SexLab Defeat

[flapperlass]

Didn't there use to be an option to allow some basic comments from aggressors (with fuz ro doh)? I can't find that in the MCM anymore. What happened?/Can we get it back?

[Septemvile]

Okay I'm running into a bit of an odd issue. I was wrong before. The spriggan and atronach sex was MoreNastyCritters, not Defeat. That being said, I can't seem to surrender to any female creature, but I can rape spriggans (no other creature though). Does anyone have any idea what could cause that?

 

Also, when I disable the MoreNastyCritters pack, I lose the ability to rape spriggans. It just says "You can't do that."

[Guest]

I have an issue. When i order to my female follower to rape a female NPC, the animation is reversed : it seems to be my follower who is raped by the NPC.

 

Do you know what is this problem ?

[cbvbadlarry]

Not sure if its defeat related or not but on one of my characters most 'enemies' are no longer hostile. The only other mod i have that might pacify the enemy is death alternative. Every time i try to kill an enemy if they don't die outright they draw their weapon, say a combat dialog then re-sheath and insta heal. My other 2 characters don't have this problem and i was sure they had identical MCM settings with exception of the sexlab voice.

 

[Crate123]

I can't seem to reset the tags for aggressive sex where my character is the aggressor no matter which key I press and by mistake my tags no include like 10 different tags which severely limits the options available to me.

Any help ?

 

EDIT: Reinstalling it fixed the problem, weird.

[poorsaintjimmy]

I'm having trouble actually getting the animations to happen, whether it's my character raping someone or them getting raped. The clothes come off, but nothing happens. Is this a bud or did I forget to install something or did something wrong?

[cbvbadlarry]

I'm having trouble actually getting the animations to happen, whether it's my character raping someone or them getting raped. The clothes come off, but nothing happens. Is this a bud or did I forget to install something or did something wrong?

 

Make sure you have sexlab installed and try running FNIS again to make sure the animations are registered.

 

[bury02128]

Not sure if its defeat related or not but on one of my characters most 'enemies' are no longer hostile. The only other mod i have that might pacify the enemy is death alternative. Every time i try to kill an enemy if they don't die outright they draw their weapon, say a combat dialog then re-sheath and insta heal. My other 2 characters don't have this problem and i was sure they had identical MCM settings with exception of the sexlab voice.

Do you have estrus chaurus + by the chance, or even more, spider add on for it . This causes repeated issues like that for me. If its defeat you can always use clean mod function in mcm.

[cbvbadlarry]

 

Not sure if its defeat related or not but on one of my characters most 'enemies' are no longer hostile. The only other mod i have that might pacify the enemy is death alternative. Every time i try to kill an enemy if they don't die outright they draw their weapon, say a combat dialog then re-sheath and insta heal. My other 2 characters don't have this problem and i was sure they had identical MCM settings with exception of the sexlab voice.

Do you have estrus chaurus + by the chance, or even more, spider add on for it . This causes repeated issues like that for me. If its defeat you can always use clean mod function in mcm.

 

 

i just downloaded estrus charus this morning but thanks ill give that a try when i next go to my vampire character

 

EDIT:  Cleaning mod function worked, thanks, i didnt see that before.

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[Heppai]

hey guys, 

Back at it again with the issues.

All factions arent hostile towards me now. Bandit, silver hand, etc. (only humanoids).Other topics have lead to Defeat and to clean the mods as being the cause but couldnt quite give me an answer I needed.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/22152-reset-faction-animosity-towards-player/

 

I've rebuilt and cleaned SL and Defeat but it doesnt fix my issue. Everything else works great.

[Heppai]

Mod still is acting strange. I've reinstalled, defeat and SL, but still no fix. Can anyone help?

[Caliban44]

Heppai need your load order to even begin to help you out

[Heppai]

Of course!

 

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[Caliban44]

Heppai to start off the reproccer.esp needs to be fixed,

 

2. this (84 DynDOLOD.esp [Version 1.38]) should be farther down the load order than what it currently is

3 did you run fnis after installing all of these mods?

4 did you run l.o.o.t.?

5 since you are using wrye smash as your mod manager, under the mods tab are any of the squares beside themods names orange or red? i know of at least 3 in your l.o. that are orange just from the mods names,

[Heppai]

Heppai to start off the reproccer.esp needs to be fixed,

 

2. this (84 DynDOLOD.esp [Version 1.38]) should be farther down the load order than what it currently is

3 did you run fnis after installing all of these mods?

4 did you run l.o.o.t.?

5 since you are using wrye smash as your mod manager, under the mods tab are any of the squares beside themods names orange or red? i know of at least 3 in your l.o. that are orange just from the mods names,

 

2. I was unaware of that since I havent gotten any notifications from wyre about it.

3. Yes, always.

4. Yes, religiously.

5. Nope all green.

 

I've run reproccer several times since posting my load order. No fix. I'm looking at wyre now and aside from merged patches, nothing out of the ordinary. My saves vary from purple to red, but I only load from purple saves.

[StupidFox]

Defeat is working fine except now that I have Lydia, no one goes for her. I have it set for them to go after my follower too, and even with several guys around, no one touches her. Then after a few seconds, she gets back up and attacks people and it stops the animation.
I played with Defeat settings and DAYMOL settings, and can't get it so that when I go down, Lydia goes down and the mobs assault both of us.

Any advice on the settings to use for this?
 

[hamthe3rd]

So, right now my one save is unplayable when the character gets into a bleed state. (There is no statis and stays in bleed out animation infinitum) I tried a new save and didn't install Defeat (just left it unenabled) and DA works as it should.

 

Something is happening when it should enact the Defeat portion from DA, I don't know if the interaction is working right.

[Guest]

Is it possible to have a creature as a follower-agressor ?

[SomeGuyBondage]

I Installed every single requirment, and i still can't get it to work, when the enemy "defeats" my character, he just removes my characters clothes and attempts to kill them, why's this?

[Caliban44]

 

Heppai to start off the reproccer.esp needs to be fixed,

 

2. this (84 DynDOLOD.esp [Version 1.38]) should be farther down the load order than what it currently is

3 did you run fnis after installing all of these mods?

4 did you run l.o.o.t.?

5 since you are using wrye smash as your mod manager, under the mods tab are any of the squares beside themods names orange or red? i know of at least 3 in your l.o. that are orange just from the mods names,

2. I was unaware of that since I havent gotten any notifications from wyre about it.

3. Yes, always.

4. Yes, religiously.

5. Nope all green.

 

I've run reproccer several times since posting my load order. No fix. I'm looking at wyre now and aside from merged patches, nothing out of the ordinary. My saves vary from purple to red, but I only load from purple saves.

Also check the skipped tab on the right hand side of wrye and see if any files are skipped under the installers tab

[Heppai]

 

 

Heppai to start off the reproccer.esp needs to be fixed,

 

2. this (84 DynDOLOD.esp [Version 1.38]) should be farther down the load order than what it currently is

3 did you run fnis after installing all of these mods?

4 did you run l.o.o.t.?

5 since you are using wrye smash as your mod manager, under the mods tab are any of the squares beside themods names orange or red? i know of at least 3 in your l.o. that are orange just from the mods names,

2. I was unaware of that since I havent gotten any notifications from wyre about it.

3. Yes, always.

4. Yes, religiously.

5. Nope all green.

 

I've run reproccer several times since posting my load order. No fix. I'm looking at wyre now and aside from merged patches, nothing out of the ordinary. My saves vary from purple to red, but I only load from purple saves.

Also check the skipped tab on the right hand side of wrye and see if any files are skipped under the installers tab

 

Thank you for your continued help with this, but no, its all blank. All the tabs are.

[Klabauter]

 

Could you please make a mod with only the sack option?

 

I want to use Defeat V5b3.3fixed, because I find it is the only really balanced version I've seen so far (with all the other version I have tested I could take out whole cities at level 1 without anyone doing anything against it), however, it sadly doesn't have a sack option somehow... And the sack is pretty essential for this mod. I think many stealth players would also love to have such a sack option, no matter if they use Defeat or not. There is not a single mod out there which lets you carry NPCs around.

Instead of this can you tell me how I should balance it?

I know it's easy to knockdown with it now and the crime part could be improved (pain in the ass to handle the crime in this game!)

 

And no I'll not make a seperate mod for the sack, you can already disable every part of the mod (in your case you can disable player victim/npc vs npc) so there is really no reason at all to seperate the features.

Sorry for the late reply, but the thing which always makes me uninstall this mod is, that, like you said, it is too easy to knockdown people (or to make them yield). There is an option in the MCM for knockdown chances, but even in the newest 5.3.2 version this chance is somehow always at 100% for me, and I can't make it any lower, but just higher (up to 200%). I don't know if that's a bug, or just on my end, but I doubt that it is on my end, because I tested this multiple times already with barely any other mod installed.

 

In the V5b3.3fixed version it actually was better, because I couldn't always knockdown people or make them yield, and when they resisted, they called for help, but in any other version I've tested, it always was the case that I could knockdown everyone at all times in front of everyone. I have no idea how to code, but if you could just make it so that one also really can lower knockdown chances, and when an assault fails the victim calls for help so that you get a bounty if there are any witnesses, then the mod would be perfect for me. Thanks!

[SexDwarf2250]

Occasionally after combat, I notice an unresponsive slave that will only reply to dialogue with "..." and nothing else. Telling Defeat to do a reset gives me access to the normal dialogue again. Does anyone have a clue what might cause this? I'll try to see more precisely how and when it happens.

 

Edit: As to Klabauter's comments, I think a "struggle meter" for taking targets down would be awesome, and the longer it takes you to do, the more attention you draw...

[StupidFox]

I got it to recognize Lydia last night. Not sure which setting change did the trick.
The other issue I have now is that half the time if I'm defeated, I go bleedout, then pop back to full health when the enemy beats that down. 
Then it just repeats 2-3 times until they finally do something to me when I go bleedout.

Anyone have any idea?

[Heppai]

 

 

Heppai to start off the reproccer.esp needs to be fixed,

 

2. this (84 DynDOLOD.esp [Version 1.38]) should be farther down the load order than what it currently is

3 did you run fnis after installing all of these mods?

4 did you run l.o.o.t.?

5 since you are using wrye smash as your mod manager, under the mods tab are any of the squares beside themods names orange or red? i know of at least 3 in your l.o. that are orange just from the mods names,

2. I was unaware of that since I havent gotten any notifications from wyre about it.

3. Yes, always.

4. Yes, religiously.

5. Nope all green.

 

I've run reproccer several times since posting my load order. No fix. I'm looking at wyre now and aside from merged patches, nothing out of the ordinary. My saves vary from purple to red, but I only load from purple saves.

Also check the skipped tab on the right hand side of wrye and see if any files are skipped under the installers tab

 

 

By the way, I started another game and its still happening. Odd. They just keep going after my horse but ignore me.