I would like it if we, that is LL, could start seriously competing with Nexus

[katrina.balanchuk]

1 minute ago, Gukahn said:

 

Well the short Story is, once they announced their collections, they announced to take the right away for pulling mods from their servers. You can still hide them,but once they are in a Collection they are accessible if you want it or not. I can't say how far this goes since i stopped reading about it. It got discussed to death when it happened and many People deleted their Mods before the rule got implemented to protect their rights.

For me it's still the same as it was before, theft to benefit from other peoples works no matter what. I assume they wanted to make sure their new Idea (which was already done by the likes of Wabbajack and is basically the same. "Theft" in a way. Since the actual attention got taken away from the ones who do the hard work. Basically, they took an idea of someone else to take away the work of many other people to make a profit.

I don't say nexus is a bad or evil place, saying that would be silly and hyprocritical of me since I use it every day, but it's a move that hit the rights of individuals harder then just taking a Mod down that was, like already said, only there to start bullshit.

Before that, there actually was some kind of competition of 2 Authors, one making homosexuality more prominent and another doing the opposite by erasing the few homosexual hints from the game. Mods of both authors seem not to exist anymore (Or i just can't find them anymore. too tired to search more then two times.). Felt like two people just wanting to start some bullshit too.

I assume that's one of the Reasons your example hits a sensible spot right now.

 

That does sound like a problem for the content creators.

I am sure their rights will be respected more on LL.

Also it needs to be said I am constantly amazed and in awe on what they do (and for free!!!!)

[Mr. Otaku]

3 minutes ago, katrina.balanchuk said:

 

Anyone who doesn't jump on censorship bandwagon to you is a "bigot".

That is an example of bigotry.

 

Ahh you sweet little pie you changed the whole script, were you feeling flustered? XD

 

Nobody is censoring you, nobody here or on Nexus. You're only expected to not post or promote rightoid bullshit that provokes hate against marginalized groups, if you can't do that then you're a bigot and you will get booted, and then you'll cry that you're being oppressed cause you weren't allowed to be a bigot. Kick rocks lmao.

[Gukahn]

6 minutes ago, katrina.balanchuk said:

PS: Do the mod authors that get their work published on nexus have to sign an agreement to leave it exclusively on nexus?

Otherwise there may be some opportunities for LL to mirror host them

Edited 6 minutes ago by katrina.balanchuk

That is exactly one of the reasons why you won't get taken serious. Because its one of the biggest asshole moves you could make.

Why in hell would LL do that?  This is not Shaken, here Authors rights are respected, mods only posted on nexus because the Author only wants to host them there, are to stay there, vise versa, mods only here cause the Author only wants them here are to stay here. People who don't respect that are scum.

No matter my previous Post, what nexus did was announced. Everyone still hosting their mods only there should at least be respected enough to not do stuff like that.

[katrina.balanchuk]

3 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

That is exactly one of the reasons why you won't get taken serious. Because its one of the biggest asshole moves you could make.

Why in hell would LL do that?  This is not Shaken, here Authors rights are respected, mods only posted on nexus because the Author only wants to host them there, are to stay there, vise versa, mods only here cause the Author only wants them here are to stay here. People who don't respect that are scum.

No matter my previous Post, what nexus did was announced. Everyone still hosting their mods only there should at least be respected enough to not do stuff like that.

Sorry if I wasnt clear I did not intend to suggest in any way without the authors involvement.

Mirror them with the authors knowledge and cooperation of course.

I thought there might be an interest for some folks to have their content sored in two locations.

More exposure and also gives those folks who dont want to use nexus an opportunity to download elsewhere.

 

Edited November 29, 2022 by katrina.balanchuk

[katrina.balanchuk]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Otaku said:

 

Ahh you sweet little pie you changed the whole script, were you feeling flustered? XD

 

Nobody is censoring you, nobody here or on Nexus. You're only expected to not post or promote rightoid bullshit that provokes hate against marginalized groups, if you can't do that then you're a bigot and you will get booted, and then you'll cry that you're being oppressed cause you weren't allowed to be a bigot. Kick rocks lmao.

How many red herrings do you wish to employ?

yes no one is censoring me not here or on Nexus why do you state that implying I had stated this?

Are you trying to mislead an audience? 

 

And your other bizzare language in that post disqualifies itself that you cant see that and insist on hijacking this thread with more and most posts is amazing.

I will not respond to any more posts of yours, no matter how how absurd or over the top hateful.

Somebody has to be the adult around here.

Edited November 29, 2022 by katrina.balanchuk

[Mr. Otaku]

Just now, katrina.balanchuk said:

How many red herrings do you wish to employ?

Are you performing for an audience?

 

Seems to me you are guilty of thread hijacking.

 

Bro what the fuck are you even saying? You literally started the whole thing by mentioning the topic in your first post, you just don't like that you got called out. Tf are you doing?

[Tlam99]

12 hours ago, Thor2000 said:

 

 

Edited November 30, 2022 by Tlam99
Don't feed the troll

[Mr. Otaku]

5 minutes ago, katrina.balanchuk said:

I will not respond to any more posts of yours.

 

Bruh you might just be the whiniest libertarian i've seen lol. Fat L

[Alessia Wellington]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Otaku said:

Tf are you doing?

 

Smoking weed everyday?

[Mr. Otaku]

1 minute ago, Alessia Wellington said:

Smoking weed everyday?

 

Meth seems more likely cause this person is way too whiny and hyper to be a blazer.

[BananaSplitHmm]

42 minutes ago, katrina.balanchuk said:

Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities

?C'est dommage pour toi qu'il y ai un français dans ce post. Va lire Candide au lieu de balancer des citations hors contexte. Abrutie. 

[Gukahn]

10 minutes ago, katrina.balanchuk said:

I thought there might be an interest for some folks to have their content sored in two locations.

More exposure and also gives those folks who dont want to use nexus an opportunity to download elsewhere.

 

Everyone knows LL exists and a few other sites as well. Probably every Mod Author has even an account here or was looking around at some point. If they ain't here, they won't come here since LL is still and foremost focused on Adult content. And its nowhere near able to host a Fracion of Nexus content, like already said Nexus is a big Business. This site lives from the Money a small Number of People. Right now that Site is stable, when suddenly a big Number of People start to host their none adult mods here too... Not sure the Site can handle such amount of Traffic.

I can understand your Idea, it's just not easy. first you would need a good amount of starting capital and build big servers before anything can happen. Nobody got the money for that. Nexus does it for so many years now that it naturally developed from just a hosting Site to what it is now. Kinda like trying to compete with Twitter when all you have are 3 Co Workers and one Server. Can't even think the Idea is attractive.

 

So Since I think this thread will be locked by the Time I'm off Work tomorrow. Just leaving this thought here:

 

I don't think your bad people, I truly believe you wanted to start a discussion out of curiosity and good will, but next Time.. Don't pull an example like that, you see what happens when you do it. otaku isn't bad people either, actually a really good conversation partner, same goes for most people here I read in this thread. They don't react this way for nothing at all.

So next Time you want to fire something like this up and don't want this here to happen, think about what you use as an example or how to start it. (I don't want to sound like a Teacher here but bear with me for a second.)

Starting this with the simple "might LL ever be compete with nexus" Would've made this thread go a complete different way, more down to earth focused without any kind of political statements either against or for a specific side.

It would've been straight forward and most people here wouldn't have acted a little head up.

 

So. The pervy old man is going to sleep now.

 

[Alessia Wellington]

1 minute ago, Gukahn said:

So. The pervy old man is going to sleep now.

 

And dream of how Harley beats you up?

[Mr. Otaku]

4 minutes ago, Ceerylla said:

?C'est dommage pour toi qu'il y ai un français dans ce post. Va lire Candide au lieu de balancer des citations hors contexte. Abrutie. 

 

You know, i'm something of a baguette enjoyer myself.

 

 

Sorry, couldn't resist :3

[Gukahn]

2 minutes ago, Alessia Wellington said:

And dream of how Harley beats you up?

Every time with my pants down

[Alessia Wellington]

1 minute ago, Mr. Otaku said:

You know, i'm something of a baguette enjoyer myself.

 

I'm more into croissants. 

[Miauzi]

Vor 22 Minuten sagte Herr Otaku:

 

Ahh, du süßer kleiner Kuchen, du hast das ganze Drehbuch geändert, warst du nervös? XD

 

Niemand zensiert Sie, niemand hier oder auf Nexus. Von dir wird nur erwartet, dass du keinen rechten Bullshit postest oder promotest, der Hass gegen marginalisierte Gruppen provoziert, wenn du das nicht kannst, dann bist du ein Fanatiker und wirst gebootet, und dann wirst du weinen, dass du unterdrückt wirst weil du kein Fanatiker sein durftest. Kick rockt lmao.

as I wrote some time ago -> boring because it's always the same predictable and therefore absolutely boring script

and of course you are the poor poor victim of these evil evil "leftists" - of course you have to get rid of them to save the decent part of humanity.

and of course it makes a huge difference if you are naughty as "straight" on a porn site and not as "gay"
*yawn*

[katrina.balanchuk]

14 minutes ago, Gukahn said:

 

Everyone knows LL exists and a few other sites as well. Probably every Mod Author has even an account here or was looking around at some point. If they ain't here, they won't come here since LL is still and foremost focused on Adult content. And its nowhere near able to host a Fracion of Nexus content, like already said Nexus is a big Business. This site lives from the Money a small Number of People. Right now that Site is stable, when suddenly a big Number of People start to host their none adult mods here too... Not sure the Site can handle such amount of Traffic.

I can understand your Idea, it's just not easy. first you would need a good amount of starting capital and build big servers before anything can happen. Nobody got the money for that. Nexus does it for so many years now that it naturally developed from just a hosting Site to what it is now. Kinda like trying to compete with Twitter when all you have are 3 Co Workers and one Server. Can't even think the Idea is attractive.

 

So Since I think this thread will be locked by the Time I'm off Work tomorrow. Just leaving this thought here:

 

I don't think your bad people, I truly believe you wanted to start a discussion out of curiosity and good will, but next Time.. Don't pull an example like that, you see what happens when you do it. otaku isn't bad people either, actually a really good conversation partner, same goes for most people here I read in this thread. They don't react this way for nothing at all.

So next Time you want to fire something like this up and don't want this here to happen, think about what you use as an example or how to start it. (I don't want to sound like a Teacher here but bear with me for a second.)

Starting this with the simple "might LL ever be compete with nexus" Would've made this thread go a complete different way, more down to earth focused without any kind of political statements either against or for a specific side.

It would've been straight forward and most people here wouldn't have acted a little head up.

 

So. The pervy old man is going to sleep now.

 

 

Thank you for the reasoned response. 

 

I realize there would be practical difficulties and this site suffers a bit from bad press. (which is not a big deal IMHO)

I guess no amount of "normal" mod hosting could change that?

 

In any event I really like the site and I met some good folks on here and until today it was very nice place to socialize.

As I get better at this I hope to slowly change from the role of consumer of help, to provider of help when it comes to FO4 Mods.

 

Now I am going to go and play the game

 

Edited November 29, 2022 by katrina.balanchuk

[Mr. Otaku]

2 minutes ago, Alessia Wellington said:

I'm more into croissants.

 

Croissant sounds like such a french word but apparently it's from austria, very interesting.

 

2 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

as I wrote some time ago -> boring because it's always the same predictable and therefore absolutely boring script

and of course you are the poor poor victim of these evil evil "leftists" - of course you have to get rid of them to save the decent part of humanity.

and of course it makes a huge difference if you are naughty as "straight" on a porn site and not as "gay"
*yawn*

 

Oh yeah, they stick to the same script with differing variations. They're boring sure but i do enjoy ripping them to shreds when i'm in the mood lol.

 

This is the 8th point in Umberto Eco's list of 14 features of a fascist, the enemy is both strong and weak at the same time. So the "leftist extremists" are both "weak degenerates with no control or morals" and "strong militant organization that oppresses freedom with iron fist".

 

Too easy.

[Guest]

8 hours ago, Tlam99 said:

What are you doing.

Claiming an insult and in the next sentence you do a similar thing.

Take 2 upvotes as base to put all people into one pot.

People are different, here, nexus, overall in the world.

No I'm not. It's really just the same people. Different roles perhaps.

 

Edit: My main point is that people should read their posts before posting. If you downtalk people and calling them names, then perhaps you shluldn't write that post at all? God knows how many drafts I've deleted or changed just because I read them twice.

 

If that doesn't come out clear in my previous post, say so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 30, 2022 by Thor2000

[belegost]

[RohZima]

I think nexus were wrong for a number of reasons but the last thing I want is the multitude to come over here and degrade the site. Can you imagine posts in 'Technical Support' which have three pages of gibberish from people who think that a game engine is an organic being that responds with whims and emotions to various stimulus?

 

No, lets keep the IQ level above a certain threshold please.

[Psalam]

I try very hard not to lock Threads but this one is about to become an exception. Please return to the topic brought by the OP. Also, please keep all posts civil.

[Miauzi]

Am 29.11.2022 um 5:14 Uhr sagte katrina.balanchuk:

Und während ich, (und ich vermute fast alle) Mitglieder) hierher gekommen bin, um nach erotischen Mods zu suchen, habe ich das Gefühl, dass hier Raum ist, um in allgemeinen Spieldiskussionen und auch Mods für Nicht-Erwachsene zu wachsen.

 

Ich werde versuchen, meinen sehr kleinen und bescheidenen Teil zu leisten, indem ich allgemeine Diskussionen über mein bevorzugtes Spiel führe, und ich ermutige andere, dasselbe zu tun

 

Das alte Sprichwort der Foren sagt : „Posts erzeugen mehr Posts und mehr Posts verwandeln Lurker in Poster“

Vielleicht könnten wir eines Tages alle Mods nicht erotisch und nicht erotisch nach Spiel-Tabs und Mods-Tabs organisieren. So wie es Nexus tut. Dies wird das Auffinden von Dingen einfacher machen, als durch Forenseiten zu stöbern, und ein erster Schritt im Wettbewerb sein. Nur meine Gedanken.

 

 

Well - at the moment it boils down to the fact that the forum is literally flooded with threads and texts, some of which are very meaningless.

If you want to tell other users how to play a game...
..well there is actually the possibility to create a blog about it here and instead of always publishing new threads and wondering why nobody reacts - you can put your story like e.g. storming through NukaWolrd in a blog entry.

But whether it is really the intention of the thread creator to let others participate in his fallout excursions or rather to artificially build up "trafic"...
..everybody should decide that for themselves.

 

[t.ara]

LL also alows to add non sexual-sensitive stuff and if you have a technical problem, you have nice and game-depending sub-categories of different threads. LL and nexus both can become googled and both pages are reachable by adding a request on goooogle or on other search engines. Both pages are in a very cute way alowing to mod the wanted games and offer endless content.

A competition between LL and nexus is of course not a relevant aspect as LL is offering more freedom for posting lot of "very open minded" content. Anyway offers nexus also endless stuff, which is only available for grown ups, same way like LL does offer. The problem with nexus has been in the past that they created mod-packs or such like without the agreement of the authors as far I remember. This has been also disussed here on LL some time ago.

 

There´s nothing which let me get into a controverse between LL and NEXUS. You can try to create your mod-list for skyrim or other games without the use of nexus. You need to understand how much NEXUS has a collection of base and fundamental stuff for the games, and equipped with a very cute searching option. This is not only for base mods, this also comes to unfinished stuff of authors, which simply added endless new assets for the game as a "modder´s resource" and for easy use inside of new and own mod creations.

 

This thread should once more open some people´s eyes, how much they depend with their consuming of both sides which simply and mostly complement each other.