SexLab Defeat

[Goubo]

I don't think I ever changed my default mcm key either but anyhow the key is displayed at the bottom left of the screen.

[Corsayr]

I don't think I ever changed my default mcm key either but anyhow the key is displayed at the bottom left of the screen.

 

 

On mine the default is listed as Left shift. Holding that while clicking ALWAYs 100% of the time causes a CTD.

[Puncher85]

i just tried to download this 4 times and it downloads microsoft solitaire instead of the ll defeat... wtf??

[PervyPotter]

i just tried to download this 4 times and it downloads microsoft solitaire instead of the ll defeat... wtf??

 

Use a different browser to download, such as FireFox for example,  that problem usually only occurs if you try to download using the Microsoft one.

[AnubiSs2167]

hey Goubo, a question has been brought up recently about defeat in my topic. Is defeat capable of triggering 3 some rape animation but with both agressors of diffrent race? For example chaurus + falmer on female.

[Tefajo]

Goubo, would it be possible to make it so the mod actually equips some of the ZaZ framework items when you tie / gag your prisoner? Thing is that when they are gagged is like nothing is actually equiped, so it cant interact with gag sound

 

[Sneaksmile]

I LOVE your Mod! really! a lot of options and dirty things! Are you going to add more options? I would love that the characters that you force to undress stay like that forever! covering their dirty parts, that would be very realistic!

 

Any hope that the option key will work without holding it down? But instead with one-touch. It does not work on Xbox controller ...         

 

I made a video of my Avatar and using your Mod    I love this Mod!!!

 

 

 

[DerPeter]

I don't know if this falls into your jurisdiction, but I just had the Simple Slavery post-assault option trigger after sex with guards while being handled by the Prison Overhaul mod (and it's patch, 8r), which led POP to believe that I escaped. I've reported this behavior to the POP patch dev as well, but maybe you'd like to add some checks as well, disabling certain options in some situations.

[SexDwarf2250]

 I would love that the characters that you force to undress stay like that forever! covering their dirty parts, that would be very realistic!

 

It sounds like you need to get "Pet Collar" mod. It keeps all my sluts nude, in line, and available for public fucking needs.

[Sneaksmile]

 

 I would love that the characters that you force to undress stay like that forever! covering their dirty parts, that would be very realistic!

 

It sounds like you need to get "Pet Collar" mod. It keeps all my sluts nude, in line, and available for public fucking needs.

 

 

Hmmm ... I think that's not what I'm looking for. I have installed Paradise Halls and works similarly to this Mod. I am looking for something like the Mod in the link ... but that could work in general for all the characters, not only in the main character.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/files/file/1722-get-stripped-again/

[pornaddict9001]

Is there a way to increase the time of enemies not attacking my character after being done with her? Ten seconds just isn't enough for me to run away from them 

[SexDwarf2250]

Is there a way to increase the time of enemies not attacking my character after being done with her? Ten seconds just isn't enough for me to run away from them 

 

If there isn't an option for that in Defeat, you could whip up something in SexLabUtil using an "on sex end" trigger with condition for "victim only." It has a lot of buffs and debuffs to play around with built-in, such as pacification (which would apply to the rapist in particular) or an enchantment I think where people hitting the target are pacified. (Though designed more to solve the "people get murdered during combat sex," it might help.) You can also add many custom effects, for example you could make rape victims turn invisible for a minute or hour after sex is done.

 

If you check the end of that thread, I posted some custom effects I use. One of them gives you the redguard special power for one minute: adrenaline rush, 10x faster stamina regen. If you used that, you could sprint like crazy for a minute after a rape. (Minus the time you're on the ground I guess.) Then there's a built in stamina regen boost of +20 or +30% which you can set to an hour or more I think.

[boo]

Couple feature requests:

 

Filter out multiple scenarios for sexual assault where there are no aggressive animations with that number of actors. Right now scene aggressiveness is not respected at all, even with the "aggressive" tag specified. Looking at the logs it seems only GetByType is called with Aggressive set to false.

 

Allow additional tag-based filtering for m-m assaults.

[JimmyCow]

Can someone explain what the "minimum hp threshold" means for the Threshold knockdown? I get how HP threshold works, but not "min" threshold.

 

 

The thing about this is i'm a mage/light armor char, I play on master, and I constantly get oneshot by dungeon bosses, or even just strong enemies. So that's why I want to just use the simple essential option. I don't use other mods that Defeat says it can conflict with, so I'm ok.

 

Otherwise I might use threshold, but the issue with that is I'm already incredibly weak. Unless i'm underleveled, I need every bit of health I have. Setting it at 20% basically means the nearest grocery cart downs me.

[cleavagesweat]

female pc - when defeated and if submitted and dialogue of consensual sex comes up and you choose to comply e.g. reply with "yes i want it" type reply, the following sex animation goes all sorts of screwy after completion. the body goes flying all over, contorts, levitates... kind of like an exorcism gone wrong...

 

any ideas or similar experiences?

[DerPeter]

I don't know if this falls into your jurisdiction, but I just had the Simple Slavery post-assault option trigger after sex with guards while being handled by the Prison Overhaul mod (and it's patch, 8r), which led POP to believe that I escaped. I've reported this behavior to the POP patch dev as well, but maybe you'd like to add some checks as well, disabling certain options in some situations.

 

POP Patch dev says it's up to this mod to fix the issue. Defeat has to ignore hooks while imprisoned.

[JimmyCow]

How does HP min threshold work?

 

I'm really confused by the language. Would appreciate an explanation since I'm trying to use the feature that makes you essential, but I die anyways with that one on.

[Airianna]

How does HP min threshold work?

 

I'm really confused by the language. Would appreciate an explanation since I'm trying to use the feature that makes you essential, but I die anyways with that one on.

 

at or bellow that % of health, can trigger the assault, according to what % chance you have it set at. 100% chance = every hit bellow that health percent, causes a sex scene. 50% chance = every hit has to flip a coin to initiate the scene... So on and so forth. It's basically the same thing for exhaustion but uses stamina instead.

 

After you reach level 10, default health setting is good for survival. At about level 20, can start to lower it, depending on combat skills.

 

I don't know if this falls into your jurisdiction, but I just had the Simple Slavery post-assault option trigger after sex with guards while being handled by the Prison Overhaul mod (and it's patch, 8r), which led POP to believe that I escaped. I've reported this behavior to the POP patch dev as well, but maybe you'd like to add some checks as well, disabling certain options in some situations.

 

POP Patch dev says it's up to this mod to fix the issue. Defeat has to ignore hooks while imprisoned.

 

 

Be sure to have it set so Enemy Factions, can only send you to the Auction house, in the SS setting for Defeat. Or you will have friends and allies sending you off for slavery. And that will also prevent situations like the guards trying to mail you off as well.

hey Goubo, a question has been brought up recently about defeat in my topic. Is defeat capable of triggering 3 some rape animation but with both agressors of diffrent race? For example chaurus + falmer on female.

 

Creature Framework has been trying to impliment 3 ways MFC. and if the animation is registered, then defeat will play them... I have encountered the MFC with a spider, the C was supposed to be a dog's position, so the spider only stands there. And the M was a Drauger, who didn't look quite right in that position. But was funny to watch, what I could see through that spider...

[Airianna]

i just tried to download this 4 times and it downloads microsoft solitaire instead of the ll defeat... wtf??

 

The Solitaire is an old program, if you never use it, you can remove it from your computer, and install 7zip and be sure these downloads are associated with 7zip only. That will get rid of the problem you are currently experiencing.

 

If you wish to keep Solitaire for some reason, and enjoy it from time to time, you can right click the downloaded file, and choose "open with" and in the next pop up, tick Always use this program to open this file type, and browse to your 7zip program.

 

On my system, I have to right click and open archive on every zip/rar file if I haven't opened the 7zip program yet.

 

for a mac, right click = cmd+click

[JimmyCow]

 

How does HP min threshold work?

 

I'm really confused by the language. Would appreciate an explanation since I'm trying to use the feature that makes you essential, but I die anyways with that one on.

 

at or bellow that % of health, can trigger the assault, according to what % chance you have it set at. 100% chance = every hit bellow that health percent, causes a sex scene. 50% chance = every hit has to flip a coin to initiate the scene... So on and so forth. It's basically the same thing for exhaustion but uses stamina instead.

 

After you reach level 10, default health setting is good for survival. At about level 20, can start to lower it, depending on combat skills.

 

Thanks, but I just didn't understand "min threshold"

 

Minimum threshold is from 0 to the bounds of your wound threshold.

 

The wording is really confusing. Minimum HP allowed for being knocked down when hit.

So for instance, does this mean it limits your HP to 5% after being knocked down?

Or does this mean you can't have less than this to be knocked down?

 

I'm not even sure what it means in any case. What difference does it make as long as you're knocked down?

[JimmyCow]

Oh I see.. has OP patched defeat up to what that post describes? Seems pretty important.

 

Also, so I understand that I basically want my min HP threshold to be above 0 then.

[PsykoticPyro]

Just to check in, has anyone ever heard of an issue where a female PC will use Defeat to act as an aggressor on an npc (using the activation key), yet the female PC will end up with a bondage/devious device or sent off for slavery after doing the deed? I doubt Defeat is causing the issue, but I'm curious if anyone has any insight. I'd bet it's some other mod registering the female PC as a victim when it's not supposed to.

 

Edit: It definitely appears something is overriding the way the 'player as aggressor' is supposed to work. I've seen devious devices equipped, exhaustion, and possibility of enslavement as outcomes. Any help would be appreciated.

[JimmyCow]

Just to check in, has anyone ever heard of an issue where a female PC will use Defeat to act as an aggressor on an npc (using the activation key), yet the female PC will end up with a bondage/devious device or sent off for slavery after doing the deed? I doubt Defeat is causing the issue, but I'm curious if anyone has any insight. I'd bet it's some other mod registering the female PC as a victim when it's not supposed to.

 

Edit: It definitely appears something is overriding the way the 'player as aggressor' is supposed to work. I've seen devious devices equipped, exhaustion, and possibility of enslavement as outcomes. Any help would be appreciated.

That's indeed very odd.

 

What SL mods are you running?

[PsykoticPyro]

 

Just to check in, has anyone ever heard of an issue where a female PC will use Defeat to act as an aggressor on an npc (using the activation key), yet the female PC will end up with a bondage/devious device or sent off for slavery after doing the deed? I doubt Defeat is causing the issue, but I'm curious if anyone has any insight. I'd bet it's some other mod registering the female PC as a victim when it's not supposed to.

 

Edit: It definitely appears something is overriding the way the 'player as aggressor' is supposed to work. I've seen devious devices equipped, exhaustion, and possibility of enslavement as outcomes. Any help would be appreciated.

That's indeed very odd.

 

What SL mods are you running?

 

 

I guess it would help to give the load order and whatnot 

Here is the list of plugins, that was sorted by LOOT.

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Falskaar.esm

ApachiiHair.esm

ApachiiHairFemales.esm

hdtHighHeel.esm

Night Eye Overhaul.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

RaceCompatibility.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

KameleonArmor.esm

Havok Breast Physic.esm

SexLab.esm

ZaZAnimationPack.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

Devious Devices - Assets.esm

Devious Devices - Integration.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

daymoyl.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

CreatureFramework.esm

Devious Devices - Expansion.esm

PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm

dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm

Heels Sound.esm

BeeingFemale.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

UIExtensions.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

Daedric Extra Armor.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp

Gatti14Yumiko.esp

Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp

NewVampChainsCuirass.esp

Northgirl.esp

Schwertleite Set.esp

Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp

Strap.esp

Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp

zzEstrus.esp

RLO - Interiors.esp

zzEstrusMimic.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

better_torches_brighter_torchlight.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

RLO - Exteriors.esp

Havok Breast Physic.esp

Shout Like a Virgin.esp

SexLab_Solutions.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

BloodWitchArmor.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

ApachiiHairStyles.esp

ApachiiHairStylesELVES.esp

OBIS.esp

hydra_slavegirls.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

SexLab_DibellaCult.esp

OBISDB.esp

SOSRaceMenu.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

One With Nature - DG+DB.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp

TrueStorms.esp

TrueStorms-CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

NEO Persistent Spell.esp

Night Eye Overhaul.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

UFO - Dragonborn AddOn.esp

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp

CharacterMakingExtender.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

Purewaters.esp

FNISSexyMove.esp

FNIS.esp

Zipsuit.esp

XPMSE.esp

Cassandra Frost Witch.esp

SexyVest.esp

RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp

CharmingHighHeels.esp

Merta Assassin Armor.esp

Latex Armor.esp

FacelightPlus.esp

Sotteta Necromancer Outfit.esp

AncientDraugr.esp

RLO - Effects.esp

Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp

ScarletDawnArmor.esp

iLuvLoading.esp

Ebony Valkyrie Armor.esp

CBBE Plate.esp

DarkStandalone.esp

Daedric Chainmail v2 Standalone.esp

BlacktalonArmorV11UNP.esp

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

SOS - B3lisario Horsecock Addon.esp

SOS_Ho.esp

SLAnimLoader.esp

NibblesAnimObjects.esp

SLALAnimObj.esp

SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp

SLA Monitor Widget.esp

SexLabTools.esp

SexLab Cumshot.esp

SOS - ERF Horse Penis CBBE - Addon.esp

SOS - ERF Horse Penis CBBE - Equipable.esp

EstrusChaurus.esp

DW.esp

Angeli Devious Expansion.esp

Blush When Aroused.esp

Devious Devices - Equip.esp

SexLabDefeat.esp

mslDeviousCaptures.esp

SleepTight.esp

SexLab-Stories.esp

SL Deadly Drain.esp

SexLabSquirt.esp

SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp

SexLabMatchMaker.esp

SexLabWorkingGirl.esp

SexLab Submit.esp

SexLabStopCombat.esp

SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp

SexLabArousedAnimations.esp

NewmillerPiercings2.esp

NewmillerPiercings3.esp

MoreNastyCritters.esp

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp

SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp

BDIC.esp

BDVanillaCritters.esp

SexFinderAndMapMarker.esp

Captured Dreams.esp

Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

HentaiCreatures.esp

SexLab More Creatures.esp

Cloaks.esp

SMIM-Merged-All.esp

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp

SexLab Beastess.esp

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp

Tembtra Thief Armor.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

xazPrisonOverhaul.esp

EnhancedCharacterEdit.esp

Deviously Cursed Loot.esp

CinematicFireFX.esp

SimpleSlavery.esp <-- Potential culprit?

TrissArmorRetextured.esp

LingerieSetCBBE3_2ByNausicaa.esp

PuppetMaster.esp

Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp

Celes Nightingale Armor.esp

RLO - Illuminated Spells.esp

dcc-dm2.esp

DeviouslyHelpless.esp

SexLab_Solutions_PO_Patch.esp

sextoys-calyps-2.esp

DD - Interactions.esp

DeviousToys.esp

ImmerSlave-DeviceCut.esp

HornyWerewolves.esp

SexLabWerewolves.esp

Werewolves.esp

SLAL_K4Anims.esp

SexualizedVampireLord.esp

SWT1.2.esp

SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp

werebeast+lurker+seeker+ashspawn+frostgiant.esp

Tame Beast.esp

BDSICHC.esp

sr_FillHerUp.esp

sr_FillThemUp.esp

SofiaFollower.esp

CerwidenCompanion.esp

ScrapArmor.esp

PetCollar.esp

SexLab-Parasites.esp

SexLab_Dialogues.esp

Devious Cidhna.esp

SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp

Deviously Enslaved.esp <-- Possible culprit?

SOS - Shop.esp

daymoyl_DawnguardAddon.esp

FalmerBikini.esp

Sweet&Sexy Lingerie.esp

SexLabAnimalSex.esp

LoversComfort.esp

Davjes_SorceressArmorHHS.esp

Equipping Overhaul.esp

KameleonArmor.esp

Beastess Vampire.esp

Remodeled Armor.esp

DragonBoneBikini.esp

Raven Witch Armor.esp

SexyBikinis.esp

R18pn - lingerie Set.esp

Elewin Sunglasses.esp

Gwelda Armor Pack.esp

Lady of Death.esp

FNISspells.esp

EggFactory.esp

Emfy Cleric Robes.esp

Neo's Selene.esp

Gwelda Dawnguard Armor.esp

Riku_LivingThing.esp

Daedric Reaper Armor.esp

Mememe harness.esp

Northern Priestess - EX.esp

HDT Piercingsets.esp

Devious Deviants.esp

SexLabAnimalSexDawn.esp

SexLabAnimalSexTame.esp

Sextoys Calyps Chest.esp

Deathhound+Gargoyle.esp

Immersive Arousal.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp

SkinTight.esp

KomAnimObjects.esp

KS Hairdo's.esp

TBSC_BodySuit_CBBE.esp

Jugs.esp

LeatherBound Huntress Armor.esp

TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp

Luxury Collection.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

BAMM.esp

Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp

BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp

TrueStorms-SupremeStorms-CoT.esp

SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp

ContinueGameNoCrash.esp

Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

Alternate Start - Live A Deviant Life.esp

Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp

ImmerSlave.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

I'm suspecting that either another mod is unable to recognize the difference between Player Aggressor and Victim (potentially DeviouslyEnslaved), I missed a check box somewhere that led to this, or something else is inappropriately applying a victim tag to the PC and the other mods are registering that flag as they are supposed to.

 

Edit: Think I got simple slavery and deviously enslaved mixed up. The issue might be related to Simple Slavery and/or Devious Captures?

 

Edit2: Quick console check after the animation finished returned that CRDE was rolling a check for outcomes. Quick check shows this is in fact Deviously Enslaved. This shows a check for both enslaved and devices. This might be the culprit! Will play around with it.

 

Final Note: It appears that is was Deviously Enslaved after all. For those of you who have it enabled with Defeat, be sure to go to the Deviously Enslaved menu, go to the "Rape" section and turn both of the values to 0/0. This will prevent Deviously Enslaved from equipping bondage devices or enslaving your PC when they are the Aggressor!

 

I haven't check this solution extensively but it appears to work. Poor Ralof was raped repeatedly as I tested it out. Thanks for replying Jimmy, feel free to bounce off any other ideas you might have to me in a PM. I'll try not to clutter up this thread any more

[Toddi]

I am having issues with Defeat not working 100% with creatures.  I get knocked down and the struggle bar comes up but the creatures just wander away. I have checked all the settings that seem to be related to getting this to work in SexLab, Aroused Creatures, Creature Framework and Defeat itself, but no luck. I read other threads and re-loaded/reset all the mods as well to no effect

 

All of the following does work:

• Defeat with non-creatures
• Creature behavior and animations through Matchmaker
• As mentioned, I get knocked down and can struggle but creatures don't take any further action

 

The only thing I noticed is in the Defeat list of allowed/disallowed races menu, they are both empty of any lists. They just say 'Allow all' or 'Disallow All'. I checked 'Allow All' to be safe, but no luck.

 

Anything I should check?

 

Thanks

 

Same here.

 

By pressing K Button it says i can´t surrender to this enemy.

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