SexLab Hormones (January 2025)

[Chroom22]

40 minutes ago, Fuzzy_Fox said:

No the curse becomes permanent about 15 days once you fully become a woman.  So roughly two weeks in game. But this is all dependent on the bimbo hormone level. 

 

You will get a pop up message saying "The curse has rewired your brain to such an extent it is now not possible to cure." 

Really? I've been playing a bimbo for a while now. Thanks for the heads up.

 

So we're not at the point where curing yourself will revert the changes I mentioned? The only way I would know how to do that would be to uninstall/reinstall the mod and edit race menu.

[Fuzzy_Fox]

4 hours ago, Chroom22 said:

Really? I've been playing a bimbo for a while now. Thanks for the heads up.

 

So we're not at the point where curing yourself will revert the changes I mentioned? The only way I would know how to do that would be to uninstall/reinstall the mod and edit race menu.

If the curse is permanent then you can't get rid of the changes. Otherwise you can cure yourself with a daedra heart and give it to an outcast. 

[LinksSword]

I think as a consequence from being fully transformed after 2 weeks as a bimbo right after the your brain has been rewired message if possible your arousal from sexlab aroused should be minimum capped at 50% so no matter what it will never go below 50.

 

And throw some big earring hoops on as a final tf feature too when yps is in use.

 

[Balgin]

25 minutes ago, LinksSword said:

And throw some big earring hoops on as a final tf feature too when yps is in use.

Ah yes but are you talking svs big gold hoops or the hdt hoop earrings? The problem with the hdt hoops is that they are set so far apart and so low that they don't actually connect with most normal ear positions and you need to go and modify the ears in racemenu or have long enough hair that you can't see the massive gaps between the earrings and both ears.

[LinksSword]

26 minutes ago, Balgin said:

Ah yes but are you talking svs big gold hoops or the hdt hoop earrings? The problem with the hdt hoops is that they are set so far apart and so low that they don't actually connect with most normal ear positions and you need to go and modify the ears in racemenu or have long enough hair that you can't see the massive gaps between the earrings and both ears.

Just the regular ones i would be wary of hdt clothing tbh, Since as you said the position can get out of wack.

[Balgin]

Well regardless of which ones you choose, the giant earrings that could double as bracelets really complete the bimbo look.

[Chroom22]

20 hours ago, Fuzzy_Fox said:

If the curse is permanent then you can't get rid of the changes. Otherwise you can cure yourself with a daedra heart and give it to an outcast. 

Yea but my character still has blond hair, tattoo's and increased breast size when I gave him the heart before it was permanent. The stat reductions are the only thing back to normal.

[Balgin]

29 minutes ago, Chroom22 said:

Yea but my character still has blond hair, tattoo's and increased breast size when I gave him the heart before it was permanent. The stat reductions are the only thing back to normal.

Are you using YPS? If so under hair options have you selected hair dye grows out (really slowly)? If so then you're looking at about 3 weeks before you can dye your hair a different colour (msm configurable) or about 6 to 9 months if you want it to eventually revert to it's natural colour. Of course you can always cut away the dyed hair as uncoloured hair grows back and eventually you'll get your normal colour (depending on how quickly you set the hair to grow in yps's mcm or you could console cheat yourself the hair growth potion, drink that, gain maximum length hair then cut it shorter so as to get a a headstart on the natural hair colour regrowth). If you Don't have hair dye grows out selected then (msm configurable) you've got about 3 weeks 'til the dye begins to fade (and it will fade over a 2 week period which is, again, msm configurable).

 

Changing the hair dye settings in the msm now won't help too much. The settings are important when the dye is applied. Changing them later allows you to cheat the system a bit but it reverts if you change the settings back afterwards so it's best to wait one dye out before changing the hair settings. In the case of Hormones, hair dye will be considered to have been freshly applied at the point when you removed the curse as opposed to it's initial application.

 

If you're not using yps then I'm not sure why the hair colour is still blonde. As for the tattoos you'd need to remove them manually with slavetats. They don't get automatically removed. Bigger boobs should decrease over time. You'll have to go a few days without sex before the body will begin to revert to it's normal state but you probably had enough of that as a bimbo to last you for a jolly good while. Probably.

 

If you're not sure if you're suing YPS or not you might know it by it's other name: Immersive Piercing and High Heels training.

[Chroom22]

3 minutes ago, Balgin said:

Are you using YPS? If so under hair options have you selected hair dye grows out (really slowly)? If so then you're looking at about 3 weeks before you can dye your hair a different colour (msm configurable) or about 6 to 9 months if you want it to eventually revert to it's natural colour. If you Don't have hair dye grows out selected then (msm configurable) you've got about 3 weeks 'til the dye begins to fade (and it will fade over a 2 week period which is, again, msm configurable).

 

Changing the hair dye settings in the msm now won't help too much. The settings are important when the dye is applied. Changing them later allows you to cheat the system a bit but it reverts if you change the settings back afterwards so it's best to wait one dye out before changing the hair settings.

 

If you're not using yps then I'm not sure why the hair colour is still blonde. As for the tattoos you'd need to remove them manually with slavetats. They don't get automatically removed. Bigger boobs should decrease over time. You'll have to go a few days without sex before the body will begin to revert to it's normal state but you probably had enough of that as a bimbo to last you for a jolly good while. Probably.

Ahh ok. I'll screw around with YPS and make sure this is the case. Any reason my characters hair isn't gradually turning blond? It just goes full platinum blond the second they get the curse. Also will my characters breast size reduce over time? Or is that permanent even if the bimbo curse isn't at the final stage?

 

Either way thanks for the info. Understanding mods is easy but understanding how they function together is annoying.

[Balgin]

55 minutes ago, Chroom22 said:

Any reason my characters hair isn't gradually turning blond? It just goes full platinum blond the second they get the curse.

YPS doesn't handle the application of hair dye gradually. It's applied straight away all in one and then it fades. It doesn't reverse fade, if you know what I mean.

 

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Also will my characters breast size reduce over time? Or is that permanent even if the bimbo curse isn't at the final stage?

Hormones is something like "if you haven't had sex for 2 or 3 days then your body starts to revert back to normal". Again this is configurable in the Hormones mcm. There's 2 values you want to look at. One is the amount of sex acts in a single day required to make the body change based on the kinds of sex you were having. This is set to 3 by default but can be as low as 2. The second is the amount of days with no sexual activity required before the body begins to reverse these changes. Essentially changes gained through sexual activity stick around for a few days before fading away.

 

Also how did you manage to get the body to change? I'm using Beeing Female, YPS, Hormones and literally nothing else that I can think of that should be controlling the player's body shape but I've tinkered with the mcm options and have yet to successfully change a body. I've managed to see the morphing apply to garments as if the body underneath is changing but as soon as those are removed the default body shape is back afterwards again. It's really quite bizarre. Been going on like this for weeks now.

[Chroom22]

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YPS doesn't handle the application of hair dye gradually. It's applied straight away all in one and then it fades.

Is there something I can do in the MCM to get rid of this?

 

3 hours ago, Balgin said:

Hormones is something like "if you haven't had sex for 2 or 3 days then your body starts to revert back to normal". Again this is configurable in the Hormones mcm. There's 2 values you want to look at. One is the amount of sex acts in a single day required to make the body change based on the kinds of sex you were having. This is set to 3 by default but can be as low as 2. The second is the amount of days with no sexual activity required before the body begins to reverse these changes. Essentially changes gained through sexual activity stick around for a few days before fading away.

I checked the disable hair color control option in the YPS settings. That may fix it. I'll update this post to confirm if this works when I can get around to it. Disabling the feature makes my characters hair remain the color it is with no change. I decided to remove YPS entirely and the hair didn't grow as well as not change. So basically there's no way for a "gradual" hair color change as far as I can tell.

 

The only reason I use the mod is for the Bimbo and Futa options though so I set the "Breast Swell", "Belly Swell", and "Butt Swell" Modifier to 0 so none of them could change through excessive sex. Do those settings also apply to reverting back to normal? I feel like the Bimbo mod expands the breasts but not through the Hormones swell system so I might be unable to have them reduce unless I enable them in the swell sliders.

 

3 hours ago, Balgin said:

I've managed to see the morphing apply to garments as if the body underneath is changing but as soon as those are removed the default body shape is back afterwards again. It's really quite bizarre. Been going on like this for weeks now. 

So the clothing is expanding but the body behind them isn't? Obviously LOOT it just to make sure if you haven't already. If that isn't it then it might be an issue with whatever body mod your using. You might have Bodyslider for clothing/armor working right but there might be an issue with your actual characters body. I use cosioHD for example, so whatever you're using i would try and see if you have all the required mods for whatever you're using installed and functional. Though I'm pretty dumb with modding this game so this might be worth making a troubleshoot thread with your load order posted if you can't figure it out. Only other possibilities I can thing of is SLIF being buggy as it tends to be. Also be careful with Beeing female. You can't uninstall it and continue your game. You have to start a new one which means editing your MCM menus all over again.

[DeepBlueFrog]

I don't record the original hair color at this point, so I don't have a way to revert back after the curse is lifted. 

In my mind, that was an after effect of the cure - the main effects should be fixed but some effects remain as a reminder that you were once a bimbo.

 

You should be able to get a hair color applied through YPS dialogue although that is treated as a color treatment and the color will wash out after a while.

[wardrake]

I am playing a male character, I have all but the sex change curse disabled, I got the boobs and slit message box, got the race menu window, (body remained male)(didn't move slider to female). Got the ask about the bimbo curse (again - all but sexchange is disabled), but no dialog was there when I spoke to the outcast, is there certain npc's that tell you (give that dialog) ?.  When I tried this out for the first time and my male changed sex, I got the forcibly blonde quest. I managed to go through the quest and got my gender reversed, (fluked on getting the quest) it remained in the active quest log. Also is the sex change meant to be spontaneous or an over time effect. 

I would like to see a transition of the sex change - this I know is easier said then done (I am no Modder).

For example - You have your start gender (say male), then it moves to a femboy like body, then add breasts (the shemale body), then to the final gender (female) or vise versa. You could move the progression, after a few days, it moves to stage two (with or without sex acts) which would speed up the change), then again for stage three, yes again for the final change. However getting the body to swap without going into race menu becomes the issue.

I seen the femboy  here, didn't like the looks of it, to big butted for me.

Are you going to add other means to activate other effects of the mod like the sex change or trans gender other then it is now. if so a potion, drink or food is a good activator. Why not use - You feel strange, a tingling sensation washes over you. instead of the boobs and slit you have currently (this is only a suggestion, please don't think I'm criticizing your work, I like this mod, waiting for next lvl update. 

[Fuzzy_Fox]

2 hours ago, wardrake said:

I am playing a male character, I have all but the sex change curse disabled, I got the boobs and slit message box, got the race menu window, (body remained male)(didn't move slider to female). Got the ask about the bimbo curse (again - all but sexchange is disabled), but no dialog was there when I spoke to the outcast, is there certain npc's that tell you (give that dialog) ?.  When I tried this out for the first time and my male changed sex, I got the forcibly blonde quest. I managed to go through the quest and got my gender reversed, (fluked on getting the quest) it remained in the active quest log. Also is the sex change meant to be spontaneous or an over time effect. 

I would like to see a transition of the sex change - this I know is easier said then done (I am no Modder).

For example - You have your start gender (say male), then it moves to a femboy like body, then add breasts (the shemale body), then to the final gender (female) or vise versa. You could move the progression, after a few days, it moves to stage two (with or without sex acts) which would speed up the change), then again for stage three, yes again for the final change. However getting the body to swap without going into race menu becomes the issue.

I seen the femboy  here, didn't like the looks of it, to big butted for me.

Are you going to add other means to activate other effects of the mod like the sex change or trans gender other then it is now. if so a potion, drink or food is a good activator. Why not use - You feel strange, a tingling sensation washes over you. instead of the boobs and slit you have currently (this is only a suggestion, please don't think I'm criticizing your work, I like this mod, waiting for next lvl update. 

Due to the way skeletons work and the meshes in Skyrim. I don't think its possible to have the kind of transition you are looking for. 

 

You could possibly set the weight slider for the female body to minimum and then let Hormones increase the weight over time I suppose. You can get mods that will shrink your schlong though as I have that working. 

[DeepBlueFrog]

19 hours ago, Fuzzy_Fox said:

Due to the way skeletons work and the meshes in Skyrim. I don't think its possible to have the kind of transition you are looking for. 

 

You could possibly set the weight slider for the female body to minimum and then let Hormones increase the weight over time I suppose. You can get mods that will shrink your schlong though as I have that working. 

The only way this could be done is if someone created a male mesh compatible with a female skeleton... or maybe a female mesh compatible with male head, hands and feet. 

 

Unfortunately, I am not good enough with Blender or other graphic tools to do either of those things.

 

[wardrake]

19 hours ago, Fuzzy_Fox said:

Due to the way skeletons work and the meshes in Skyrim. I don't think its possible to have the kind of transition you are looking for. 

 

You could possibly set the weight slider for the female body to minimum and then let Hormones increase the weight over time I suppose. You can get mods that will shrink your schlong though as I have that working. 

Would be nice anyway to have such a transition, guess it is hard to tell the game that this M/F 0/1 body is M/F body 2, body 3 after x amount of time.

Since your not modifying weight. As your suggesting, How do you tell the game that after x days or activities to use skeleton 2 and three.

Doesn't the werewolf/Vampire lord have their own skeletons ?

What about having it as a mesh adjustment, Or is that a texture thing(nude body only) but would SOS be a problem ?) could it be possible to do that, (again I'm no Modder, so I don't know if that would work). 

Also - (You can get mods that will shrink your schlong though as I have that working). WHAT !!!!?? what mods, mind if I ask 

[DeepBlueFrog]

1 hour ago, wardrake said:

Would be nice anyway to have such a transition, guess it is hard to tell the game that this M/F 0/1 body is M/F body 2, body 3 after x amount of time.

Since your not modifying weight. As your suggesting, How do you tell the game that after x days or activities to use skeleton 2 and three.

Doesn't the werewolf/Vampire lord have their own skeletons ?

What about having it as a mesh adjustment, Or is that a texture thing(nude body only) but would SOS be a problem ?) could it be possible to do that, (again I'm no Modder, so I don't know if that would work). 

Also - (You can get mods that will shrink your schlong though as I have that working). WHAT !!!!?? what mods, mind if I ask 

Hormones will shrink or grow your Schlong based on your sexual activity.

[Warmsusu1995]

I cant seem to get my belly to move I use everything cbbe and everything else works just not the belly

[Fuzzy_Fox]

14 hours ago, wardrake said:

Would be nice anyway to have such a transition, guess it is hard to tell the game that this M/F 0/1 body is M/F body 2, body 3 after x amount of time.

Since your not modifying weight. As your suggesting, How do you tell the game that after x days or activities to use skeleton 2 and three.

Doesn't the werewolf/Vampire lord have their own skeletons ?

What about having it as a mesh adjustment, Or is that a texture thing(nude body only) but would SOS be a problem ?) could it be possible to do that, (again I'm no Modder, so I don't know if that would work). 

Also - (You can get mods that will shrink your schlong though as I have that working). WHAT !!!!?? what mods, mind if I ask 

Vampires and Werewolf do have their own skeletons, which is why they are stuck with what type of meshs people can mod. 

 

Like DeepBlueFrog said above Hormones does shrink your schlong as you go without sex as a man, or makes it grow if you have some sex. Same with boobs, belly and bum in the female body. 

 

 

[wardrake]

Ok, I see, thanks to the both of you. Now to find out what to put the settings on. Time to test !.

DeepBlueFrog is sex with dreamora the only way to active Sex change or are you going to have something else be an activator in future versions ?

[LinksSword]

I wish tripping worked when naked.

[LinksSword]

one thing i would like to see in future updates is a more difficult combat when your a full fledged bimbo, yes you can drop weapons and trip when in combat but it should only happen when aroused somewhere around 50% arousal and the high the percentage the higher the chance, And especially when you are very aroused as in combat would be impossible if not almost at 100% arousal level, Because logically the pc would be focused on one thing only getting off and at that point her focus would be a absolute wreck until her arousal goes down. Another thing that would be nice for immersion would be when you are significantly aroused you have a chance to randomly touch yourself when idle, a little animation would play of you touching your breast or clit or if you have a dick you know.

[w234aew]

I like the added options for skin and hair control, but it would really be helpful if there was an option to turn off permanent hair length for a fully transformed bimbo. The other transformations being permanent (even the hair color) are preferred, but even if you reassign custom hairs in YPS to the permanent length, they're always wiped during a bimbo state update (12:00 AM in-game) and set to the default hairstyle. Plus, I think it will improve things if Hormones doesn't have a conflict between the Bimbo transformation and shaving in SD+. If the reason is that natural hair color is being dyed and would thus still disappear with hair growth, it would be worth looking into the code for the "Potion of Natural Hair Color Change" from YPS which changes the natural hair color, not a dye.

[Fuzzy_Fox]

4 hours ago, w234aew said:

I like the added options for skin and hair control, but it would really be helpful if there was an option to turn off permanent hair length for a fully transformed bimbo. The other transformations being permanent (even the hair color) are preferred, but even if you reassign custom hairs in YPS to the permanent length, they're always wiped during a bimbo state update (12:00 AM in-game) and set to the default hairstyle. Plus, I think it will improve things if Hormones doesn't have a conflict between the Bimbo transformation and shaving in SD+. If the reason is that natural hair color is being dyed and would thus still disappear with hair growth, it would be worth looking into the code for the "Potion of Natural Hair Color Change" from YPS which changes the natural hair color, not a dye.

 

Ah this is probably why when Sanguine changes my hair colour to red like the other Alicias it goes back to being blond when I am a bimbo at midnight. 

 

I also think that when Sanguine forces the player to change into a woman during the Truth quest the yps permanent potion of feminization should also be force fed to the player instead of calling for the racemenu. OR use the script from yps. 

This would stop players from changing sex back to being a man after the quest. 

[wardrake]

11 hours ago, Fuzzy_Fox said:

 

Ah this is probably why when Sanguine changes my hair colour to red like the other Alicias it goes back to being blond when I am a bimbo at midnight. 

 

I also think that when Sanguine forces the player to change into a woman during the Truth quest the yps permanent potion of feminization should also be force fed to the player instead of calling for the racemenu. OR use the script from yps. 

This would stop players from changing sex back to being a man after the quest. 

The truth quest, is that part of hormones ? do you mean that once given the potion of feminization, there would be no way to undo it (like giving a deadra heart to change back). or very permanent like you can't do any thing (doing a quest to swap genders) ?