vampire_knight Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Any sign of a solution to the problem of the Riften quest when one of the three targets for the mark of Dibella is dead? About the only thing you could do is use the console command to force complete Helga's quest. Since the next part of this mod starts after you finish that mod, so you should be able to console command it as finished and then talk to Svene and Helga to keep this mod going. Unfortunately the quest isn't available for me to use the console commands on, but it was a good suggestion and thanks for your post :-0
nutluck Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Unfortunately the quest isn't available for me to use the console commands on, but it was a good suggestion and thanks for your post :-0 This page shows all the quest stage numbers and quest id number. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Caught_Red_Handed So all you should need to do is open the console command and type in SetStage FreeformRiften11 70 That should take you to the end after you turn in the marks
nutluck Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 @nutluck and @Vithiss - Many thanks for the great suggestions. I added most of them to the to do list on Github (except for the orgy and a couple of ideas). Regarding the marks, you can use them in two ways. - to advance Fjotra's progression outside of the chapter 1 questline - to cash them out in exchange for a chance at earning a Perk point in the Skills menu (a gift from Dibella) I have a question about the perk points, how exactly are they earned? I ask because I think that is why my character had so many perk points and I was wondering where they came from. I know the mod is not done but would it be possible when you add a MCM menu to allow that to be turned off? Or at least so you can change how many marks is required to get a perk point? It is not a big deal I don't have to spend them but I had like 20 bonus ones, granted I turned in like 120 marks to see if it did anything more.
karlpaws Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Random thought I haven't looked into doing myself yet... how hard is it to add the PC to a faction when you equip an item and remove from faction when you remove the item. or to do something similar? Could you use the bandit friendly faction instead of calming hostile bandits? Pretty sure a mod did that with some of the armors, like stormcloak made you stormcloak faction. The hard part would be if it made you bandit faction having others not be hostile to you thing, and making others like forsworn friendly. It might be doable or it could be really complicated, I honestly don't know how to friendly faction function works. With that said though that would likely be a lot easier than calming cloak or at least less prone to breaking/causing issues. Yeah, I haven't looked completely into how faction reactions work either, but I have found there are a few factions that are friendly to "good" npcs and various crime groups, like the bandits. I was thinking of using the "banditfriendly" faction so bandits would be friendly to you, and guards as well. I've done addtofac in the console, but something connected to items that could be added and removed, possibly even tied into bondage, would be interesting. Now typing this I remember something with the devious devices mods, and either submit or defeat, in that if you were wearing items, bandits would rape instead of try to kill you. Now I have to go look that up.
nutluck Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Well it would be cool and I really know nothing about it, if it is doable and Skyrimll is interested in doing it, great. If not no worries, but nice idea karlpaws regardless.
Caldargo Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Great mod so far works fine for me accept for the outfit changing it dose not matter if I go pure or corrupted they do not change on the sisters or the sybil. The mod is very last in my load order. GameMode=SkyrimSkyrim.esm=1Update.esm=1Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1Dawnguard.esm=1Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1HearthFires.esm=1Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1Dragonborn.esm=1Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1ApachiiHair.esm=1ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1ApachiiHairMales.esm=1RaceCompatibility.esm=1hdtHighHeel.esm=1SexLab.esm=1HentaiPregnancy.esm=1SexLabAroused.esm=1ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1SharedSeranaDialogue.esm=1MFVM.esm=1Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1FISS.esp=1AMatterOfTime.esp=1a quality world map - with roads.esp=1LoversHook.esp=1MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1SexLab sx3.esp=1SexLabSquirt.esp=1RaceMenu.esp=1RaceMenuPluginXPMSE.esp=1SkyUI.esp=1AsharaPartyOutfit.esp=1AsharaWeddingOutfit.esp=1day walker ring.esp=1Futa equippable.esp=1NN_ArwenWBDresses.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp=1R18pn - lingerie Set.esp=1TERAArmors_CBBE.esp=1SeraphineHuntedArmor.esp=1DarkStandalone.esp=1Shiny Catsuits.esp=1Ballet Boots.esp=1aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp=1Dread Knight Weapon Set.esp=1Medieval Furor from Oblivion.esp=1The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp=1NonStopMiningAndChopping.esp=1ingots.esp=1HPSoulGemBirth.esp=1Better Vampires.esp=1Predator Vision.esp=1StripNPCs.esp=1FNISspells.esp=1morechancetodecap.esp=1100XCarryWeight.esp=1Double Effect.esp=1SexLabDefeat.esp=1SexLab Submit.esp=1Brows.esp=1flanseyesforskrim.esp=1The Ningheim.esp=1TemptressVixen.esp=1JessicaAlbaDemonHunter.esp=1Marriable Serana.esp=1Marriable Serana HF.esp=1BVFE_Serana.esp=1NGGirls.esp=1Skyla.esp=1EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp=1EMViljaInSolstheimAddOn.esp=1AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp=1AFT_ManagedFollowerBoost.esp=1AFT_NoFriendlySpellDamage.esp=1dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1barenziahquestmarkers.esp=1DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp=1Animated Dragon Wings.esp=1SexCrop.esp=1SexLab Submit Serana.esp=1SpousesEnhanced.esp=1SpousesEnhanced_Serana.esp=1SSv2.esp=1MoreNastyCritters.esp=1SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1HentaiCreatures.esp=1SexLabWerewolves.esp=1SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp=1Abigail The Maid.esp=1Rowana Follower.esp=1Seductress Elizabeth.esp=1rtZuleikaFollower.esp=1TDC - Female Follower Pack - CBBE.esp=1AliciaPainSlut.esp=1Bag of Holding.esp=1Hair Physics Project.esp=1AzarHairPonyTail 03 - Havok.esp=1HDT Female Hairstyles.esp=1MeridaHair.esp=1NewmillerPiercings2.esp=1NewmillerPiercings3.esp=1GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp=1FS_UltimateAssortment.esp=1MFVM_Hearthfire_Patch.esp=1Save the Dark Brotherhood!.esp=1DarkbroSanctuary.esp=1Thieves Guild Overhaul.esp=1MiasLair.esp=1Cute Adoptable.esp=1BeautifulVampires.esp=1NewVampChainsArmor.esp=1MySkyrimTweeks.esp=1MySkyrimNPCs.esp=1SexLab_DibellaCult.esp=1
DeepBlueFrog Posted May 14, 2015 Author Posted May 14, 2015 @Caldargo - You seem to be missing the Sisters add-on (read the section in red at the top of the download page). That add-on handles outfit customization and changes according to the corruption of the temple.
DeepBlueFrog Posted May 14, 2015 Author Posted May 14, 2015 I have a question for improvements. I added an option to donate something from your own inventory to the Temple, regardless of your gender or which quest you are on. So far, there is no reward when you do so... it's a donation, why should you get a reward? But that feels like a useless detail without a reward. My question... what could you get as a reward from donating to the temple without it feeling like a reward?
DeepBlueFrog Posted May 14, 2015 Author Posted May 14, 2015 I dunno. Oral? *coughs* Other than sex? There is plenty of sex in the mod already... you can't talk to the Sybil or the Sisters without getting sex out of the deal.
Caldargo Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 I take it this is the add on download DibellaSisterhoodSisters121.7z I just downloaded it and installed will check to see if works now thanks for the help skyrimLL
nutluck Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Have the donations you add count as the donations get from wearing the wreath. Which I assume makes the temple more powerful, perhaps if you are going down the pure patch it helps cleanse the temple and if you go down the corrupt path it helps corrupt the temple. Have each only do it a little bit, it would be a small gain, give you reason to do it but not really feel like a reward. Or maybe for every x number of donations you get a better sisters outfit or something.
DeepBlueFrog Posted May 14, 2015 Author Posted May 14, 2015 Have the donations you add count as the donations get from wearing the wreath. Which I assume makes the temple more powerful, perhaps if you are going down the pure patch it helps cleanse the temple and if you go down the corrupt path it helps corrupt the temple. Have each only do it a little bit, it would be a small gain, give you reason to do it but not really feel like a reward. Or maybe for every x number of donations you get a better sisters outfit or something. I have no way of intercepting items you give to sisters to count them since I am using the gift menu. It has to be a generic reward.
nutluck Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Then maybe better sister outfits if that is something you can do. Though you would need to make them for CBBE and UNP. Or maybe a dibella wreath, you start with a initiates I think it is called. Say for every x number of them you get a new wreath, the new wreath gives a +10 to get people to agree to donate, maybe have 6 levels of wreath's +0 - +50. It would be a minor reward that wouldn't mean much outside of the quest only make doing the parts of the quest easier.
nutluck Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Ok since someone mentioned the key in the temple bath I loaded the save I kept there and looked again. I did finally find the bath, the hint was skyrimll was when you mentioned there was more than one statue. You might want to add that in the dialogue that they have seen her praying at both statues.
RDKateran Posted May 15, 2015 Posted May 15, 2015 Okay, in all seriousness... As far as donations go, if you want to give a reward to players without it coming off as an actual reward, you can always have the act grant a temporary passive buff, like how donating coin to beggars gives you a buff to speechcraft. Culture-wise you keep the definition of donation, and players still get something out of it.
KiraAcoh Posted May 15, 2015 Posted May 15, 2015 I have a question for improvements. I added an option to donate something from your own inventory to the Temple, regardless of your gender or which quest you are on. So far, there is no reward when you do so... it's a donation, why should you get a reward? But that feels like a useless detail without a reward. My question... what could you get as a reward from donating to the temple without it feeling like a reward? I guess this sort of falls under a reward, but: If you donate x amount worth gold in items, you can "unlock" something, like maybe a daily spell... or access to "items" only the sisterhood has access to. Whether it be some fancy clothing (with maybe some enchants) or just some "play toys". Have the donations you add count as the donations get from wearing the wreath. Which I assume makes the temple more powerful, perhaps if you are going down the pure patch it helps cleanse the temple and if you go down the corrupt path it helps corrupt the temple. Have each only do it a little bit, it would be a small gain, give you reason to do it but not really feel like a reward. Or maybe for every x number of donations you get a better sisters outfit or something. I have no way of intercepting items you give to sisters to count them since I am using the gift menu. It has to be a generic reward. Perhaps you can use one particular NPC to give items to, to trigger such an event?
DeepBlueFrog Posted May 15, 2015 Author Posted May 15, 2015 I put together a short walkthrough about the main quests of the mod in a wiki page in Github. I wrote it mostly from memory, so it could be still incomplete. Let me know if you find anything unclear or missing.
nutluck Posted May 15, 2015 Posted May 15, 2015 Nice walk through, for the most part the quest as is, is pretty easy to figure out. Only things I was lost on, was if there was a reason to keep gathering donations and what exactly the marks did after a certain points. But those are for chapter 2 it seems. So once the mod is complete they shouldn't be a issue. The only thing I had trouble with was the key, maybe it should have been easier but I had a real hard time with the key and needed more clues to find it.
nutluck Posted May 16, 2015 Posted May 16, 2015 Ok I logged back in at the end since I read the walk through and it mentions a new station in the baths. I have comments, will put them in spoiler tags. Ok I would reverse the last statue with the previous one, the new statue look more like a partnership and the one before looks more like Sam is in a dominate position which fits better I think. Also I like the new agents down in the basement. I couldn't talk to them, not sure if you are suppose to or not be able to talk to them. They would occasionally have silent dialogue they would say to me like it was meant to start a scene but nothing would happen. I waited around for about 20 mins and the only thing that happened is while trying out the x cross after I got off the flame ant suddenly had sex with my character. So I am guessing there is suppose to be some random sex happening, if so it doesn't seem to trigger much. But they are a nice touch, though they are wearing boots, gloves and helmet which seems a bit weird. Why not be completely naked? I am guessing you will do more with them in chapter 2, but it would be nice if they would sandbox around the temple at least the baths and inner sanctum area and have sex with the other sister as well. Thought you might have that planned but in chapter 2. Anyways just offering some feedback on this little part.
Guest marieruth Posted May 16, 2015 Posted May 16, 2015 Does anyone know if there's a UNP version of the Juri outfit that supports weight sliders? I found UNP versions of all the rest of the outfits, but I just need that one.
nutluck Posted May 16, 2015 Posted May 16, 2015 Does anyone know if there's a UNP version of the Juri outfit that supports weight sliders? I found UNP versions of all the rest of the outfits, but I just need that one. No but if you get all the rest and know how to package it, it would be a nice option to put up in the download section for those that want the outfits but want to use UNP bodies.
DeepBlueFrog Posted May 16, 2015 Author Posted May 16, 2015 Ok I logged back in at the end since I read the walk through and it mentions a new station in the baths. I have comments, will put them in spoiler tags. Ok I would reverse the last statue with the previous one, the new statue look more like a partnership and the one before looks more like Sam is in a dominate position which fits better I think. Also I like the new agents down in the basement. I couldn't talk to them, not sure if you are suppose to or not be able to talk to them. They would occasionally have silent dialogue they would say to me like it was meant to start a scene but nothing would happen. I waited around for about 20 mins and the only thing that happened is while trying out the x cross after I got off the flame ant suddenly had sex with my character. So I am guessing there is suppose to be some random sex happening, if so it doesn't seem to trigger much. But they are a nice touch, though they are wearing boots, gloves and helmet which seems a bit weird. Why not be completely naked? I am guessing you will do more with them in chapter 2, but it would be nice if they would sandbox around the temple at least the baths and inner sanctum area and have sex with the other sister as well. Thought you might have that planned but in chapter 2. Anyways just offering some feedback on this little part. Yes... there will be plans along those lines The last statue represents the union of Sanguine and Dibella... as in, Dibella gave in to her attraction for Sanguine. The domineering statue before that represents Sanguine breaking her in.
Guest marieruth Posted May 16, 2015 Posted May 16, 2015 Does anyone know if there's a UNP version of the Juri outfit that supports weight sliders? I found UNP versions of all the rest of the outfits, but I just need that one. No but if you get all the rest and know how to package it, it would be a nice option to put up in the download section for those that want the outfits but want to use UNP bodies. I don't think that's a good idea since I didn't actually do anything to alter the files. I just just searched online for each outfit to see if they had a SevenBase Bombshell conversion of it, since that is what I use. I don't know if Sevenbase armors would go fine with UNP, but I assumed that Sevenbase is UNP-based, so I thought there wouldn't be any problems outside of minimal clipping or something..
iggypop1 Posted May 16, 2015 Posted May 16, 2015 7B yes tried to find that as well i got the jewelery but miss the rest so if you find them.......... post it please
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