Bimbos Of Skyrim LE/SE

[zelurker]

2 minutes ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

Rein it in- don't be a dick.

You incorrectly told someone that the core of my mod doesn't work with a male player, and I clarified otherwise.

 

Yes, two of the six quests in the mod don't have proper dialogue for a male player, but I acknowledged that and said that I plan to fix it in literally that same post.

 

Well the sex scene at the end of the college quest, the guy requesting this to fix the potion becomes some gay sex and it's very weird too !

But yeah I have learned to ignore this when possible. Thanks for the variables names to stop that, I'll check my number of notes, but I think I must have 4 already and didn't hear about the meeting in Markarth yet... anyway thanks for the work and the info !

[jib_buttkiss]

1 hour ago, zelurker said:

 

Well the sex scene at the end of the college quest, the guy requesting this to fix the potion becomes some gay sex and it's very weird too !

But yeah I have learned to ignore this when possible. Thanks for the variables names to stop that, I'll check my number of notes, but I think I must have 4 already and didn't hear about the meeting in Markarth yet... anyway thanks for the work and the info !

 

Yeah, I was going to mention that but I was too busy being cross: while I don't consider the occasional bit of manlove to be a game-breaking error, I do have a Quest NPC Genderbend patch that flips male quest NPCs to be female. You'll still be submissive and under their control, but at least you won't be Gay.

(...though I forgot to add the guy at the end of the college quest into it. I'll do that.)

 

For the notes, it might like 5 or 6? I changed it around a lot while working on it, so I can't quite remember the exact number.

Edited October 2, 2024 by jib_buttkiss

[Miauzi]

Vor 1 Stunde sagte jib_buttkiss:

 

Zügeln Sie es – seien Sie kein Idiot.

Du hast jemandem fälschlicherweise gesagt, dass der Kern meiner Mod bei einem männlichen Spieler nicht funktioniert, und ich habe das Gegenteil klargestellt.

 

Ja, zwei der sechs Quests in der Mod haben keinen richtigen Dialog für einen männlichen Spieler, aber ich habe das zur Kenntnis genommen und gesagt, dass ich vorhabe, das Problem im wahrsten Sinne des Wortes im selben Beitrag zu beheben.

 

Well - everything is a question of communication... and when you spend countless pages talking about the color of lipstick or the length of your fingernails - the integration of the yps mod becomes an essential part of the mod... then certain aspects are lost for a user of the mod.

(By the way - in my native language "German" the term "bimbo" means a male fuck doll.)

 

Also - the quest with the hypnosis of the player... high heels and mini dresses are worn - triggered by the trigger sentence in the letters.

For a male character, this has absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality - it is pure transvestism... at best something from "Rocky Horror Picture Show"

when it comes to the humiliation of a male "stallion" - there can hardly be anything better... but how do you get something like that sorted out with the body templates for the dress?

[DepEnc]

This really is a fantastic mod, and I really wish I had the skills to do something like it - or even just make an add on to it.

 

For example, I can imagine a questline that activates after you finish "A Night To Remember".

 

The female Daedra from the Bimbo dreams appears to you, or maybe just summons you back to the garden. She tells you that your night out with Sam sealed your fate and you are infected with the bimbo curse.

 

She explains there is no way to stop it, and taunts you with the knowledge of your fate. But she suggests that there are ways to circumvent it and negate the harmful effects. In exchange for going out and doing quests that spread the Bimbo curse, she will prevent you from suffering from the harmful drawbacks of your condition, even as you continue to transform. She may also give you some unique abilities and perks as well. She also encourages you along, saying that her guidance will help you think clearly again, without mentioning that it will just be thinking about being a good girl.

 

Another option issues that she doesn't inflict you with the curse, but recruits you to inflict it on NPCs with various means in exchange for various powers and rewards. Of course, she probably won't mention that each act adds corruption until it is too late.

[gustavoananias12]

17 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

If no scripts are triggering on dialogues, it's some kind of install issue.

 

Thank you my friend. I fixed, 

[Keyligoe]

Amazing work, I have really enjoyed everthing.

But I wonder if you could compress the mod with .zaz or .7z. My mod organizer can not handle with .rar,  always forcing me to recompress it again, a little bit annoying.

[Miauzi]

Vor 15 Minuten sagte Keyligoe:

Tolle Arbeit, ich habe alles wirklich genossen.

Aber ich frage mich, ob man den Mod mit .zaz oder .7z komprimieren könnte. Mein Mod-Organizer kommt mit .rar nicht zurecht und zwingt mich immer dazu, es erneut zu komprimieren, was etwas nervig ist.

 

Then you should switch to a more recent mod organizer ... like "Vortex" or "MO2"

 

[abc18]

I don't know if this has been asked before, but I'm having troubles with starting the course in skyrim special edition. I try to force the transformation using the mcm, but i only get the pink notifications, not messages popping up for my character or my followers, and the only way to "progress" the curse is using "setstage cc_bimbofyplayer". And when the mod tries to use the nails, the hands of the character goes completely invisible. Any solution or idea of what is happening? I just installed the reccent versions of BoS, YPS, and i even installed a port of SLAX for special edition, but nothing seems to work 

[周树人同学]

When PC turns into bimbo, her tattoos overlap with her translucent clothes and start flashing.  How do I solve this problem?  Also, when the corruption phase goes to the next stage ,the text in "bimbo dreams.json" does not appear, is there something wrong with my operation?

[jib_buttkiss]

On 10/2/2024 at 10:24 PM, Miauzi said:

Also - the quest with the hypnosis of the player... high heels and mini dresses are worn - triggered by the trigger sentence in the letters.

For a male character, this has absolutely nothing to do with homosexuality - it is pure transvestism... at best something from "Rocky Horror Picture Show"

when it comes to the humiliation of a male "stallion" - there can hardly be anything better... but how do you get something like that sorted out with the body templates for the dress?

 

My current thinking for the hypno quest is that I'll disable it for a male player (unless the user deliberately allows it in the MCM, with a warning). That way it can exist in the game, ready to trigger if the player is genderbent into a woman.

 

But my point is that the fact that one quest isn't appropriate for a male player does not mean that the whole mod isn't.

 

9 hours ago, abc18 said:

I don't know if this has been asked before, but I'm having troubles with starting the course in skyrim special edition. I try to force the transformation using the mcm, but i only get the pink notifications, not messages popping up for my character or my followers, and the only way to "progress" the curse is using "setstage cc_bimbofyplayer". And when the mod tries to use the nails, the hands of the character goes completely invisible. Any solution or idea of what is happening? I just installed the reccent versions of BoS, YPS, and i even installed a port of SLAX for special edition, but nothing seems to work 

 

The curse takes time to apply. Try setting the hours per curse stage setting to 1 hour, then waiting an hour at a time.

 

Invisible hands is an issue with YPS nails.

 

8 hours ago, 周树人同学 said:

When PC turns into bimbo, her tattoos overlap with her translucent clothes and start flashing.  How do I solve this problem?  Also, when the corruption phase goes to the next stage ,the text in "bimbo dreams.json" does not appear, is there something wrong with my operation?

 

Tattoos and transparent clothes flicking are an issue with Slavetats.

 

Have you edited the bimboDreams json at all? Any errors there could prevent it displaying. Also, if you're progressing the curse with console commands the stories won't display- they only play if the curse advances by time.

Edited October 4, 2024 by jib_buttkiss

[Alis_999]

Hey, @jib_buttkiss!

My question: looks like you play with SL Survival, so can you please look how Survival begging tasks works and extend your hypnotic tasks so that the player would have to interact not with any NPC, but random chosen one nearby?

Edited October 4, 2024 by Alis_999

[DrSeptimus]

Regarding the bimbo process, would you be planning to make it similar to Fever Dreams in the future? Was hoping it would be more than a text..

[Zor2k13]

Going through the quests now and I forgot if there were two npcs that attempt the player hypnosis or just one? I think I installed a file from here that makes them female too.

[Wut1969]

15 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

 

My current thinking for the hypno quest is that I'll disable it for a male player (unless the user deliberately allows it in the MCM, with a warning). That way it can exist in the game, ready to trigger if the player is genderbent into a woman.

 

But my point is that the fact that one quest isn't appropriate for a male player does not mean that the whole mod isn't.

 

@jib_buttkiss, I hope you don't make those changes;

 

First, I think it is really funny that that happened but more importantly I think thay players should think about the mods they put in their modlist and the choices they make in the MCM.

 

Just as an example; I have PrisonOverhaulPatched in my modlist and so my PC got spanked. As I'm not into that, I was annoyed. Should I blame Inte? Of course not, it was my choice to load that mod and not spend enough time in the MCM to figure out -if- the mod would be able to fit my playstyle and if it was, to make the right choices when using it.

The same goes for BoS. If someone decides to play as a male and if they decide to leave the hypno quest untouched, they should expect being sissified.

 

Maybe you never planned for that to happen, but that is beside the point. We as players are responsible for our modlists and the options we choose and neglect in the MCMs.

If you do not want players to become sissified you can of course disable the oportunity as it is your mod, but I really think you shouldn't cave in to laziness and stupidity. You won't win that battle anyway.

 

As for PrisonOverhaulPatched; it is now happily in my modlist and is helps to corrupt/drain my pickpocketing PC for BoS and a dozen other mods.  The only thing it needed was me paying attention.

[jib_buttkiss]

17 hours ago, Alis_999 said:

Hey, @jib_buttkiss!

My question: looks like you play with SL Survival, so can you please look how Survival begging tasks works and extend your hypnotic tasks so that the player would have to interact not with any NPC, but random chosen one nearby?

 

I mean I could? But it'd be a little fiddly to do, and I'm not sure how much it adds to the feature. And it seems odd that a letter sent to you across Skyrim could know that a particular person who was going to be near you when you read it!

 

13 hours ago, DrSeptimus said:

Regarding the bimbo process, would you be planning to make it similar to Fever Dreams in the future? Was hoping it would be more than a text..

 

That's the general plan, yeah. Not sure when I'll get around to it, though.

 

8 hours ago, Zor2k13 said:

Going through the quests now and I forgot if there were two npcs that attempt the player hypnosis or just one? I think I installed a file from here that makes them female too.

 

There's two- one minor one who sells you the hypnosis vials to use on other NPCs (and has some dialogue about hypnotising you), and the other has the whole quest about them hypnotising you.

 

The Femmed Doms patch from my custom patches page changes them both to be women.

 

3 hours ago, Wut1969 said:

@jib_buttkiss, I hope you don't make those changes;

 

First, I think it is really funny that that happened but more importantly I think thay players should think about the mods they put in their modlist and the choices they make in the MCM.

 

Just as an example; I have PrisonOverhaulPatched in my modlist and so my PC got spanked. As I'm not into that, I was annoyed. Should I blame Inte? Of course not, it was my choice to load that mod and not spend enough time in the MCM to figure out -if- the mod would be able to fit my playstyle and if it was, to make the right choices when using it.

The same goes for BoS. If someone decides to play as a male and if they decide to leave the hypno quest untouched, they should expect being sissified.

 

Maybe you never planned for that to happen, but that is beside the point. We as players are responsible for our modlists and the options we choose and neglect in the MCMs.

If you do not want players to become sissified you can of course disable the oportunity as it is your mod, but I really think you shouldn't cave in to laziness and stupidity. You won't win that battle anyway.

 

As for PrisonOverhaulPatched; it is now happily in my modlist and is helps to corrupt/drain my pickpocketing PC for BoS and a dozen other mods.  The only thing it needed was me paying attention.

 

Yeah, but I looked at how much gendered language there is in the hypnosis quest and decided that I'm too lazy to go through and make male alternatives for all of it. Add in the fact that at least 2 of the missions don't work for males due to the clothes not having male meshes, and I figured the best solution is to disable the quest for males by default. The player has the option to acknowledge the issues, then turn it on again.

 

That way a user doesn't get hit with a semi-broken quest that they weren't expecting- particularly since the rest of the mod works for male characters pretty seamlessly. That's the biggest reason really- this is the only part of the mod that's actually slightly broken for male characters, rather than just having some inaccurate dialogue.

[audhol]

1 hour ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Add in the fact that at least 2 of the missions don't work for males due to the clothes not having male meshes

I mean if you really wanted too we could fit the dress and heels to the male body but that still doesnt fix up all the other work you'd need to do.

 

 

BTW I just finished getting a setup ready to play BOS but I wanted some more NG clothes so I started patching the outfits to moire flippy bouncy clothes. I think this kinda fits Anaita no?

 

 

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[Wut1969]

Just now, audhol said:

I mean if you really wanted too we could fit the dress and heels to the male body but that still doesnt fix up all the other work you'd need to do.

Or if jib doesn't want to lean into the sissification theme, maybe have males run around naked or in revealing clothes (Bad Dog made a Skimpy clothes mod).

Plenty of options. 🙄

 

The worrying part is that we agree.

 

As for the pink dress... I just .. maybe.. you know ... it is a .... ah forget it, if that is what my PC ends up wearing I'll just deal with it. 🤷‍♂️

[Balgin]

2 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Yeah, but I looked at how much gendered language there is in the hypnosis quest and decided that I'm too lazy to go through and make male alternatives for all of it. Add in the fact that at least 2 of the missions don't work for males due to the clothes not having male meshes, and I figured the best solution is to disable the quest for males by default. The player has the option to acknowledge the issues, then turn it on again.

 

That way a user doesn't get hit with a semi-broken quest that they weren't expecting- particularly since the rest of the mod works for male characters pretty seamlessly. That's the biggest reason really- this is the only part of the mod that's actually slightly broken for male characters, rather than just having some inaccurate dialogue.

The hypno quests can make sense for a male character if you have sex change on 100 corruption turned on. Then it could be a slippery slope as the hypnotisers keep gaslighting them by using female gendered language as they steer them slowly towards womanhood. Especially if the main in question is about to start the Dibella quest from YPS (or has already done so) at the same time.

[Miauzi]

Vor 28 Minuten sagte Balgin:

Die Hypno-Quests können für einen männlichen Charakter sinnvoll sein, wenn Sie die Geschlechtsumwandlung bei 100 Korruption aktiviert haben. Dann könnte es ein heikles Unterfangen werden, da die Hypnotiseure sie immer wieder unter Druck setzen, indem sie eine weibliche geschlechtsspezifische Sprache verwenden, während sie sie langsam in Richtung Frau lenken. Vor allem, wenn der betreffende Hauptspieler gerade dabei ist, die Dibella-Quest von YPS aus zu starten (oder dies bereits getan hat).

 

The question is ultimately -> won't this coercion become too "intrusive"?

 

Ultimately, you can't turn a man into a woman - if his "soul" hasn't always been "predominantly female".

The inner insecurity associated with this is often covered up with an extreme "male" demeanor - that is a very difficult protective armor to break through.

Coercion from outside doesn't help at all here - it has to come from within... that then requires certain "tempting offers" - "yps" is already on the right track here!

 

The hypnosis quest - this is my purely personal opinion (from personal experience with this topic!) - is counterproductive here.

 

One of the basic ideas of BoS is -> to cleverly break down the inner walls ... but that was about the meta-topic of "liberated sexuality"

That doesn't fit 1:1 with the topic of "gender change" ... although the term "change" is actually wrong - because it is more about a "correction" of the external physical appearance

[audhol]

40 minutes ago, Wut1969 said:

Or if jib doesn't want to lean into the sissification theme, maybe have males run around naked or in revealing clothes (Bad Dog made a Skimpy clothes mod).

 

 

45 minutes ago, Wut1969 said:

As for the pink dress... I just .. maybe.. you know ... it is a .... ah forget it, if that is what my PC ends up wearing I'll just deal with it

Well the way that Jib has set up his structure the bimbo outfits are seperate from the outfits for each bimbo sooooo they could all have their own outfits and theres still 9 mid and full outfits that can be different for all none premade Bimbos.

[Balgin]

45 minutes ago, Miauzi said:

The hypnosis quest - this is my purely personal opinion (from personal experience with this topic!) - is counterproductive here.

I don't disagree with you. I was merely offering a possible reason why it could remain available.

[Wut1969]

Just now, Miauzi said:

Ultimately, you can't turn a man into a woman - if his "soul" hasn't always been "predominantly female".

The inner insecurity associated with this is often covered up with an extreme "male" demeanor - that is a very difficult protective armor to break through.

Coercion from outside doesn't help at all here - it has to come from within... that then requires certain "tempting offers" - "yps" is already on the right track here!

 

The hypnosis quest - this is my purely personal opinion (from personal experience with this topic!) - is counterproductive here.

 

One of the basic ideas of BoS is -> to cleverly break down the inner walls ... but that was about the meta-topic of "liberated sexuality"

That doesn't fit 1:1 with the topic of "gender change" ... although the term "change" is actually wrong - because it is more about a "correction" of the external physical appearance

You seem to forget that this is just a game and that we're on LL, so almost everything can happen. 🤷‍♂️

 

 

 

[Alis_999]

6 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

I mean I could? But it'd be a little fiddly to do, and I'm not sure how much it adds to the feature. And it seems odd that a letter sent to you across Skyrim could know that a particular person who was going to be near you when you read it!

I just meant that after delivering the letter the player can complete the task with joy courier himself as the target. 😁 That's why I say that a random NPC would at least make the FPC move her ass and go somewhere Well, ideally, it would be nice if the quest objective was chosen randomly in any populated area and the time to complete it was 2-3 days. And the debuff would not be given immediately, but after that 2-3 days expires, until the player completes the quest. However, if this is too difficult to implement, then it would be possible to little change the task, for example, not just tell someone about yourself, but tell 2-3 different NPCs about yourself, so that in addition to the courier FPC would have to find someone else.

  

6 hours ago, jib_buttkiss said:

Yeah, but I looked at how much gendered language there is in the hypnosis quest and decided that I'm too lazy to go through and make male alternatives for all of it. Add in the fact that at least 2 of the missions don't work for males due to the clothes not having male meshes, and I figured the best solution is to disable the quest for males by default. The player has the option to acknowledge the issues, then turn it on again.

And if you decide add conditions and phrases for MPC, then after that a "non-binary" player will appear, offended that their character is not addressed by the pronoun "they". 🤣

Edited October 5, 2024 by Alis_999

[Wut1969]

@jib_buttkiss; I have once again found a bug that you can totally ignore; Anaita has the rules even when she tells the player she lost them. My pickpocketing thief -knows-. 😜

 

 

[jib_buttkiss]

10 hours ago, audhol said:

I mean if you really wanted too we could fit the dress and heels to the male body but that still doesnt fix up all the other work you'd need to do.

 

 

BTW I just finished getting a setup ready to play BOS but I wanted some more NG clothes so I started patching the outfits to moire flippy bouncy clothes. I think this kinda fits Anaita no?

 

 

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Eh, I don't think it's worth the effort of making the clothes male-compatible. There's enough other issues that I'm okay just warning the player that the quest works poorly for a male character and leaving it at that.

 

It does suit her quite nicely, doesn't it?

 

6 hours ago, Alis_999 said:

I just meant that after delivering the letter the player can complete the task with joy courier himself as the target. 😁 That's why I say that a random NPC would at least make the FPC move her ass and go somewhere Well, ideally, it would be nice if the quest objective was chosen randomly in any populated area and the time to complete it was 2-3 days. And the debuff would not be given immediately, but after that 2-3 days expires, until the player completes the quest. However, if this is too difficult to implement, then it would be possible to little change the task, for example, not just tell someone about yourself, but tell 2-3 different NPCs about yourself, so that in addition to the courier FPC would have to find someone else.

  

And if you decide add conditions and phrases for MPC, then after that a "non-binary" player will appear, offended that their character is not addressed by the pronoun "they". 🤣

 

Oh yeah, it is a bit rubbish that the player can just immediately do the task with the courier, isn't it? I'm a bit hesitant to fiddle with the hypno quest too much (it's pretty volatile already), but I could pretty easily exclude him as a valid target at least.

 

9 hours ago, Miauzi said:

 

The question is ultimately -> won't this coercion become too "intrusive"?

 

No more intrusive than it is for a female player.

 

5 hours ago, Wut1969 said:

@jib_buttkiss; I have once again found a bug that you can totally ignore; Anaita has the rules even when she tells the player she lost them. My pickpocketing thief -knows-. 😜

 

 

Huh, oops. Well, it'll probably be a quick fix so I may as well sort it out.