Sex Mod Framework - Development Discussion

[DocClox]

Once again, I'd ask that we leave this thread for discussion of the technical issues around creating a new sex framework. There are plenty of threads that can be used to debate the relative merits of the game, including what effect they might have on the modding scene. Let's keep this thread for purely technical stuff. Otherwise any useful information will be lost, swamped in the inevtiable "Oh yes it is!"/"Oh no it isn't!" that represents the usual cut-and-thrust of Starfield debates.

 

On 1/11/2024 at 11:33 PM, vallixas said:

Now if we can get some to start porting Skyrim/Fallout animation mods

 

The biggest problem, technically speaking, is that we need some way to launch animations from papyrus. That won't happen until the SFSE devs include Papyrus integration, and I don't think they're planning that until they get a CK and official versions of the vanilla scripts. So that's the major roadblock at the moment. Until we can solve that, anything we do is basically screen archery.

 

Speaking of which, Maxie's Screen Archer Menu from Fallout 4 has been ported to Starfield, along with a number of Fallout and Skyrim poses, including the Gunslicer ones. So anyone who basically wants to do Starfield story blogging or similar can probably do so with what we have already.

Edited January 18, 2024 by DocClox

[brown66]

Maybe this mod will help the modders here.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/8167

[modder focker]

Do we have a date for CK launch? I just want to bang Andreja and Sarah

[MysticDaedra]

2 hours ago, modder focker said:

Do we have a date for CK launch? I just want to bang Andreja and Sarah

"Early 2024" is the latest and most specific date we have at the moment. I think most people expect something by the end of February, March at the latest... It is in Bethesda's (and Microsoft's) best interest to get the CK modding tools out as quickly as possible, because they know that mods are what both attract people to keep coming back to their games, and are the single source of the longevity of Bethesda titles.

 

Other than the drama around NAF for Fallout 4, I know snapdragon is working on a version of NAF for Starfield as well. It would be fantastic to get integration with those features/functions, as in-game animating could be a huge benefit to the scene.

[ebbluminous]

15 minutes ago, MysticDaedra said:

"Early 2024" is the latest and most specific date we have at the moment. I think most people expect something by the end of February, March at the latest... It is in Bethesda's (and Microsoft's) best interest to get the CK modding tools out as quickly as possible, because they know that mods are what both attract people to keep coming back to their games, and are the single source of the longevity of Bethesda titles.

 

Other than the drama around NAF for Fallout 4, I know snapdragon is working on a version of NAF for Starfield as well. It would be fantastic to get integration with those features/functions, as in-game animating could be a huge benefit to the scene.

SF NAF been out for a bit. Surprised someone not gone reeeeeeeeeeeee bout it

[CaptainSmash]

2 hours ago, modder focker said:

Do we have a date for CK launch? I just want to bang Andreja and Sarah

My best guess at the moment going by what they did with fallout, They did not release the creation kit until April after the first DLC Automatron which was in March. So I would say for Starfield a month or two after the Shattered Space DLC.

[MysticDaedra]

2 hours ago, CaptainSmash said:

My best guess at the moment going by what they did with fallout, They did not release the creation kit until April after the first DLC Automatron which was in March. So I would say for Starfield a month or two after the Shattered Space DLC.

Based on what Bethesda has said, I think your guess should be reversed: CK soon, Shattered Space likely Q3 or Q4. They said "early 2024" for CK, but just "2024" for SS.

[CaptainSmash]

8 hours ago, MysticDaedra said:

Based on what Bethesda has said, I think your guess should be reversed: CK soon, Shattered Space likely Q3 or Q4. They said "early 2024" for CK, but just "2024" for SS.

Thanks for that👍 As always time will tell.

[Strec2]

1 hour ago, CaptainSmash said:

Thanks for that👍 As always time will tell.

 

And money.

 

While the sales will be good the interest of Microsoft Bethesda is to take time and to launch the DLC first, and it's now enforced by the fact that the gamePass users did not (for now) pay for the game but will surely pay for the DLC 😗

 

Modding is a spare wheel.

Edited January 22, 2024 by Strec2

[CaptainSmash]

33 minutes ago, Strec2 said:

 

And money.

 

While the sales will be good the interest of Microsoft Bethesda is to take time and to launch the DLC first, and it's now enforced by the fact that the gamePass users did not (for now) pay for the game but will surely pay for the DLC 😗

 

Modding is a spare wheel.

Yea that's what I'm thinking. It seemed strange to bring the CK out straight after the main release and not after the first DLC had been on sale like they had for Fallout and Skyrim.

[Halstrom]

On 1/22/2024 at 11:17 PM, CaptainSmash said:

Yea that's what I'm thinking. It seemed strange to bring the CK out straight after the main release and not after the first DLC had been on sale like they had for Fallout and Skyrim.

Its also much harder for any company to bugfix a new release when half the bugs reported are caused by noobie modding

Edited January 24, 2024 by Halstrom

[brown66]

I think this mod is important for modders.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/8262?tab=files

[brown66]

And one more mod that is interesting. It seems to already come "armed" with an essential bone.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/8283

[Mr. Otaku]

On 1/30/2024 at 5:34 AM, brown66 said:

And one more mod that is interesting. It seems to already come "armed" with an essential bone.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/8283

 

Is this gonna be the XP32 of Starfield? Aight fuck it we're doing it now, we're getting sex in space fr

 

[Varithina]

On 1/6/2024 at 7:34 PM, -Ayleth- said:

I really do hope it will be as rugged as Sexlab. You add 1 tiny wrong .xml to AAF in Fallout 4 and the whole thing breaks, Sexlab never let me down meanwhile. ❤️

 

Yup, AAF is probably one of the most fragile frameworks in these games I have seen, I would sort of expected there to be some sort of check in the framework itself to test animation packs and if they fail it simply ignores them, logging the error, nope instead it basically kills the framework.

[CaptainSmash]

2 hours ago, Varithina said:

 

Yup, AAF is probably one of the most fragile frameworks in these games I have seen, I would sort of expected there to be some sort of check in the framework itself to test animation packs and if they fail it simply ignores them, logging the error, nope instead it basically kills the framework.

Hmm not 100% sure but I think Flashy the developer of R.S.E was heading towards that goal. before leaving the community.

[Djlegends]

On 2/1/2024 at 2:20 PM, Varithina said:

 

Yup, AAF is probably one of the most fragile frameworks in these games I have seen, I would sort of expected there to be some sort of check in the framework itself to test animation packs and if they fail it simply ignores them, logging the error, nope instead it basically kills the framework.

btw we just got a better alternative of AAF btw call NAF which AAF devs came quick to gaslight him lmfao
tested it and its 10 times better than AAF shit

[ebbluminous]

8 minutes ago, Djlegends said:

btw we just got a better alternative of AAF btw call NAF which AAF devs came quick to gaslight him lmfao
tested it and its 10 times better than AAF shit

Old news. Move along

[Djlegends]

5 hours ago, ebbluminous said:

Old news. Move along

yea ik now it got the OG modder of AAF finally added features that a regular did under 100 hrs lmfao

[Halstrom]

4 hours ago, Djlegends said:

yea ik now it got the OG modder of AAF finally added features that a regular did under 100 hrs lmfao

Before we get into a kicking session, don't forget without AAF we would have had to wait around 8years without Sex mods for NAF and there would be very few animation packs for NAF to use now that FO4 is in its twilight, yeah LYFAO...

Edited February 4, 2024 by Halstrom

[Strec2]

New generation, everything NOW!!!

[Djlegends]

19 hours ago, Halstrom said:

Before we get into a kicking session, don't forget without AAF we would have had to wait around 8years without Sex mods for NAF and there would be very few animation packs for NAF to use now that FO4 is in its twilight, yeah LYFAO...

yea yea ik 
kindof reminds me of the whole osex with ostim situation with dev of Osex came, broke ostim compatability, realized nobody was using osex, and just left

[Djlegends]

but rather just ed the topic since don't want to go deeper and so on

[Mr. Otaku]

On 2/4/2024 at 6:12 AM, Djlegends said:

btw we just got a better alternative of AAF btw call NAF which AAF devs came quick to gaslight him lmfao
tested it and its 10 times better than AAF shit

Wait what's this? What happened? I heard about this "NAF" stuff late last year but didn't catch up on stuff, do we finally have a better replacement? What's the drama?

[Djlegends]

10 hours ago, Mr. Otaku said:

Wait what's this? What happened? I heard about this "NAF" stuff late last year but didn't catch up on stuff, do we finally have a better replacement? What's the drama?

ran faster just like Ostim but moderators + author got mad and taken down all threads talking about NAF