Sex Mod Framework - Development Discussion

[Trykz]

1 hour ago, BurgerBob7 said:

So it seems milky way vixen is busy with other projects we seriously need a body mod for bodyslide so tired of sff and his inability to accept community feedback.

 

I'm not miffed by that honestly.

 

MWV is "okay", but that's it. Just..... okay. Personally, I think just a proper vanilla body modification (with more morphs and good physics) would be good. A lot of clothing and spacesuit mods are already made for it. Even ones like KZ's and EIT have vanilla versions. And then there's StarQueen.

[Fiesta72]

16 hours ago, Trykz said:

 

I'm not miffed by that honestly.

 

MWV is "okay", but that's it. Just..... okay. Personally, I think just a proper vanilla body modification (with more morphs and good physics) would be good. A lot of clothing and spacesuit mods are already made for it. Even ones like KZ's and EIT have vanilla versions. And then there's StarQueen.

True just wish more folks would transition over to bodyslide but i guess we will have to wait for that.

[sandmanalfa]

Does anyone know how to make animations for SAF using IK?

I finally got a basic mod working with a working animation, the problem is animations are an absolute BITCH to do currently, I am using blender, I am us0ing a rig I got from the SnuSnu mod, a blend file that includes the skeleton and a mesh, but everything is animated like toy story from the 90s, an absolute nightmare. I tried cascadeur (autorigs skeletons and enables Ik and then fills inbetween frames with AI making smooth animations much easier to do) with no success, exporting a glb file makes my character turn into a flesh pretzel in game.

We really need someone to streamline animating for this game and it could take off, I saw there are rigs for cascadeur for skyrim, we need something similar for Starfield because animating right now is a black box

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/121536 

[remodel]

How would I use Outfit Studio loaded on FO4 nexus site for Starfield?

 

I have VBB and BBL with Starqueen skin, a compromise because they use morphs.   I use Zone79 clothing and spacesuits (which aren't updated to free lanes)  and KZ's recently updated clothing.  My biggest problem with these are quality and legendary crafting (no damn consistency, especially with Zone79 stuff), not fit and form.

 

I would use Bodyslide and Outfit studio frequently in Skyrim.  But using it in Starfield would be complex given that there is very little consistency between bodies and clothes.

 

As much as I would like to see all this come about, I just don't see it happening until you get both female and male bodies with decent polygons and collisions.  What Kristi did for the male body was brilliant in Skyrim and there were so many good and decent female bodies.  Haters Male Replacer Body (I'm using it) is working on a male body but needs help; he's asking.  The MWV author probably could use some help if he'd accept it.

 

So to all mod makers I beg you to offer them help.  I would, but have no ability with graphics, especially blender.  I was a database and interface developer.  If I had a bigger SSD I'd download the creation kit and fix that damn industrial bench, that's right up my alley.

[Djlegends]

11 hours ago, remodel said:

How would I use Outfit Studio loaded on FO4 nexus site for Starfield?

 

I have VBB and BBL with Starqueen skin, a compromise because they use morphs.   I use Zone79 clothing and spacesuits (which aren't updated to free lanes)  and KZ's recently updated clothing.  My biggest problem with these are quality and legendary crafting (no damn consistency, especially with Zone79 stuff), not fit and form.

 

I would use Bodyslide and Outfit studio frequently in Skyrim.  But using it in Starfield would be complex given that there is very little consistency between bodies and clothes.

 

As much as I would like to see all this come about, I just don't see it happening until you get both female and male bodies with decent polygons and collisions.  What Kristi did for the male body was brilliant in Skyrim and there were so many good and decent female bodies.  Haters Male Replacer Body (I'm using it) is working on a male body but needs help; he's asking.  The MWV author probably could use some help if he'd accept it.

 

So to all mod makers I beg you to offer them help.  I would, but have no ability with graphics, especially blender.  I was a database and interface developer.  If I had a bigger SSD I'd download the creation kit and fix that damn industrial bench, that's right up my alley.

well it shouldn't be that hard to use OS foir SF. with ousinus guidance i made the workflow as close to the workflows like prior titles and still respect SF new file type. the issue atm is that there so many dam body variations that its like the olden days of skyrim LE. the community need to band together to agree on one core body mod that will be the foundation of SF: build for outfit modelers + preset makers and optimized for gameplay and screenarchery. i had a separate post discussing with other people that has been here longer than me on what that could possible be

[remodel]

12 hours ago, Djlegends said:

well it shouldn't be that hard to use OS foir SF. with ousinus guidance i made

Oops, I wasn't clear.  What would I use it on, fitting clothing to my selected body, VBB and BBL with Starqueen skin?  I believe I have all the sexy stuff and it all fit's ( KZ and Zone79 clothing).  Are there clothing packs I've missed?

 

VBB set at 50 weight allows fitting of all vanilla clothing covering SFF clothes and the Zone79 ZBB body with just a bit of clipping.  That leaves MWV and a limited amount of clothing.  When I checked several months ago I didn't like them; though the bodies are good.  The mons pubis on VBB just looks like a gash/wound, but the clothes fit.

 

Has anyone used OS to fix KZ and Zone79 clothing fits for the MWV body?   Now this would be nice.

 

Hopefully, I'll be able to use your work soon.  Looking forward to it,  I thank you for what your doing.  I'll be following.

[Djlegends]

15 hours ago, remodel said:

Oops, I wasn't clear.  What would I use it on, fitting clothing to my selected body, VBB and BBL with Starqueen skin?  I believe I have all the sexy stuff and it all fit's ( KZ and Zone79 clothing).  Are there clothing packs I've missed?

 

VBB set at 50 weight allows fitting of all vanilla clothing covering SFF clothes and the Zone79 ZBB body with just a bit of clipping.  That leaves MWV and a limited amount of clothing.  When I checked several months ago I didn't like them; though the bodies are good.  The mons pubis on VBB just looks like a gash/wound, but the clothes fit.

 

Has anyone used OS to fix KZ and Zone79 clothing fits for the MWV body?   Now this would be nice.

 

Hopefully, I'll be able to use your work soon.  Looking forward to it,  I thank you for what your doing.  I'll be following.

MWV for the forseable future is not looking to support OS. neither is SFF.
hmm are you trying to use VBB and BBL?

[remodel]

8 hours ago, Djlegends said:

hmm are you trying to use VBB and BBL?

I'm not trying, I am using VBB and BBL and they are working perfectly together with Starqueen Skin to my amateur knowledge.  The main trick is to use the 50% weight for the VBB body.  So far with no error's I can find but a couple of minor clippings at the shoulders for a few outfits like Stargym exercise outfit, If there's clipping on my major outfits I don't notice it.  I'm at level 81 now and about to do the unity.  I had to edit the folders according to instructions in the posts to get VBB to work.  I forget what I had to do for BBL, but another update broke it.  And I recently had to substitute a rebuilt DLL for CharGenMenu; author is not fast to update.  Oh, and there are some skin tears on dead bodies but what the hell they're mangled and dead.

 

The only clothing that doesn't work with my body is the MWV clothing line.  Everything else I tried does.

 

The biggest fault with this body is the vulva and Mons,  The vagina looks almost like a gash or wound.  With other bodies I've tried I had ugly seams at the forearms, neck shoulder, and pelvis. Now only occasionally minor seams if I'm looking for them. 

 

I would love to use your OS if I had a reason.  I just posted this info on the nexus mod "Cortana Redone"; a form fitting clothing an spacesuit mod, that is updated for FreeLanes. Check it out.  Maybe, this will give me a reason if OS works with VBB & BBL.

 

Please understand I seem to be able to hack game script but not actually code much for the games.  I have very little knowledge of making graphics and I tried with blender for a month with Skyrim SE/AE and got nowhere but a few changed vertices.  But I'm fairly good at piecing things together.  I could be a reasonable tester though.

 

I'm unable to get on Discord because I bollixed my sign on trying to add a verification for one site and ended up creating a second sign in which conflicts with my original sign on.   Instructions to fix are circular and never resolves my mistake, I've given up.  No support to talk/chat with on Discord, last I checked.  I would dearly love to get the latest Beta MO2 for Starfield.

[Djlegends]

8 hours ago, remodel said:

I'm not trying, I am using VBB and BBL and they are working perfectly together with Starqueen Skin to my amateur knowledge.  The main trick is to use the 50% weight for the VBB body.  So far with no error's I can find but a couple of minor clippings at the shoulders for a few outfits like Stargym exercise outfit, If there's clipping on my major outfits I don't notice it.  I'm at level 81 now and about to do the unity.  I had to edit the folders according to instructions in the posts to get VBB to work.  I forget what I had to do for BBL, but another update broke it.  And I recently had to substitute a rebuilt DLL for CharGenMenu; author is not fast to update.  Oh, and there are some skin tears on dead bodies but what the hell they're mangled and dead.

 

The only clothing that doesn't work with my body is the MWV clothing line.  Everything else I tried does.

 

The biggest fault with this body is the vulva and Mons,  The vagina looks almost like a gash or wound.  With other bodies I've tried I had ugly seams at the forearms, neck shoulder, and pelvis. Now only occasionally minor seams if I'm looking for them. 

 

I would love to use your OS if I had a reason.  I just posted this info on the nexus mod "Cortana Redone"; a form fitting clothing an spacesuit mod, that is updated for FreeLanes. Check it out.  Maybe, this will give me a reason if OS works with VBB & BBL.

 

Please understand I seem to be able to hack game script but not actually code much for the games.  I have very little knowledge of making graphics and I tried with blender for a month with Skyrim SE/AE and got nowhere but a few changed vertices.  But I'm fairly good at piecing things together.  I could be a reasonable tester though.

 

I'm unable to get on Discord because I bollixed my sign on trying to add a verification for one site and ended up creating a second sign in which conflicts with my original sign on.   Instructions to fix are circular and never resolves my mistake, I've given up.  No support to talk/chat with on Discord, last I checked.  I would dearly love to get the latest Beta MO2 for Starfield.

hmm...