What is your favorite defeat mod and why? (long-time player)

[Seeker999]

Pretty much as the title says. I've been playing Skyrim since Legendary Edition first came out, and I've tried a lot of different mods. I've used Death Alternative in some playthroughs and Sexlab Defeat (different iterations) in others. I've tried a few others and looked at some that I haven't tried, but so far I've pretty much settled on Naked Dungeons.

 

Why do I like Naked Dungeons? It is a bit creaky with age, but I like it because:

• It's fairly small in scope. Or maybe focused is a better word. Sure, dungeons can be trapped (hence the name) with different outcomes, and there is a crime penalty for nudity if you toggle it. However, combat defeat is not limited to dungeons - get knocked down and there's a chance for 'wham, bam, thank you ma'am' before you can get away.
• It's pretty reliable, and stable - really important with Skyrim modding
• I don't think there are many conflicts
• In the MCM there's a toggle to turn it off. Convenient when you're on a particular quest and just can't be interrupted with a trap and the consequences thereof.
• Not a lot of messages on screen. Sometimes I can't read them because they're too small or they're annoyingly bold. Or they're not up long enough to read. I even installed a mod that records all those messages so I can open it and check what I missed.

 

Those are the pros. Now for the cons:

• When you trigger a trap, there's a lot of downtime. The screen is dark and you may or may not hear anything. Maybe it's long for me because I have a lot of inventory (I always increase my carry weight a lot so end up w/ tons of stuff) and the mod strips me and removes all my non-quest stuff. Which, between weightless ingredients and carry weight, can mean hundreds of items to process. I sometimes open and close the console hoping that will speed up the process. Maybe it works, or maybe it's a placebo affect.
• A shaved head can be one outcome, and I had to install a patch that makes the hair regrow to the [modded] hairstyle I had before shaving
• If you set a possibility for followers to get stripped, they may lose their stuff permanently. Always save before entering a dungeon!!

 

I'm interested in what you are using and why you like it/them.

Edited December 5, 2024 by Seeker999

[Someone92]

Acheron + Practical Defeat + Other addons

 

It receives regular updates, and PD offers pretty much all outcomes I want, will feature them in the future, or I will eventually create an addon with the outcome(s) I want to see myself.

[Varithina]

I have played around with most of them, like yourself, the current one I am playing around with is battle fuck, but to be honest it seems to be a pain to get working, as I have yet to have it trigger, even with its default settings it tends to do nothing which means constant reload screens when killed, which is getting me annoyed enough to more than likely go sod it and remove it from my mod list.

 

Naked Dungeons is one I have played around with but that was some time ago, and to be honest having it trigger on entrance to a dungeon you can not leave as it is a quest locations is annoying as hell.

 

Honestly most of the defeat mods seem to be sluggish as hell in most cases, and do not work too well if you have additional hostiles after they have triggered with your current one, example being if you fight some bandits defeat triggers, pacifism and non combat set in on you and them,  you sit their waiting for it to work, problem is some of those bandits got close enough to some wolves to set them to hostile, said wolves then rampage amongst the now passive bandits killing them, leaving you sat their going ho hum, while waiting for the defeat mod to actually do something, with the now dead bandits, while possibly having hostile wolves nibbling on your character while being able to do squat about it, as the scripts are still running for the bandits initial trigger of defeat.

 

I mostly gave up on them all, as it is a damn sight quicker to just get into the habit of making regular manual saves and just reloading, rather than waiting for whichever defeat mod to get off its arse and do something.

[decaluka]

All the Defeat mods I've tried ended up breaking or glitching out at one point or another. With Defeat, the most common problem is enemies kicking me down, then switching targets to some random NPC or animal that just happened to be nearby, which was really annoying.

 

 

So I use SexLab Yet Another Combat Rape which is rather basic. Get assaulted under a certain threeshold of health or if hit, and you get the option to resist, call for help or do nothing. It works well in my experience though it doesn't have a lot of features. There's also a version for followers.

[Someone92]

On 11/25/2023 at 2:55 PM, decaluka said:

All the Defeat mods I've tried ended up breaking or glitching out at one point or another.

You could try Acheron. Currently the developer is looking for people that manage to break it and provide log files so they can fix them.

[DonQuiWho]

Bane Masters version 5.3.6 - see link at bottom

 

Bit of a hidden gem, as it's not got its own mod page

 

But it's fully featured, has corrected all that was wrong with the initial 5.3.5, is continually supported and updated regularly - latest version is 2311118 - and most recent posts from others on that thread rate it well.  It also plugs nicely into other mods, eg Simple Slavery, and it runs nicely into Bane's own FSM too

 

 

5.3.6

 

[TheVolcanoGodess]

Not quite a defeat mod, but I remember seeing Animations from that theme from Psyche. It can pair pretty well with the defeat mods since it's got that really hardcore nature. 

[FauxFurry]

That would still be Sexlab Leveling mainly due to its simplicity and functionality as it grants points for special perks for sex acts and bonuses for specific sex acts which given characters or character types.

 

[r3mind]

I've tried many different mods and settings, but in the last playthrough went back to Defeat by Baka simply because of the amount of options I can configure. The main feature I like is getting knocked down by power attacks (even at full hp) which makes a lot of sense. Struggle animations are very well done too. Basically for me it just works and has more features than other mods, except mid-combat defeat when your followers are still fighting, but I always had issues with this scenario + with my combat mods my followers eaither quickly win or qickly lose anyway^^

[Seeker999]

My next pt will be sse 1.6.1170, everything should be updated by then. Actually, the mods I use are probably already updated now but I'm not ready to be done with my current game. I think I'll try Bane Master's most recent update to Sexlab Defeat.

BTW, Naked Dungeons is working on SSE 1.6.1130. I won't use defeat mods that allow me to die because of too many other mods that might get messed up. Besides, I'm a prime looker - who would rather kill me than use me? 😉

[DonQuiWho]

8 hours ago, Seeker999 said:

My next pt will be sse 1.6.1170, everything should be updated by then. Actually, the mods I use are probably already updated now but I'm not ready to be done with my current game. I think I'll try Bane Master's most recent update to Sexlab Defeat.

BTW, Naked Dungeons is working on SSE 1.6.1130. I won't use defeat mods that allow me to die because of too many other mods that might get messed up. Besides, I'm a prime looker - who would rather kill me than use me? 😉

 

You might want to include the addons, ie AndrewLRG's patch asnd FSM, Bane's Follower Slavery Mod

 

They make for quite a bit of additional entertainment 😛

 

DQW

[Seeker999]

I finished my pt in Dec. (that was a 12 month pt) and decided to try a few mods before updating to .1170. I knew they would all be a big risk, but there you go. Anyway, while I was experimenting I decided to try Acheron, Practical Defeat, etc. Not my cup of tea. I made myself essential to see if it would break anything. Don't think so, and I disabled kill moves anyway. Yeah, I had some configuration issues, but the biggest thing for me was the onscreen clutter and extra to-do's. By this I mean the npc's who were defeated and not killed. Going around, targeting them in console to see if they were friendly or not (I use mods that add a bunch of friendlies as well as baddies), then deciding what I was going to do to/with them .... for me that's a hard no.

 

On to upgrading my game and trying Bane Master defeat.

[belegost]

Bane's Defeat is best, hands down. I've tried many, but always come back to it.

[belegost]

Go here for in-depth discussion of available options:

 

[Dorabella]

https://www.loverslab.com/files/file/24430-yamete-redux/

 

If the enemy survives , we're going to get fucked 😁

[Seeker999]

Thanks, @belegost, I found that thread very interesting.

As I said earlier, my default defeat mod has been Naked Dungeons - forgot to mention that I couple that with Deviously Helpless and Deviously Enchanted Chests, haha.

Anyway, this time I am using @Bane Master's SL Defeat plus the patch by LRG. I am also trying their FSM mod. Configuring some of the settings will be tricky, but that's frequently the case, isn't it? Will update this post later after things settle down to where I want them. Will that ever happen?

[Seeker999]

After a couple of false starts, I got my game going and am 46 levels and 256 hours in. If you're interested, these are the mods I'm using: 

• Dynamic Defeat LRG patch v. 1.6.3
• Sexlab Defeat SSE by Bane Master v. 5.3.6 06082024
• Naked Dungeons - converted oldrim mod v. 2.0.1 + Hair Growth Fix

along with these. I'm only mentioning them because they can contribute a lot to general battle scenarios and result in a lot going on.:

• Crowd Control v. 0.0.1
• Deviously Enchanted Chests v. 3.215
• Deviously Helpless Redux v. 1.1
• Follower Slavery Mod (FSM) v. 1.71 (not much has happened with it yet)
• Populated Cities Towns Villages SE Edition v. 4.3
• Populated Lands Roads Paths for SE v. 3.5
• SD - Cages v. 3.159.3
• Skyrim Chain Beasts SE/AE/VR v. 0.9.5 - trying it out, I like it.
• OBIS SE - Organized Bandits In Skyrim Special Edition v. 2.76
• OBIS SE Patrols Addon v. 2.5

• Spectator Crowds Ultra Edition v. 0.99 beta 6

Have there been CTD's? Yes. Over 30 so far. However, I expected them. Not only because it's Skyrim but also because I knew that between these and other mods I have, there might be too much to handle at one time. I don't really understand the crash logs or papyrus very well, but I think most of them are indicating just that. Certainly no one mod is singled out. I save often, regularly cull saves, and periodically use Resaver to check for orphan scripts and 

NetImmerse Override Cleaner SE to clean my skse saves of some bloat. 

Sometimes I am defeated via SL Defeat and sometime via Naked Dungeons. I kind of like not knowing which. Putting my settings behind a spoiler, if anyone is interested.

Spoiler

SL Defeat

Spoiler

Naked Dungeons

Spoiler

 

 

I disabled followers from Defeat's NPC v NPC because I wanted to see if that had any affect on the load. Not sure that it does. I also did it because NPC v NPC isn't supposed to be working well according to the mod page. I'm not sure what isn't working because it seems to be ok. That might be just the parts I see. Maybe I'll re-enable followers. I don't know. I tend to roleplay that I'm keeping some baddies occupied while my followers (Brelyna Maryon, Buttons, Erik the Slayer, Farkas, Inigo, Kaidan, Lucien, Raindrop, Roggi Knot-Beard, Snowball, Thorald Gray-Mane and Vilkas) deal with the rest. Or at least some of them.

 

Anyway, that's where things stand.

Edited June 30, 2025 by Seeker999

[coco32167]

On 7/1/2025 at 12:10 AM, Seeker999 said:

在经历了几次错误的开始之后，我开始了我的游戏，已经完成了 46 个关卡和 256 个小时。如果您有兴趣，这些是我正在使用的模组：

• 
  动态击败 LRG 补丁 v. 1.6.3
• 
  Sexlab 击败 SSE by Bane Master v. 5.3.6 06082024
• 
  裸体地下城 - 转换后的 oldrim mod v. 2.0.1 + 头发生长修复

连同这些。我之所以提到它们，只是因为它们可以为一般战斗场景做出很多贡献并导致很多事情发生。

• 
  人群控制 v. 0.0.1
• 
  狡猾的魔法宝箱 v. 3.215
• 
  狡猾的无助 Redux v. 1.1
• 
  追随者奴隶制 Mod （FSM） v. 1.71（目前还没有发生太多事情）
• 
  人口稠密的城市 城镇 村庄 SE 版 v. 4.3
• 
  SE v. 3.5 的人口稠密的土地道路路径
• 
  SD - 笼子 v. 3.159.3
• 
  Skyrim Chain Beasts SE/AE/VR v. 0.9.5 - 尝试一下，我喜欢它。
• 
  OBIS SE - 《天际》特别版中的有组织强盗 v. 2.76
• 
  OBIS SE 巡逻插件 v. 2.5

• Spectator Crowds Ultra Edition v. 0.99 beta 6

有没有 CTD？是的。到目前为止，已经超过 30 个。然而，我预料到了他们。不仅因为它是《天际》，还因为我知道在这些模组和我拥有的其他模组之间，一次可能有太多东西需要处理。我不太了解崩溃日志或纸莎草纸，但我认为它们中的大多数都表明了这一点。当然，没有一个模组是被挑出来的。我经常保存，定期剔除保存，并定期使用 Resaver 检查孤立脚本和

NetImmerse Override Cleaner SE 清理我的 skse 保存中的一些臃肿。

有时我通过 SL Defeat 被击败，有时通过 Naked Dungeons 被击败。我有点喜欢不知道是哪一个。如果有人感兴趣的话，将我的设置放在剧透后面。

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SL 失败

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裸体地下城

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我禁用了 Defeat 的 NPC v NPC 的追随者，因为我想看看这是否对负载有任何影响。不确定是否如此。我这样做也是因为根据模组页面，NPC v NPC 不应该很好地工作。我不确定什么不起作用，因为它似乎没问题。这可能只是我看到的部分。也许我会重新启用追随者。我不知道。我倾向于进行角色扮演，让一些坏人忙碌起来，而我的追随者（Brelyna Maryon、Buttons、Erik the Slayer、Farkas、Inigo、Kaidan、Lucien、Raindrop、Roggi Knot-Beard、Snowball、Thorald Gray-Mane 和 Vilkas）则处理其余的。或者至少是其中的一些。

 

无论如何，这就是事情的现状。

Thank you for sharing your experience,it looks fantastic!