Which POST-APOCOLYPSE world would you want to live in?

[AKM]

Of these, natural disasters happen all the time, so we know what happens and thus how to prepare for them.  That said, THE problem is going to wind up being disease.  #1. Undrinkable water.  #2. Getting a cut and it gets infected, #3. The System going down and having to fight others for supplies/defend your supplies.

All of this goes right back to what Doctor Cadaver says: Strength in numbers.  You'd effectively wind up starting from scratch and forming your own society on a much smaller scale.  This is where friends with diversified, yet specialized, skills comes in handy.

I find it funny that the preparers (preppers) catch a bunch of shit.  You always do when you prepare for the worst in good times.

[Varithina]

3 hours ago, Doctor Cadaver said:

I guess you haven't heard the term, 'strength in numbers' before.

 

Yes, the uncountable hoards of mother nature and her corpse clean up detail, aka flies and the maggots they lay on the flesh that then eat said flesh, as well as the countless other creatures that eat dead flesh, and a pack of jackals are not going to have that much problem with a slow moving zombie, and unless something very funky is going on with the zombies, they would not last more than a couple of years maximum, just from the general decay of the corpses.

[Miauzi]

Zombie?

Yes great "concept" - besides the natural decay that has to be stopped for such an undead ... how does its energy balance work?

I only say one word now -> metabolism

[bjornk]

1 hour ago, Miauzi said:

Zombie?

Yes great "concept" - besides the natural decay that has to be stopped for such an undead ... how does its energy balance work?

 

Spoiler

 

If zombies are indeed dead, then they are basically overweight skeletons, in which case magic is definitely involved to keep them moving, seeing, hearing etc. If still living with minimal lower brain functions, then they can still die of hunger/thirst, can still get sick and continue to age etc and eventually die.

 

 

 

[Miauzi]

Vor 19 Minuten sagte Bjornk:

 

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Wenn Zombies tatsächlich tot sind, handelt es sich im Grunde genommen um übergewichtige Skelette. In diesem Fall ist definitiv Magie erforderlich, um sie in Bewegung, zum Sehen, zum Hören usw. zu halten. Wenn sie noch mit minimalen unteren Gehirnfunktionen leben, können sie immer noch an Hunger/Durst sterben werde immer noch krank, altere weiter usw. und sterbe schließlich.

 

 

 

 

Well - magic is always invoked when "normal" natural science has long since "disappeared" with a loud cry of frustration.

If the gaps in the wall are big enough for dragons to fly through - they are filled with magic.

And this magic is inexhaustible - it is not used up ... Strange - why then does the player always have these limitations.

 

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Edited June 20, 2023 by Miauzi

[Guest]

8 hours ago, Miauzi said:

 

Well - magic is always invoked when "normal" natural science has long since "disappeared" with a loud cry of frustration.

If the gaps in the wall are big enough for dragons to fly through - they are filled with magic.

And this magic is inexhaustible - it is not used up ... Strange - why then does the player always have these limitations.

 

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I have a better explanation. IT'S FICTION. It's not supposed to follow the laws and logic of reality.

[Varithina]

14 hours ago, Doctor Cadaver said:

If you can somehow find a way to prevent anymore people from getting infected.  Otherwise, zombification might as well be another form of procreation.

 

EDIT:  Even animals can get infected.

 

 

Not in most zombie apocalypse's they can not, and it was never stated which one it was we were in, for most of them, it is human only, and it does not really matter if you can or can not stop people becoming zombies, if it can be stopped fine, if not it does not matter, as other people will stop the from zombifying as things get better, in most cases simply crushing their skulls work fine, in such a place it would become the normal part of dealing with human corpses, and even if more zombies appear, it does not matter as after the veritable banquet provided by the start of things, moma natures clean up army will be huge, after all most insects breed very very quickly with a ready supply of food, and there are quite a few breeds of insects that have no problem eating carrion, which is basically what a zombie is, mobile true, but still carrion, and even if you are ignoring insects there are plenty of animals that will also quite happily eat carrion, feral dogs will, as will pigs, and guess how man of those things are going to be running around.

Edited June 20, 2023 by Varithina

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, Varithina said:

 

Not in most zombie apocalypse's they can not, and it was never stated which one it was we were in, for most of them, it is human only, and it does not really matter if you can or can not stop people becoming zombies, if it can be stopped fine, if not it does not matter, as other people will stop the from zombifying as things get better, in most cases simply crushing their skulls work fine, in such a place it would become the normal part of dealing with human corpses, and even if more zombies appear, it does not matter as after the veritable banquet provided by the start of things, moma natures clean up army will be huge, after all most insects breed very very quickly with a ready supply of food, and there are quite a few breeds of insects that have no problem eating carrion, which is basically what a zombie is, mobile true, but still carrion, and even if you are ignoring insects there are plenty of animals that will also quite happily eat carrion, feral dogs will, as will pigs, and guess how man of those things are going to be running around.

The examples I used for the different types of apocalypses are the versions you're dealing with, because those are the most popular (at least to my knowledge). In other words, zombies don't decay as fast as dead bodies and thus stay around longer, people are already infected and will turn if their brains aren't destroyed, and eating zombie flesh will cause you to turn. I thought by having those examples next to the type of apocalypse would be clear enough, but I guess I should have made that more clear.

[Miauzi]

Vor 15 Minuten sagte deadjester226:

Die Beispiele, die ich für die verschiedenen Arten von Apokalypsen verwendet habe, sind die Versionen, mit denen Sie es zu tun haben, da diese (zumindest meines Wissens) am beliebtesten sind. Mit anderen Worten: Zombies verwesen nicht so schnell wie Leichen und bleiben daher länger in der Nähe. Menschen sind bereits infiziert und verwandeln sich, wenn ihr Gehirn nicht zerstört wird, und wenn Sie Zombiefleisch essen, werden Sie verwandelt. Ich dachte, wenn man diese Beispiele neben der Art der Apokalypse hätte, wäre das klar genug, aber ich denke, ich hätte das klarer machen sollen.

 

I would say "Resident Evil" ... whereby I mean more the games than the (very badly made) films.

At least there is something like a body's own metabolism and we are not dealing with the "living" dead.

But that's just a sfi approach - more or less and not a fairytale fantasy like the "normal" zombi numbers.

[NickNozownik]

Zombie apocalypse. Loot what is left, leave one bullet for myself. I'll just chill, enjoy free booze and occasional target practice. If shit hits the fan then I'll get high on meds and kill as many of those fuckers as I can. I probably won't survive for very long but at least I'll have some fun. It's not that bad.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, NickNozownik said:

If shit hits the fan then I'll get high on meds and kill as many of those fuckers as I can. I probably won't survive for very long but at least I'll have some fun. It's not that bad.

If you're going down, might as well go down in a blaze of glory, eh? I can admire that. The "getting high" part, not as much, but still. To be fair, at that point, I doubt that it'll matter.

[Guest]

On 6/20/2023 at 12:53 PM, Miauzi said:

 

I would say "Resident Evil" ... whereby I mean more the games than the (very badly made) films.

At least there is something like a body's own metabolism and we are not dealing with the "living" dead.

But that's just a sfi approach - more or less and not a fairytale fantasy like the "normal" zombi numbers.

I've never played the Resident Evil games nor seen the movies, but I get your point.

[---nikoli]

For me, from the listed options, it would have to be a zombie apocalypse. As long as they were like the zombies and people on the T.V. show.

 

As slow and brain-dead as they are (living and dead alike) the only way you could die, or even by discomforted is to be terminally stupid like deciding to take a nap in the same room with the dead or associate in any way with the living.

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

On 6/20/2023 at 4:01 AM, Miauzi said:

how does its energy balance work?

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 26, 2023 by Heroine HoneyCrotch

[Guest]

1 hour ago, nikoli grimm said:

For me, from the listed options, it would have to be a zombie apocalypse. As long as they were like the zombies and people on the T.V. show.

 

As slow and brain-dead as they are (living and dead alike) the only way you could die, or even by discomforted is to be terminally stupid like deciding to take a nap in the same room with the dead or associate in any way with the living.

I've come to learn from watching zombie movies and TV shows that, the more people you have in your group, the more fucked you are. The more people you have, the more attention you're drawing to yourself, so the more is NOT the merrier. To quote Glenn from the second episode of The Walking Dead, "Until now, I've always come here by myself. In and out. Grab a few things no problem. The first time I bring a group, everything goes to hell." If I were to have a group, it would be 4 people, tops. It would be myself, my 2 girlfriends, and 1 other person. That's it.

Also, why the fuck would you want an RV in a zombie apocalypse? That's just asking for trouble. Along with Daryl's loud ass motorcycle. That thing could attract zombies within a 5 mile radius.

[Miauzi]

Vor 12 Minuten sagte Heroine HoneyCrotch:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well - something like brains has been on the human menu for centuries... preferably pork or beef.

(Who doesn't remember this scene from "Giants" (with James Dean) - where whole cattle brains are lying in huge feeding troughs ready for human consumption).

Well - if 99% of all humans are eaten by the zombie hordes ... what do they feed on then?

just ... not a very successful "disease" that effectively wipes itself out ... flunked the "evolution" test

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[Darkpig]

Hmmm... Which Post-Apocolypse would I want to live in? I would say the one I never tried. Second choice is llamas.

[KoolHndLuke]

You actually put some thought into this I see. 

 

Alien Invasion for me. Chance to learn kind of thing. Maybe some grand revelation in the process. Lot's of pew-pew combat with cool lighting effects. 

 

Edited July 2, 2023 by KoolHndLuke

[KoolHndLuke]

23 minutes ago, Doctor Cadaver said:

"Disease Outbreak", which is one of the most realistic possible scenarios.

Doc... really? Appropriate "duh" applied. 

[KoolHndLuke]

6 minutes ago, Doctor Cadaver said:

Yeah, yeah...

Gotcha.. 

Edited July 2, 2023 by KoolHndLuke

[FauxFurry]

On 6/20/2023 at 3:01 AM, Miauzi said:

Zombie?

Yes great "concept" - besides the natural decay that has to be stopped for such an undead ... how does its energy balance work?

I only say one word now -> metabolism

The original zombie concept was a person drugged into a mindless state or a recently dead body bought back by a bokor to be an undead servant to toil away until they rot away. Modern zombies might as well be vampires but created through Super Science or outright pseudo-science rather than dark magic.  

[FauxFurry]

On 6/26/2023 at 7:59 AM, Miauzi said:

 

Well - something like brains has been on the human menu for centuries... preferably pork or beef.

(Who doesn't remember this scene from "Giants" (with James Dean) - where whole cattle brains are lying in huge feeding troughs ready for human consumption).

Well - if 99% of all humans are eaten by the zombie hordes ... what do they feed on then?

just ... not a very successful "disease" that effectively wipes itself out ... flunked the "evolution" test

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At least with Resident Evil bio-weapon 'zombies', they are only meant to clear out the enemy in the region when the virus is deployed. Once the virus is no longer needed, another strain will be engineered to perform its function (including transformation into super humans, be it the Tyrants or what are essentially Agents from The Matrix for the Weskers.

[KoolHndLuke]

18 minutes ago, FauxFurry said:

Modern zombies might as well be vampires but created through Super Science or outright pseudo-science rather than dark magic.  

Think you're insinuating that there's little difference between the two. I disagree because Zombies are shuffling, slow, mindless husks created either through science gone awry or through dark magic with only their hunger or imposed will to drive them while Vampires are usually created from a higher will of a god and are independent, very intelligent, agile and powerful apex predators according to most lore.

 

Zombies- destroy them any way you damn well please if you've got the strength or ammo. But Vampires are something to be feared for good reason. You meet a single Vampire, you would be wise to be extremely cautious. You meet a Coven however, you run like you never thought you could- and it still won't save you.

 

Edited July 2, 2023 by KoolHndLuke

[FauxFurry]

3 minutes ago, KoolHndLuke said:

Think you're insinuating that there's little difference between the two. I disagree because Zombies are shuffling, slow, mindless husks with only their hunger to drive them while Vampires are usually highly intelligent, agile and powerful apex predators according to most lore.

The important bit is that they are 'undead' creatures now rather than the products of pharmaceuticals working their effects on bodies either living or recently dead. 

[KoolHndLuke]

17 minutes ago, FauxFurry said:

The important bit is that they are 'undead' creatures now rather than the products of pharmaceuticals working their effects on bodies either living or recently dead. 

With what distinction? Souls? If so, then that's always been in my variables.