Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[Trykz]

1 hour ago, willsigs123 said:

Does anyone know if the latest version 1.9.0.2 work with the current version of the SE patch 1.9.0.1? Has anyone tested this? Thanks! 

 

Yes.

 

Been using them together for a couple of days now.

[grayskin]

Not sure what was causing it, but I know that Bimbos of Skyrim was causing me to CTD anytime I tried to enter Whiterun. Didn't run into problems in any of the other cities, just Whiterun, so for now I guess I'm removing it and doing some figuring out. Can post the Crash Log if that'd help anybody else figure it out, otherwise just posting to let folks know about a potential issue.

[Wolfen09]

6 hours ago, AphroditesEye said:

I'm pretty well acquainted with Elder Scrolls lore. The Dragon War was Pre-First Era, it was Merethic Era. That's irrelevant information as to what was going on with them at the time. The Dwemer's history in the first era is important to Skyrim's story, but when Korvanjund was cut out of the main quest to be placed in the Civil War questline exclusively this information was largely lost on the broader playerbase. Their presence in Morrowind during the first era is why Skyrim lost Morrowind during the War of Succession, which led to Jurgen Windcaller founding the Greybeards - not the Battle at Red Mountain everyone typically thinks of. This was the result of a 50-year long Civil War that broke out after King Borgas banned the old Nordic pantheon in favor of an Alessian one, leading to the cultural origins of the old holds, the alliance between Dumac and Nerevar, and eventually Olaf One-Eye becoming the first High King of Skyrim who wasn't part of Ysgramor's dynasty. Wulfharth would go on to violently revert the change to the old Nordic pantheon later.

Thats what the Dwemer did in the first era. Elder Scrolls lore is pretty deep and intricate, I don't even consider ESO canonical or at least its psuedo-canon to me, and even without that context its extremely long and historied. The idea the Dwemer weren't really around in Skyrim is directly contradicted by what we're shown in the game. Their ruins are all over the landscape, they have the Dragon Scroll, they enslaved the Falmer to experiment with Tonal Magic - which Shouts are, they even have a captive Dragon in Blackreach. It is unfortunately mostly poor writing on Bethesda's part as to why we don't know what they were doing - either because they didn't tell us, or they did but it was so subtle it isn't easily picked up on. This is the same game that converted The Snow Prince into Vyrthur and left a bunch of massing hanging plotthreads open about the Falmer from the base game unfinished as a result.

 

 

my apologies, was not intending to offend

[Selloh]

3 hours ago, angrykiwi said:

Does anyone here uses BoS together with SexLab P+ and Hentairim. Was thinking of starting a new game but i've read that SLP+ has many incompatibilities with the old mods due to depreciated features from the original.

I do! BoS works just fine with SLP+ on my modlist, and I'm very happy with it. I don't think I could go back to using normal SL at this point, P+ is just so much faster.

As for Hentairim, I don't use it, but a quick search revealed that the author released Hentairim P+ just today!

[angrykiwi]

4 minutes ago, Selloh said:

I do! BoS works just fine with SLP+ on my modlist, and I'm very happy with it. I don't think I could go back to using normal SL at this point, P+ is just so much faster.

As for Hentairim, I don't use it, but a quick search revealed that the author released Hentairim P+ just today!

 Hm, sounds promising, wanted to trim my mod list from some script heavy mods that i did not like and to try something new on a new save, thanks!

[BobaBibba]

5 hours ago, angrykiwi said:

Does anyone here uses BoS together with SexLab P+ and Hentairim. Was thinking of starting a new game but i've read that SLP+ has many incompatibilities with the old mods due to depreciated features from the original.

Sexlab P+ took years off my life. Had to update my Skyrim version just for it which meant I had to update everything else too lol. I think they've fixed a lot of the problems with the incompatibilities. I just don't like the method of picking which animation is playing. its one of those real time menus that you cant use your mouse for. Other than that it seems to work really fast, too fast some times lol. I don't use hentairim tho so I can't tell you if that works with it. I know P+ has problems with DDNG or just regular DD. I think it doesn't sort the animations properly or something, so they recommend turning off the DD animation sorting, although this could be old news and maybe it does work fine now Idk for sure.

[AphroditesEye]

10 hours ago, Wut1969 said:

@AphroditesEye and @Wolfen09;

 

Please don't start a 'my lore is better than your lore' discussion here. It's just a game and Bethesda will happily break their own stories.

 

I wasn't starting a lore debate. I don't care if you like ESO or not. If you do, that's fine. I'm not gonna judge. It's just not for me. And I've actually played Arena quite a bit, it's a good dungeon crawler. Shoutout to Ogmha Infinium grinding, bring back the Dino Men. Me min-maxxing my stats as a Breton Knight with the Ebony Blade just to still get shitwalked by Ice Wolves in Labyrinthian in my first playthrough, 10/10 experience. I only brought it up to make a point that despite how ESO now comprises over half the lore of the franchise, even if you don't take it into account whatsoever like I do, Elder Scrolls STILL has extremely complex, vast and historied lore, and thus it's easy to get confused on what happens where. 

[AphroditesEye]

4 hours ago, Wolfen09 said:

 

 

my apologies, was not intending to offend

Nah dude you didn't offend me at all, dw. I just really like talking about TES lore and the opportunity arose so I took it. You got nothing to apologize for.

[Wolfen09]

41 minutes ago, AphroditesEye said:

Nah dude you didn't offend me at all, dw. I just really like talking about TES lore and the opportunity arose so I took it. You got nothing to apologize for.

 

im the same way, i saw an opportunity to throw out some knowledge and was like yes this is it the moment i didnt know i was waiting for

[AphroditesEye]

49 minutes ago, Wolfen09 said:

 

im the same way, i saw an opportunity to throw out some knowledge and was like yes this is it the moment i didnt know i was waiting for

Hyperfixation is a hell of a drug haha, I stayed up until 5am last night digging through Skyrim's files trying to figure out just how much was cut from the main quests of the games factions and dlc. Don't lose that spark!

[Moma743]

Doesn't seem to work. FNIS says the animations aren't compaitble with SE. I have the SE patch installed and it is below the original mod.

Edited August 16, 2025 by Moma743

[Wut1969]

1 hour ago, AphroditesEye said:

I wasn't starting a lore debate. I don't care if you like ESO or not. If you do, that's fine. I'm not gonna judge. It's just not for me. And I've actually played Arena quite a bit, it's a good dungeon crawler. Shoutout to Ogmha Infinium grinding, bring back the Dino Men. Me min-maxxing my stats as a Breton Knight with the Ebony Blade just to still get shitwalked by Ice Wolves in Labyrinthian in my first playthrough, 10/10 experience. I only brought it up to make a point that despite how ESO now comprises over half the lore of the franchise, even if you don't take it into account whatsoever like I do, Elder Scrolls STILL has extremely complex, vast and historied lore, and thus it's easy to get confused on what happens where. 

I haven't played ESO.

 

My point was that canon is just such a silly word to me. Every Bethesda game rewrites some of its history. Are there mages and fighters guilds in every city? Can mages fly? Where are the talking mudcrabs? 

 

In some future game only one of the outcomes of the Civil War quests can become canon. 

 

I came across a discussion on the interwebz where someone claimed that the Ewoks hadn't crushed the large metal chicken because those first 3 movies weren't canon, just like you decided that ESO isn't.

What if the next game relies heavily on whatever happened in ESO? Will that ruin ES6 for you? I really hope not. 

[willsigs123]

8 hours ago, Trykz said:

 

Yes.

 

Been using them together for a couple of days now.

Excellent, thanks for the input! Follow up question: 

Is it safe to update to 1.9.0.2 in the middle of a play through or should I start a new game? 

[BobaBibba]

TLDR of The Elder Scrolls lore:

 

Big baddies are always up to big baddie things but unfortunately for them some maniac just broke out of prison to stop their shenanigans before they can even get to the good part all because he/she, cat, lizard person? has nothing better to do after jail. Also when the god complex virgin elves are off-screen, they somehow manage to piss off the real gods and end up getting their virgin race cursed to look ugly or just taken out existence. Meanwhile the absolute Chad human races hand said elves the biggest ass whooping every single time they're able to. The Chad among Brads, Tiber Chad Septim, used the very machine (that helped cause the deletion of the virgin dwemer (which they themselves built (what idiots))) to hand the biggest ass kicking in the history of ass kickings to the virgin high elves. It was such an ass kicking that it caused generational trauma and some of the virgin elves who witnessed such ass kicking are still probably alive today (thanks to their power of long life from being virgins). Tiber Septim was such a Chad in fact that He formed an Empire that is still around to this day and the gods thought he was so cool that they made him a god just to probably piss of the heathen virgin elves who are probably bouta do more heathen shit and probably get another ass whooping from the humans.

 

Also ESO shouldn't be canon because it's an mmo and mmo's are absolute snooze fests.

[AphroditesEye]

2 hours ago, Wut1969 said:

I haven't played ESO.

 

My point was that canon is just such a silly word to me. Every Bethesda game rewrites some of its history. Are there mages and fighters guilds in every city? Can mages fly? Where are the talking mudcrabs? 

 

In some future game only one of the outcomes of the Civil War quests can become canon. 

 

I came across a discussion on the interwebz where someone claimed that the Ewoks hadn't crushed the large metal chicken because those first 3 movies weren't canon, just like you decided that ESO isn't.

What if the next game relies heavily on whatever happened in ESO? Will that ruin ES6 for you? I really hope not. 

I'm not interested in TES6 at all. Yes, ESO is partially why, but not the entire reason. And this isn't really the place to get into why I hold issue with ESO, or why I'm not interested or excited for TES6.

It's also not relevant to the conversation I was having, nor why I brought it up. I used ESO as an example as to how vast the lore is even if you cut out half of what is currently there. I didn't bring it up a single other time in the conversation, I didn't even demean it in said conversation. It was a single mention in two paragraphs to make a point about how complex TES lore is, and nothing more. You chose to take away nothing from the conversation except that I don't consider ESO canonical to previous titles. I'm not interested in discussing the canonicity of ESO. When I'm discussing the lore of Skyrim, as far as I am concerned, encompasses itself, and all contemporary materials that existed at the time of it's release, and up until its DLC finished. I don't even consider Legends canonical to Skyrim for that reason despite it being far less controversial. In the same manner I wouldn't consider Fallout 4 lore in a discussion about Fallout 3's lore, because Fallout 4 didn't exist yet. That's not a statement of my opinion on Fallout 4 - I actually like it more than Fallout 3 by a long shot, it's just that my philosophy towards these games is that their writing is meant to be taken within the context of what exists at the time, and can be extended to the direct release of content revolving around their official developmental period. If I was discussing ESO lore, Skyrim would be relevant to bring up, because Skyrim existed prior and contextualizes ESO on those grounds. The same does not work for me in reverse. You're free to disagree, but again, that's not the point I was trying to make to begin with - and need I remind you, you requested I don't turn it into a canonicity debate. Even though I never did that, and I clarified that the first time I responded to you. I'm only explaining my perspective on canon to you further, right now, so you understand why I discuss TES lore the way I do, and how I write it in the context of when I do dialogue for mods. You're free to disagree, and that's fine. But I don't care what your opinion of canonicity is. I just wanted to correct a misunderstanding of where in the timeline the Dragon War took place - Merethic, not First Era, and ramble a bit about First Era lore that was relevant, not often discussed, and that I do enjoy.

If you want to have a conversation like this, there's plenty of forums for it. I'm not interested in that. I'm interested, on this thread at least, in "Bimbos of Skyrim", a mod I enjoy and have contributed towards in the writing department. That's it. I hope that answer is satisfactory for you.

Edited August 16, 2025 by AphroditesEye

[AphroditesEye]

10 hours ago, willsigs123 said:

Does anyone know if the latest version 1.9.0.2 work with the current version of the SE patch 1.9.0.1? Has anyone tested this? Thanks! 

I'm running it currently and haven't encountered any issues so far, though I know a few users have had issues with weight-based corruption sliders not working.

[tester86]

5 hours ago, AphroditesEye said:

I'm running it currently and haven't encountered any issues so far, though I know a few users have had issues with weight-based corruption sliders not working.

 I have to disagree. Without a SE patch and 1.9.0.2 all the characters T-pose even after running FNIS. With 1.9.0.2 FNIS gives a warning stating \character\behavior\FNIS_BibosOfSkyrim_Behavior.hlx not Skyrim Se compatible. 

Usually there is an SE patch and without it T-pose. There is no SE patch listed on the download page for 1.9.0.2 and so it does not work. At least for me. Not sure how it is working for others. 

Removed 1.9.0.2 and reran FNIS fixed the T-Pose. It does not work. 

[ebbluminous]

1 minute ago, tester86 said:

 I have to disagree. Without a SE patch and 1.9.0.2 all the characters T-pose even after running FNIS. With 1.9.0.2 FNIS gives a warning stating \character\behavior\FNIS_BibosOfSkyrim_Behavior.hlx not Skyrim Se compatible. 

Usually there is an SE patch and without it T-pose. There is no SE patch listed on the download page for 1.9.0.2 and so it does not work. At least for me. Not sure how it is working for others. 

Removed 1.9.0.2 and reran FNIS fixed the T-Pose. It does not work. 

I disagree with your disagreement. I have 1.9.0.2 and 1.9.0.1 SE patch. Works totally fine for me...

[LetsTestThis]

On 8/13/2025 at 6:59 AM, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Ah, interesting! Good old Skyrim. I'll merge your fixes in.

 

Something new I found when fiddling with AphroditesEye's work was the .esp text search feature in CK, which makes handling this sort of thing so so much easier. Just noting it in case anyone else had missed it- since I did for so long!

 

Well I hate to bring this up again but apparently I was wrong and setting the minimum distance did not totally resolve it. The comments mentioning Lyvvie still trigger in the college courtyard which curiously is exactly where I gave her the cure. Do you by chance know whether you simply disable and not move her Actor to a different cell? Because if so I suspect that might be the reason -  i.e. the Actor still existing (albeit in a disabled state) and being within the relevant distance. I am however unsure how to test this.

 

On 8/13/2025 at 10:04 AM, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Ugh- sometimes, when you fill a property in an already running quest, it doesn't update correctly. Looks like that's happening here- I filled the property and loaded a testing save, and yep nothing. Then started a new save and it works just fine.

You might have some luck with stopping and restarting CC_morellafollowerquest?

Stopping and starting causes the dialogue options to stay missing, I'll fiddle with the quest stages to see if that fixes it but for now I modified the script to log what the changes should be an apply them manually afterwards.

[AphroditesEye]

4 hours ago, tester86 said:

 I have to disagree. Without a SE patch and 1.9.0.2 all the characters T-pose even after running FNIS. With 1.9.0.2 FNIS gives a warning stating \character\behavior\FNIS_BibosOfSkyrim_Behavior.hlx not Skyrim Se compatible. 

Usually there is an SE patch and without it T-pose. There is no SE patch listed on the download page for 1.9.0.2 and so it does not work. At least for me. Not sure how it is working for others. 

Removed 1.9.0.2 and reran FNIS fixed the T-Pose. It does not work. 

Haven't had this issue myself. Could be because I run Pandora.

 

 

2 hours ago, LetsTestThis said:

Well I hate to bring this up again but apparently I was wrong and setting the minimum distance did not totally resolve it. The comments mentioning Lyvvie still trigger in the college courtyard which curiously is exactly where I gave her the cure. Do you by chance know whether you simply disable and not move her Actor to a different cell? Because if so I suspect that might be the reason -  i.e. the Actor still existing (albeit in a disabled state) and being within the relevant distance. I am however unsure how to test this.

 

Stopping and starting causes the dialogue options to stay missing, I'll fiddle with the quest stages to see if that fixes it but for now I modified the script to log what the changes should be an apply them manually afterwards.

Damn, that's too bad - I know when I was looking at the two ways an NPC can detect line of sight with another NPC, they can be... Problematic. Either by not working correctly or causing performance issues. I'd like to figure this out so I can avoid it in the future without having to cut off an entire type of dialogue. Lyvvie is actually accomplished by using 4 different NPCs, not manually transforming one - all that happens when the quest ends is said NPCs are disabled at different stages. I have honest to god no idea why that's even happening.

I noticed during some testing she's also giving her line about joining the Companions, even though I haven't done that yet. Skyrim's conditional dialogues are a headache, they either work perfectly or not at all for unknowable reasons.

[ebbluminous]

4 minutes ago, AphroditesEye said:

Haven't had this issue myself. Could be because I run Pandora.

 

I don't use Pandora (due to laziness, I'll get there sometime). Not had a problem, so not a Pandora thing to make it work

[Wolfen09]

13 hours ago, AphroditesEye said:

Hyperfixation is a hell of a drug haha, I stayed up until 5am last night digging through Skyrim's files trying to figure out just how much was cut from the main quests of the games factions and dlc. Don't lose that spark!

 

adhd is a bitch, i also stayed up the other night doing bug testing for the new update to buxom wench yuriana.  koz dropped it at 1am and i think i went to bed at like 630am.  hooray for brain chemicals

[BobaBibba]

10 hours ago, AphroditesEye said:

 When I'm discussing the lore of Skyrim, as far as I am concerned, encompasses itself, and all contemporary materials that existed at the time of it's release, and up until its DLC finished. I don't even consider Legends canonical to Skyrim for that reason despite it being far less controversial. In the same manner I wouldn't consider Fallout 4 lore in a discussion about Fallout 3's lore, because Fallout 4 didn't exist yet. That's not a statement of my opinion on Fallout 4 - I actually like it more than Fallout 3 by a long shot, it's just that my philosophy towards these games is that their writing is meant to be taken within the context of what exists at the time, and can be extended to the direct release of content revolving around their official developmental period.

 

This is a good way to look at the lore of these games, most other games and most of all fiction in general. The former entry will always be retconned by the ladder. Whether It's by poor writing or better writing. I'm sure ES6 will retcon a lot of things considering the last main line canonical entry this game and it was released back in 2011. That means that the majority of the new players to ES6 probably haven't even played oblivion let alone Morrowind, heck I haven't even played it. I was like 2 when it came out and there are plenty of reasons (gameplay wise) to not play it. I imagine less than 5% of the people who have played Skyrim have ever touched Arena or Daggerfall, which would be easy retcons if they didn't canonically happen only like 50 years before the events of Oblivion. I've always viewed the lore that happened pre 3rd era should be taken that nothing is set in stone since nobody other than a few elves and the gods are still around to recall any of those events. Which makes sense since the 3rd era is where 4 of the 5 mainline games take place. And even the books/eye witnesses of pre 3rd era history could be just historical bias of the real events. The problem is if a retcon takes characters or events that are recorded from multiple sources and just removes it. GRRM, writer of A Song of Ice and Fire has and entire book from the point of view of historical bias (Fire and Blood) and it works great. HBO basically did what I mentioned above and just removed important figures when making House of the Dragon so he's kind of mad about that, but that's off topic.

 

But yeah. Like you said above in your main point. Elder Scrolls lore is complex. I also don't really care for ESO (cause Imo mmo's are just boring) and I don't really think it should have any real impacting lore to the elder scrolls franchise since it is a spin off game that's not even made by Bethesda but by their parent company Zenimax. Also ain't nobody bringing up Elder Scrolls Redguard when talking about lore. And if you are, what's wrong with you? Nobody remembers that shit. But any ways that's just my opinion.

4 hours ago, ebbluminous said:

I disagree with your disagreement. I have 1.9.0.2 and 1.9.0.1 SE patch. Works totally fine for me...

 

Yeah? Well I disagree with your disagreement of his disagreement just because I feel like disagreeing. Have that.

[kamina666001]

using pandora 3.20 from nexus mods AND vortex does NOT recognize BoS, t-posing problem widespread... any help please?

 

[Moma743]

17 hours ago, Moma743 said:

Doesn't seem to work. FNIS says the animations aren't compaitble with SE. I have the SE patch installed and it is below the original mod.

Any help?