SexLab Defeat

[Sospice]

Skyrimll has decided to no longer have Death Alternative as a hard requirement for his SD+ mod. So I was thinking, it would be great if you could make some sort of change so that instead of when defeated, your mod initiates a SD+ enslavement. Personally, I always preferred Defeat to DA (it seems like a smoother, more lightweight alternative to DA, plus it has the great "DDCaptured" support), and if you did that, then instead of having to rely on Simple Slavery for enslavement (which I think only has one master available, Jaosi Lowen), you could actually be enslaved by the person who defeats you in combat.

Here's a link to a post where Skyrimll gave some information if you'd like to do that.

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24042-sd-sanguine-debauchery-enhanced-2016-09-04/page-647?do=findComment&comment=1732324

Post  #12930

[bicobus]

I'm sorry to ask this again, but what of the broken creature animations? I can't surrender to any creatures and defeats list of creatures contains nothing. Is there a fix? Last time this didn't get any attention.

 

It's an initialization issue. Try juggling with defeat's reset/reinstall/reconfigure system. The problem you are having is that defeat installed itself while the creature sex was disabled in sexlab, you may have enabled it afterward but the initial configuration stayed. Try to install sexlab, configure it, then install any mod that requires it.

[slipped3]

Thank you for this brilliant MOD.

 

   I have no problems with this MOD as I install it and leave it alone. Now I want to put "Jaxonz Renamer" in it shows conflicts. As I do not know how to make MOD's yet could you please tell me if the conflicts are a problem with a short explanation of why so I learn more. I am using Mod Organizer and it is fantastic.

 

List of conflicts:

 

uilib_1.pex

uilib_1_textinputmenu.swf

uilib_1_listmenu.swf

buttonart.swf

uilib_1_notificationarea.swf

 

 

[thatguy1!]

Problem, "Hold A or D to Resist" is stuck on my screen but nothing defeat related is happening :/ (I've tried loading a previous save but it now constantly shows on previous saves as well)

[wantmads]

Skyrimll has decided to no longer have Death Alternative as a hard requirement for his SD+ mod. So I was thinking, it would be great if you could make some sort of change so that instead of when defeated, your mod initiates a SD+ enslavement. Personally, I always preferred Defeat to DA (it seems like a smoother, more lightweight alternative to DA, plus it has the great "DDCaptured" support), and if you did that, then instead of having to rely on Simple Slavery for enslavement (which I think only has one master available, Jaosi Lowen), you could actually be enslaved by the person who defeats you in combat.

 

Here's a link to a post where Skyrimll gave some information if you'd like to do that.

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24042-sd-sanguine-debauchery-enhanced-2016-09-04/page-647?do=findComment&comment=1732324

Post  #12930

 

I am so glad he is doing that. DA has been giving me unreasonable problems starting from having constant immunity, to getting stuck standing still, and to never ending bleedout.

 

Please make Defeat trigger SD+ events. They would fit so well together.

[Airianna]

I'm sorry to ask this again, but what of the broken creature animations? I can't surrender to any creatures and defeats list of creatures contains nothing. Is there a fix? Last time this didn't get any attention.

 

it sounds like you haven't installed the Creature Animations, and toggled them in the Sexlab MCM menu.

 

 

Problem, "Hold A or D to Resist" is stuck on my screen but nothing defeat related is happening :/ (I've tried loading a previous save but it now constantly shows on previous saves as well)

 

You don't press and hold A or D, you alternate between A and D, press 1 then the other and repeat, faster causes the bar to fill up faster.

[Airianna]

 

Ok so there is some experimentations in this version so it may contain some bugs, but i can't test everything by myself, I'm counting on you to tell me what should be changed and if there is bugs to fix, I'll make more smaller updates from now on to fix/add things.

 

Like for the player grapple on NPC from behind, do you want some algorithm here for them to resist better? It's kinda overpowered so dunno, tell me.

When i downlowded your file it opens up solitare?  There seems to be no file here?  Could you have been hacked?

Ok so there is some experimentations in this version so it may contain some bugs, but i can't test everything by myself, I'm counting on you to tell me what should be changed and if there is bugs to fix, I'll make more smaller updates from now on to fix/add things.

 

Like for the player grapple on NPC from behind, do you want some algorithm here for them to resist better? It's kinda overpowered so dunno, tell me.

When i downlowded your file it opens up solitare?  There seems to be no file here?  Could you have been hacked?

 

 

Sounds to me like you need WinZip, or a mod manager, or you have some kind of virus on your computer, causing zip files to open solitaire.

 

There are several other possible issues, I just checked his file, and it's loaded with his mod for Skyrim.

[thatguy1!]

 

I'm sorry to ask this again, but what of the broken creature animations? I can't surrender to any creatures and defeats list of creatures contains nothing. Is there a fix? Last time this didn't get any attention.

 

it sounds like you haven't installed the Creature Animations, and toggled them in the Sexlab MCM menu.

 

 

Problem, "Hold A or D to Resist" is stuck on my screen but nothing defeat related is happening :/ (I've tried loading a previous save but it now constantly shows on previous saves as well)

 

You don't press and hold A or D, you alternate between A and D, press 1 then the other and repeat, faster causes the bar to fill up faster.

 

 

I do know that you rapidly alternate between A and D, what I was saying is that "Hold A or D to resist" is stuck on my screen even though I have not been knocked down or anything Defeat related, I'm simply walking around in the world of Skyrim with the text constantly in the middle of my screen, that's my problem.

[horonbr]

couldn't get any scene where the npc is rape by npc after combat and aggressors,creatures and men always didnt rape my followers eventhough i've already uncheck last enemy(they ignored npc when already knocked down,Is there any way to fix this?

[Sospice]

 

Skyrimll has decided to no longer have Death Alternative as a hard requirement for his SD+ mod. So I was thinking, it would be great if you could make some sort of change so that instead of when defeated, your mod initiates a SD+ enslavement. Personally, I always preferred Defeat to DA (it seems like a smoother, more lightweight alternative to DA, plus it has the great "DDCaptured" support), and if you did that, then instead of having to rely on Simple Slavery for enslavement (which I think only has one master available, Jaosi Lowen), you could actually be enslaved by the person who defeats you in combat.

 

Here's a link to a post where Skyrimll gave some information if you'd like to do that.

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24042-sd-sanguine-debauchery-enhanced-2016-09-04/page-647?do=findComment&comment=1732324

Post  #12930

 

I am so glad he is doing that. DA has been giving me unreasonable problems starting from having constant immunity, to getting stuck standing still, and to never ending bleedout.

 

Please make Defeat trigger SD+ events. They would fit so well together.

 

 

I kind of do that right now by setting it so that Defeat either sends you to Simple Slavery and then to SD+ (Which means you get that one master over and over), or by having it send you to a  DA event where I turn off all options but SD+ and just cross my fingers & hope that DA doesn't blow everything up during the transition to SD+ (which it does about 20 percent of the time).

 

But your right, it would be awesome. Defeat has the ability to be a powerful alternative to Simple Slavery (SS), DA & Deviously Enslavement for those who are only interested in combat oriented enslavement/ sex events. 

 

 

 

Skyrimll has decided to no longer have Death Alternative as a hard requirement for his SD+ mod. So I was thinking, it would be great if you could make some sort of change so that instead of when defeated, your mod initiates a SD+ enslavement. Personally, I always preferred Defeat to DA (it seems like a smoother, more lightweight alternative to DA, plus it has the great "DDCaptured" support), and if you did that, then instead of having to rely on Simple Slavery for enslavement (which I think only has one master available, Jaosi Lowen), you could actually be enslaved by the person who defeats you in combat.

 

Here's a link to a post where Skyrimll gave some information if you'd like to do that.

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24042-sd-sanguine-debauchery-enhanced-2016-09-04/page-647?do=findComment&comment=1732324

Post  #12930

 

I am so glad he is doing that. DA has been giving me unreasonable problems starting from having constant immunity, to getting stuck standing still, and to never ending bleedout.

 

Please make Defeat trigger SD+ events. They would fit so well together.

 

 

I kind of do that right now by setting it so that Defeat either sends you to Simple Slavery and then to SD+ (Which means you get that one master over and over), or by having it send you to a  DA event where I turn off all options but SD+ and just cross my fingers & hope that DA doesn't blow everything up during the transition to SD+ (which it does about 20 percent of the time).

 

But your right, it would be awesome. Defeat has the ability to be a powerful alternative to Simple Slavery (SS), DA & Deviously Enslavement for those who are only interested in combat oriented enslavement/ sex events. 

 

 

[Airianna]

I am having an issue with changing the tags for Female/Female Consensual, CTD when I click on Lesbian, because I enjoy using a strapon or having a strapon used on me, I wanted to add some tags. Also, with the other tags, there is no way to reset just one thing, if I accidentally add a 2nd of the same tag already chosen, trying to remove it, it can't be removed and you wind up with something like, doggy, missionary, doggy...

 

The prostitution add in is working great. Loving it lots. (Even at level 1, I make enough for a room and food for the day just by pulling a few tricks.)

 

Bandits, even non-unique bandits, aren't worth much, it says they aren't in a faction, 9g at level 1 for their bounty (handover). What did they do, hit a guard and run away? You'd think they would give at least 100 gold, for being a bandit. So my thought would be, to allow modding of the factions?

[horonbr]

disabling the last enemy option still doesnt work to let npc rape my followers when it was knocked down :\  help anyone has the same problem?

[wantmads]

I am having an issue with changing the tags for Female/Female Consensual, CTD when I click on Lesbian, because I enjoy using a strapon or having a strapon used on me, I wanted to add some tags. Also, with the other tags, there is no way to reset just one thing, if I accidentally add a 2nd of the same tag already chosen, trying to remove it, it can't be removed and you wind up with something like, doggy, missionary, doggy...

 

The prostitution add in is working great. Loving it lots. (Even at level 1, I make enough for a room and food for the day just by pulling a few tricks.)

 

Bandits, even non-unique bandits, aren't worth much, it says they aren't in a faction, 9g at level 1 for their bounty (handover). What did they do, hit a guard and run away? You'd think they would give at least 100 gold, for being a bandit. So my thought would be, to allow modding of the factions?

 

When you CTD is it after you go SLAL to add animations and then go to Defeat to change tags? It's always been happening to me so I add animations from SLAL then save, quit game to desktop, then reload that last save, and then finally go to Defeat and change tags. Never crash when I do it that way.

[Airianna]

 

I am having an issue with changing the tags for Female/Female Consensual, CTD when I click on Lesbian, because I enjoy using a strapon or having a strapon used on me, I wanted to add some tags. Also, with the other tags, there is no way to reset just one thing, if I accidentally add a 2nd of the same tag already chosen, trying to remove it, it can't be removed and you wind up with something like, doggy, missionary, doggy...

 

The prostitution add in is working great. Loving it lots. (Even at level 1, I make enough for a room and food for the day just by pulling a few tricks.)

 

Bandits, even non-unique bandits, aren't worth much, it says they aren't in a faction, 9g at level 1 for their bounty (handover). What did they do, hit a guard and run away? You'd think they would give at least 100 gold, for being a bandit. So my thought would be, to allow modding of the factions?

 

When you CTD is it after you go SLAL to add animations and then go to Defeat to change tags? It's always been happening to me so I add animations from SLAL then save, quit game to desktop, then reload that last save, and then finally go to Defeat and change tags. Never crash when I do it that way.

 

 

it is during set up. Starting a new game. Just using the presets. So now I just avoid it for the moment.

 

Can't believe it, my Data folder alone is now over 35 GB. And could be causing some of my problems. But right now, everything runs smooth for several hours before having to save and exit completely, cause after 5 hours, sexlab really slows down on the stripping. (I believe that to be a memory leak due to the heavy # of scripted mods I have)

[Goubo]

Skyrimll has decided to no longer have Death Alternative as a hard requirement for his SD+ mod. So I was thinking, it would be great if you could make some sort of change so that instead of when defeated, your mod initiates a SD+ enslavement. Personally, I always preferred Defeat to DA (it seems like a smoother, more lightweight alternative to DA, plus it has the great "DDCaptured" support), and if you did that, then instead of having to rely on Simple Slavery for enslavement (which I think only has one master available, Jaosi Lowen), you could actually be enslaved by the person who defeats you in combat.

 

Here's a link to a post where Skyrimll gave some information if you'd like to do that.

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/24042-sd-sanguine-debauchery-enhanced-2016-09-04/page-647?do=findComment&comment=1732324

Post  #12930

Simple Slavery & SD are already integrated as knock down combat & blackout events in Defeat and will only trigger if you have those mods installed, obviously.

 

 

 

Thank you for this brilliant MOD.

 

   I have no problems with this MOD as I install it and leave it alone. Now I want to put "Jaxonz Renamer" in it shows conflicts. As I do not know how to make MOD's yet could you please tell me if the conflicts are a problem with a short explanation of why so I learn more. I am using Mod Organizer and it is fantastic.

 

List of conflicts:

 

uilib_1.pex

uilib_1_textinputmenu.swf

uilib_1_listmenu.swf

buttonart.swf

uilib_1_notificationarea.swf

 

uilib is a ressource for the list menu & entry menu I use, it's directly integrated in the mods who uses it so the conflict is not a big deal, though those files should be in a bsa, you've probably extracted it that's why the conflict shows in MO I guess.

 

 

Is it possible to add an option for threesome necro since FB has animation for those?

Yep I said to FB I would add it.

 

 

 

 

I have tested it in a new game and it works perfect, there is no lag, so, some suggestion to fix it in my main game with character level 55? I do not want to start over 

 

I'm not very good with the keyboard actually I play my game with Xbox 360 controller, using the control pad (the left cross) I can add the Surrender Key and the Action Key, but I can not add the Modifier Key, for some reason the fact that it has to be pressed does not make it work, any suggestions to add it ?, I have tried with one of the triggers of the controller but it does not work. 

 

Finally ... Is there any specific configuration for just running aggressive animations?, I have placed in all tabs only '' aggressive '' '' aggressive '' '' aggressive '' and '' aggressive '', but in game only appear mostly mutual agreement animations.

 

Thanks by respond! 

 

Try to clean your save (check clean saving in the faq)

 

Yep I need to make the modifier key controller friendly, thanks for reminding me.

 

You don't have to change anything to use the aggressive set of animation, Defeat does it by default, there's a problem with your SexLab settings.

 

 

Hi Goubo,

 

I hope this isnt something that has already been brought up - creature threesome animations (PC Victim function) are sort of broken right now. If the PC gets defeated by a group that includes more than one species of creature (e.g falmer and chaurus; bear + 2 wolves, etc), then a threesome animation can trigger, but defeat doesnt ensure that only the right species get selected as actors in a threesome animation.

 

So a falmer threesome can activate involving the PC, one falmer and one chaurus. That breaks the animation. Same if a wolf threesome plays, but the selected actors include a wolf and a bear.

 

Or am I just missing something when configuring defeat, and have been too dumb to work it out?

 

Thanks for your continuing work on defeat. It's such an important part of my sexlab playthroughs.

Ok I will test this more thoroughly and fix it, thanks.

[hamthe3rd]

Just to add, DD devices are not showing up in Sexlab to exclude from stripping, so for me as a user the harness always gets stripped when defeat undresses her.  It stays in inventory (as a copy gets dropped/stolen)  and I have to drop it from inventory to reactivate it as a locked, worn device. (Ending up with two on the ground and one worn by the character)

[Numerals]

Just to add, DD devices are not showing up in Sexlab to exclude from stripping, so for me as a user the harness always gets stripped when defeat undresses her.  It stays in inventory (as a copy gets dropped/stolen)  and I have to drop it from inventory to reactivate it as a locked, worn device. (Ending up with two on the ground and one worn by the character)

 

Check your slot stripping settings, both in SL and Defeat?

[hamthe3rd]

I am not sure which slot the harness takes. It gets covered when armor/clothes are worn.

[MsOtaku]

I am not sure which slot the harness takes. It gets covered when armor/clothes are worn.

 

This has helped me a lot when I don't know what goes in what slot: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/64976/?

[chipstick]

 

Hi Goubo,

 

I hope this isnt something that has already been brought up - creature threesome animations (PC Victim function) are sort of broken right now. If the PC gets defeated by a group that includes more than one species of creature (e.g falmer and chaurus; bear + 2 wolves, etc), then a threesome animation can trigger, but defeat doesnt ensure that only the right species get selected as actors in a threesome animation.

 

So a falmer threesome can activate involving the PC, one falmer and one chaurus. That breaks the animation. Same if a wolf threesome plays, but the selected actors include a wolf and a bear.

 

Or am I just missing something when configuring defeat, and have been too dumb to work it out?

 

Thanks for your continuing work on defeat. It's such an important part of my sexlab playthroughs.

Ok I will test this more thoroughly and fix it, thanks.

 

 

Thank you Goubo, looking forward to it. Another thing that has just popped into my head - presuming the species "check" is fixed, would it be able to accommodate leito's male-female-creature animations (male + dog on female), since that crosses the npc/creature boundary for sexlab? It's not very important, as this is a very niche case - nearly never any encounters where that is applicable. (Unlike the more general mixed species scenarios, which is extremely common).

 

 

[DarkRavage]

For some reason, aggressive animations are still playing in consensual sex. I even checked restricted aggressive animation in sexlab and added suppress tags in defeat. Anyone have more ideas?

[Sneaksmile]

 

 

 

 

I have tested it in a new game and it works perfect, there is no lag, so, some suggestion to fix it in my main game with character level 55? I do not want to start over 

 

I'm not very good with the keyboard actually I play my game with Xbox 360 controller, using the control pad (the left cross) I can add the Surrender Key and the Action Key, but I can not add the Modifier Key, for some reason the fact that it has to be pressed does not make it work, any suggestions to add it ?, I have tried with one of the triggers of the controller but it does not work. 

 

Finally ... Is there any specific configuration for just running aggressive animations?, I have placed in all tabs only '' aggressive '' '' aggressive '' '' aggressive '' and '' aggressive '', but in game only appear mostly mutual agreement animations.

 

Thanks by respond! 

 

Try to clean your save (check clean saving in the faq)

 

Yep I need to make the modifier key controller friendly, thanks for reminding me.

 

You don't have to change anything to use the aggressive set of animation, Defeat does it by default, there's a problem with your SexLab settings.

 

 

1. Okay, I will check it, thanks. 

 

2. Yes? that was sarcasm? I hope not   ... many of us play with controller on PC.  

 

3. Really? What do i have to do? I think that in the last tab of the MCM menu of SexLab there is an option to reset it to default, that should I do? 

 

4. Then ... If I install a package of very aggressive animations like the one that you suggest in the first page of Defeat, I do not have to do anything and Defeat recognizes them automatically? 

 

Thanks. 

[bicobus]

Animations are tagged, if the animations in your pack have the appropriate tags then they will be in the pool of animations chosen by defeat. I don't know what you were referring to for point 2 and 3.

[Goubo]

 

 

1. Okay, I will check it, thanks. 

 

2. Yes? that was sarcasm? I hope not   ... many of us play with controller on PC.  

 

3. Really? What do i have to do? I think that in the last tab of the MCM menu of SexLab there is an option to reset it to default, that should I do? 

 

4. Then ... If I install a package of very aggressive animations like the one that you suggest in the first page of Defeat, I do not have to do anything and Defeat recognizes them automatically? 

 

Thanks. 

 

Lol no, why would I use sarcasm there? I know people prefer to play with controllers.

 

I don't change much the SexLab's settings myself tbh, like bicobus said it work by tag but if the tag is empty or is simply "aggressive" it will start a default aggressive set of animation, you can try to reset to default or rinstall completely SexLab properly and running FNIS.

 

 

I am not sure which slot the harness takes. It gets covered when armor/clothes are worn.

 

This has helped me a lot when I don't know what goes in what slot: http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/64976/?

 

btw you can check the slot of the items that you are wearing in the MCM menu of Defeat just above the stripping options. (Check equipped item slots)

[Airianna]

I am not sure which slot the harness takes. It gets covered when armor/clothes are worn.

 

In defeat, under player as victim, scroll down to the bottom, you will see strip/unequip section...

On the right side, you have a button you can press that tells you what is attached to which node. Then you can adjust from there to ensure it doesn't get stripped, bellow that, you set that node to never strip. Also in Sexlab, as it has a very extensive list of what nodes can be taken off.