Palworld Sex Mod (Palhub)

[EternalWoe]

6 hours ago, RoopsDoo said:

They are literally asking for GOVERNMENT I.D's.  You can't do anything until you do.  This is illegal in general and also against Discord T.O.S.   They can STEAL your identity and see your address from your Goverment I.D.  This is CRAZY!  Report this Discord server and lets wipe it down.  Photo Attached!

Totally not sus at all I'm sure your information will be safely viewed and disposed of once they verify it. Don't be a moron and give anything identifying to complete randoms online. Shady shit like this is definitely report worthy, discord will be forced to take action if they get flooded with reports as I've seen it happen to countless servers before.

[skyrimmodder99]

it'd be so much more convenient if devs just moved to using twitter for updates instead of discord 

[Kelvryn]

Here, Pick one...

 

[Demonwise]

Lol, I like the third in the top row. Name: SPECIMEN. Totally an underrated name. Going to name all my kids SPECIMEN. Boy, girl, won't matter and the birth certificate will have it in all caps too. Just think, then the entire world can be judged in comparison to the greatness of my children. "My what a fine specimen!"  "Thank you sir, they are all great kids."  "Your so right. I wish we could all have such great SPECIMENS."

[hazerddex]

26 minutes ago, Kelvryn said:

Here, Pick one...

 

that is not the gotcha i'm sure you think it is.

 

you've essentially turned it into a Morton's fork

on the one hand if they only need the "DOB." then nothings stopping everyone from doing that. Which reinforces the point everyone's made about there being absolutely no good reason for the OP's demands for ID's.

on the flip side if they do prevent you from doing that then they are suspect for identity theft.

as some one else pointed out.

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So for shits and giggles I decided to use an old ID I had and blacked out everything but the DOB. I made sure you could still easily tell it was an ID but the only info you could glean from it was the DOB. Made sure to follow all the requirements as asked by the "bot" and was rejected for not enough info. They do literally want to see your info not just your DOB lol. This shit's dead in the water and everyone should steer clear. I did try to report the server but as far as I can tell Discord removed any and all ways to report a server.

 

Edited February 2, 2024 by hazerddex

[souper]

I don't have much hope for 2 projects that are constantly at each other's throats.

 

I am pleased to see some actual veterans independently taking a crack at this stuff and seeing some actual promising progress. There's hope! But it won't be found here...

Edited February 2, 2024 by souper

[Eidenz]

2 hours ago, EternalWoe said:

Totally not sus at all I'm sure your information will be safely viewed and disposed of once they verify it. Don't be a moron and give anything identifying to complete randoms online. Shady shit like this is definitely report worthy, discord will be forced to take action if they get flooded with reports as I've seen it happen to countless servers before.

 

The amount of people who don't know about AgeGate bot is quite impressive. This bot is not affiliated with them lol.

If you ever verified on another server with this bot (which I did long time ago for some VRChat), you get instant access because the bot verifies you on all servers it's on.

 

I believe the only thing that needs to be shown is your DoB. This is quite a useless check ngl, but at the same time there is no way this is a safety risk then.

 

Anyone is free to decide not to proceed, but there is nothing wrong here, there is the same checks on so many Patreon / NSFW servers. I don't know why everyone is freaking out here for Palworld stuff.

[Eidenz]

3 hours ago, Demonwise said:

Also to say nothing of the potential metadata that could be skimmed from the picture. Dependent upon the device you used to take the picture they could know your phone, your location as well as a number of other pieces of information that you really might not want someone to know.

 

Unrelated to the palhub subject, just to clarify things:
This is not possible, as Discord wipes EXIF data from photos uploaded on the platform. This could only be a problem if someone ask you to upload the picture on a dedicated platform outside Discord.

Edited February 2, 2024 by Eidenz

[Mhiggins]

1 minute ago, Eidenz said:

 

The amount of people who don't know about AgeGate bot is quite impressive. This bot is not affiliated with them lol.

 

How exactly do you think the verification process for this bot works? Do you think there's an AgeGate team, certified and paid, that check every ID sent to the bot for every server? For free? The bot takes your information and gives it to the server moderators to 'verify', and then marks you Discord account as 18+ for future checks based on their response. The only other method with minimum human involvement is sending in an ID with a picture, which machine learning will 'compare'. 

 

DOB combined with a username and potentially a list of servers someone is in can be very damaging, giving out your true DOB just to join a NSFW modding server is a very shit idea. 

[Yami X]

Honestly, I don't give a fuck what it (the Age Gate bot) does, under no circumstances should you be showing your ID to strangers, online you're just asking for a bad time.

[Eidenz]

5 minutes ago, Mhiggins said:

 

How exactly do you think the verification process for this bot works? Do you think there's an AgeGate team, certified and paid, that check every ID sent to the bot for every server? For free? The bot takes your information and gives it to the server moderators to 'verify', and then marks you Discord account as 18+ for future checks based on their response. The only other method with minimum human involvement is sending in an ID with a picture, which machine learning will 'compare'. 

 

DOB combined with a username and potentially a list of servers someone is in can be very damaging, giving out your true DOB just to join a NSFW modding server is a very shit idea. 

 

(unrelated to actual ID now for the following)

If you believe your DoB combined with a username is very damaging, the internet must be a very dangerous place to you knowing the amount of forums and websites showing that and the large amount of people/creators publicly showing it.

 

I'm not asking you to show your DoB to anyone, you do whatever you wish. That's the neat part.

 

However, being paranoid and wanting to take something down because you don't like their way of checking age is not a valid reason to me.

Edited February 2, 2024 by Eidenz

[plutori]

8 minutes ago, Eidenz said:

 

(unrelated to actual ID now for the following)

If you believe your DoB combined with a username is very damaging, the internet must be a very dangerous place to you knowing the amount of forums and websites showing that and the large amount of people/creators publicly showing it.

 

I'm not asking you to show your DoB to anyone, you do whatever you wish. That's the neat part.

 

However, being paranoid and wanting to take something down because you don't like their way of checking age is not a valid reason to me.

 

If it didn't impact anyone else and it was just Orlin's friend club as a discord server, there would be no issues and who cares.

The problem is he is forcibly introducing this (terrible) ID check while also trying to be a central figure in this modding area, and trying to draw in artists and modders in the scene while being behind this ID gating system.

 

So it's not just "We don't like it.", it's "If you want to participate in this modding scene based out of loverslab, you need to risk your personal identity to an unaffiliated sex mod discord moderator, who is not even competent, as showcased by his blatant ignoring of the many people explaining to him why this whole system is a bad idea in the first place.".

 

Orlin is not even competent enough to respond to criticisms in this thread, and you want me to trust my shit won't get leaked by him? Get real.

[Mhiggins]

3 minutes ago, Eidenz said:

If you believe your DoB combined with a username is very damaging, the internet must be a very dangerous place to you knowing the amount of forums and websites showing that and the large amount of people/creators publicly showing it.

 

People providing too much of their personal information across internet platforms is indeed a very large problem and a major cause of credential breeches. A DOB and username here, a username and an email there, an email, mobile phone number, and general area where you live on another... Some people on the internet are smart enough to use separate accounts and identities across different platforms, others are not.

 

The key point is that claiming that the AgeGate bot isn't affiliated with the Palhub server is wrong given that it works by passing the information to users in the discord server. They've added a bot that someone else has created, but all of the information passed to it goes directly to someone like GoonerSteve69. People aren't comfortable with that, and that's the correct stance to take in the matter from a security perspective. 

 

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wanting to take something down because you don't like their way of checking age is not a valid reason to me.

 

This however is something to agree with. Using report functions to try and take something down that you don't like and you're not forced to interact with is weak shit. If Palhub wants to use manual ID checking for whatever retarded reason and you don't want to give out your ID, then just don't and move on. 

[BunnyLove05]

Why does it matter if Minors want to look at ahe-gao and beastiality anyway. The year is 2024, Social Media is the platform, if a 12yr old child wants to look at pr0n, who is going to stop them?

Also side note...I think all "mountable pals" should be able to "mount the pc" I just want a Direhowl to bang my pc. There, got it out there. :3

[DoopiDoob]

58 minutes ago, Eidenz said:

 

(unrelated to actual ID now for the following)

If you believe your DoB combined with a username is very damaging, the internet must be a very dangerous place to you knowing the amount of forums and websites showing that and the large amount of people/creators publicly showing it.

 

I'm not asking you to show your DoB to anyone, you do whatever you wish. That's the neat part.

 

However, being paranoid and wanting to take something down because you don't like their way of checking age is not a valid reason to me.

Honestly AgeGate isn't a huge issue to me as long as it's allowing you to redact everything excluding the DOB. I do also understand that it's fairly unnecessary and a potential risk that doesn't really accomplish much of anything. The real issue is that AgeGate verification is handled by the admins of whatever server you're joining and in this case, the Palhub admins are currently rejecting submissions that follow AgeGate requirements and are demanding more personal info from your ID. 

[Eidenz]

2 minutes ago, DoopiDoob said:

Honestly AgeGate isn't a huge issue to me as long as it's allowing you to redact everything excluding the DOB. I do also understand that it's fairly unnecessary and a potential risk that doesn't really accomplish much of anything. The real issue is that AgeGate verification is handled by the admins of whatever server you're joining and in this case, the Palhub admins are currently rejecting submissions that follow AgeGate requirements and are demanding more personal info from your ID. 

 

That's a very fair point indeed if they ask more than they said (they say "we only need DoB", but since I got verified elsewhere I don't know if they follow their own rules).

 

All that makes me wonder if you could just, make your own server with the bot and verify yourself..

[Eidenz]

1 hour ago, Mhiggins said:

 

People providing too much of their personal information across internet platforms is indeed a very large problem and a major cause of credential breeches. A DOB and username here, a username and an email there, an email, mobile phone number, and general area where you live on another... Some people on the internet are smart enough to use separate accounts and identities across different platforms, others are not.

 

The key point is that claiming that the AgeGate bot isn't affiliated with the Palhub server is wrong given that it works by passing the information to users in the discord server. They've added a bot that someone else has created, but all of the information passed to it goes directly to someone like GoonerSteve69. People aren't comfortable with that, and that's the correct stance to take in the matter from a security perspective. 

 

 

This however is something to agree with. Using report functions to try and take something down that you don't like and you're not forced to interact with is weak shit. If Palhub wants to use manual ID checking for whatever retarded reason and you don't want to give out your ID, then just don't and move on. 

 

Gotta agree there.

 

I stretched my definition of "not affiliated" here due to being able to pass if you were verified elsewhere, but if not yeah it's definitely sending that to the server mods.

 

My posts were only about age gating discord servers though, not specific to palhub.

In a general way I'm with everyone here, this is both useless (easy to fake) and very stupid to hide your sex mod behind an ID verified discord when you can find lots of others on Nexus/Loverslab with a Google search.

Edited February 2, 2024 by Eidenz

[zileteh]

1 hour ago, Eidenz said:

 

Unrelated to the palhub subject, just to clarify things:
This is not possible, as Discord wipes EXIF data from photos uploaded on the platform. This could only be a problem if someone ask you to upload the picture on a dedicated platform outside Discord.

This is outdated information as of around august?? (don't quote me) last year. See also: Every stable diffusion discord. Exif data is used to store prompt information which is readily shared via uploading the original image on discord. If the image has additional data attached to it, it can and will be shared through discord unless it is intentionally stripped by the user.

[Eidenz]

5 minutes ago, zileteh said:

This is outdated information as of around august?? (don't quote me) last year. See also: Every stable diffusion discord. Exif data is used to store prompt information which is readily shared via uploading the original image on discord. If the image has additional data attached to it, it can and will be shared through discord unless it is intentionally stripped by the user.

 

Discord keep some metadata, but the classic EXIF (location, camera type, etc.) are still stripped.

 

It might have changed tho as someone was complaining on Reddit not having them anymore for AI content. So they may be removing all of it now, unsure.

Edited February 2, 2024 by Eidenz
wrong explanation of metadata

[zileteh]

Absolutely glossing over the verification issue entirely, is there even any CONTENT on that discord to see? OR are people bickering over access to an empty box? Will there ever be public releases on somewhere more mainstream so people can actually access the mods? EX on this very site that already hosts feral content in other forms (I'm looking at you skyrim)

The entire premise of "stop the kiddos from getting to feral content" is shutting the gate for a horse that has left the barn years ago.

Edited February 2, 2024 by zileteh

[Eidenz]

11 minutes ago, zileteh said:

Absolutely glossing over the verification issue entirely, is there even any CONTENT on that discord to see? OR are people bickering over access to an empty box?

 

I had a thorough look at it, it's empty af. And they barely share links to other content.

 

Currently, I'd say it's fully useless. I'm still there to see if they ever end up publishing something.

Edited February 2, 2024 by Eidenz
whole message quote unnecessary

[zileteh]

Awesome. Keep us posted lol.

I'm still rooting for someone to make content (anthro, furry, feral, more the merrier) it just might take a while for a project with some more stability to come up. It seems like a lot of the very talented people on the art side of things who make the content have a hard time dealing with the tsunami of often conflicting requests the userbase throws at them. "Make the tits bigger, make the tits smaller, make them loli, wheres the futa, give me anthro with animal genitalia, feral when", etc. can get overwhelming if you're not used to dealing with needy / entitled people on the internet.

Edited February 2, 2024 by zileteh

[LuckySebastian]

Lol considering I did do what they wanted and they still rejected me on the premise of 'blurred edges of id' (something I'm confident makes it more clear that its not been photoshopped into the frame with my user, as by no mean were it perfectly blurred edges.) I'm fairly confident in saying that they're full of shit or inconsistent, neither of which you want to trust with your ID. And yes, I'm the fool for trying, but in the end it was just a date of birth and my user and I give that out to every website, worst they could do is make some account somewhere else using my user which I exclusively use for discord to... what, spread a bad word about me?

[LittleDemonSan]

30 minutes ago, LuckySebastian said:

Lol considering I did do what they wanted and they still rejected me on the premise of 'blurred edges of id'...

Go cry

[IceBlazeWinters]

5 hours ago, Eidenz said:

 

The amount of people who don't know about AgeGate bot is quite impressive. This bot is not affiliated with them lol.

If you ever verified on another server with this bot (which I did long time ago for some VRChat), you get instant access because the bot verifies you on all servers it's on.

 

I believe the only thing that needs to be shown is your DoB. This is quite a useless check ngl, but at the same time there is no way this is a safety risk then.

 

Anyone is free to decide not to proceed, but there is nothing wrong here, there is the same checks on so many Patreon / NSFW servers. I don't know why everyone is freaking out here for Palworld stuff.

i showed my date of birth, and ONLY my date of birth, still got denied access