Guest Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 30 minutes ago, Galc said: ...and this is the second reason I didn't trust the PoD team, people could tell this was going to happen a mile away. Again, the first reason was because I'd rather have feral pals stay feral when turned lewd. 39 minutes ago, Mhiggins said: Well, that was fast. Guess my previous comment about the monstergirl mod aiming for Patreon was pretty on point. Reveal hidden contents 'Ad-free content' and 'general support' are interesting rewards, as is the 'Digital Downloads' under the $5 tier. Guess the grift is starting early.
Guest Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 Phone is bugged, I cant tag correctly, I was trying to apologize but its not letting me type. Still those, this was a genuine oversight. I will rectify it by end of day.
Guest Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 Servers cost me 60 a month for people to play publicly. I genuinely care about my community and im sorry that it seems I dont... I really do...
Mhiggins Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Pals_Of_Desire said: I really do... You're falling into many of the classic pitfalls of 'western porn development' at the moment (along with the mod that started this thread for different reasons) and need to slow down and sort out your development plan and pipeline first and foremost. Is the Discord and Patreon for your servers? To fund the mod development? Both? Which members of your team are in charge of managing the patreon, the admining of the discord, the scheduling of your dev meetings? Setting aside my utter distain for Patreon and the choices of those who use it to fund adult stuff, I'll use it as an example of racing off while leaving your shoelaces untied. You say that someone else set up the Patreon, but did no one else in the dev team double check it before you went live? It might be one of the main point of interaction with potential supporters outside of your discord, and to fuck up the tiers like that is just shit. Hell, your 'about' tab is just straight copy-pasted from your OP on LL and it's even cut-off at the 'about the project' part: Spoiler With the absolute donkey-fuck that the two Discord-centric projects have gone through already, you have to be very, very careful that you don't mess it up further by getting so fixated on the creative side of things that you neglect basic project management practices. Instead of making a Patreon less than a week after the mod discord was made, get your team in order with assigned roles and responsibilities with an assigned hierarchy and assigned accountability. Anything 'official' that is public facing, be it a Discord announcement or a Patreon post, shouldn't be posted unless at least one other person in the mod team has reviewed it. If you want truly want your patreon to exist to support your server and dev team, then I suggest that you divorce it completely from the mod itself. Redesign it as a tipjar/donation platform for your server hosting and support, while having it known in your Discord that if people like the mod then they can toss money that way as an aside. Don't plaster it with Pals of Desire branding, and perhaps even try to keep it fairly clean (I.e don't post anything NSFW on the patreon itself). Or even better, and if you really need to crowdfund your server/dev costs, use a platform like Subscribstar instead that doesn't have an extensive track record of being hostile to R18 stuff. It's easy to complain about being bullied and targeted, but you have to keep in mind that for a lot of users here on LL and on other adult-gaming websites there's been a shit-ton of failed projects and broken promises, marred by devs who only show consistency when it comes to missing their deadlines and bloating out their project scope. Doubly so when patreon money gets involved. Slow your roll, sort out your team, establish your project plan and responsibilities (preferably using an established development framework) and then consider crowd funding. You're running a bloody furry porn mod project for Christ's sake, surely there's at least one gender-special programmer/software engineer on your team with striped long-socks who's done software development/project management before as part of their degree. Edited January 29, 2024 by Mhiggins 9
Guest Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 All ill say is this hun, i get it. But i do care about the integrity of the mod and for what its worth we do have models ready to import that we are testing before i stream them in game i just... yeah... i get it. Im just struggling... comunnity grew RAPIDLY and im trying really hard. The patreon was just a fun lil thing for people who wanted to give the artists what they felt confy with... the fact is 80% goes to them 20% goes to keeping servers up and i get nothing...
jeff159753 Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 using ID to join discord ? nope, you just grab that discord and shove it into the trash bin bc that is where it belong 3
ZackaBeee182 Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 (edited) The Discord server wants your ID to join it. That shit is against discord TOS, Report that garbage. If a massive influx of people is a huge problem for you, either A. Delete your discord and set up a twitter, because you clearly can't managed a discord server. B. Manage your discord better so you don't have to beg for someones goverment ID like a creep. C. Set up your discord as a progression/Updates only. (Literally one or two channels visible to the general public that shows progress updates & planned featuresr.) Edited January 29, 2024 by ZackaBeee182 6
missilver Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 20 hours ago, Jikala said: Personally, I lost a lot of faith in Palworld sex-modding when I started to see the humanoid models popping up. I was really just hoping that people would add genitals to the existing models and throw in sex animations when they defeat you/you do the “pet” action/are in the breeding farm. I get that feral content is definitely not most people’s thing, I’m just sick of people taking monster designs and turning them into a copy-paste anime girl model wearing a hat that vaguely ties them to the original design. No disrespect to the people working on these models, gijinka is just insanely annoying to me. I completely agree, the other mod team has basically said that they will make all pals anthrofied and now im cursed with the image of how immersion breaking and stupid will be a Lamball, Chikipi or the Relaxaurus will look. Hell if they want to make anthro models than stick to the anthro pals! Dont ruin a perfectly fine Nox because its not human enough! 8
Wolvie1 Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 I'll wait till an ad free solution is available for download here on LoversLab instead of giving my ID to you. Also, I have a question, and this may spark some 'controversy' and this is not my intention, but what is the reason why we are paying for 'server uptime'? I think most of us play these mods for singleplayer, no? Isnt this a singleplayer mod? 9
Suvera Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 don't bother with this mod. The author has started requesting government issued id's to access it. wait for someone else to make one
lsl Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 I think the most ironic thing about this whole ID ordeal is that they are making themselve even more liable than litteraly doing nothing. It's fascinating
souper Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 Oof a early dev split-off due to disagreements and now they apparently require ID to access that useless Discord server? This is going to be a slow collapse and I feel bad for all of the hopefuls who joined that server. Here's to hoping that the release of official modding tools will come with a rush of motivation to create an actually meaningful project rather than these vague piles of questions that aren't going anywhere beyond half-baked model screenshots. My heart goes out in particular to those modders and modders-to-be who end up burned out or want to stop/leave the community because of that mess. I hope you can regain the interest since such creativity never ceases to be amazing. 3
CrazySloth Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 So is there an actual sex mod for this game yet or is it just nude skins?
Algene Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 19 minutes ago, CrazySloth said: So is there an actual sex mod for this game yet or is it just nude skins? Just nude, currently there's a bit of a division on the community
Serelith Posted January 29, 2024 Posted January 29, 2024 Sorry to derail this topic again, but I feel this needs addressing. Opinion ahead: I hate the discourse around Palworld right now. We have a modder who is hellbent on their vision (which is alright, staying true to themselves and their team, until you realize that they're paving a way for everyone else with the frameworks they'll likely be making and as such their changes will be -difficult- to work around / reverse / whatever have you) - they make pretty things, have great ideas, but unfortunately these ideas only cater to a certain percentage of people and push away the others. Pals of Desire seems to be shaping up into a good mod, but it definitely isn't for everyone. Personally, it's not what I'm looking for. Then on the other side, we have a modder who stays more true to the source material... but, get this, is an absolute creep asking people for IDs, and whose server is a mess, from what I've heard. No work ethic, no progress because 'well it's early access, coding right now would be useless since things will change in the future' (I respect that mindset but if you want to gain followers and tinker around with what you can do in the game, you should try anyway and just fix it later in the release version. Put a disclaimer or something "this mod will probably break every update", instead of getting people up in arms about it.) Can't we just. I don't know. Have some sort of unified ground where the competent mod developers (like the people working with the author of the PoD thread) get together and tackle problems together?? Cooperation? Once the general animation framework is done, fork the two mods that aim to do around the same thing: one for more 'traditional' palworld models, and one with PoD models. OR optional downloads, so whoever doesn't want the ferals to be bipedal doesn't have to cope with it. That's leagues easier to accomplish. 4
Orlin189 Posted January 30, 2024 Author Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/21/2024 at 4:57 PM, srmateo1 said: Hi discord link is broken https://discord.gg/Palhub
Orlin189 Posted January 30, 2024 Author Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/28/2024 at 9:54 AM, Teroniss said: Seems like the Palworld lewd mod scene is fairly pozzed all around at the moment. Personally I would prefer feral mod, but even of Pals of Desire gets more traction, simply making lewd models without making animations for them breaks the whole premise imho. Conversely, you have a power hungry modder on the other end of the spectrum who doesn't seem to have any idea what they're doing. there will be a feral and an anthro mode that will change all pals to feral or anthro.
Orlin189 Posted January 30, 2024 Author Posted January 30, 2024 9 hours ago, missilver said: I completely agree, the other mod team has basically said that they will make all pals anthrofied and now im cursed with the image of how immersion breaking and stupid will be a Lamball, Chikipi or the Relaxaurus will look. Hell if they want to make anthro models than stick to the anthro pals! Dont ruin a perfectly fine Nox because its not human enough! our mod supports that. Join us https://discord.gg/Palhub
Orlin189 Posted January 30, 2024 Author Posted January 30, 2024 On 1/23/2024 at 6:26 AM, Blastradius1217 said: It says my invite has expired or is invalid. Can you fix the link? I have https://discord.gg/palhub
Orlin189 Posted January 30, 2024 Author Posted January 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Serelith said: Sorry to derail this topic again, but I feel this needs addressing. Opinion ahead: I hate the discourse around Palworld right now. We have a modder who is hellbent on their vision (which is alright, staying true to themselves and their team, until you realize that they're paving a way for everyone else with the frameworks they'll likely be making and as such their changes will be -difficult- to work around / reverse / whatever have you) - they make pretty things, have great ideas, but unfortunately these ideas only cater to a certain percentage of people and push away the others. Pals of Desire seems to be shaping up into a good mod, but it definitely isn't for everyone. Personally, it's not what I'm looking for. Then on the other side, we have a modder who stays more true to the source material... but, get this, is an absolute creep asking people for IDs, and whose server is a mess, from what I've heard. No work ethic, no progress because 'well it's early access, coding right now would be useless since things will change in the future' (I respect that mindset but if you want to gain followers and tinker around with what you can do in the game, you should try anyway and just fix it later in the release version. Put a disclaimer or something "this mod will probably break every update", instead of getting people up in arms about it.) Can't we just. I don't know. Have some sort of unified ground where the competent mod developers (like the people working with the author of the PoD thread) get together and tackle problems together?? Cooperation? Once the general animation framework is done, fork the two mods that aim to do around the same thing: one for more 'traditional' palworld models, and one with PoD models. OR optional downloads, so whoever doesn't want the ferals to be bipedal doesn't have to cope with it. That's leagues easier to accomplish. we plan to have it cater to almost every kink and there will be an extensive toggle list. There will also be 4 modes to the mod on world creation. Normie Mode - the authentic Palworld experience with all sex mod features and models disabled. Sex Mode - this mode will enable all the sex mod core systems and side systems. This will include a mix of both Anthro's and Ferals. Minimal modification to Pals. Feral Mode - this one is still unknown weather we can do it or not but the idea is that all Pals are feralized and sex models. Anthro mode - All Pals are Anthro and sex models.
lemonlord123 Posted January 30, 2024 Posted January 30, 2024 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Orlin189 said: we plan to have it cater to almost every kink and there will be an extensive toggle list. There will also be 4 modes to the mod on world creation. Normie Mode - the authentic Palworld experience with all sex mod features and models disabled. Sex Mode - this mode will enable all the sex mod core systems and side systems. This will include a mix of both Anthro's and Ferals. Minimal modification to Pals. Feral Mode - this one is still unknown weather we can do it or not but the idea is that all Pals are feralized and sex models. Anthro mode - All Pals are Anthro and sex models. mate unless you remove that ID check this mod is stunting its own development, literally shooting yourself in the foot and discouraging ppl from joining your dc. you have 1200+ ppl sitting in the verification channel, I imagine if you compare that to ppl actually in the server you'll quickly see the problem Edited January 30, 2024 by lemonlord123 8
Demonwise Posted January 30, 2024 Posted January 30, 2024 So I hopped over to the Palhub discord server out of morbid curiosity. Olin, I am not about to give you my id even if I tape over absolutely everything other than the birthdate. I will say this though, having read everyone's opinions and reading the message logs on the PalHub server I came up with a overarching question. Why? I mean why to everything concerning the whole discord server at all? Is there a reason why you would not want to post you content here? You came here to recruit interest, that much is obvious so why take the users off this site to your discord server? You said in your discord messages that you are doing this whole AgeGate government ID thing because your afraid of minors getting their hands on your content and then someone coming after you in real life to sue or some other legal issue. Here is the thing though, Olin also said that they are the one doing the verification of peoples' ids, not the moderators. Since that is the case it means that if a minor does get their hands on any content that you've made on and posted your server IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AND YOUR FAULT. Since you were the one that permitted entry to the minor because they likely duped you with a fake id or something else. In an effort to protect yourself from your fear of irl punishment, you have actually opened yourself up to MORE liability. Conversely, if you just posted your content here then it isn't your responsibility. You don't own LoversLab. You are not the admin/owner. LL has already accepted responsibility for their content and did what everyone else on the internet does and posts a legal disclaimer that to enter the site you must be 18 years or older. That's the age gate. If someone tries to subvert that age gate then it isn't LL's responsibility. LL can't police every underage liar on the internet. So the question is, WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO DO SO ON YOUR SERVER? Again, by doing what your doing you are actually taking on more responsibility and potentially more guilt if something ever does happen. To be clear, yes, I am a little salty over your agegate stuff on your server but that's it. Despite perhaps what you or anyone else thinks, I do not harbor any ill will towards you as a person or as a modder. I am actually quite happy that you and several others are making mods at all. I don't have the skill do any of that so I respect and am grateful to those who do and are also generous enough to share their creations with the community. So take everything I have said with a grain of salt and at the vary least please keep modding. 15
Thermite Dragon Posted January 30, 2024 Posted January 30, 2024 1 hour ago, Orlin189 said: we plan to have it cater to almost every kink and there will be an extensive toggle list. There will also be 4 modes to the mod on world creation. Normie Mode - the authentic Palworld experience with all sex mod features and models disabled. Sex Mode - this mode will enable all the sex mod core systems and side systems. This will include a mix of both Anthro's and Ferals. Minimal modification to Pals. Feral Mode - this one is still unknown weather we can do it or not but the idea is that all Pals are feralized and sex models. Anthro mode - All Pals are Anthro and sex models. And this is where I am now 100% certain this mod will never see the light of day, at least not as planned. Your scope for this mod is insane. Most H-Games you can buy don't feature as many custom 3d models and animations as this mod will require. 3
souper Posted January 30, 2024 Posted January 30, 2024 19 minutes ago, Thermite Dragon said: And this is where I am now 100% certain this mod will never see the light of day, at least not as planned. Your scope for this mod is insane. Most H-Games you can buy don't feature as many custom 3d models and animations as this mod will require. This is 100% my primary issue and gripe with this mod. The lead is taking EVERY feature request and putting it in the maybe-bin, and is making these insane claims when 90% of this is contingent on the game's devs releasing modding tools while there's still interest. The features list is insane, the dev credentials are non-existent, and the lead has already demonstrated themselves to be incapable of competent leadership let alone organization or assessment. I have seen nothing to indicate this has a chance to succeed and every chance to fail. The RIGHT path should have been to make a recruitment thread and assess feasibility INTERNALLY, and determine what's necessary to start, and drip-feed examples if they want to maintain public interest. Opening a public discord right off the bat is ruinous and I worry it might be worse than that. Fully expecting a convenient patreon to crop up with numbers hidden to "support development/maintenance costs" 4
Voltanis Posted January 30, 2024 Posted January 30, 2024 Feral on something like Skyrim was done and should be more controversial considering it's much more realistic. In this case it's extremely cartoon-ish monster designs and would be similar to Pokemon R34. If someone wants to turn every pal into an anime girl that's their right. But might I suggest you are probably modding the wrong game? Or just stick to human animations. 2
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