SexLab Defeat

[shiagwen]

If anybody continues to work on this mod, i have three Major Points :

1. heal the raper

2. steal some Money, 50-250, which is lost

3. enable to start a rape without defeat, non-hostiles

thanks

[Airianna]

4 hours ago, shiagwen said:

If anybody continues to work on this mod, i have three Major Points :

1. heal the raper

2. steal some Money, 50-250, which is lost

3. enable to start a rape without defeat, non-hostiles

thanks

1) Use Sexlab Util1 - I use it to heal the player, give anyone who orgasms a chance at getting 10 gold every orgasm, and give player a small boost to regen for an hour and skills gain for a day...

2) There is a robbing setting in Post Rape, where they can steel gold and/or items. - Quest to get stuff back, if it takes longer than allotted time, it's gone for good. Set the timer to like 3 hours, and there is a good chance, you won't ever see it again.

3) Agressive Settings, sneak up behind non-hostile and hit the action key to get the option to rape them. Sleepers, get the "sleeping" in their menu that can lead to raping them. 

edit: When it works right, it is like this.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UZMJN_oKeg Your settings can change the reaction for rape... *Could use some tweaks so if the target's SL gender preference is not your gender, then cause for alarms...* And before you say it, I recorded that 3 years ago, totally different version of Defeat, but still works the same in the current version.

[Airianna]

7 hours ago, Akane5689 said:

YOOOO just downloaded this mod the rape scenes are so bad and clunky I LOVE IT however i got raped by 3 orcs and after it was over i could not move. i tried pressing every key but notheing happened

Sounds like an overloaded papyrus.

Only Solution is to open MCM and use Defeat's Clean up under General tab. If that doesn't work, you will have to pull some heavy scripted mods, and start a new game.

[shiagwen]

7 hours ago, Airianna said:

1) Use Sexlab Util1 - I use it to heal the player, give anyone who orgasms a chance at getting 10 gold every orgasm, and give player a small boost to regen for an hour and skills gain for a day...

2) There is a robbing setting in Post Rape, where they can steel gold and/or items. - Quest to get stuff back, if it takes longer than allotted time, it's gone for good. Set the timer to like 3 hours, and there is a good chance, you won't ever see it again.

3) Agressive Settings, sneak up behind non-hostile and hit the action key to get the option to rape them. Sleepers, get the "sleeping" in their menu that can lead to raping them. 

edit: When it works right, it is like this.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UZMJN_oKeg Your settings can change the reaction for rape... *Could use some tweaks so if the target's SL gender preference is not your gender, then cause for alarms...* And before you say it, I recorded that 3 years ago, totally different version of Defeat, but still works the same in the current version.

1. Util is a very fragile mod with side effects, i dont use such a mod

2. i said 50-250 g, not all Gold above a max.500g

3. never tested this

i have forgotten 4. enlarge the range for the enemies who join the rape. actually it is too short, should be the whole dungeon cell.

[Airianna]

14 hours ago, shiagwen said:

1. Util is a very fragile mod with side effects, i dont use such a mod

2. i said 50-250 g, not all Gold above a max.500g

3. never tested this

i have forgotten 4. enlarge the range for the enemies who join the rape. actually it is too short, should be the whole dungeon cell.

1) Util becomes fragile when trying to set up too many functions for it. If you maintain 2 for each segment or less, it maintains rigidity (I created the regen boost for magicka, Stamina, health +30% to all 3). But I see your point.

 

2) Yeah, 50-250... When you have over 250, a thief would take all on you. I use Storage Helpers, and can transfer my extra money and items into a container in my inventory. Then store them at one of my many houses when I get home. If the container is taken, I still have ways to get my stuff out of the containers. Perhaps someone can create an Addon like that, to show up as another option for Post Assault for the set min/max ammounts.

 

3) Should play with it, I played with it a few times, but I prefer to be on the receiving end. Sneak up behind, hit the action key, stand up activate key, choose "knocked down" - "rape"... Weapons drawn and not drawn have different effects, one scares them, the other is go straight for the knockdown.

 

4) Some of the cells are pretty large. But, what might help, is Player Victim Settings... Insatiable Aggressors, they will have another go, had 3 rape me, 2 times for 1, the other 2 raped me 3 times. Even tho I had it set to 2 times as the max. So it can extend the time of being forced considerably. Also, Sexlab Scene settings, rape = 30, 45, 45, 15 for 145 seconds each time, if the male cums + SLSO (Sexlan Separate Orgasms) with male required to cum, by the last go, he already got off recently, so it takes ages of swapping between scene segment 2 and 3. (Roughly 10 minutes)

[shiagwen]

10 hours ago, Airianna said:

1) Util becomes fragile when trying to set up too many functions for it. If you maintain 2 for each segment or less, it maintains rigidity (I created the regen boost for magicka, Stamina, health +30% to all 3). But I see your point.

 

2) Yeah, 50-250... When you have over 250, a thief would take all on you. I use Storage Helpers, and can transfer my extra money and items into a container in my inventory. Then store them at one of my many houses when I get home. If the container is taken, I still have ways to get my stuff out of the containers. Perhaps someone can create an Addon like that, to show up as another option for Post Assault for the set min/max ammounts.

 

3) Should play with it, I played with it a few times, but I prefer to be on the receiving end. Sneak up behind, hit the action key, stand up activate key, choose "knocked down" - "rape"... Weapons drawn and not drawn have different effects, one scares them, the other is go straight for the knockdown.

 

4) Some of the cells are pretty large. But, what might help, is Player Victim Settings... Insatiable Aggressors, they will have another go, had 3 rape me, 2 times for 1, the other 2 raped me 3 times. Even tho I had it set to 2 times as the max. So it can extend the time of being forced considerably. Also, Sexlab Scene settings, rape = 30, 45, 45, 15 for 145 seconds each time, if the male cums + SLSO (Sexlan Separate Orgasms) with male required to cum, by the last go, he already got off recently, so it takes ages of swapping between scene segment 2 and 3. (Roughly 10 minutes)

1) i give util a try.  however, it should not be difficult to do in defeat, the defeatfixed patch did this already ( that one was bugged in other matters)

2) good you understood what i mean. it is just negative prostitution

3) if i start a rape this way Opponent becomes hostile. what i want is simply that the pc, and the follower, will get mass raped. Earlier Versions of random sex did that excellent, but not the newer ones. mass match maker turns the npcs to hostile, i tried this enough, so i dont see any non-hostile rape mod. should be easy to do with defeat

4) i already have the aggressors to 0 and that is the best i can do actually. but still it happens that patrol from behind attack into the rape,  especially after surrender. the radius must be enlarged, really.

[Airianna]

18 hours ago, shiagwen said:

1) i give util a try.  however, it should not be difficult to do in defeat, the defeatfixed patch did this already ( that one was bugged in other matters)

2) good you understood what i mean. it is just negative prostitution

3) if i start a rape this way Opponent becomes hostile. what i want is simply that the pc, and the follower, will get mass raped. Earlier Versions of random sex did that excellent, but not the newer ones. mass match maker turns the npcs to hostile, i tried this enough, so i dont see any non-hostile rape mod. should be easy to do with defeat

4) i already have the aggressors to 0 and that is the best i can do actually. but still it happens that patrol from behind attack into the rape,  especially after surrender. the radius must be enlarged, really.

1) For Giving gold, and regen all I created these.

1a) zGiveGold.ini

1b) Regen20.ini Set to be usable at the after sex

 

3) It's due to your setting...Be sure to disable Animosity, highlighted in the first snapshot... As for matchmaker, I never used it.

 

4) Well, just to be sure, double check your settings against mine from post: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/19941-sexlab-defeat/?do=findComment&comment=2121234

 Or you could consider getting one of the onlooker mods, that draws a crowd to the player, Enemies should join in.

[Airianna]

I did make a minor, no script, patch for Defeat.

Changes a few minor things that reduce recovery rates, made the player slower... made them a little positive, and for some reason, the effects aren't showing up under magic, but it's noticeable to me.

Also, removed the "Oh god, it's that time of the month" because I use Beeing Female, and I am either pregnant already, or it's the wrong time of the "month"...

 

Thought I would share it  Defeat_LikesItRough.esp Only 2kb, so YES, Defeat is still required...

[shiagwen]

which onlocker mods do you have in mind ?

how does the givigoldini work ? what must i do with this file ?

[Airianna]

2 hours ago, shiagwen said:

which onlocker mods do you have in mind ?

how does the givigoldini work ? what must i do with this file ?

 

I don't have any in mind. I don't need them, I get agitated with how often I get knocked unconscious to start with at times. I have been very unlucky several times, due to getting knocked down, or knocked unconscious, to the point, that during 1 battle, me against 3, I was raped 23 times total. it seemed like I was never going to kill them, we swing, I hit, they hit, I do some damage, they knock me out or down. I can laugh about it now, but at the time, I was swearing at them after the 3rd time, no I never changed the settings either.

 

both of those files are for Util1, gets dropped into the  "Data\INI\SexlabUtil1.esp\"  folder, Then in game, MCM you can set SexLab Util Orgasm to "Give Gold", I personally set it to 10% to 15% chance to give 10 gold, But since you can go from 0 to 100% chance, the choice is really yours. Also, you can set it to take gold if you read the mod's description and the info provided on how to make your own ini files for it.

[shiagwen]

1 hour ago, Airianna said:

 

I don't have any in mind. I don't need them, I get agitated with how often I get knocked unconscious to start with at times. I have been very unlucky several times, due to getting knocked down, or knocked unconscious, to the point, that during 1 battle, me against 3, I was raped 23 times total. it seemed like I was never going to kill them, we swing, I hit, they hit, I do some damage, they knock me out or down. I can laugh about it now, but at the time, I was swearing at them after the 3rd time, no I never changed the settings either.

 

both of those files are for Util1, gets dropped into the  "Data\INI\SexlabUtil1.esp\"  folder, Then in game, MCM you can set SexLab Util Orgasm to "Give Gold", I personally set it to 10% to 15% chance to give 10 gold, But since you can go from 0 to 100% chance, the choice is really yours. Also, you can set it to take gold if you read the mod's description and the info provided on how to make your own ini files for it.

you mean the pickpocket effect ? i dont see any givegold effect. how to determine the amount of Gold ?

 

edit : i renamed it to givegold without the z , no effect too.

[Nazzzgul666]

On 8.2.2018 at 8:30 PM, Goubo said:

Hello there.

 

 

Sad to hear that, but thanks a lot for all the effort you've put into this and giving us such a great mod. Not that i'd be able to, but something someone hopefully would like to know...

Would you give permission to upgrade/modify the mod, especially converting it to special edition? Now that sexlab is out for that, i actually might play SE at some point, but not without my Defeat.

 

All best wishes for your RL, and i can totally understand if you won't give us an update... in my case it's been a couple of years that i watched old code (and even without any comments -.-) which still worked fine, but after one week i still couldn't figure out why that worked at all.^^

[VirazolKaine]

Hello, just discovered this mod and have no idea if it's still active.  Does this work with the special edition?

[NanakoMagojiro]

i'm testing out this mod with the bleedout setting. I notice one annoying problem - the constant screen-flashing-red and heartbeat sound from being at low health, is kind of annoying.

 

Is there any way to disable that during scenes, or just completely?

[Airianna]

12 hours ago, shiagwen said:

you mean the pickpocket effect ? i dont see any givegold effect. how to determine the amount of Gold ?

 

edit : i renamed it to givegold without the z , no effect too.

There is no message that it's received. It's a "silent" event.

The files

Spoiler

[Main]
Name=Gold +10
Page=0
Type=cmd
Id=262
Cmd=item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f
CmdTick=item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f

Renaming the file, if placed in the correct folder won't change anything, In game it's called Gold +10, as the spoiler shows.

Cmd is the initial giving of single gold coins, ten times, and CmdTick is if you have it set up to give more than once (every 3 seconds).Before sex, check how much gold you have, after orgasm, check to see if you got any gold, at 100% on the slider, it's guaranteed to get 10 gold each time.

[Airianna]

11 hours ago, NanakoMagojiro said:

i'm testing out this mod with the bleedout setting. I notice one annoying problem - the constant screen-flashing-red and heartbeat sound from being at low health, is kind of annoying.

 

Is there any way to disable that during scenes, or just completely?

Not directly, there are mods that can be used to heal the player during sex. One of which is Sexlab Util1 here on LL. Also, if you have the time, you could hop into your inventory before the scene starts and swallow something to heal up a bit.

[Airianna]

12 hours ago, VirazolKaine said:

Hello, just discovered this mod and have no idea if it's still active.  Does this work with the special edition?

This Defeat, nope, but if you scroll back a few pages, someone did post a link to the SE version they made. It's bugged, but functional.

[shiagwen]

5 hours ago, Airianna said:

There is no message that it's received. It's a "silent" event.

The files

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[Main]
Name=Gold +10
Page=0
Type=cmd
Id=262
Cmd=item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f
CmdTick=item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f+item:skyrim.esm:000000f

Renaming the file, if placed in the correct folder won't change anything, In game it's called Gold +10, as the spoiler shows.

Cmd is the initial giving of single gold coins, ten times, and CmdTick is if you have it set up to give more than once (every 3 seconds).Before sex, check how much gold you have, after orgasm, check to see if you got any gold, at 100% on the slider, it's guaranteed to get 10 gold each time.

Hmmm, if i start  a new game, Gold +10 appears at the end of the list in orgasm effect. this does not happen in a running game, which is just in riverwood.

 

what happens when i change +10 to +50 ?  it is just a Name and means nothing,right ? so what must be changed is weather repeating the single coin 50 times, which barely can take place in every 3 seconds, thats 50 in 2.5 minutes. or raise the single Gold coin to a higher number like 5. is that possible and whjere tp place the 5 in the cmd ?

 

i do not want to get Gold with my character, i want to pay Gold to the attacker, which should be lost, not in the attackers inventory.so it can be a -f ?

 

i dont understand how the mod works. if is starts at orgasm and takes 1 Gold per 3 seconds, there are no 3 seconds until the sexscene Ends, but the character gets the 10 Gold.

 

and thanks for the help

[Airianna]

5 hours ago, shiagwen said:

Hmmm, if i start  a new game, Gold +10 appears at the end of the list in orgasm effect. this does not happen in a running game, which is just in riverwood.

 

what happens when i change +10 to +50 ?  it is just a Name and means nothing,right ? so what must be changed is weather repeating the single coin 50 times, which barely can take place in every 3 seconds, thats 50 in 2.5 minutes. or raise the single Gold coin to a higher number like 5. is that possible and whjere tp place the 5 in the cmd ?

 

i do not want to get Gold with my character, i want to pay Gold to the attacker, which should be lost, not in the attackers inventory.so it can be a -f ?

 

i dont understand how the mod works. if is starts at orgasm and takes 1 Gold per 3 seconds, there are no 3 seconds until the sexscene Ends, but the character gets the 10 Gold.

 

and thanks for the help

In an existing game, go to Util1 MCM, RELOAD list. it will show up.

 

If you change +10 to +50, will still be 10... You have to take that CMD line, and CMDTick line, and enlarge it to match, as each segment "item:skyrim.esm:000000f" is 1 gold, and is basically entering into console "Player.AddItem 000000f 1". Unless you want to use another item, such as a small sack of gold, that is usually leveled and gives a random amount of gold for the level... But you would have to figure out what code to use from the base game.

 

To remove an item, instead of of item: it becomes remitem: So you would create a new ini, making sure your id for it is different than any of the others, but higher than what I put in by a few so it won't conflict. Either create a mod that has a sack of random gold, or go the route I took, but with the other call.

 

The player doesn't take the gold from anyone, even the partner has a chance to gain gold if you set it up to include them. In my game, it's like an old perverted wizard says,"Orgasm and I might reward any of you". If you set it to default or do only once, instant, then it won't get a second tick, ever. But, if you set it to 100%, at start of sex, with duration till end of sex, then every 3 seconds you gain... I set up sex start, 100% chance, Heal +100, type player, duration till end of sex, that will health for the player only while player is in a sex scene.

[NanakoMagojiro]

I love this mod, but it's so buggy.  Are there any patches for it? Any currently maintained alternatives?

I've seen a couple errors from it in the papyrus log, i have a suspicion it might be at least partly responsible for my frequent crashing. But i'm really annoyed at the bugs it has within itself.

 

Like if someone knocks you down, starts raping, and then gets interrupted during sex, they kill you after dealing with the interrupter.

And the bleedout thing doesnt work reliably, sometimes enemies attack multiple times in a row and the second hit kills you. Similar problem with multiple enemies.

I use the bleedout feature pretty exclusively since im playing a weak mage in requiem and most things 1-hit-ko me

 

I notice theres something in the post assault menu about death alternative. Is that compatibility for another mod? Can i use them both together to prevent dying?

[Airianna]

2 hours ago, NanakoMagojiro said:

I love this mod, but it's so buggy.  Are there any patches for it? Any currently maintained alternatives?

I've seen a couple errors from it in the papyrus log, i have a suspicion it might be at least partly responsible for my frequent crashing. But i'm really annoyed at the bugs it has within itself.

 

Like if someone knocks you down, starts raping, and then gets interrupted during sex, they kill you after dealing with the interrupter.

And the bleedout thing doesnt work reliably, sometimes enemies attack multiple times in a row and the second hit kills you. Similar problem with multiple enemies.

I use the bleedout feature pretty exclusively since im playing a weak mage in requiem and most things 1-hit-ko me

 

I notice theres something in the post assault menu about death alternative. Is that compatibility for another mod? Can i use them both together to prevent dying?

I would personally recommend SM Essential Player from the Nexus, with a no kill move mod to prevent the decapitated player bug. You die, but can either go down to 1 knee, or become a temporary ghost, and disable Defeat's bleedout function. It has an MCM to play with, and yes, you do get to come back to life after a short time out.

Death Alternative is hell to get set up, and I have never actually played with it myself to be able to assist in that regard.

 

The papyrus log is inaccurate to say the least. It has never truly helped me with finding what crashes Skyrim. What helps is to reduce the loaded mods, Either computer limitations or the papyrus engine it's self is hitting a wall, and that's when errors start to occur, even if there is no reason for them. *And even Goubo said that the Skyrim CK is full of holes, and problems, that get carried over into the game it's self.*

[Church the Cat]

On 1/23/2018 at 8:13 AM, hey_danielx said:

In case anyone's interested, Sexlab Framework v 1.63 beta is out (for Skyrim SE) . Many people (including myself) have tested Defeat (with proper conversion) and so far seems to be working. 

Could you share the converted plugin for Defeat?

[EmertX]

7 hours ago, Mancubus said:

Could you share the converted plugin for Defeat?

Just one page back someone posted a conversion. Did you try that one?

[EmertX]

9 hours ago, Airianna said:

I would personally recommend SM Essential Player from the Nexus, with a no kill move mod to prevent the decapitated player bug. You die, but can either go down to 1 knee, or become a temporary ghost, and disable Defeat's bleedout function. It has an MCM to play with, and yes, you do get to come back to life after a short time out.

Death Alternative is hell to get set up, and I have never actually played with it myself to be able to assist in that regard.

 

The papyrus log is inaccurate to say the least. It has never truly helped me with finding what crashes Skyrim. What helps is to reduce the loaded mods, Either computer limitations or the papyrus engine it's self is hitting a wall, and that's when errors start to occur, even if there is no reason for them. *And even Goubo said that the Skyrim CK is full of holes, and problems, that get carried over into the game it's self.*

I second this. The only reason to install Death Alternative is if you want to be sent to "different scenarios" in case you bleedout or die, however the mechanics of that mod can lead to strange bugs that will force you to reload anyway.

 

If you want to play a game of "after defeat scenarios", I'd suggest to install the mod that Airianna mentioned + defeat + simple slavery + sanguines debauchery.

 

In this setup, if your hp drops to 0, you will be assaulted. Afterwards you'll be sent to a slavery auction house (simple slavery) and then you'll be "sold" to a slaver from Sanguines debauchery

[Church the Cat]

2 hours ago, hey_danielx said:

Just one page back someone posted a conversion. Did you try that one?

I will now, thanks.