Popular Post kaxat Posted March 31, 2024 Popular Post Posted March 31, 2024 (edited) Until July of 2025 this topic was the place to find preview versions of a new family of mods. Now those mods have been officially released! Here are their official release pages containing the non-beta versions: [ASF] Autonomous Sex Framework [SES2] Slaverun NPC Enforcer [SOC] Slave Outfit Composer [HSW] Hide Sheathed Weapons [ASF] Furniture Lite [ASF] Acheron Integration Open Monk Robes - Outfit Distributor SkyTitties - Outfit Distributor Spoiler This contains links to the old preview files that were available prior to release. I left this for posterity. SES2 SES2_v0_2_0.zip SES2_v0_1_0.zip HSW — Hide Sheathed Weapons HideSheathed_v1_0_0.zip SOC — Slave Outfit Composer SOC - Slave Outfit Composer v1_0_0.zipSOC - Corsec v1.zipSOC - ZAP.zipSOC - Luxury Collection.zipSOC - Wigs - KSSMP.zipSOC_Kaxat_Wigs_Xing.esp ASF — Autonomous Sex Framework ASF_v0_3_0.zip ASF_v0_2_0.zip ASF Addon — Furniture Lite ASF - Furniture Lite v0.3.0.zip ASF - Furniture Lite v0.1.0.zip ASF Addon — Acheron Integration ASF - Acheron Integration v0.1.0.zip Edited July 5, 2025 by kaxat Released the mods. 23
kaxat Posted March 31, 2024 Author Posted March 31, 2024 (edited) Installation instructions for the default config of SES2 This will install the default configuration of SES2. Which caters to the backstory of much of Skyrim being enslaved due to the civil war. Mostly women are enslaved. Some men too. They are bound in metal collars and cuffs, and are made available for sex with soldiers and the unenslaved populace. Install the mods that are typical for a 2020s load order. SexLab and its dependencies. Variants like P+ or Osmel Tweaks are supported. SexLab Aroused. Performance friendly variants like OSLA and NG are supported. powerofthree's Papyrus Extender SPID - Spell Perk Item Distributor KID - Keywords Item Distributor Install the mods you probably already have. Zaz Animation Pack (2023 edition or newer). SkyPatcher Install other frameworks. These are all light frameworks and will not have a meaningful performance impact. IER - po3's Item Equip Restrictor All_Key - SPID Keyword Framework ASF — Autonomous Sex Framework * SOC — Slave Outfit Composer * Install SES2 * - SES2 is just an SPID ini file. It can be heavily customized if you know how. Install the default SES2 addons SOC - Zap * Install the completely optional SES2 tie-ins Licenses - Player Oppression and/or Public Whore. SOC - KSSMP *, which means you should first install: FSMP - Faster HDT-SMP KS SMP (w/optional wig addon installed) ASF - Furniture Lite * ASF - Acheron Integration *, which means you should first install: Acheron Yamete Kudasai Start the game Open up the Autonomous Sex MCM menu, and click Enable Random Sex. Note: This is the only MCM added by my mods (SES2/ASF/SOC/HSW). This MCM handles all of the configurations options that can not be set using SPID, KID, or SkyPatcher. * These mods are newly created for SES2. Download links are available in this thread. Some of these steps can be customized or even skipped if you wish to cater to a different backstory. To customize this family of mods you must be willing to carefully read the relevant mod descriptions and understand the impacts of your choices. If you are a seasoned mod user then refer to the expandable spoiler descriptions on SES2, ASF, HSW, and SOC to find the optional mods. Obviously you are very savvy so you don't need a guide like this, you can just read mod descriptions and understand them. You might share your customized load order and SPID alterations with the rest of the community. This family of mods is extremely customizable and can cater towards many different roleplay and story ideas by customizing SPID. You are not restricted to the default "Skyrim is enslaved due to the civil war" scenario. Archive of older versions Spoiler 2024-03-31 - Original Release of main plugins SES2_v0_1_0.zip This download bundled all 4 mods in a single zip. It was an early preview. 2024-05-05 - Changelog SES2_v0_1_1.zip This download bundled all 4 mods in a single zip. It was an early preview. 2024-05-13 - Changelog SES2_v0_1_2.zip This download bundled all 4 mods in a single zip. It was an early preview. 2024-05-19 - Changelog SES2_v0_1_3.zip This download bundled all 4 mods in a single zip. It was an early preview. 2024-06-19 - Changelog SES2_v0_1_0.zip This was the first proper release of SES2 as a separate zip. The version number is confusing. It is newer than what came before. ASF_v0_2_0.zip This was the first proper release of ASF as a separate zip. HideSheathed_v1_0_0.zip This was the first and final release of HSW as a separate zip 2025-03-30 - First release of Furniture Lite ASF - Furniture Lite v0.1.0.zip Edited June 1, 2025 by kaxat 4
PureMadness Posted March 31, 2024 Posted March 31, 2024 18 minutes ago, kaxat said: SES2 is a spiritual successor to the Slaverun Enforcer. It breaks Enforcer functionality out from Slaverun Reloaded and makes it independent. A year or two ago I wrote SES1. It improved and patched Reloaded's Enforcer. This mod continues that work. The codebase has been rewritten. I rethought features. I also added my own spin to some functionality. New mod works with a greater variety of role play possibilities. Attached is a zip plugin you can download and install. This is a preview release. People have been patiently badgering me for months to Just. Release. Something. even if it is not complete. I have play tested this for 70+ hours now. Finding and fixing bugs while adding features. It is missing some planned features in its current state. I am sure there are more bugs to be found with all of my recent changes. But it is perfectly playable and adds a lot to the game. What is included here is actually a few mods all rolled into one zip. I broke parts of the Enforcer out into separate light ESP mods. People do not need to install all of them if they only want one feature. Autonomous Sex Framework (ASF) - This is a substantial new mod that I have been working on. One of the primary goals of SES1 was to avoid interrupting player quests, dialogue, and scenes with autonomous sex. Another goal was to make autonomous sex lightweight. No performance penalty. This framework accomplishes both of those. It improves on SES1. Makes it possible for other mods to benefit from all this. It is now super easy for other mods to implement bug-free NPC sex. No worry about how it will impact the player, or the countless edge case issues that can crop up. Other mods can use ASF like SES2 does. Eventually I plan to write some patches for Public Whore and Radiant Prostitution to use ASF. HideSheathed mod - Hides sheathed weapons from naked NPCs. Distributed via SPID. The Reloaded Enforcer did this for actors after stripping them, because a dagger on a naked hip is not immersive. Outfit Composer mod - Takes the large variety of slave outfits designed for SES1, and allows distributing them across Skyrim. This includes some smaller optional mods. I am only releasing the tie-ins to ZAP and KSSMP today. Some of the others need more work or explanation. Current and planned features Male/Female NPC stripping. Which assigns them new outfits in various states of undress. Makes them look like slaves. Sex scenes initated by upper/middle class individuals with slaves. Depending on your settings, both males and females can have sex with slaves. Group sex supported. Player can be involved in sex scenes if they wear slave or whore clothing. I added a new (optional) prompting system where people ask for sex, and player has a chance to decline. Player can also get paid for sex if they are a whore. What relies on other mods Player and follower nudity law enforcement. For the player, BM Licenses and Public Whore have the ability to enforce this. For followers, you might need to manage their inventory yourself. I am planning on some features to make this automated. For now that is low on my priority list. Upcoming Features Some of the cooldown timers in ASF MCM do not actually change cooldown timing. You are stuck with my defaults, the sliders are currently placebos. More tweaks to who gets enslaved by default and who does not. The default can easily be tweaked in the SPID .ini. Currently it has unique rules for Orc strongholds, wealthy individuals and powerful families, the poor, middle class, unmarried women, fathers of families, bosses and people who have an apprentice, farms and settlements outside city walls, and a few others. There are a lot of situations accounted for in the SPID files. I encounter more every day. I miss the blowjob at the city gates feature from SES1. I still have not settled on how I want to reimplement that. Ideally it would work even if you fast traveled into town, a guard would approach and notice your new arrival. Role play wise I think it makes the most sense as part of a BM Licenses integration. Redo the Outfit Composer mod to rely on SkyTweak. I would like to support a variety of dialogue scenes before and after sex. Currently you only get a notification like in SES1. This is a longterm goal. My hope is to make some template scenes that other people can easily duplicate and tweak the wording of. Then I only need to write a few scenes. Others can add more. How to install You can download and install with a mod manager. Make sure you have the following required mods. You probably already have all but one of these installed. SexLab v1.x or P+. I am using P+. Zaz Animation Pack powerofthree's Papyrus Extender V5.3+ (Unavailable for LE) SPID - Spell Perk Item Distributor Used to control who gets stripped, who gets enslaved, and who can initiate sex scenes. All_Key - SPID Keyword Framework Utilizing All_Key I was able to additional things like make unmarried women more likely to get enslaved. Employers are less likely. In general this mod makes customizing who gets enslaved considerably easier. I was a beta tester for this for a while. Super useful and I rewrote SES SPID rules to rely on it. Been waiting on it to get released to the public. You will notice a few optional ESPs included. For example KSSMP wigs. You can disable these plugins if you do not have the required masters. Once installed start the game. You will see a notification about a new MCM being added. There is only one new MCM. It is for the Autonomous Sex Framework. Open that MCM and enable "Random Sex". For now SES2 relies on the Random Sex feature. It is intended for ASF mods that are in development, to rapidly get started without even needing their own plugin. That's exactly the stage SES2 is in right now. Save Safety This mod is decently safe to install. In theory it should not negatively impact your save. I have been playtesting it on my main save for 70+ hours. Mod is still very much in beta. But thoroughly playable. Future updates to this beta might require you to do a "clean install". Where you dismiss follower, coc QASmoke, save, uninstall, save again, install the update. I had to do that once already when I wrote a substantial update. Who is this mod for? In its current state this mod is for people who do not mind beta testing. I deeply appreciate how patiently many of you have waited for a truly standalone version of the Reloaded Enforcer. I burned out a couple times while building it. The kind words and eager user sentiment was a big help to getting me started again. I wish this mod could please everyone. But it is a spiritual successor. There will be features from SES1 that are permanently missing. Also tweaks to features that cater to my preferences. This mod will not please everyone who enjoyed SES1. For other users it will be even better than the original. Thank you all for the support. SES2_v0_1_0.zip 140.17 kB · 0 downloads Right on! Once I get things sorted, I’ll download this mod as well as BM License and few other choice mods and I’ll have myself a very unique game. Thank you for the hard work!!! 1
tinkerbelle Posted April 1, 2024 Posted April 1, 2024 I see you posted this in a Skyrim forum. Does this mod work in Skyrim LE, Skyrim SE or either one? 1
kaxat Posted April 2, 2024 Author Posted April 2, 2024 @tinkerbelle Good question. SES has the following dependency. Which is only available for SE, VR, and newer. On 3/31/2024 at 11:45 AM, kaxat said: powerofthree's Papyrus Extender V5.3+ (Unavailable for LE) Version 5.3 of that mod added some necessary functions, and patched another. SES2 is reliant on both the patches and new functionality from that version. PO3 dropped LE support a versions prior to this. 1
jc321 Posted April 2, 2024 Posted April 2, 2024 (edited) Just for info When I loaded it into Vortex the OutfitComposer_Kax_KSSMPWigs.esp it seems to have some missing masters for KSWigsSMP.esp and Public Hoor Patch.esp (hmm latter sounds interesting) [edit] sorry, just seen you mentioned in the pre-amble about the KSSMP mod dependency Edited April 2, 2024 by jc321
kaxat Posted April 4, 2024 Author Posted April 4, 2024 @jc321 Nice catch. That is exactly the sort of thing that is easier to catch with beta testers. Thank you. Public Hoor Patch.esp is an erroneous dependency. In the Public Whore thread I released some of my patches. Most of the stuff I haven't released is just customizing NPC appearances or other personal preferences. Eventually I will circle back to it and add a patch for it to use ASF. Then you will see more group sex scenes. And it should get a notable performance improvement from that. I just updated the original download. Only change is that OutfitComposer_Kax_KSSMPWigs.esp has one less master. No need to redownload unless you have installed KS SMP Wigs, and wanted to use my SES2 integration for that mod.
drive.rafa3 Posted April 4, 2024 Posted April 4, 2024 (edited) I just installed the mod. Some general thoughts: NPC stripping - Women with the SESSlave keyword are being equipped with Zaz items but remain clothed. I changed the DISTR file so there were significantly more SESSlave women and this remained consistent - Men with the SESSlave keyword are being equipped with Zaz and are naked. - I'm guessing this is not the intended behavior Logging The MCM menu says "Logging is disabled in my Skyrim.ini". I went to MO2->Tool Plugins->Ini Editor-> skyrim.ini. In the [Papyrus] section i do have bEnableLogging=1. Autonomous Sex I did not see any NPC nor PC sex automatically trigger. I am using Sexlab Aroused NG. I tried lowering the minimum arousal to 1 and checking the Keep Arousal Faction Updated, which didn't help. I'm tired so it may well be user error. Good luck on the new mod! Edited April 4, 2024 by drive.rafa3 typo
kaxat Posted April 5, 2024 Author Posted April 5, 2024 20 hours ago, drive.rafa3 said: NPC stripping - Women with the SESSlave keyword are being equipped with Zaz items but remain clothed. I changed the DISTR file so there were significantly more SESSlave women and this remained consistent - Men with the SESSlave keyword are being equipped with Zaz and are naked. - I'm guessing this is not the intended behavior That is not intended behavior. I appreciate the extra details because it helped me instantly guess what the issue is. I updated the original zip again. This time there is no longer any references to farm clothes on some female outfits. Mind installing it? The only file that changed is Outfit Composer.esp. You can copy that file over and keep your INI tweaks. 20 hours ago, drive.rafa3 said: Logging The MCM menu says "Logging is disabled in my Skyrim.ini". I went to MO2->Tool Plugins->Ini Editor-> skyrim.ini. In the [Papyrus] section i do have bEnableLogging=1. It is possible that you have bEnableLogging mentioned in a different ini file. The Custom.ini will override things in the Skyrim.ini one. Try typing GetINI "bEnableLogging:Papyrus" in the developer console. If it returns anything except 1 or TRUE) You need to keep tweaking your INIs until logging is enabled. If says TRUE) Something might be amiss with my code. I have no idea what. Please share what version of Skyrim and SKSE you are using. Of course you can also not worry about this and leave logging disabled. It is optional. But I appreciate you trying to enable that feature. It could be helpful in any future bug reports you make. 20 hours ago, drive.rafa3 said: Autonomous Sex I did not see any NPC nor PC sex automatically trigger. I am using Sexlab Aroused NG. I tried lowering the minimum arousal to 1 and checking the Keep Arousal Faction Updated, which didn't help. Did you enable Random Sex in ASF? That is a very important step. Currently SES2 relies on that feature. Without it no sex. That step is not user friendly. But it is also temporary. Eventually SES2 will have its own way of triggering sex. Until then it is using ASF's example sex feature, which triggers sex scenes from any of the currently installed ASF mods. For now only one such mod exists. So I utilized the example random sex as a hack to get SES2 developed faster.
Nuascura Posted April 5, 2024 Posted April 5, 2024 On 3/31/2024 at 10:45 AM, kaxat said: Autonomous Sex Framework Can this framework handle ongoing NPC scenes when player exits the cell? I know that Aroused Creatures fails to handle it properly. Physics go haywire since actors continue to move in unloaded cells, so an actor might appear on top of a house when the player returns, for example. Maybe ASF can, or already does, stop scene when player leaves cell? On 3/31/2024 at 10:45 AM, kaxat said: HideSheathed mod Would you be able to pair this mod with Item Equip Restrictor? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/108665 I think it’d be a perfect fit to easily disallow weapon equips without having to remove them per actor record as Corsec’s patch currently does.
kaxat Posted April 6, 2024 Author Posted April 6, 2024 On 4/5/2024 at 1:21 AM, Nuascura said: Can this framework handle ongoing NPC scenes when player exits the cell? I know that Aroused Creatures fails to handle it properly. Physics go haywire since actors continue to move in unloaded cells, so an actor might appear on top of a house when the player returns, for example. Maybe ASF can, or already does, stop scene when player leaves cell? Once ASF calls sslThreadController.StartThread() everything gets handled automatically by Sexlab. So if there are any issues Sexlab needs to patch them. I would consider helping SL where I can. But there are now three distinct codebases and I bet they each have their own quirks with building exits. There is vanilla, Osmel's patches, and P+. Each would probably require its own unique patch. That is too much work. Bugs like that should be patched in the frameworks. I am using P+ 1.8.x right now. One of the things I like about it is that scenes will seemingly keep playing when you exit a building. If you reenter I have had the scene seamlessly pick up where the animation left off. But if the scene involves a follower P+ does have a bug. The follower can exit the building with you mid scene. They will then get stuck in a looping humping animation. If I was to write a patch for this issue it would have to be pretty specific circumstances where I might send a new idle animation to the follower. That patch might not work well with Osmel's tweaks for all I know. A more universal kill all scenes when player exits would be doable, but then it would break some of Scrabs work on making animations continue when you exit. Point being these issues are best patched in SexLab frameworks not by consumers like ASF. And for all I know Scrab has patched the above issues in v2.x betas. I have never been able to find a complete changelog for those betas. In vanilla Sexlab 1.63, I used to notice it killing scenes when the player exited. But it was not 100% consistent. On 4/5/2024 at 1:21 AM, Nuascura said: Can this framework handle ongoing NPC scenes when player exits the cell? I know that Aroused Creatures fails to handle it properly. Physics go haywire since actors continue to move in unloaded cells, so an actor might appear on top of a house when the player returns, for example. Maybe ASF can, or already does, stop scene when player leaves cell? Would you be able to pair this mod with Item Equip Restrictor? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/108665 I think it’d be a perfect fit to easily disallow weapon equips without having to remove them per actor record as Corsec’s patch currently does. Realistically I can probably replace HideSheathed with Equip Restrictor and a custom config. I wrote HideSheathed before that mod existed. HS is an extremely simple mod. My initial goal was to use NetImmerse to literally hide the sheathed actor nodes. NetImmerse is what RaceMenu uses for actor node manipulation. But after playing around with it for quite some time I gave up. There was one quirk after another I was encountering. It would have been awesome and highly performant. But was taking too much time write. The method that was consistently reliable was unequipping the item. So I settled on some fairly simple unequip code and distributed it as a spell. The unequip won't happen in combat, if the actor has a weapon drawn, and it won't happen if the actor is wearing a cuirass. The helmet hiding portion of the code won't hide wigs but it will unequip everything else. Equip Restrictor is seemingly capable of all of the above except the weapon drawn part. Which would make some vanilla quest scenes a little odd. For example when Irileth greets the player for the first time she draws her weapon and approaches. Equip Restrictor would probably have her put her hands up instead of drawing her sword. But she does not get enslaved by default in SES2 anyways. So minor visual issues like that would be rare. Just so you know Nuascura, I am purposefully breaking out some of SES2's functionality to complement your Licenses mod. Your mod is providing the roleplay motivation for my choices in who gets stripped and who does not. I am using SPID filters to seemingly apply clothing license laws to NPCs. The poorer you are the less likely you are to wear clothes. Technically SES2 is mostly agnostic about Licenses in its current state. But the roleplay works nearly perfect together. It makes it seem like NPCs are getting stripped because of licenses. Eventually I want to add blowjob demands from guards like SES1 has. My favorite idea so far is to insert blowjob bartering into the Licenses discussion with guards. Player will pay a significant premium for a license if they've never given the seller a blowjob. Guards that are stationed outside city gates will approach player and NPCs, explaining that special Licenses restrictions are in effect in this city and demand a blowjob in exchange for entrance. I am not sure how to reliably detect these specific guards. Hopefully they already have a unique package or something that can be found with an SPID filter or a condition function. When the player fast travels to a new city and has a valid license from a different city, any guard can approach and offer to make that license valid here. In exchange for a blowjob. I would also be tempted to add a faction to guards that receive a blow job so they recognize the player and behave differently on repeat interactions. Of course most guards reset every week or two so that recognition will be temporary. These are just ideas. But they may require cooperation between our two mods. It is possible they make the most sense as features in your MCM that can be turned on. I would be happy to write and patch the code if you are interested in contributions. It is also possible some of them should be a new mod that extends functionality. I need to think this through more.
Nuascura Posted April 7, 2024 Posted April 7, 2024 11 hours ago, kaxat said: Guards that are stationed outside city gates will approach player and NPCs, explaining that special Licenses restrictions are in effect in this city and demand a blowjob in exchange for entrance. I am not sure how to reliably detect these specific guards. Hopefully they already have a unique package or something that can be found with an SPID filter or a condition function. If nothing else, it should be enough to detect if the actor is in TamrialWorldspace (if that's what's it's called) since all other guards inside city walls are in their unique city worldspaces. 11 hours ago, kaxat said: I would be happy to write and patch the code if you are interested in contributions. I'd also be happy to accept contributions. I had been steadily adding to and fixing Licenses weekly over the past half year, so now I'm taking a break for the near future while I actually play Skyrim. This is an apt and easy time to make any changes for us to review since I likely won't make any conflicting changes myself. I'm hopeful for SES2 because it'll make the world feel more dynamic and reactive toward Licenses. All I can settle for now is my custom collar-only non-DD patch for NPCs. 1
drive.rafa3 Posted April 8, 2024 Posted April 8, 2024 Kaxat, I installed the new version - Women are getting stripped now as well. I may just be used to SES1 stripping every woman, but the defaults seem too lenient. - You were right about the skyrimcustom.ini - I checked Random Sex and NPC 2 NPC sex started ocurring. I have not seen the PC be propositioned for sex yet. I'll try it around some more and report bugs if I find any.
AWHA2 Posted April 18, 2024 Posted April 18, 2024 This seems really promising. @kaxat are there plans to integrate non SL scenes like zaz scenes? In my game I always thought that full on SL scenes playing in the middle of the street was a bit immersion breaking, I wish there was a way to restrict SL scenes to only indoor areas and zaz scenes would play in the streets (e.g. using zaz furniture).
klephino Posted April 30, 2024 Posted April 30, 2024 On 3/31/2024 at 7:45 PM, kaxat said: I miss the blowjob at the city gates feature from SES1. I still have not settled on how I want to reimplement that. Ideally it would work even if you fast traveled into town, a guard would approach and notice your new arrival. Role play wise I think it makes the most sense as part of a BM Licenses integration. Oh, will there be a blowjob license integration, where you have to buy it to avoid the guards? That'd be pretty neat I think. Really looking forward to your progress on this mod, good luck.
kaxat Posted May 5, 2024 Author Posted May 5, 2024 On 4/7/2024 at 8:43 PM, drive.rafa3 said: Kaxat, I installed the new version - Women are getting stripped now as well. I may just be used to SES1 stripping every woman, but the defaults seem too lenient. - You were right about the skyrimcustom.ini - I checked Random Sex and NPC 2 NPC sex started ocurring. I have not seen the PC be propositioned for sex yet. I'll try it around some more and report bugs if I find any. Excellent that it works now. The default settings are certainly more lenient than the original. It is a symptom of me roleplaying differently in my own game. At present I do not have alternate configurations to offer you. You will have to craft them yourself in the SPID INI. On 4/18/2024 at 9:09 AM, AWHA2 said: This seems really promising. @kaxat are there plans to integrate non SL scenes like zaz scenes? In my game I always thought that full on SL scenes playing in the middle of the street was a bit immersion breaking, I wish there was a way to restrict SL scenes to only indoor areas and zaz scenes would play in the streets (e.g. using zaz furniture). No plans. I get what you mean. Osmel's Tweaks has an option for NPCs to find private places for private time. I have never tried it. But I like the idea of it. On the other hand I also enjoy a little bit of naughty in plain sight as I go about my other quests. You win some you lose some. Unfortunately I have not had ideal experiences with Zaz animations. I am grateful they exist. But I have experienced many glitches. Possible because SE+ is not officially supported. On 4/30/2024 at 2:27 PM, klephino said: Oh, will there be a blowjob license integration, where you have to buy it to avoid the guards? That'd be pretty neat I think. Really looking forward to your progress on this mod, good luck. Thank you for the feedback. Glad you are enjoying it so far. See this post for my latest thoughts on how blowjob bribes could work. Feedback is welcome.
Tetras66 Posted May 5, 2024 Posted May 5, 2024 This mod has very interesting features, but can someone please explain how to make it include the player? I coc into xpopsublevel1 from the xpo mod and it works fine with matching the NPCs there (bounty hunters, nobles and prisoners), but the player is never included in any of the scenes, regardless of the prompt being enabled or disabled, or the detection area being huge or tiny. I'm guessing I have to use some specific clothing, or somehow construct an outfit, but how do I do this, or with what? I have no idea how the outfit composer mods work, or if I even need to use them.
kaxat Posted May 6, 2024 Author Posted May 6, 2024 (edited) @Tetras66 The player has to be wearing something to identify them as a slave or prostitute. ZAP collars and cuffs should work, alongside DD items. This can all be customized in the _KID.ini files. Items of clothing can be added to the list of slave clothes by giving them a keyword. Which is what those _KID.ini files distribute. New Version Released - v0.1.1 Just some minor bug fixes. Overhauled the detection of whether player is a valid recipient. Improved performance. Patched issue where it failed to detect a change in player validity keeping them in the old state. Prevent sex request prompts from asking player while they are in a menu. Some code already did this some of the time but more code was needed. Fixed a spelling error in the ZAP and DD Keyword Item Distributor (KID) files that gave them useless misspelled keywords. Now people wearing these items will be included and excluded as I intended. Added a Prostitutes_KID.ini file that makes Tavern Wench outfit, Barkeeper clothes, and Amulets of Dibella valid targets for people interested in sex. Optional file that can be deleted if you do not want this. If you have customized any of the _DISTR.ini files those are unchanged since the previous version. Just copy over the changes to the scripts and _KID.ini files. Edited May 6, 2024 by kaxat
Tetras66 Posted May 6, 2024 Posted May 6, 2024 (edited) 21 hours ago, kaxat said: @Tetras66 The player has to be wearing something to identify them as a slave or prostitute. ZAP collars and cuffs should work, alongside DD items. This can all be customized in the _KID.ini files. Items of clothing can be added to the list of slave clothes by giving them a keyword. Which is what those _KID.ini files distribute. Hmm, I tested it again with the newer version and it still doesn't seem to use the player, even with no alternative NPCs in range. I tried with DD items & ZAP items (though not both of them together). In one of my logs it says a function: ASF_Player CheckValidity() ran frequently, but in the two subsequent play sessions, this function doesn't even appear in the log. I don't know if this is my fault, like maybe I'm messing with the sliders too much, or I don't have the right ESP files enabled. Could you add something that pushes out to the log why the player is not valid, or not being checked? Edit: Some stuff from my testing. 1. I tried starting a new game and this time I installed SL P+. In the xpopsublevel1, there was no change (the NPCs there have regular sex, but they never involve the player). 2. I tried the palace in Solitude, It seems to identify many initiator NPCs (I think it went through every NPC there, both female and male), but no recipients (not NPC, not the player) were ever found, so no sex scenes started while I was here. There was at least one NPC wearing an outfit with a collar and cuffs, but for some reason they were never identified as a recipient. 3. It seems to work best with the arousal set to -2. I've noticed previously in my game (with the enforcer mod and other mods like PetCollar) that NPCs have an issue where until they have sex, they will never start any scenes. This means that the enforcer mod starts with only the agent NPCs initiating scenes, but when enough three person scenes have included male NPCs, there are many more male initiators. This is apparently NOT an issue when I coc into xpopsublevel1, since the NPCs there initiate regardless. FYI: I'm using OSLAroused, because it was the only one I found that worked with AE. Edit 2: I thought not having a follower might be a problem, so I summoned Lydia. Lydia IS included in the scenes but the player: still not. Edited May 6, 2024 by Tetras66
kaxat Posted May 14, 2024 Author Posted May 14, 2024 (edited) @Tetras66 That is interesting that you are not getting duplicate calls to CheckValidity(). That is a helpful detail. I think I know what happened. There is code to prevent simultaneous validity checks. But it looks like there was a couple code paths that could cause a validity check to end prematurely and not reset the state for a subsequent check. Thus you will never get a second chance to see if the player is valid. This is a new bug in v0.1.1. One I had not encountered yet because it won't happen every time. I uploaded a new version. v0.1.2 that will force a second check each time you start the game. Or when you disable and enable the mod in the MCM. Also it should properly reset no matter which path the code takes. Bug fixed? Just install and play. I bet your logs will show repeat checks. Each time you see CheckValidity() the next line or two should say either "SetInvalid()" or something like SetKeywords(Initiator=False; Recipient=TRUE) Updated keywords. IsKeyedValid=TRUE; IsKeyedInitiator=False; IsKeyedRecipient=TRUE So ultimately it does tell you the result of validity. SetKeywords with Recipient=TRUE means it is attempting to make the player a recipient. Further when it says Updated Keywords that means the status changed. It even double checks before logging telling you whether it actually set you to valid or not. That line is very informative. If for some reason you never see it then that means something is causing the script to prevent a double check. Hopefully that won't happen anymore. Edited May 18, 2024 by kaxat 2
kaxat Posted May 19, 2024 Author Posted May 19, 2024 I finally figured out why the mod was sometimes mistakenly treating the player and certain NPCs as whores. I use KID to distribute the whore keyword to any clothing with the word "wench" in it. Notably this impacts the vanilla Tavern Wench outfit, but I figured I would include any other modded outfits with the word Wench too. Bad idea. The keyword MagicDisallowEnchanting starts getting matched along side a couple other keywords I did not wish to target. This caused special items like Daedric artifacts and dragon masks to make ASF think the player was a slave. Whoops. New Version Released - v0.1.3 Fixes issue where some clothing mistakenly made people slaves. Recognizes a few more folks like Captain Aldis as soldiers. Simplified the logs a little bit. Does a better job of rechecking the player slave status when you reload the game. Useful if you are updating or changing settings. I also updated the list of requirements. I forgot to put Keyword Item Distributor (KID) on it.
Tetras66 Posted May 21, 2024 Posted May 21, 2024 (edited) On 5/14/2024 at 3:29 AM, kaxat said: @Tetras66 That is interesting that you are not getting duplicate calls to CheckValidity(). That is a helpful detail. I think I know what happened. I tried out the 0.1.2 just briefly and I think it fixed the calls because it looked like the behaviour was correct (i.e. exactly as you described), but I noticed that the player was always being reported as invalid. With the latest version 0.1.3 you mentioned about KID being a requirement and I realised I didn't have it! I downloaded it along with 0.1.3 and... it WORKS! Thanks for your efforts in resolving it. A few thoughts, from using the blue palace and xpopsublevel1. I think I can modify this myself by changing the configuration files, but might be of interest: - Sybille Stentor was declothed and I think treated as a servant, which seemed a bit odd. I think I'd have excluded wizards and vampires from this possibility. - Housecarls are treated as servants too and while that probably makes sense.., my preference is often to use Lydia as the master for the LOLA mod, so it didn't make sense for my game. - The female nobles in xpopsublevel1 were wearing fine clothes (my guess that's what they use) and the female bounty hunters were armoured, but I think they were all swept up in it too. From what I can recall the config files treat iron armor as a lower class item, right? So, I guess that'd be why. - When I uninstalled SexLab P+ (I was having issues with animations get stuck at the first stage, but I'd say that's unrelated to your mod), it seemed like a lot of the animations went from aggressive to just regular ones. I don't know if that is intended, I guess I can tune the ones I have available to SexLab. - After a scene involving the player, they seemed to be discounted for new scenes for quite awhile, but I'm not sure if that was a coincidence, or if not: what happened. Do the exclusion timers still count if the prompt player option in the MCM is disabled? Edited May 21, 2024 by Tetras66
Talesien Posted May 26, 2024 Posted May 26, 2024 (edited) Kinda stumbled upon this in the wake of your release of SES1.04 and just started a small test game with it. I wonder if we can use the SES2_DISTR.ini to blacklist or whitelist certain actors? Basically overruling the general rules. I guess if added after step 3, something like: "Keyword = SESNeverEnslave|Nirya" should work for blacklisting? And perhaps: "Keyword = SESSlave|Ysolda" for whitelisting? The only problem I see is that this might add different, perhaps even opposing keywords to the same actor. Edited May 26, 2024 by Talesien 1
kaxat Posted May 26, 2024 Author Posted May 26, 2024 (edited) 3 hours ago, Talesien said: Kinda stumbled upon this in the wake of your release of SES1.04 and just started a small test game with it. I wonder if we can use the SES2_DISTR.ini to blacklist or whitelist certain actors? Basically overruling the general rules. I guess if added after step 3, something like: "Keyword = SESNeverEnslave|Nirya" should work for blacklisting? And perhaps: "Keyword = SESSlave|Ysolda" for whitelisting? The only problem I see is that this might add different, perhaps even opposing keywords to the same actor. You can do that. Blacklist always takes precedence over whitelist. Basically the game assumes you blacklisted for a good reason. Edit: Also you do not have to use the SES_DISTR.ini file. You could create your own file. Maybe called Custom_DISTR.ini. Add rules in there. That will make it easier to update to newer versions. The new version won't override your file customizations when you install it. Edited May 26, 2024 by kaxat
Talesien Posted May 26, 2024 Posted May 26, 2024 (edited) 14 hours ago, kaxat said: You can do that. Blacklist always takes precedence over whitelist. Basically the game assumes you blacklisted for a good reason. Edit: Also you do not have to use the SES_DISTR.ini file. You could create your own file. Maybe called Custom_DISTR.ini. Add rules in there. That will make it easier to update to newer versions. The new version won't override your file customizations when you install it. Ok, if I understand you correctly if I apply the "SESNeverEnslave" keyword to an NPC, that will not get overwritten or ignored. If so, that would solve blacklisting indeed. How about whitelisting though? What if I want to make sure an NPC always gets enslaved, if I understood you correctly simply applying "SESSlave" might not work if SES_DISTR later adds SESNeverEnslave (or perhaps other keywords)? Edited May 26, 2024 by Talesien
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