Licenses - Player Oppression

[Dingo-]

On 3/16/2025 at 12:07 PM, Nuascura said:

Beta 3 is available on my Discord server which hopefully fixes your issue. 

 

Yep, that fixed it. Thanks!

[Black714]

Only 2 License on Tertiary Licenses. I have suggestion. if don't mind.

since I like DD Collar Exemption (Devious Devices) on 3rd one.
how about add Chastity Belt and Vaginal plug License? (since Anal can conflict with someone who use Pee and Fart or Private Needs Mod). so Vaginal plug is the safety one.

it should be like Bikini and Armor License. Plug License is allowed player not wearing it and Belt License cover both.

The reason is protect player from any rape mod or parasite mod like (Estrus, Defeat, Oven, Parasite, FMEA, Devious Chest) some sort.

at least Belt and Plug make player still can roaming freely and doing some adventure but still under license control erotically 😉

Edited March 18, 2025 by Black714

[Nuascura]

@Black714 Thanks for the idea! I'll consider it. Unfortunately I've been busy lately, so the update stream is slowing down.

[Black714]

6 hours ago, Nuascura said:

@Black714 Thanks for the idea! I'll consider it. Unfortunately I've been busy lately, so the update stream is slowing down.

Thankyou 😀I will patiently wait. I have a reason for that license. because mostly mod only focus in city, and some can avoidable if we already know it will be happen.
another case, we can easy "Quick Load" game if we do some mistake. example POP or some mod with event trigger.

Edited March 21, 2025 by Black714

[Firestormx]

I just tried the mod for the first time. I liked it but wish it applied things like weapon, armor, and clothing licenses to all npc.  The mod Sexy Adventures has a crime law setting that seems to make some npc at least not wear clothing. I would find it more immersive if npc were also required to get licenses. Great mod though, very well done.

[NTWY]

I have just started playing skyrim again and I upgraded the mod from 1.21 to 1.23.2/3 and I can't seem to be able to initialize MCM. 

The debug says that the LPO initialization has completed when I press Initialize and as a matter of fact, the mod works in-game. The problem is that the MCM is stuck on "system Overview" and the mod is shown as uninitilized so I can't configure anything.

 

Looking at the papyrus log, there seem to be lot of errors during initialization ( like Hundreds of lines). Here are some examples : 

Spoiler

stack:
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OnPageReset() - "BM_Licenses_MCM.psc" Line 326
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 832
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (2B000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnModSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 140
[03/24/2025 - 10:22:20PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp37"
stack:
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OnPageReset() - "BM_Licenses_MCM.psc" Line 326
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 832
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (2B000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnModSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 140
[03/24/2025 - 10:22:20PM] Error: Cannot call GetValue() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OnConfigOpen() - "BM_Licenses_MCM.psc" Line 275
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 834
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (2B000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnModSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 140
[03/24/2025 - 10:22:20PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp23"
stack:
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OnConfigOpen() - "BM_Licenses_MCM.psc" Line 275
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 834

 

[Lillithcometh]

were temporary permits removed as of the latest few updates? i no longer see the option to select a short travel permit available with gaurds anymore.

[IBAGadget]

44 minutes ago, Lillithcometh said:

were temporary permits removed as of the latest few updates? i no longer see the option to select a short travel permit available with gaurds anymore.

I'm on 1.23.3, and I can set my Travel Permit duration down to 1 day. Not sure how much more temporary you want it.

[slkajhf34]

I love this mod. but i wish there was an option to attempt to charm the guards. it would take your speech skill into account. then you have a chance to pay with sex

[Nuascura]

16 hours ago, Lillithcometh said:

were temporary permits removed as of the latest few updates? i no longer see the option to select a short travel permit available with gaurds anymore.

I haven't touched any part directly related to the relevant topic infos, so that function should be intact 100%. You should find the dialogue topic as long as your primary license seller is Steward and you're inside a city or town.

 

On 3/25/2025 at 1:31 AM, Firestormx said:

I just tried the mod for the first time. I liked it but wish it applied things like weapon, armor, and clothing licenses to all npc.  The mod Sexy Adventures has a crime law setting that seems to make some npc at least not wear clothing. I would find it more immersive if npc were also required to get licenses. Great mod though, very well done.

Managing NPCs dynamically can be very taxing on your system a la Slaverun, which is why I haven't bothered to touch that aspect at all. I recommend using SES2 or Corsec's non-DD SPID distribution to emulate a Slaverun environment if that is to your tastes.

 

11 hours ago, slkajhf34 said:

I love this mod. but i wish there was an option to attempt to charm the guards. it would take your speech skill into account. then you have a chance to pay with sex

I'll certainly take this into account for the future. Persuasion check leading to sex.

[LOLITO]

On 3/25/2025 at 3:58 AM, NTWY said:

I have just started playing skyrim again and I upgraded the mod from 1.21 to 1.23.2/3 and I can't seem to be able to initialize MCM. 

The debug says that the LPO initialization has completed when I press Initialize and as a matter of fact, the mod works in-game. The problem is that the MCM is stuck on "system Overview" and the mod is shown as uninitilized so I can't configure anything.

 

Looking at the papyrus log, there seem to be lot of errors during initialization ( like Hundreds of lines). Here are some examples : 

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stack:
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OnPageReset() - "BM_Licenses_MCM.psc" Line 326
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 832
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (2B000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnModSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 140
[03/24/2025 - 10:22:20PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp37"
stack:
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OnPageReset() - "BM_Licenses_MCM.psc" Line 326
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.SetPage() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 865
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 832
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (2B000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnModSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 140
[03/24/2025 - 10:22:20PM] Error: Cannot call GetValue() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OnConfigOpen() - "BM_Licenses_MCM.psc" Line 275
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 834
    [SKI_ConfigManagerInstance (2B000802)].SKI_ConfigManager.OnModSelect() - "SKI_ConfigManager.psc" Line 140
[03/24/2025 - 10:22:20PM] WARNING: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp23"
stack:
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OnConfigOpen() - "BM_Licenses_MCM.psc" Line 275
    [BM_Licenses_MCM (FE04A813)].bm_licenses_mcm.OpenConfig() - "SKI_ConfigBase.psc" Line 834

 

I am having the exact same issue, before the update, this mod was one of the first mods that showed up in the mcm menu.

[slkajhf34]

On 3/26/2025 at 10:25 AM, Nuascura said:

I'll certainly take this into account for the future. Persuasion check leading to sex.

Temporarily, enabling the fine added to bounty option and then using opleaseletmego can be a way to get it i found.

[XSupremeFrogX]

Hello, how can I make the bikini license to work? I mean what do I need do. Do I need to only add the bikini keyword and that's it?
 

[XSupremeFrogX]

So, I already added EroticArmor keyword from OSL Aroused to my clothing and guards still don't react. I don't have a bikini license, but they still don't care.

 

Can someone please tell how to set it up.

 

 

Edited March 29, 2025 by XSupremeFrogX

[Nuascura]

@XSupremeFrogX You probably misunderstood how this feature works. The Bikini License prevents guards from confiscating bikini-tagged items ONLY IF you have a Bikini License.

[XSupremeFrogX]

38 minutes ago, Nuascura said:

@XSupremeFrogX You probably misunderstood how this feature works. The Bikini License prevents guards from confiscating bikini-tagged items ONLY IF you have a Bikini License.

Now I get it. Dumb me sorry I got it wrong.

Edited March 29, 2025 by XSupremeFrogX

[Gudulba]

I recently have tested Pamatronic's new version of Bad Ends Solitude, where after being "released" from prison (all inventory items including licenses had been confiscated beforehand and removed from inventory), the PC is shackled to the wall in the Solitude courtyard. This happened at night. I have enabled the curfew license. So a guard comes dashing at my shackled PC and harassed her regarding the missing curfew license, thus breaking the Bad Ends Solitude events.

 

Would it maybe make sense to suspend license checking while a PC is tied up (in furniture, devices etc.)?

[Nuascura]

3 hours ago, Gudulba said:

I recently have tested Pamatronic's new version of Bad Ends Solitude, where after being "released" from prison (all inventory items including licenses had been confiscated beforehand and removed from inventory), the PC is shackled to the wall in the Solitude courtyard. This happened at night. I have enabled the curfew license. So a guard comes dashing at my shackled PC and harassed her regarding the missing curfew license, thus breaking the Bad Ends Solitude events.

 

Would it maybe make sense to suspend license checking while a PC is tied up (in furniture, devices etc.)?

I think that approach would be problematic. Furniture include normal chairs, and we still want the player to be approached when tied up with devices. That's all obvious ofc, but making the conditions more specific for these scenarios may lead us closer to a hard dep. Everyone is always free to make their own patches for Licenses.

 

For my ideal, it'd be best if Pama has a modevent for their Bad Ends. LPO already receives events from Prison Alternative to disable checks when you're in jail, so we'd just do the same thing when you're in a bad end scenario. 

 

Alternatively, you can petition pama to provide some use in the mod event header's variables, or provide some documentation if they already exist.

Event pamaPA_OnImprisonementEnd(string eventName, string strArg, float numArg, Form sender)

This is the mod event header. An easy way would be if we can get documentation on something here that differs based on what ending you get. For example, if PA lets the player go free a la normal vanilla jail release, numArg == 0.0. If bad end, numArg == 1.0

 

In either case, it might take a good while before I can work on another update to Licenses. If you do have time to investigate for me, lmk as I don't use any of Pama's mods myself.

[Gudulba]

On 4/7/2025 at 4:14 PM, Nuascura said:

I think that approach would be problematic. Furniture include normal chairs, and we still want the player to be approached when tied up with devices. That's all obvious ofc, but making the conditions more specific for these scenarios may lead us closer to a hard dep. Everyone is always free to make their own patches for Licenses.

 

For my ideal, it'd be best if Pama has a modevent for their Bad Ends. LPO already receives events from Prison Alternative to disable checks when you're in jail, so we'd just do the same thing when you're in a bad end scenario. 

 

Alternatively, you can petition pama to provide some use in the mod event header's variables, or provide some documentation if they already exist.

Event pamaPA_OnImprisonementEnd(string eventName, string strArg, float numArg, Form sender)

This is the mod event header. An easy way would be if we can get documentation on something here that differs based on what ending you get. For example, if PA lets the player go free a la normal vanilla jail release, numArg == 0.0. If bad end, numArg == 1.0

 

In either case, it might take a good while before I can work on another update to Licenses. If you do have time to investigate for me, lmk as I don't use any of Pama's mods myself.

Ok, I see what I can do.

Also SLUTS Resume came to my mind, where the PC is placed into a yoke during a cart run (and all the inventory locked away), which may also potentially collide with a license.

[FFUps009]

Could someone explain to me how you add keywords for the bikini feature? I'm trying to add all of the A.N.D keywords, but I don't want to go 1 by 1 in the game. do I just dump them all in the ini folder?

[eicosa]

6 hours ago, FFUps009 said:

Could someone explain to me how you add keywords for the bikini feature? I'm trying to add all of the A.N.D keywords, but I don't want to go 1 by 1 in the game. do I just dump them all in the ini folder?

 

This mod already has both Licenses and Bikini keywords (using the SLA ones, which AND can read) covered really well:

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/106672?tab=description

their _KID.ini files are good examples if you still want to make your own

Edited April 11, 2025 by eicosa

[eicosa]

I'm getting an issue where guards will accuse my character of wearing something without a license even if my character is visibly naked and the Clothing license has never been enabled. The MCM is has Armor and Bikini licenses enabled, but my character isn't wearing them.  I already the refresh/debug buttons from the mcm but they didnt help.
Is there any way to check what keywoards are active on my character?

[Nuascura]

5 hours ago, eicosa said:

I'm getting an issue where guards will accuse my character of wearing something without a license even if my character is visibly naked and the Clothing license has never been enabled. The MCM is has Armor and Bikini licenses enabled, but my character isn't wearing them.  I already the refresh/debug buttons from the mcm but they didnt help.
Is there any way to check what keywoards are active on my character?

The console is able to show you all active keywords on your character. I think it requires More Informative Console.

 

Alternatively, enable “Log Trace” in Licenses’ MCM. Your papyrus log will then tell you the specific item formID that resulted in your violation.

[FFUps009]

19 hours ago, eicosa said:

I'm getting an issue where guards will accuse my character of wearing something without a license even if my character is visibly naked and the Clothing license has never been enabled. The MCM is has Armor and Bikini licenses enabled, but my character isn't wearing them.  I already the refresh/debug buttons from the mcm but they didnt help.
Is there any way to check what keywoards are active on my character?

Okay, I only ask because the bikini license feature doesn't seem to detect any armormy character is wearing

[Nuascura]

@FFUps009 If what you mean is that your items are all already tagged and you just want the Bikini License to recognize all AND keywords as Bikini keywords, you'll need to go into interface/Licenses/settings.json. Find the bikinikeywordstring item. You will need to add all keywords one by one.

 

Example:

"bikinikeywordstring": "keyword1,keyword2,keyword3,keyword4"

 

After you're done, enter the game and import your config.

Edited April 12, 2025 by Nuascura