wollboi Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 @Jessica_Degurechaff No input to make other than to say I also really think we need a full NPC replacer. Like another 100% NPC one. Ugh. It's really offputting to have a beautiful world and fugly NPCs. @SnabelArne I second what @ZeusKingOfGods said. It's crashed for me a lot in BFB too. If you want to make sure, you can install Crash Logger at the bottom of the SKSE section. If it lists "Skyrim.esm" and "draugr_something" close together, that's what is doing it. @Chekist For Fort Dawnguard, make sure you have the patches for Palaces and Castles Enhanced list as instructed here under section "2" on the first stickied post. It did the same thing to me but that fixed it. @rb1981 I would avoid merging unless like Aylis said it's a patch and the mod author instructs that to be the way you install it. Merging should mess with your plugin load order though. Are you enabling each mod as you go along? Some mods depend on other mods being enabled during their FOMOD install and that could end up giving you some missing master plugins, but even that's a stretch. Can you list a few of the ones you're missing? Missing Masters means the expected plugin is completely missing, but Delinquent Masters means you just have two plugins out of order, so all you'll really need to do is make sure to swap them. Nemesis will crash because it's Nemesis and it loves to crash. It crashes for me about 30% of the time whenever I run it. But it will definitely crash if you're not checking the right boxes. Make sure to put a check in anything you're using. For the list, that would be Book of Shadows, Eating Animations, and Payload Interpreter (I may have missed one or two). @alaunus01 I tossed WACCF too. It kept giving me the shitty vanilla armor and Wrye wasn't catching it. There's an optional plugin that is supposed to help Wrye figure out which one to use, but it didn't make much of a difference to me. I don't really like it anyway. 4
misterpipes Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 3 hours ago, rb1981 said: ... I appreciate any help you can give. "Missing Masters" is you are missing something you should have installed. You'll need to figure out which mods you need to install/reinstall. Wrye Bash will give you the name of the missing esm/esp, as will MO2 (the red triangle top right with the yellow dot on it). "Delinquent Master" is just a load order issue. Wrye Bash tells you which esp/esm needs to be moved. Use MO2's plugin tab (right hand pane) to shuffle things around until it becomes happy. My approach to mods that prompt to merge or overwrite, is (unless Aylis says merge or overwrite) to cancel and install it as a new mod with a different name (which does result in a mod list that goes: Mod, Mod - USSEP patch, Mod - Texture Update, Mod - Othermod compat...). This allows uninstalling or changing the load order of the patches without reinstalling all the mod and patches. I reinterate what alaunus01 - install by category. Also use MO2s separators to keep things organised. FNIS instead of Nemesis. If you follow the guide, Nemesis should work (for values of work that includes exiting without error messages 4 times in a row and then just working on the 5th attempt, or screwing up its own temp files to the point it won't run at all). I personally run FNIS alongside Nemesis (I should probably write up the correct way to do that at some point), and afaict there is no reason you can't just replace Nemesis with FNIS, for most things, and it should work. If it doesn't, it's probably either Book of Shadows, Eating Animations and/or Payload Interpreter (theres probably a few more I've missed). But you really should try to get Nemesis to work. 1
wollboi Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 Also, anyone have an issue with the windmills not having ... the windmill parts? I thought that's what the DynDOLOD patch was for.
misterpipes Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 28 minutes ago, wollboi said: Also, anyone have an issue with the windmills not having ... the windmill parts? I thought that's what the DynDOLOD patch was for. Now that you mention it, yes, I'm seeing windmills that are missing the wind part of thier name
rb1981 Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 I didn´t think there would be so many replys. This community is great! I really appreciate the help and I´ll follow all the advices. My thanks @alaunus01 @Aylis @wollboi @misterpipes 1
Chekist Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, wollboi said: Also, anyone have an issue with the windmills not having ... the windmill parts? I thought that's what the DynDOLOD patch was for. yes, the windmills are missing their sails. I guess something overrides SMIM DynDOLOD Patch for the windmills.
alaunus01 Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Jessica_Degurechaff said: How do i use it in case theres no mugshots of the replacer that im using? It doesn't need the mugshots to 'work'. The mugshots are there for the indecisive lot. 1 hour ago, wollboi said: @Jessica_Degurechaff No input to make other than to say I also really think we need a full NPC replacer. Like another 100% NPC one. Ugh. It's really offputting to have a beautiful world and fugly NPCs. I took one of the full replacers the tool had mugshots for as a baseline. NVIVO modular sth sth. Not because they were pretty but because I was fairly certain it would recognize those as modified npcs and carry them into the merge. In time I expect most of them replaced by the NITHI remasters just needed something it would recognize as npc was changed until then. Just for the giggles I kept the two BB companions the NITHI remaster did not have a RBT patch for too. Super easy, barely an inconvenience. ?
Jessica_Degurechaff Posted January 27, 2023 Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, wollboi said: @Jessica_Degurechaff No input to make other than to say I also really think we need a full NPC replacer. Like another 100% NPC one. Ugh. It's really offputting to have a beautiful world and fugly NPCs. I actually found an obscure one that covers every single NPC ever. (besides AE content.. but they are basically stand alone so its kinda ok) https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64202 as i have yet to have a playable Mod list (still finishing the last details + waiting for Aylis to launch the last update from 4 hours ago) i havent truly tested in game how would they look, but so far the comparison in NIFS and EasyNPC shows me better results than pandorable and other "overly chiseled" npcs (i really dislike that 80s action movie chin they decide to put on most npcs, they are pretty, but i really dislike that chin) This one looks far "softer" still pretty, the only complain its that its a bit on the asianish (or anime-ish) side of things, but so far it works the best as it covers everything and im just putting things on top of it PD: To anyone who uses this mod or similar, does it works good? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/76916 im looking for a mod that adds npcs around, but i also dont want to patch 100 things to get it working Edited January 28, 2023 by Jessica_Degurechaff
Chekist Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Jessica_Degurechaff said: PD: To anyone who uses this mod or similar, does it works good? https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/76916 im looking for a mod that adds npcs around, but i also dont want to patch 100 things to get it working You will have to install a million patches to any additional mod that populates cities with npcs, as it will directly conflict with city/town overhauls in this list. And there is a fat chance that patch for something in this list simply do not exist.
Jessica_Degurechaff Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 54 minutes ago, Chekist said: You will have to install a million patches to any additional mod that populates cities with npcs, as it will directly conflict with city/town overhauls in this list. And there is a fat chance that patch for something in this list simply do not exist. Yeah, after digging into the files of the mod it self i realized that, its pretty much impossible to even patch it your self as it takes just a single mod that changes something mayor and now your patch does not work. Sadge Tho, at least the magic of Easy ESLfy stuff its saving my ass as i can add a ton of mods and just ESLfy their asses (if compatible)
Aylis Posted January 28, 2023 Author Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, wollboi said: I tossed WACCF too. It kept giving me the shitty vanilla armor and Wrye wasn't catching it. There's an optional plugin that is supposed to help Wrye figure out which one to use, but it didn't make much of a difference to me. I don't really like it anyway. Good to know! Then i have to see how i can remove it (i think one mod had it as a requirement ?). __________________________________________________ Expanded on a few descriptions. Added instructions how to create a texture patch for 'Female Draugr'. The two patches for the vampires will be moved from 'Patches' to 'NPC'. That should finally fix the black face bug for them. It's finally weekend and i could sleep in... But as usual i'm working on Skyrim. ? Edited January 28, 2023 by Aylis 1
FlaccidOrange Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 In the Patches Section when it says, " RERUN 'LUX' (Weather and Lighting) RERUN 'LUX Via' (Weather and Lighting) RERUN 'LUX Orbis' (Weather and Lighting) " Should I keep the mod folder in the weather and lighting section, and just move the plugin's esps down to patches? Or what? Bc I know we have some patches for these mods so I assume you don't wanna override them. Sorry if its a dumb question or badly worded.
Dressblood Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 36 minutes ago, FlaccidOrange said: In the Patches Section when it says, " RERUN 'LUX' (Weather and Lighting) RERUN 'LUX Via' (Weather and Lighting) RERUN 'LUX Orbis' (Weather and Lighting) " Should I keep the mod folder in the weather and lighting section, and just move the plugin's esps down to patches? Or what? Bc I know we have some patches for these mods so I assume you don't wanna override them. Sorry if its a dumb question or badly worded. Yeah, all the new plugins that you get when re-installing keep them in the patches section. If you leave them too high in the list they could be overwrited by other mods, though it should be fine as long as they are after all the mods they are patching. But is better to avoid conclicts. 1
alaunus01 Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Aylis said: Good to know! Then i have to see how i can remove it (i think one mod had it as a requirement ?). [...] I think it was the other bodyscale randomizer you tossed in favor of the obody solution a couple revisions ago.
Chekist Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 7 hours ago, alaunus01 said: I think it was the other bodyscale randomizer you tossed in favor of the obody solution a couple revisions ago. Autobody? Nope, it has the same requirements as OBody.
Aylis Posted January 28, 2023 Author Posted January 28, 2023 Jumping from one spot to the next... WACCF will be a thing of the past. Removing it seems to cause no issues. PCE will be removed as well. The changes to the palaces are great, but the changes to castles not so much. Add all the flickering lighting and i'm not happy with the mod! Sometimes it is better to stick with the proven mods (aka JK). My mistake was to really check the palaces and giving the castles only a cursory look without checking every room.
alaunus01 Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 1 hour ago, wollboi said: @alaunus01 No blackface bug thus far? I had a couple of them when I first half arsed the merge as I went along. Once I realised my impatience was to blame I took the hour?ish and made sure every NPC had the correct facegen assigned (not to mention the correct stats/perks those were really all over the place). Now that I have it set right even the NPCs it warns me about in the post built check are fine. Stendars Bacon however still is blackfacorama for me. EasyNPC leaves out stuff that it thinks is only touched by one esp, doesn't recognize the texture improvements (the reason I had to add 'some' full npc replacer to artificially create 'conflicts' and catch the 'vanilla' npcs). Outside of that edgecase I have not seen any blackface, even our beloved nord vampires behave. Once the guide is back at a level where most of the NPCs are Aylis approved beautified it gets even easier. After a build one could upload the logfile which anybody with the same replacers can use to replicate the settings with a dozen mouseclicks.
Chekist Posted January 28, 2023 Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, alaunus01 said: I had a couple of them when I first half arsed the merge as I went along. Once I realised my impatience was to blame I took the hour?ish and made sure every NPC had the correct facegen assigned (not to mention the correct stats/perks those were really all over the place). Now that I have it set right even the NPCs it warns me about in the post built check are fine. Stendars Bacon however still is blackfacorama for me. EasyNPC leaves out stuff that it thinks is only touched by one esp, doesn't recognize the texture improvements (the reason I had to add 'some' full npc replacer to artificially create 'conflicts' and catch the 'vanilla' npcs). Outside of that edgecase I have not seen any blackface, even our beloved nord vampires behave. Once the guide is back at a level where most of the NPCs are Aylis approved beautified it gets even easier. After a build one could upload the logfile which anybody with the same replacers can use to replicate the settings with a dozen mouseclicks. Or just use this: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/42441 P.S. In Winterhold College if you exit The Midden with a follower, they will fall through the world. First happened to Vayne, now to Serana. Never bothered to learn/enable their teleports. Oh well, it was nice knowing them... Edited January 28, 2023 by Chekist
wollboi Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Aylis said: Jumping from one spot to the next... WACCF will be a thing of the past. Removing it seems to cause no issues. PCE will be removed as well. The changes to the palaces are great, but the changes to castles not so much. Add all the flickering lighting and i'm not happy with the mod! Sometimes it is better to stick with the proven mods (aka JK). My mistake was to really check the palaces and giving the castles only a cursory look without checking every room. Did you check the plugin order for the patches? Should be PCE.esp -> USSEP patch -> other patches. Seems to work fine for me now. (Edit: Nope, you're right. No wall mismashes, but still flickering lights.) Also, avebrave has been killing it with jewelry replacers. Bunch dropped today. bling bling Edited January 29, 2023 by wollboi
alaunus01 Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 And here I thought the flickering was a special feature of my Intel Arc A750.
Aylis Posted January 29, 2023 Author Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) Update 0.9.10 Finetuning and fixing problems Mods to REMOVE Spoiler Foundation Better Dyndolod Red Mountain Plume World Expansion Immersive Fort Dawnguard Fixing all the issues is simply too hard. Armor and Weapons Circlet Replacer Reyda's Jewelry Box - Earring SMP Now included in the main mod Creatures Honored Dead - A draugr and skeleton model replacer (ESP) Removing 'cause some people insist on using the ESL (causes CTD) instead of the ESP (no CTD) Honored Dead - Cannibal Draugr Patch Honored Dead - Sons of Skyrim Patch World Palaces and Castles Enhanced Palaces are top - castles not so much. Plus flickering lights even with the patch. Palaces and Castles Enhanced - Compatibility Patches Palaces and Castles Enhanced - Bears of The North Less Vanilla Trees Covered by 'Happy Little Trees' Mods to ADD Spoiler Foundation Sword Ferns Happy Little Shrubs Happy Little Trees Bark Forgotten Herbs Hanging Dead Chickens Red Mountain Plume Saw dust Tanning Rack Replacer Better Chests Moved within the group Display Cases Market Stalls Vvardenfell Plume for ENB World Expansion Blue Palace Castle Dour Palace of the Kings Understone Keep Physics and Animation Maximum Skeletons Only needed for 'Maximum Carnage' Armor and Weapons Better fur - Fine clothes Vanilla SMP Clothing Better fur - Fine Clothes Patch Circlets Redone Confessor Outfit (3BA) Guard Shields Guard Shields Reborn Guards Armor Replacer - Guard Shields Reborn Patch Gameplay Maximum Carnage Maximum Carnage with disabled bears Maximum Carnage - 3BA Patch Maximum Carnage - HIMBO Patch Ordinator - Metric Units NPC Detailed NPCs - KD Circlets Redone for NPCs Cosmetic Vampire Overhaul HD SE Moved within the group RERUN 'High Poly Head' (PC) Moved from 'Patches' Companions Pantheon - Daegon High Elf Follower - Replacer (3BA) Creatures Ants Ravens Weather and Lighting ENB Particle Lights - Light Orbs - Motes ENB Particle Lights - Wisps - Witchlight Wonders of Weather Wonders Of Weather - ENB Patch Wonders of Weather - Settings Loader Patches CCC - Arcane Accessories [Bodyslide] CCC - Fishing Outfit HIMBO and CBBE 3BA CCC - Spell Knight Armor Patch Final Combined CBBE+UUNP+TBD sliders Only needed for 'Confessor Outfit' Uploaded files Spoiler Zeroed Confessor Outfit Zeroed Fishing Gear Edited January 30, 2023 by Aylis
alaunus01 Posted January 29, 2023 Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) Looks like Maximum Skeletons and thus corollary Maxmimum Carnage does not play nice with Creature Framework. Just a note for the fellow degenerates. @Aylis Both Vanilla SMP Clothing - Fixes and Better Fur - Fine Clothes Patch link to Better Fur - Fine Clothes. I assume the correct Better Fur - Fine Clothes Patch is the one on Vanilla SMP Clothing? No clue what the Fixes link should be though. Weather and Lighting: ENB Particle Lights - Winterhold Statue is not mentioned in the changelog (or I missed it the last updates ?) Sound: Shut Up Whiterun is not present in the mainlist on page 1 Final: CBBE 3BA - V's Cut & Improved Calves and Feet not mentioned in changelog Edited January 29, 2023 by alaunus01 stuff 1
Aylis Posted January 29, 2023 Author Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) @alaunus01 Didn't see the updates. Fixed That one has been in there for a few updates now (i'm using it for roughly three weeks). P.S. Whats the issue with CF? Maybe i can make a patch. Edited January 29, 2023 by Aylis
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