Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[audhol]

5 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

@audhol- any idea what could be wrong with this .osp file?

I checked the updated .osp that you posted and it seemed to be building correctly to all shapes in OS. I havent had chance to try it in game yet. Lemme have a look and see if I can see an issue.

[Selloh]

On 11/12/2024 at 6:16 PM, H Bof said:

Hmm, maybe check your bodyslide export location then? The invisible body usually means that there isn't a bodyslide export to read in the first place as far as I know but I could be wrong. Maybe your exports got sent to some random location on accident?

 

H Bof was right and I managed to fix it @jib_buttkiss, @audhol! The file path is going into Meshes/Bimbos of Skyrim/Body/BOS Princess Dress instead of the Body folder which is causing the invisible body.

 

I also was able to fix the file not detecting any bodyslide presets by adding the body to the CBBE group using Group Manager.

 

(I would upload the file, but I don't know how to change the output location in bodyslide.)

 

All that said, there seems to be another issue with the outfit not scaling properly with the bimbo body morph. For example, when bimbofied and wearing the dress, my body looks like it went back to it's original size before the bimbofication.

[AphroditesEye]

Suggestion - have the Corruption Purge mechanic also (optionally) reduce Sexlab's "Perversion" stat. Otherwise you just stay a nympho mass-accumulating corruption. I don't think people really even know how it works to be fair, I had to dig up an old ass chatlog to figure out what causes it to go up, and the way it's coded means even a character who never encounters aggressive sex is still very likely to eventually reach the Nympho level unless they literally have missionary sex and that's it lmao. Any sex with multiple actors and/or tagged as aggressive, creature, dirty, ect will raise your Perversion stat. You could become a Nympho by actually partaking in stuff that inflicts corruption or you could do it by not seeing threesomes as perverted lmfao

[audhol]

5 hours ago, Selloh said:

The file path is going into Meshes/Bimbos of Skyrim/Body/BOS Princess Dress instead of the Body folder which is causing the invisible body.

Hmmmm I thought we had fixed that issue previously. Guess the files got mixed up in the excitment.

 

Thanks for the detective work I'll upload a fix as soon as I redo my skyrim build which I cocked up by deleting the whole staging folder (blame the red wine)

 

 

[H Bof]

5 hours ago, Selloh said:

All that said, there seems to be another issue with the outfit not scaling properly with the bimbo body morph. For example, when bimbofied and wearing the dress, my body looks like it went back to it's original size before the bimbofication.

 

Glad you got it sorted! Did you check the build morphs box on the bottom left of Bodyslide before you exported it? That'd be my best guess.

[AphroditesEye]

Three things - one, I forgot to say prior; Lyli's breast expansion sequence has been... I don't know, broken? Laggy??? On SE since this last version. The sequence isn't broken so much as it takes like a whole minute or two per expansion sequence. Not sure why. It's still functional, just time-wasting.

Second - just out curiosity; is 1.9 currently in progress, or is that a ways off? I was surprised to see a new version of 1.8 come out and not just be labeled 1.9. 

Third; and this is more of a personal request, could we possibly get a little more post-quest dialogue for Lyvelia? I like her containment runes comment afterwards, but any sort of small conversations about follow-up experiments she's run, contact with Dareel since, making offers to the player to help her with more experiments either getting test subjects or as one (they dont actually have to lead anywhere), and especially any dialogue either about a post-quest slutmarked bimbo player or a bimbo player who's cured themselves would be nice to have; if nothing else than for characterization. If you actually DO want to give her cured self post quest content since her pre-quest self at least has the note quest and sex, maybe she just gives the player another reckless quest that adds corruption or cures it, or maybe if a player pushes back on her continuing experiments or tries to get her to hand over the canister after the quest she does something to add corruption. An optional way to get the Slutmarked version of Bimbofication after through this could be possible, commit to the pink hair and stuff, let the player go through the motions but this time there's no one who can actually cure them; just have the player go through it quickly this time like it happens in an in-game week. Not actually expecting that last idea that's just a suggestion if you want to go into it at all, I'd just personally like the extra dialogue. Always really liked this quest.

On the Slutmind stuff, good lord I get why you're struggling with this. I've thought on and off about it since the quest was added. Difficult thing to put in.

Edited November 16, 2024 by AphroditesEye

[Selloh]

1 hour ago, H Bof said:

Glad you got it sorted! Did you check the build morphs box on the bottom left of Bodyslide before you exported it? That'd be my best guess.

 

Thanks for the help! I do have the build morphs box checked, so unfortunately that's not the issue.

[forgetme21]

im having a bit of a problem here, whenever i walk close to any of the mod npcs, the game just crashes, i cant interact with lilli battleborn nor any of the other quest npcs, any fixes for this?

Edited November 16, 2024 by forgetme21

[randotemp]

1 hour ago, forgetme21 said:

im having a bit of a problem here, whenever i walk close to any of the mod npcs, the game just crashes, i cant interact with lilli battleborn nor any of the other quest npcs, any fixes for this?

First question for diagnosing:

SE/AE or LE (or "oldrim")

 

Second question:

Are you sure everything was installed correctly?

Are all the dependencies in order?

i.e. did you install the botox patch despite not having the botox mod installed?

[forgetme21]

7 minutes ago, randotemp said:

First question for diagnosing:

SE/AE or LE (or "oldrim")

 

Second question:

Are you sure everything was installed correctly?

Are all the dependencies in order?

i.e. did you install the botox patch despite not having the botox mod installed?

first, se/ae

second
everything is installed properly, ive checked multiple times
dependencies are all in order
i did not install the botox patch

Edited November 16, 2024 by forgetme21

[randotemp]

1 hour ago, forgetme21 said:

first, se/ae

second
everything is installed properly, ive checked multiple times
dependencies are all in order
i did not install the botox patch

I only ask because that seems like the first step, and you never know the level of experience you're dealing with.

Do you have a crashlogger installed?  Personally I use Trainwreck ( https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/106440 ), it might give you a better idea.  Sometimes it's not the mod you think it is causing the crash.

[audhol]

 

 

 

 

Bimbos Of Skyrim 3BA Princess Patch.7z

[jib_buttkiss]

On 11/16/2024 at 1:38 AM, Balgin said:

Perhaps at some point in the very distant future the Makeover power could do something very different with YPS integration (with or without the associated costs being added to the Dibella fund).

 

I could reuse the name for something else, but with it's functionality moved to the MCM it won't exist in it's current state at all (well, it probably will, I won't bother ripping it out of the mod I just won't actually give it to the player).

 

20 hours ago, AphroditesEye said:

Suggestion - have the Corruption Purge mechanic also (optionally) reduce Sexlab's "Perversion" stat. Otherwise you just stay a nympho mass-accumulating corruption. I don't think people really even know how it works to be fair, I had to dig up an old ass chatlog to figure out what causes it to go up, and the way it's coded means even a character who never encounters aggressive sex is still very likely to eventually reach the Nympho level unless they literally have missionary sex and that's it lmao. Any sex with multiple actors and/or tagged as aggressive, creature, dirty, ect will raise your Perversion stat. You could become a Nympho by actually partaking in stuff that inflicts corruption or you could do it by not seeing threesomes as perverted lmfao

 

Oh yeah, good call. Will do.

 

16 hours ago, AphroditesEye said:

Three things - one, I forgot to say prior; Lyli's breast expansion sequence has been... I don't know, broken? Laggy??? On SE since this last version. The sequence isn't broken so much as it takes like a whole minute or two per expansion sequence. Not sure why. It's still functional, just time-wasting.

Second - just out curiosity; is 1.9 currently in progress, or is that a ways off? I was surprised to see a new version of 1.8 come out and not just be labeled 1.9. 

Third; and this is more of a personal request, could we possibly get a little more post-quest dialogue for Lyvelia? I like her containment runes comment afterwards, but any sort of small conversations about follow-up experiments she's run, contact with Dareel since, making offers to the player to help her with more experiments either getting test subjects or as one (they dont actually have to lead anywhere), and especially any dialogue either about a post-quest slutmarked bimbo player or a bimbo player who's cured themselves would be nice to have; if nothing else than for characterization. If you actually DO want to give her cured self post quest content since her pre-quest self at least has the note quest and sex, maybe she just gives the player another reckless quest that adds corruption or cures it, or maybe if a player pushes back on her continuing experiments or tries to get her to hand over the canister after the quest she does something to add corruption. An optional way to get the Slutmarked version of Bimbofication after through this could be possible, commit to the pink hair and stuff, let the player go through the motions but this time there's no one who can actually cure them; just have the player go through it quickly this time like it happens in an in-game week. Not actually expecting that last idea that's just a suggestion if you want to go into it at all, I'd just personally like the extra dialogue. Always really liked this quest.

On the Slutmind stuff, good lord I get why you're struggling with this. I've thought on and off about it since the quest was added. Difficult thing to put in.

 

Hm. I think I noticed Lyli's sequence being a bit odd but I wrote it off as just Skyrim Skyrimming at the time, I was doing something else (verifying that corruption gets added correctly if you're wearing gloves or not). I swear it let me give her one too many doses of the salve, too. I'll have a look at it.

 

All the new content I had ready went into 1.8.3. I like incrementing my major version when I add gameplay content like a quest or system, and 1.8.3 was really mostly backend changes and tidying up loose ends from 1.8 (plus Morella's voice, but that was just a matter of timing). So 1.9 is currently at 0% complete, basically.

 

Yeah, I've been meaning to add something to non-bimbo Lyvelia for ages to balance out Lyvvi's little note quest. Some more dialogue would be nice, I'll do that even if I don't come up with a quest.

 

Yeah, making the Slutmind stuff harder is that if you leave Erina as a bimbo you don't get the items at all. The original intent was that they were your 'consolation prize' for getting the "good" ending and helping her- you don't get a cool item from the treasure hunter, you don't get bimbofied Erina in your game, but at least you get some misc items you can sell for gold.

The thing is, even if I did have a good concept for them, I think I'd rather just make that it's own thing rather then gating it behind Erina's quest.

 

4 hours ago, forgetme21 said:

im having a bit of a problem here, whenever i walk close to any of the mod npcs, the game just crashes, i cant interact with lilli battleborn nor any of the other quest npcs, any fixes for this?

 

A crash like that would typically indicate the SE patch not being installed correctly. If you're 100% certain it's right then I'm not sure.

  

7 hours ago, audhol said:

 

Ah, brilliant, thanks! I'll update the SE patch to include that tomorrow.

[H Bof]

I seem to be getting an issue with the follower controlled tonics mode with Morella at least, I haven't tried anyone else. But after she gives the tonic, trying to talk to her will make her say one of the random appropriate lines to begin dialogue. After that it then ends the conversation without even bringing up dialogue options like "I need to trade items", "wait here", "it's time to go our separate ways", etc. I am using EFF if that could be the cause and she's my only follower.

[DrSeptimus]

Holy moly..

 

I try lite YPS for the first time and the corruption come rolling in smoking hot. Even with all corruption set to 1, it is nearly unstoppable. By the time I have what I need to reduce the corruption, the corruption easily hit a staggering 80-90% already.

 

I wish there is at least 1 NPC that demands gold for cure instead of raw ingredients. 

How you guys slow down the corruption speed anyway?

[Balgin]

1 hour ago, DrSeptimus said:

I try lite YPS for the first time and the corruption come rolling in smoking hot. Even with all corruption set to 1, it is nearly unstoppable. By the time I have what I need to reduce the corruption, the corruption easily hit a staggering 80-90% already.

You had applying makeup can cause corruption turned on in the mcm didn't you? Or fashion addiction causes corruption. Those are the two main causes I can think of. Both in the top right hand corner of the first page of the mcm. If the mcm isn't available in the lite version then those two could be turned on by default.

[DrSeptimus]

55 minutes ago, Balgin said:

You had applying makeup can cause corruption turned on in the mcm didn't you? Or fashion addiction causes corruption. Those are the two main causes I can think of. Both in the top right hand corner of the first page of the mcm. If the mcm isn't available in the lite version then those two could be turned on by default.

 

I set the values of 1 for gameplay, but I never expect the corruption to spike soo fast despite the values of 1. Tbh, it can be control if NPC that cure corruption accept cash. Gathering raw material usually takes more time than gathering coin.

[Kingslayer101]

Is there a specific keyword the mod checks for slutty clothes? I have some revealing clothes equipped from ClothesPack5 and it gives me a notification that its not slutty.

[DrSeptimus]

4 minutes ago, Kingslayer101 said:

Is there a specific keyword the mod checks for slutty clothes? I have some revealing clothes equipped from ClothesPack5 and it gives me a notification that its not slutty.

 

CC_SluttyClothes if I remember the exact name of the keyword.

[H Bof]

1 hour ago, Kingslayer101 said:

Is there a specific keyword the mod checks for slutty clothes? I have some revealing clothes equipped from ClothesPack5 and it gives me a notification that its not slutty.

 

The keyword DrSeptimus mentioned works and there's also a check box in the MCM to set your current clothes to be slutty as well, I think it just needs to be applied to your body slot item to work in both cases.

[AphroditesEye]

Man, it's really fortunate timing I started my first full playthrough in months just days before this recent update, gives a chance for testing some stuff - so, Morella is missing voiced dialogue in some areas. The one I remember specifically is in the Mikael quest - she has no dialogue for one of the questions you ask her about Mikael himself, and lacks voice acting during the scene where she calls Lyli over to shit talk her.

Also NPCs still use her combat dialogue sometimes. Not sure why, I assume a dialogue condition. Also on occasion Bimbos will use Morella's voice for their dialogue, but not always. I think it's because they share voicetype. If you can give Morella her own voice-type in game (its actually not that difficult I've done this before myself and it requires zero scripting), this will fix that. The only complication with the voicetype thing is for Skyrim's marriage quest, which gives dialogue based on voicetype and I was never able to find a workaround for with my limited knowledge of how quests and scripting worked at the time. This is actually why Argonians lack dialogue about children, for some reason their voicetype was never given lines for Hearthfire, which always annoyed me. It's also why you get absolutely wack things like notorious hunter and Hircine lover Aela complaining that you moved her out into the woods, because her voice type is "FemaleCondescending", which you usually apply to snobs. The bright side is you could 100% ensure Morella had unique opinions on home choice.

Edited November 17, 2024 by AphroditesEye

[jib_buttkiss]

8 hours ago, H Bof said:

I seem to be getting an issue with the follower controlled tonics mode with Morella at least, I haven't tried anyone else. But after she gives the tonic, trying to talk to her will make her say one of the random appropriate lines to begin dialogue. After that it then ends the conversation without even bringing up dialogue options like "I need to trade items", "wait here", "it's time to go our separate ways", etc. I am using EFF if that could be the cause and she's my only follower.

 

That sounds like the forcegreet dialogue is getting stuck in some capacity. I'll take a look.

 

7 hours ago, DrSeptimus said:

Holy moly..

 

I try lite YPS for the first time and the corruption come rolling in smoking hot. Even with all corruption set to 1, it is nearly unstoppable. By the time I have what I need to reduce the corruption, the corruption easily hit a staggering 80-90% already.

 

I wish there is at least 1 NPC that demands gold for cure instead of raw ingredients. 

How you guys slow down the corruption speed anyway?

 

YPS can be pretty harsh with the corruption. You might want to turn some of it off completely, rather than just to 1.

  

6 hours ago, Kingslayer101 said:

Is there a specific keyword the mod checks for slutty clothes? I have some revealing clothes equipped from ClothesPack5 and it gives me a notification that its not slutty.

 

Yep- as the others said, CC_SluttyClothes, or add them using the "Tag current clothes as slutty". MCM button. Just remember that the MCM method is local to your savefile and won't persist if you start a new game (or add a ton of clothes using it, then forget to save afterwards and die...).

  

2 hours ago, AphroditesEye said:

Man, it's really fortunate timing I started my first full playthrough in months just days before this recent update, gives a chance for testing some stuff - so, Morella is missing voiced dialogue in some areas. The one I remember specifically is in the Mikael quest - she has no dialogue for one of the questions you ask her about Mikael himself, and lacks voice acting during the scene where she calls Lyli over to shit talk her.

Also NPCs still use her combat dialogue sometimes. Not sure why, I assume a dialogue condition. Also on occasion Bimbos will use Morella's voice for their dialogue, but not always. I think it's because they share voicetype. If you can give Morella her own voice-type in game (its actually not that difficult I've done this before myself and it requires zero scripting), this will fix that. The only complication with the voicetype thing is for Skyrim's marriage quest, which gives dialogue based on voicetype and I was never able to find a workaround for with my limited knowledge of how quests and scripting worked at the time. This is actually why Argonians lack dialogue about children, for some reason their voicetype was never given lines for Hearthfire, which always annoyed me. It's also why you get absolutely wack things like notorious hunter and Hircine lover Aela complaining that you moved her out into the woods, because her voice type is "FemaleCondescending", which you usually apply to snobs. The bright side is you could 100% ensure Morella had unique opinions on home choice.

 

Oh nice- I didn't exactly go through and test out every single line, so this is really helpful.

 

For those missing lines, I remember hearing them in my listen-throughs, so that's probably just typoes in the .fuz files names which is an easy fix. If you notice any other missing lines let me know- between CK being a prick about exporting the topic lines and having to manually label every line, there's sure to be a few that sneaked through.

 

Damn, I thought I quashed random NPCs saying her lines. Any idea which ones it was?

 

And yeah, I need to separate her out into having a unique voice type. I skipped over it to not delay 1.8.3 any further, but I will get it done in the next version. Currently Morella can still fallback to some vanilla voice lines, too, which it'll fix. I think the thing I'm most scared about having to implement is the actual wedding...

For the bimbo lines, yeah any FemaleEvenToned NPC will use Morella's voice for their bimbo lines, for the same reason. I figured that for now, I'd rather Morella's lines leaked out to other bimbos than have her be silent for them.

 

 

[Balgin]

3 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

And yeah, I need to separate her out into having a unique voice type. I skipped over it to not delay 1.8.3 any further, but I will get it done in the next version. Currently Morella can still fallback to some vanilla voice lines, too, which it'll fix.

 

 

Sometimes she reverts to her default voice for "goodbye" type dialogue lines or when opening the trade items menu as well. And during combat.

[H Bof]

1 hour ago, jib_buttkiss said:

That sounds like the forcegreet dialogue is getting stuck in some capacity. I'll take a look.

 

I should also mention that I had to talk to her to get the dialogue to start if it was supposed to be a forcegreet. 

 

After some more testing I wasn't able to get it to work or for Morella to start the dialogue herself. I was trying to see if it would sort itself out when the tonic wore off, but it looks like whatever bug it is is also preventing tonics from running out no matter how low I set the timer.

Edited November 18, 2024 by H Bof

[AphroditesEye]

51 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Damn, I thought I quashed random NPCs saying her lines. Any idea which ones it was?

 

 

All the same lines as before. I was stupid enough to update my SE to the most recent version two weeks ago so I'm still sorting out fixing my CK - but from when I have looked at it in the past, I was unable to figure out what was causing it. The only possible thing I could think of is the condition that checks if Morella is speaking the line is "!= 0" instead of "= 1", the logic behind that is that the condition ISN'T checking to see if the speaker IS Morella, it's checking to see if the speaker ISN'T Morella. There's a chance that just has buggy application so switching it to just "GetIsID CC_MorellaGraymane = 1" instead of "GetIsID CC_MorellaGraymane != 0" may fix it. I implemented all of her dialogue as a follower in a single quest for a reason, everything under the CCDLC_MorellaDialogue quest will only activate if it fulfills the quest's two main conditions - checking if the speaker is Morella, and checking if Morella is in the follower faction. This means ALL the dialogue in that quest, no matter what, will only even be checked if it can play if Morella is a follower and she's the one saying it. This is why you may have noticed I placed Morella's non-follower dialogue for when she's just in town in a separate quest that holds all Morella-related dialogue not spoken by her as a follower; such as Morella's lines if she's in town while not a follower or NPCs commenting on Morella herself. This method also has the bonus application that you don't need to put the condition to check if the NPC speaking is Morella in every single dialogue option, which is laggy because opening the "GetIsID" list requires the game to load EVERY SINGLE NPC (which I imagine was annoying when you had to do Lyvelia's quest), into every individual dialogue linked to the character you want speaking it. This is why every city in the game has an entire quest dedicated to it's citizens non-quest dialogue. It's a more efficient way of handling things that doesn't risk some code fuck-up causing NPCs to say dialogue they shouldn't have.

I was actually confused when I initially went through the files and saw you implemented post-quest dialogue this way because of its inefficiency, but I figured you just didn't know/consider this method, which to be ENTIRELY FAIR, I only figured out because I looked through Inigo's files like a decade ago when I was first trying to figure out how to do all this. Inigo's developer has said on the record this was his first time doing something like this, and imo to this day he is still the most fleshed out and competently put together follower mod, so I generally try to follow the dialogue rules I saw established in that mod when putting together dialogue mods of my own as a result.

That probably didn't need to be two whole paragraphs, but yeah tl;dr just change the dialogue condition and hopefully *that* will fix it, otherwise your other less-confusing, easy for future updates but potentially more time consuming option is just making a new quest for Morella and moving the dialogue you've written for her as a follower there. Alternatively you could just move it to the CCDLC_Morella quest in its relevant areas and that'll just solve the whole issue on it's own. If you plan on doing this though, make sure you put Morella's combat-based dialogue in the combat tab as opposed to the Idle tab you currently have it in - that's probably the biggest reason her combat dialogue is so likely to play for non-Morella NPCs to begin with, as combat dialogue already has a dedicated area in the CK and playing it the way you implemented it might be confusing the CK.

Edited November 18, 2024 by AphroditesEye