Commonwealth Slavers

[Plite]

1 hour ago, JB. said:

Narratively, I simply don't see them as compatible. In the True Ending, Nora ends up as an vigilante.

Я с этим не согласен. Полностью. Если Норе повезло убить 5-6 врагов, то это еще не делает ее элитным бойцом штурмового отряда. Она как была испуганной девчонкой, так и остается ею. Особенно с характерными настройками Sex Attributes (я не знаю как это называется в английской версии, но в русском переводе это - "извращение", когда у нее трясутся коленки и она не может выстрелить во врага).

 

2 hours ago, JB. said:

There's no way she'd go into porn.

Нора не должна идти в порностудию и без Commonwealth Slavers. Сейчас она выглядит как идиотка в обоих случаях.

 

Norita's Route имеет сюжетную завязку и хорошо проработанное развитие сюжета. У Nora's Route есть только последующий сюжет, но совершенно нет вменяемого начала. Commonwealth Slavers выглядит как начало пути Норы, от которой в Commonwealth Slavers почти ничего не зависит. Но в Nuka Ride она уже может принимать решения, которые могут сказываться как на ее характере, так и на ее будущем.

 

Сейчас у тебя три проекта: Commonwealth Slavers, Nora's Route и Norita's Route. Но ты никак не хочешь признать, что у тебя не три проекта, а четыре. Четвертый проект - это путь Норы от рабыни до полноценной и уверенной в себе женщины. Nora's Route даже особо и переделывать не нужно для этого - там уже почти все нужное присутствует, кроме вменяемого начала.

 

И пусть Commonwealth Slavers развивается дальше. Тем, кому нравится просто издеваться над Норой, сюжет Commonwealth Slavers подойдет и без Nuka Ride. А для тех, кто стремится к "True Ending", Nora's Route может стать великолепным продолжением "приключений" Норы.

 

Я мог бы много про это написать, но языковой барьер все равно половину смысла сломает...

 

P.S. И ты уж прости меня за то, что я настаиваю на этом. Я знаю, что эта тема тебе уже надоела, но я не могу молчать, когда ты пытаешься заживо похоронить такой великолепный сюжет 😁

[Mushikisai]

Have the VTAW10 outfits been used on NPCs so far? 🤔

I’m just wondering whether to install the vtaw10 patch 😉

[valcon767]

just my opinion on Nora going to NR after CS.

 

bad ending - it makes sense

 

true ending - depends on Noras actions during CS

 

Spoiler

if Nora takes every chance to build combat skills she can she would be kinda tough and mostly ready to try on her own.

this would mean doing The Pitt (and winning), then she fights Dwayne, and does as much fighting with Dwayne while getting out of the lab.

so she probably would not go do porn (might anyway if she is now a nympho and needs regular sex and prefers it to be mostly her choice).

 

however if Nora did not build combat skills every chance she gets it would still make sense to go to NR

did not do The Pitt (or tried and lost), only did the single Dwayne fight needed, and let Dwayne do the heavy lifting during the escape from

the lab,  Nora would end with no real combat skills and lots of stuff that she knows she is not ready for yet:

    multiple different raider gangs

    lost of gunner groups

    supermutants (big tough hulking mutated humaniods)

    behmoths (even bigger and tougher versions of super mutants)

    and more creatures and other hazards

seeing all this and only having a single good weapon she could very well decide to go do porn for protection until she gains more skills

and supplies.

 

 

[JB.]

1 hour ago, Mushikisai said:

Have the VTAW10 outfits been used on NPCs so far? 🤔

I’m just wondering whether to install the vtaw10 patch 😉

Not yet. I'll add it to the fomod when I have it implemented. The version of Vtaw10 that I currently have in the optional folder is only for crafting them and equipping them.

 

I've been thinking about implementing this mod (reusing its scripts) to do the kidnappings. 👇

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/24690

 

That mod makes raiders kidnap you. But I'll have the Triggermen kidnap slaves to be tortured by Marowski, or Latimer, or Mr. Coddman. If you leave the safe zones (raider camps, mutants, gunners) the chances of an "express kidnapping" will increase. Then they will throw Nora back into the Commonwealth. 

 

They could dress Nora in a sailor suit from vtaw10 (for example) before handing her over to their employer.

Edited March 15 by JB.

[JB.]

1 hour ago, Plite said:

Я с этим не согласен. Полностью. Если Норе повезло убить 5-6 врагов, то это еще не делает ее элитным бойцом штурмового отряда. Она как была испуганной девчонкой, так и остается ею. Особенно с характерными настройками Sex Attributes (я не знаю как это называется в английской версии, но в русском переводе это - "извращение", когда у нее трясутся коленки и она не может выстрелить во врага).

 

Нора не должна идти в порностудию и без Commonwealth Slavers. Сейчас она выглядит как идиотка в обоих случаях.

 

Norita's Route имеет сюжетную завязку и хорошо проработанное развитие сюжета. У Nora's Route есть только последующий сюжет, но совершенно нет вменяемого начала. Commonwealth Slavers выглядит как начало пути Норы, от которой в Commonwealth Slavers почти ничего не зависит. Но в Nuka Ride она уже может принимать решения, которые могут сказываться как на ее характере, так и на ее будущем.

 

Сейчас у тебя три проекта: Commonwealth Slavers, Nora's Route и Norita's Route. Но ты никак не хочешь признать, что у тебя не три проекта, а четыре. Четвертый проект - это путь Норы от рабыни до полноценной и уверенной в себе женщины. Nora's Route даже особо и переделывать не нужно для этого - там уже почти все нужное присутствует, кроме вменяемого начала.

 

И пусть Commonwealth Slavers развивается дальше. Тем, кому нравится просто издеваться над Норой, сюжет Commonwealth Slavers подойдет и без Nuka Ride. А для тех, кто стремится к "True Ending", Nora's Route может стать великолепным продолжением "приключений" Норы.

 

Я мог бы много про это написать, но языковой барьер все равно половину смысла сломает...

 

P.S. И ты уж прости меня за то, что я настаиваю на этом. Я знаю, что эта тема тебе уже надоела, но я не могу молчать, когда ты пытаешься заживо похоронить такой великолепный сюжет 😁

I'm really not interested in taking on more work. And it doesn't motivate me. But if someone has the skill, they can do it. But I prefer to work on things I'm interested in, or I'll burn out.

[Mushikisai]

1 hour ago, JB. said:

Not yet. I'll add it to the fomod when I have it implemented. The version of Vtaw10 that I currently have in the optional folder is only for crafting them and equipping them.

 

I've been thinking about implementing this mod (reusing its scripts) to do the kidnappings. 👇

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/24690

 

That mod makes raiders kidnap you. But I'll have the Triggermen kidnap slaves to be tortured by Marowski, or Latimer, or Mr. Coddman. If you leave the safe zones (raider camps, mutants, gunners) the chances of an "express kidnapping" will increase. Then they will throw Nora back into the Commonwealth. 

 

They could dress Nora in a sailor suit from vtaw10 (for example) before handing it over to their employer.

OMG that's incredible!

This reminds me of some thoughts about Lorenzo Cabot 🤔

Maybe this odd old bloke will purchase Nora and get up to some DDLGplays?

That's what I came up with immediately when I saw you mention the sailor suit😍.

 

[Evelynith]

4 minutes ago, JB. said:

Currently, it's not very safe to install them and have them together. They're currently editing the same area (Nuka Town), and depending on what other mods you might have, it could cause conflicts and generate CTDs. But I'll have a solution for that in the future, which was also another user's idea.

 

Right now, though, technically, they're barely compatible.

 

Narratively, I simply don't see them as compatible. In the True Ending, Nora ends up as an vigilante. There's no way she'd go into porn.

Thanks for the clarification regarding compatibility, based on what you said and looking through xEdit at what is being edited, if I was thorough in patching, do you think it would be safe to install or would you still recommend against it. (I would be happy to provide what ever patch I make for you or others to use)

 

I have my own head canon/narrative for why my Nora would want to go to Nuka Ride and do Porn (See spoiler, just a warning it may be a bit of a long read and I am not great when it comes to story writing so its completely fine if you don't want to bother, I will put a TLDR at the top. If you do actually read it and like any parts of the story feel free you use anything you want. Also for anyone else that may read this, it may contain spoilers for some of the mods quests and events in the case you have yet to play it, hopefully I have been vague enough as to not spoil too much.)

Spoiler

TLDR: Nora has vowed to eliminate all raiders and slavery in the Commonwealth. Using the skills and experience she gained while working in the whore house, she goes undercover as a porn actress in the hopes of finding a way to destroy this new group of raiders. Now Nora needs to resist falling under the influences of these new raiders while keeping her cover as a porn star.

 

 

Backstory leading up to the start of the Mod: Nora is in her mid thirties, a lawyer turned housewife due to recent child birth. Nate has giving Nora some very basic combat training in the form of military CQC (close-quarters-combat/Melee) and how to safely handle and fire a hand-gun (10mm pistol). This is for Nora's own self defence in order to be able to protect herself and Shaun in the worst case event that "The RED Menace/Commies" made it to American soil and Nate was not with her. (this is my own explanation for why Nora is able to fight her way out of Vault 111)

The next series of events all seem to happen in a rapid pace, from witnessing the Atomic Bombs falling, to entering the vault and being cryo frozen, next she is waking up and having to watch Nate be murdered and Shaun kidnapped before being frozen again and finally waking up again, with this time being able to escape her pod and trying to rescue Nate, only to find him dead and frozen, the same outcome for every other vault dweller still in their pods. (From Nora's perspective this would of all taken place in only a couple of hours from her perception)

 

Having just exited the vault, Nora is still in shock and trauma from everything she has just gone through, it doesn't help that the first glimpse of the outside world is the aftermath from the bombs falling. Still not having had any time to process the recent events, Nora looks around and sees an injured man ("Murphy", Nora has no idea about the concept of raiders so all she sees is a fellow American needing help), rushing to help the man she is unaware of the second person sneaking up behind her. Gristle is easily able to grab Nora and Disarm her before she is able to use the little skills she has. Only after she has been grabbed does she realise the possibility that these men could be involved with Nate and Shaun (this is my reasoning for an initial rebellion start).

 

From the start of the mod and until the time skip sees Nora being as rebellious and defiant as possible, she still believes these people (the raiders) are somehow responsible, involved or know something about the actual people responsible for Nate and Shaun (At this point as Nora's is exiting Vault 111 her mind and psyche have already started to break down, she just wasn't aware of it then and still isn't now). 

Everyday there is always something new to add on to the constant rape, physical and mental abuse, the constant rumbling of her stomach, another puff of slavers jet to distract her from that empty feeling and each time one more crack forms in her humanity. Inevitably Nora finally succumbs and breaks just as Jared said she would, however her willpower and resistance didn't go unnoticed from one very unlikely person (Gristle, this is the reason he helps Nora, even if its only for his own reasons)

 

(Time Skip): Nora is now a completely broken and submissive junky slave, or so it would seem, every now and then a small glimpse of the old Nora would show up. When ever any opportunity would present itself for Nora to escape, for a brief moment of time her lucidity would come back and she would reach out trying to grasp at and take hold of the moment. Unfortunately the constant abuse and drugs have wrecked Nora's ability to capitalize on the presented state and she fails each time. With each failure the punishment is worse than the last, culminating in Nora losing both her arms. The raiders wanted to make sure she couldn't grasp anything ever again both literally and figuratively (I forget what quests and when amputation events happen, but she will lose both arms). The raiders thinking they have finally broken Nora for good, but still keep her around, as even in her current state she is still good to work in the whore house and even with her Jet addled mind, Nora is still smarter than most of the raiders in the gang, which again doesn't go unnoticed by Gristle.

 

Time keeps passing and even in Nora's current state she is still one of the best earners in the whore house and a reliable slave, so much so that Jared still entrusts her with tasks he needs completing (this represents the needed jobs done to trigger the end quest, I want to do about 50-100 to help simulate a long time passing but I will see if I can endure doing that many). It seems like this is now Nora's life she will have to keep working for the raiders until her body finally breaks down just as her mind has. That would be what she has come to accept if not for Gristle to pull her aside and out of view of the other raiders, explaining he has a task for Nora which only she is able to do as Gristle can't rely on the other slaves to complete. This one single moment was the spark which rekindled the the smoldering embers of her mind, bringing light and life back into her eyes. Realising that something has changed in Gristle she aggress to do his task as this will be her final chance to break free of this place, if she fails again Nora's mind will never recover. (start of the end quest, I want to make a split save, one for the true ending and one for eternal slave)

 

Commonwealth Slavers Story ends here (sort of): I have not fully completed the end of Slavers yet the last time I played the true end was still being worked on, I got up to the point of being locked in the stock in slavers valley which was as far as the end was complete last when I played. I do remember that near the end there is a machine to restore Nora's limbs and cure her Jet addiction as well as other things. When I reach that point again my head canon will be that the Machine will have been damaged and it can only restore one of her arms and while it may be able to sort of heal her brain/mind it cant completely remove her dependency on slavers jet due to Nora's long term use of the chem.

 

Nuka Ride Starts Here (True CS ending): Nora is free, she and Gristle ended up destroying the slavers operation, although that was not Gristle's intention he still played a part in the raiders demise, even then it is only temporary and new raiders will move into Corvega again. The other whores and slaves are also free, with Nora having taken over the old house for her own use, it is in the perfect location to keep an eye on the surrounding raider gangs making sure none of them start up the slaving business again. During one of Nora's vigilante scouting missions, while spying from the shadows of the buildings in Lexington, she is listening into a conversation between two new raiders. These two new gang members have recently joined up with the latest group of raiders to take up residence in the Corvega plant. They are speaking about some sort of "Raiders Paradise" in a place called Nuka World, Nora vaguely remembers the advertisement for the place on the television, a Theme Park for Nuka Cola as she recalls. The two raiders keep talking about the place while Nora is still lost in thought recalling the information about the park, she is only snapped out of her thoughtful daze when the raiders start speaking about the slaves in this so called paradise.

Nora still bares the remnants of the psychical and mental scars she received while suffering under the hands of the raiders, permanent reminders of everything she endured. Her left arm was not able to be restored like her right arm was and she still carries the brands and marks left on her body. She still also needs to take regular doses of the special jet the raiders used on her as otherwise her mind becomes cloudy and she starts to forget, more than once she has woken up in a location she has no recollection of traveling to or for what reason. Nora needs to remember; remember Nate, remember Shaun and to remember her goals of not allowing anyone else to go through the things she did as a slave, now she has turned those reminders on her body into vows and every time she looks at them she remembers. 

Looking back up from her body Nora remembers about the two raiders and continues listening as they speak, one of them is talking about a robot which has shown up near Drumlin Diner looking for something called a "Porn Actor" to take back to Nuka World. If this place is as much of a paradise as the two raider are making it out to be then there is no chance Nora will be able to assault the place from the front, however maybe there is another way in. As much as she doesn't want to remember about her time as a whore, she does still remember everything the raiders taught her about sex work, maybe, just maybe she can go in "undercover" as a "Porn actress" and once she is inside see can find someone, anyone, perhaps even another "Gristle" a person she can work with to bring the raiders down from the inside. There must be other groups who could help, Nora has heard from multiple raiders about some group calling them selves "A Brotherhood" or something and that they attack raiders on contact, maybe she can find them for help.

 

 This will be a dangerous undertaking as Nora worries about falling under the influences of the raiders again, "NO!" she thinks to herself, she is strong enough to resist these raiders just as she did the last, Nora wont let herself become another plaything again, she will destroy this group as well and once it is finished and all the slaves have been freed she can finally begin her search for her baby, for Shaun! (Now Nora has a reason to get to Nuka world and do porn as a means of undercover secretly scoping out the place, its not the best idea she had, but the constant mental abuse and Jet use has damaged her thinking and reasoning abilities.) 

 

[KellyStrawberry]

i am constantly getting shocked by the collar for no reason and cant do the first quest because i keep falling down, what to do?

[JB.]

4 minutes ago, KellyStrawberry said:

i am constantly getting shocked by the collar for no reason and cant do the first quest because i keep falling down, what to do?

 

 

• Update Real Handcuffs.
• Check your load order. Slavers should have higher priority than Real Handcuffs and any of the patches you use that are related to Real Handcuffs.

[Spaceguest991]

@JB. Damn, you work fast. Feel like I only looked away for a day or so and you go and add some new feature or quest line or something.

[JB.]

21 minutes ago, Spaceguest991 said:

@JB. Damn, you work fast. Feel like I only looked away for a day or so and you go and add some new feature or quest line or something.

I didn't expect to release so many updates either. But people were sharing ideas and it was inspiring. 

 

But doing real quests (Simone's motorbike, Gene and his dogs, the boyfriend, whoring with Ravenna) does take time and I've noted them down to do them later. Adding dialogs and functionalities isn't that difficult.

[Benjou1]

I remember a dialogue in Diamond City where you were ask about your age, is that how the mod decide if Nora is an older women ?

(just to try out the new dialogues additions, might restart a new CS playthrough )

[KellyStrawberry]

i got the latest version of handcuffs and also did the load order but i still keep getting shocked

[JB.]

10 minutes ago, Benjou1 said:

I remember a dialogue in Diamond City where you were ask about your age, is that how the mod decide if Nora is an older women ?

(just to try out the new dialogues additions, might restart a new CS playthrough )

 

Yes, but you can edit it at any time in the MCM. I do it constantly to make sure I don't mess things up.

 

 

[JB.]

13 minutes ago, KellyStrawberry said:

i got the latest version of handcuffs and also did the load order but i still keep getting shocked

Can you share your load order? It's a text file that you obtain from your mod manager. You can Google how to get it. That will give me a better understanding. 

 

 

Upload it to the forum. 

 

[KellyStrawberry]

loadorder.txt

[JB.]

9 minutes ago, KellyStrawberry said:

loadorder.txt 4.19 kB · 0 downloads

 

 

problemsofsurvivor.esp - Not compatible
AAF_Violate.esp - It's not necessary, you can install it when you finish my mod.

 

 

I don't have these two mods, but I haven't needed them. They're probably editing keywords or slots. It's best to disable them, I think these are the culprit: 

• RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp 
• RealHandcuffs_DD_Compatibility.esp 

 

You can uninstall "No Bald Slaves" if you are playing the test version (the one in the Testing folder).

 

Everything else is pretty good.

 

If none of this works, then go to the MCM, cheat section, and set the "Restrictions" option to 1.

Edited March 15 by JB.

[Evelynith]

@KellyStrawberry I took a quick at the loadorder you posted and I believe you are missing a patch.

 

Try installing that file and see if that fixes it. *You can grab the file from the Kziitd downloads.

 

Also just a heads up, not related to your current problem, but the Invictusblade version of family planing redux is very buggy after the first pregnancy (which is a shame as I also wanted to use all the features from his mod but could never get it to work properly) 

Edited March 15 by Evelynith

[virland]

10 minutes ago, KellyStrawberry said:

loadorder.txt 4.19 kB · 1 download

Well, it may be related to last version of red seat slavery mod. I had similar problem with it.

[noctred]

Question for people who use Slavers with Gender Ratios - have you actually had success with eliminating female raiders in and around Corvega?

 

I've been struggling with this for as long as I can remember playing Slavers. OG, NG, large load order, minimal load order, with or without mods that modify NPC leveled lists; doesn't matter. Other locations seem to be predominantly populated by males as expected, but Corvega always seems to have a large number of female raiders no matter what I try. Even with the new pole/dildo areas inside Corvega, it's usually just chicks sitting on the couches, which makes the post-dance scenes kind of a letdown lol.

 

Anyways just curious if anybody else has struggled with this and, if so, how you ended up solving it.

[KellyStrawberry]

25 minutes ago, virland said:

Well, it may be related to last version of red seat slavery mod. I had similar problem with it.

thank you that fixed it! guess red seat is now incompatible with this mod
 

28 minutes ago, Evelynith said:

@KellyStrawberry I took a quick at the loadorder you posted and I believe you are missing a patch.

 

Try installing that file and see if that fixes it.

that didnt fix it but still thx for pointing this out!
 

29 minutes ago, JB. said:

 

 

problemsofsurvivor.esp - Not compatible
AAF_Violate.esp - It's not necessary, you can install it when you finish my mod.

 

 

I don't have these two mods, but I haven't needed them. They're probably editing keywords or slots. It's best to disable them, I think these are the culprit: 

• RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp 
• RealHandcuffs_DD_Compatibility.esp 

 

You can uninstall "No Bald Slaves" if you are playing the test version (the one in the Testing folder).

 

Everything else is pretty good.

 

If none of this works, then go to the MCM, cheat section, and set the "Restrictions" option to 1.

what exactly is the incompatibility with problemsofsurvivor?

[KellyStrawberry]

also now i have another problem, when i wear the handcuffs, it will remove my clothes, how to fix?

[KellyStrawberry]

31 minutes ago, Evelynith said:

@KellyStrawberry I took a quick at the loadorder you posted and I believe you are missing a patch.

 

Try installing that file and see if that fixes it. *You can grab the file from the Kziitd downloads.

 

Also just a heads up, not related to your current problem, but the Invictusblade version of family planing redux is very buggy after the first pregnancy (which is a shame as I also wanted to use all the features from his mod but could never get it to work properly) 

i am not using the redux version, the full one works much better

[JB.]

6 minutes ago, KellyStrawberry said:

also now i have another problem, when i wear the handcuffs, it will remove my clothes, how to fix?

You clearly have a mod that's modifying the handcuffs and collars. Their slots or keywords. You'll need to look into them and uninstall them.

[_Nomad_]

8 hours ago, woodrealmelf said:

Ах нет, я создал новую игру, проверяя, что может быть причиной проблемы, и кто-то посоветовал удалить некоторые моды, так как они перегружают мою игру. 

I started translating for myself yesterday, tried it out, and everything works fine. I also have Commonwealth Captives and Indecent Captivity installed. So far, so good.

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