P+ are you using? Maybe there's a bug somewhere.

 

Worst case scenario, you can try to use Sexcraft_0.12.0 for the time being. This version does not rely on P+ to measure animation time.

 

EDIT: I've just seen you mentioned using SLSO with P+. Since you also have the issue on a new save without SLSO, it is not the culprit, but also ensure that you don't have any other mod overwriting P+. This will cause issues.

Welp, that is probably it... after checking I did indeed just grab the top file in sexlab P+, labeled LATEST, but... upon closer inspection that is 1.8, and version 2.10 is already available lol. Will try to fix ASAP! I will try to update sexlab first, but if that breaks things I will downgrade sexcraft as you suggested, thank you!

[Riot445]

 

I have Vokriinator installed as well as Sexcraft and despite being lower in the loadorder it is overwriting it and replacing the skill tree. Is there any way to completely overwrite it without uninstalling either?

[Guest]

14 hours ago, abinisa said:

i have kind of bug?!. i using skyrim 1.6.640 and install mods correctly only my skill tree still is normal not Sensuality.

 

5 hours ago, Riot445 said:

 I have Vokriinator installed as well as Sexcraft and despite being lower in the loadorder it is overwriting it and replacing the skill tree. Is there any way to completely overwrite it without uninstalling either?

 

You probably have other mods impacting your perk trees. Ensure that Sexcraft.esp is at the bottom of your load order. If you use Mod Organizer, you can see your load order in the right pane of the program. Drag and drop *.esps to re-order them. Don't confuse this with the left panel, which is used for the VFS (virtual file system) conflict resolution.

If you use LOOT, you can create a specific rule for Sexcraft.

 

 

9 hours ago, Michelle Bubbles said:

Welp, that is probably it... after checking I did indeed just grab the top file in sexlab P+, labeled LATEST, but... upon closer inspection that is 1.8, and version 2.10 is already available lol. Will try to fix ASAP! I will try to update sexlab first, but if that breaks things I will downgrade sexcraft as you suggested, thank you!

 

Everything should work properly with P+ 2.10+
The only "issue" with this version is that it disables the UI during scenes. This makes "Wandering hands" less convenient to use since you won't see the notifications. Note that you shouldn't use SLSO with P+. It is not compatible but you don't need it since the separate orgasm feature is already built in P+ (you can enable in from the Sexlab MCM), and Sexcraft is fully compatible with it.

 

Finally, you guys shouldn't use P+ 1.8.2.3 with Sexcraft: It is very old and you'll run into issues sooner or later, since some APIs I'm using don't even exist in this version.

Edited August 3, 2024 by SNK_1

[sg20903]

On 1/20/2024 at 3:58 PM, SNK_1 said:

 

For now yes, because I use the new StartScene() API.

Can we take that to mean that it may not be a hard requirement in the future? I really dig this mod but SLP+ breaks a lot of the stuff I typically use.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, ugrena said:

Can we take that to mean that it may not be a hard requirement in the future? I really dig this mod but SLP+ breaks a lot of the stuff I typically use.

 

Hey, thanks

 

Well, never say never but og SL compatibility probably won't come from me. I don't have the motivation to do it.

However, I think the mod is now in a pretty good state, so I'll likely provide the script source and release the version 1.0 soon.

Then, if anyone wants to port it, they have my blessing.

 

Just out of curiosity. If you don't mind me asking, what mods don't work properly with P+? Knowing this may be useful so they can improve it.

[sg20903]

On 8/6/2024 at 3:30 PM, SNK_1 said:

 

Hey, thanks

 

Well, never say never but og SL compatibility probably won't come from me. I don't have the motivation to do it.

However, I think the mod is now in a pretty good state, so I'll likely provide the script source and release the version 1.0 soon.

Then, if anyone wants to port it, they have my blessing.

 

Just out of curiosity. If you don't mind me asking, what mods don't work properly with P+? Knowing this may be useful so they can improve it.

Sounds good, maybe if it isn't too complex I'll port it myself when the source files are available, but no promises. As far as incompatibilities go, I'm sure there are a bunch since I still play on 1.5.97, but the only one I know of for certain is Succubus Heart. It causes an infinite loading screen on any save after you initialize it. The other major incompatibility is BeeingFemale, but I've found a work-around so that one isn't a big deal. If I come across any that haven't already been found, I'll be sure to report them.

Edited August 15, 2024 by ugrena

[abinisa]

where can i find the log? it fail to create a scenario  

[Guest]

7 hours ago, abinisa said:

where can i find the log? it fail to create a scenario  

 

Here you go. You can also enable Sexlab debug mode to see more info in the game console.

[jolyneHentai]

Been loving the mod, probably my favourite SexLab mod to date. I do have to ask if there are any plans to initiate threesomes using the hotkey? Or maybe it's already part of the mod and I just haven't found how. Right now the only way I can do threesome is using the built-in p+ matchmaker which is kinda immersion breaking for me. That aside, great mod and a must have for any of my future playthroughs. Very nice work.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, jolyneHentai said:

Been loving the mod, probably my favourite SexLab mod to date. I do have to ask if there are any plans to initiate threesomes using the hotkey?

 

Thank you for the positive feedback, glad you enjoy the mod

 

You can actually start 3P animations, but it only works with humanoid characters and it's a bit limited:

- If you have a (vanilla) follower and you tease another NPC, you'll have a 3P scene option involving this NPC and your current follower.

- The same option is available if you have a thrall (via fascination).

- You can also start 4P animations if you have both a follower and a thrall.

 

I already have some plans to ease the creation of 3P, 4P or 5P scenes:

- An MCM option to improve creature teasing => Tease as much compatible creatures nearby as possible instead of only the targeted one (ie: if you target a wolf, all eligible wolves nearby will join).

- Improve the NPC teasing system to allow creating 3P or 4P scenes with any willing NPCs (not only thralls or followers). Unfortunately this will be much harder to implement, so no guarantees.

 

How does that sound? Let me know if you have any other ideas.

[jolyneHentai]

1 hour ago, SNK_1 said:

 

Thank you for the positive feedback, glad you enjoy the mod

 

You can actually start 3P animations, but it only works with humanoid characters and it's a bit limited:

- If you have a (vanilla) follower and you tease another NPC, you'll have a 3P scene option involving this NPC and your current follower.

- The same option is available if you have a thrall (via fascination).

- You can also start 4P animations if you have both a follower and a thrall.

 

I already have some plans to ease the creation of 3P, 4P or 5P scenes:

- An MCM option to improve creature teasing => Tease as much compatible creatures nearby as possible instead of only the targeted one (ie: if you target a wolf, all eligible wolves nearby will join).

- Improve the NPC teasing system to allow creating 3P or 4P scenes with any willing NPCs (not only thralls or followers). Unfortunately this will be much harder to implement, so no guarantees.

 

How does that sound? Let me know if you have any other ideas.

 

Ah that explains why I haven't come across the 3P options, haven't gotten the thrall powers yet. Good to know.

 

I like the idea of having a toggle for multiple creatures, but would it be possible as a power instead of MCM option? Probably harder to do so MCM is fine too

(A more minor request related to the creature teasing I have is to have an invite animation play, like Aroused Creatures, but idk how feasable that is.)

 

For the NPC 3P,4P scenes I envisioned there'd an option like "Let's go find some others" in the list of scene options. Then you go talk to some NPCs and ask them to join and finally talk to the 1st NPC you teased again to start the animations. That's how I saw it but no clue how possible that is.

 

Regardless of how these systems are implemented, or even implemented at all, I'll be happy xD

 

[Michelle Bubbles]

On 8/2/2024 at 11:10 PM, SNK_1 said:

 

Hey, maybe I know what's happening.

 

In the latest version I changed the way animation time is retrieved. Early P+ releases were not measuring time properly but it has been fixed, so my own time logic became redundant and I removed it. Which version of P+ are you using? Maybe there's a bug somewhere.

 

Worst case scenario, you can try to use Sexcraft_0.12.0 for the time being. This version does not rely on P+ to measure animation time.

 

EDIT: I've just seen you mentioned using SLSO with P+. Since you also have the issue on a new save without SLSO, it is not the culprit, but also ensure that you don't have any other mod overwriting P+. This will cause issues.

 

Coming back to this to thank you as that did indeed solve the problem and make the mod work... but I realized after just how many mods that I want to use break by using sexlab P+. So sadly I will not use sexcraft for now, still I wish you the best of luck developing this, I thank you for the support, and I want you to know that I love the idea of getting xp in sex and using it to improve my character's sexual prowess that I will do it "manually" by adding speech xp and changing the weight of my character when I get Haggling with the console commands hee hee!

I look forward to when there is an easier way for a noob like me to convert specific animations (milk mod milking, devious follower spanking, mind control of skyrim hypnosis etc.) to work in sexlab P+!

[Guest]

19 hours ago, jolyneHentai said:

I like the idea of having a toggle for multiple creatures, but would it be possible as a power instead of MCM option? Probably harder to do so MCM is fine too

(A more minor request related to the creature teasing I have is to have an invite animation play, like Aroused Creatures, but idk how feasable that is.)

 

I'll see what I can do about that. The animation thing is pretty easy to do, but I'll need to find some animations that I like and get the authorization to use them from their original authors first.

 

19 hours ago, jolyneHentai said:

For the NPC 3P,4P scenes I envisioned there'd an option like "Let's go find some others" in the list of scene options. Then you go talk to some NPCs and ask them to join and finally talk to the 1st NPC you teased again to start the animations. That's how I saw it but no clue how possible that is.

 

That's what I was thinking too, but it's a bit difficult to achieve with the current system, and I can already foresee several problematic scenarios. That said, I'll probably try to implement something like that when I get back to work on this mod.

 

4 hours ago, Michelle Bubbles said:

Coming back to this to thank you as that did indeed solve the problem and make the mod work... but I realized after just how many mods that I want to use break by using sexlab P+. [...] I look forward to when there is an easier way for a noob like me to convert specific animations (milk mod milking, devious follower spanking, mind control of skyrim hypnosis etc.) to work in sexlab P+!

 

I think you can ask for help in the P+ discord to convert the mods you want to use, but it'll probably take a bit of investment.

Thanks for your feedback and for taking some time to test the mod anyway

[AzureAuriol]

I really like this mod so far, think it has alot of potential! It's also nice to see the dev so responsive in support, it doesn't go unnoticed!

I don't suppose it would be possible to add the V0.0.8 file back to the downloads section, would it? Playing with Ordinator and made the mistake of upgrading before reading the fine print on the main page 😅

[jolyneHentai]

17 hours ago, SNK_1 said:

I'll see what I can do about that. The animation thing is pretty easy to do, but I'll need to find some animations that I like and get the authorization to use them from their original authors first.

 

Sweet, if it helps these are the ones I use currently: 

 

And I've used these in the past too (as far as I know these are GSPoses anims, as far as I know Gunslicer anims have open permission but not 100% sure about that):

 

17 hours ago, SNK_1 said:

That's what I was thinking too, but it's a bit difficult to achieve with the current system, and I can already foresee several problematic scenarios. That said, I'll probably try to implement something like that when I get back to work on this mod.

 

Figured it wouldn't be as easy. Still glad you'll try and hope everything goes well when you start working on it again.

Edited August 11, 2024 by jolyneHentai

[doomfangreal]

This looks like a great mod however I can't seem to get it to work no matter what I do, I can get it into my game however the key bind does nothing, also if there is suppose to be dialogue that appears after talking to someone that doesn't appear either, I am on version 1.6.640 and use a standard type keyboard when I press the hotkey no text appears as if it doesn't register, I've been trying for hours now can someone help me?   

[Finals6]

Unfortunately, the new version of P+ only supports 1.6.1170. Any other Skyrim versions are not supported. Hopefully in the future Sexcraft can be support for the SL Utility+ version, it is friendly to all AE versions.

Edited August 13, 2024 by Finals6

[Guest]

On 8/11/2024 at 8:46 AM, jolyneHentai said:

Sweet, if it helps these are the ones I use currently [...]

 

Thanks for the suggestion!

 

On 8/10/2024 at 6:11 PM, AzureAuriol said:

I don't suppose it would be possible to add the V0.0.8 file back to the downloads section, would it? Playing with Ordinator and made the mistake of upgrading before reading the fine print on the main page 😅

 

Thanks! I don't have the file anymore, but tried to recover it, kinda. Try with this:

 

Sexcraft_0.8.0.7z

 

I know that you know, but note that this version is very outdated compared to the most recent releases 😛 

Edited August 17, 2024 by SNK_1