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buzzbombr

buzzbombr

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I've no doubt this has covered a bajillion times, but try as I might, I just can't find any help by searching on my own. I beg your forgiveness, please don't hold it against me.

 

I haven't played Skyrim since maybe 2017 or so. Even then it was rare. Probably a couple years before that since I actually played seriously. I'd like to revisit the world.

 

I miss watching my naked huntress sneaking about while naked and then being naked while strolling about while naked and naked while fighting naked and then she's naked while she's naked talking to people while she's naked. Plus she's naked. And she's hot. With a butt plug. While naked.

 

Yeah. Well, I don't have a current game I'm playing and I miss all that naked with a butt plug thing. My mods not only allowed all that and more, she was badass with a bow while naked and being naked while she was badass with her (naked) bow, which was much less sexy with a buttplug than she was while being naked with a buttplug and a bow.

 

So, anywho, I've decided to revisit Skyrim after many years, and after a couple nights of trying, I've found that I've no freakin' clue where to even start! I bought the game on 11/11/11 and played and modded it for years and years. Now, I'm clueless.

 

I've reinstalled it via steam, and restored all my mods via a backup hdd to a temp folder. I then installed Vortex, since as far as I can tell it's the latest and greatest mod manager. There is where I am stuck.

 

Is Vortex the way to go nowadays to create a stable, modded Skyrim? If so, I can figure it out. What I'm afraid of is that I'm going to put a whole lot of effort into doing just that, only to find out that it is hopelessly outdated and I should have gone another route. Is Vortex the current way, or should I just go back to installing and trying to manage the mods manually, or is NMM still viable?

Grey Cloud

Grey Cloud

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If you had spent two minutes using a search engine instead of the time you wasted writing all that bullshit in the OP you would have found all sorts of guides on every aspect of modding Skyrim.

 

You would have also spared yourself the comments of the MO evangelists. Vortex is entirely capable of providing a stable, modded Skyrim.

 

For LE
https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7521-conglomerate-01-installing-skyrim-stability-fixes-tools/

https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/SkyrimLE:3.0.0

 

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Gameplayer

Gameplayer

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Ehem,

 

Been modding for almost 2 decades now, your always better off using a mod manager that was purpose built for specific games.

Nexus Mod Manager and Vortex are meant to be a jack of all trades, that is these are meant to handle all games....Does that sound purposefully specific to Skyrim? No it does not.

 

When you want to build a beastly load order that will make people that use mods get mad at you simply because what right do you have to have a better experience at it than they do, go with Mod Organizer.  It was specifically made for Skyrim and to specifically handle its mods.

 

For crying out loud, we have had people pushing Nexus Mod Manager down our thoughts, up our ass, and down our penis canal and up our vaginia about how its better than FOMM even decade after it was obvious that FOMM was still the way to go hands down for Fo3/FNV.  Even Tales of Two Wasteland team members which I had the joy to talk too on discord would go on an on about how the shills for NMM were causing them loads of headache when it came to end-users coming to them about their self induced problems caused by using mod managers not built and even heavily told explicitly not to use NMM for TTW and today your not to use Vortex with TTW!  BUT Oh no you can ignore the mod developer because some rando ass dude on the internet knows better than the guys/team that built the fucking mods.

 

I build mods, you want to know what mod manager I suggest you use, its Mod Organizer 2.

 

Do you know how heavily MO2 is pushed on Youtube modding Tuts?  Do you know why?  Because we mod developers use MO2, the STEP community uses MO2, the whole fucking community that knows how to mod massive load orders uses MO2.  Every single tut online uses MO2.

 

But you know what I am going to tell you go ahead and use Vortex, because a bunch of newbies and old hats that dont develop mods tell you to use Vortex.

 

Just dont expect good help from the mod developer when you say, I use Vortex.

Get used to eye rolling and people shitting all over you because you use a shit manager because random internet dude said its alright when every fucking major tutorial maker and every major mod developer says to use MO2.

 

All of you that push a manager that is not MO2, should know better!  Because its true that STEP uses MO2, ITs true that every major personality on YouTube Tut guides use and suggest MO2, Its true that major mod teams and developers all use MO2. 

NOT Vortex,

NOT NMM,

 

You will find people still developing NMM, I dont care.

What I care about is that FOMM works for Fo3/FNV and its also still developed.

What I care about is what works.

MO2 for Skyrim, SkyrimSE, SkyrimAE, Fallout 4...Possibly even now for Fo3/FNV it was built specific to Bethesada games!

 

Witcher 3, fine we can talk about managers made specifically for W3....Wait you thought I was going to say Vortex didnt you?

 

What about SIMS4?  Can I now use Vortex? NO use a mod manager made for SIMS4! dont fall into general manager traps.

 

BUT I want to mod RimWorld!?  CannIuse Vortex?  Hell No! there is a mod manager called "mod manager" on Steam for that game!

 

But I want to play XCOM? surely I can use Vortex?  Oh sure you can but it wont be as good as the Mod Manager specifically made for that game!

 

GAMEPLAYER??? What the Fuck rant!!!!  WHY?

Because IF a game has a large mod follower it always has a specific built manager for it and its always better than generalist manager thats why I mentioned all the other games.

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Tlam99

Tlam99

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26 minutes ago, Mr. Otaku said:

, i can already sense it lol

Well, then let's go ahead ?

MO2 forever.

Left side represents data directory, everything outside the esp, last wins.

Right side LO, everything inside the esp, last wins.

What else do you need ?

 

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Mr. Otaku

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16 minutes ago, Tlam99 said:

Well, then let's go ahead ?

MO2 forever.

Left side represents data directory, everything outside the esp, last wins.

Right side LO, everything inside the esp, last wins.

What else do you need ?

 

Hey i'm team MO2 as well so i get it lol. But if someone is comfortable using another mod manager and prefers how it works then who am i to stop them right? That's my general policy, if it works for you then that's all that matters. I'm sure Vortex does some cool stuff but honestly i just can't bother to learn yet another mod manager, not when MO2 is so efficient and effective.

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Grey Cloud

Grey Cloud

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7 minutes ago, Heroine HoneyCrotch said:

 

Havent you said the same for vortex and nmm? Whats next? Wrye Bash? 

 

Love ya bro. 

Mod Enabler is for Nioh 2. Skyrim is so yesterday. ?

Idyll

Idyll

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1 hour ago, SmedleyDButler said:

You're thinking about this all wrong bud.

 

 

Hahaha, I know what use I'd put it through and it wasn't listed...! ?

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buzzbombr

buzzbombr

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17 hours ago, Grey Cloud said:

If you had spent two minutes using a search engine instead of the time you wasted writing all that bullshit in the OP you would have found all sorts of guides on every aspect of modding Skyrim.

 

You would have also spared yourself the comments of the MO evangelists. Vortex is entirely capable of providing a stable, modded Skyrim.

 

For LE
https://www.loverslab.com/blogs/entry/7521-conglomerate-01-installing-skyrim-stability-fixes-tools/

https://stepmodifications.org/wiki/SkyrimLE:3.0.0

 

Well, I am sorry. I thought I mentioned that I searched and couldn't find anything. While I'm naked and naked while searching while naked. Didn't I mention that.? That I searched and couldn't find anything? Oh well. I appreciate your input, though. You rock. I hope you're naked, too.

buzzbombr

buzzbombr

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11 hours ago, Gameplayer said:

Ehem,

 

Been modding for almost 2 decades now, your always better off using a mod manager that was purpose built for specific games.

Nexus Mod Manager and Vortex are meant to be a jack of all trades, that is these are meant to handle all games....Does that sound purposefully specific to Skyrim? No it does not.

 

When you want to build a beastly load order that will make people that use mods get mad at you simply because what right do you have to have a better experience at it than they do, go with Mod Organizer.  It was specifically made for Skyrim and to specifically handle its mods.

 

For crying out loud, we have had people pushing Nexus Mod Manager down our thoughts, up our ass, and down our penis canal and up our vaginia about how its better than FOMM even decade after it was obvious that FOMM was still the way to go hands down for Fo3/FNV.  Even Tales of Two Wasteland team members which I had the joy to talk too on discord would go on an on about how the shills for NMM were causing them loads of headache when it came to end-users coming to them about their self induced problems caused by using mod managers not built and even heavily told explicitly not to use NMM for TTW and today your not to use Vortex with TTW!  BUT Oh no you can ignore the mod developer because some rando ass dude on the internet knows better than the guys/team that built the fucking mods.

 

I build mods, you want to know what mod manager I suggest you use, its Mod Organizer 2.

 

Do you know how heavily MO2 is pushed on Youtube modding Tuts?  Do you know why?  Because we mod developers use MO2, the STEP community uses MO2, the whole fucking community that knows how to mod massive load orders uses MO2.  Every single tut online uses MO2.

 

But you know what I am going to tell you go ahead and use Vortex, because a bunch of newbies and old hats that dont develop mods tell you to use Vortex.

 

Just dont expect good help from the mod developer when you say, I use Vortex.

Get used to eye rolling and people shitting all over you because you use a shit manager because random internet dude said its alright when every fucking major tutorial maker and every major mod developer says to use MO2.

 

All of you that push a manager that is not MO2, should know better!  Because its true that STEP uses MO2, ITs true that every major personality on YouTube Tut guides use and suggest MO2, Its true that major mod teams and developers all use MO2. 

NOT Vortex,

NOT NMM,

 

You will find people still developing NMM, I dont care.

What I care about is that FOMM works for Fo3/FNV and its also still developed.

What I care about is what works.

MO2 for Skyrim, SkyrimSE, SkyrimAE, Fallout 4...Possibly even now for Fo3/FNV it was built specific to Bethesada games!

 

Witcher 3, fine we can talk about managers made specifically for W3....Wait you thought I was going to say Vortex didnt you?

 

What about SIMS4?  Can I now use Vortex? NO use a mod manager made for SIMS4! dont fall into general manager traps.

 

BUT I want to mod RimWorld!?  CannIuse Vortex?  Hell No! there is a mod manager called "mod manager" on Steam for that game!

 

But I want to play XCOM? surely I can use Vortex?  Oh sure you can but it wont be as good as the Mod Manager specifically made for that game!

 

GAMEPLAYER??? What the Fuck rant!!!!  WHY?

Because IF a game has a large mod follower it always has a specific built manager for it and its always better than generalist manager thats why I mentioned all the other games.

WOW! Let the angst rain down upon me! Whew, my (naked) penis canal is burning almost as much as my (naked) ass! You obviously have a very strong opinion concerning my very (I now know) naïve question. I think you've answered my (naked) question in spades, and then some!

 

I'm not really sure here, but I'm thinking maybe, just possibly.... Let's check it: Yup, it would seem that MO2 "might" be the way to go, here.

 

Am I right? Did I get that right? You really weren't that clear about your opinion. I'm not sure. It's so hard to read when your so busy being naked. :)

buzzbombr

buzzbombr

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6 hours ago, Mr. Otaku said:

This is gonna turn into an argument about mod managers, i can already sense it lol.

You sir, are obviously a scholar and a gentleman. I had no (naked) idea what a can of (naked) worms I was opening!!!

 

It's like walking (naked) into a bar you haven't been in for a decade and asking the (naked) bartender what's better, the bourbon or the scotch and have you something even better since I was last here (naked)?

 

Suddenly the whole frickin' bar of (naked) patrons explodes in a gosh-darn free for all with bar stools and broken bottles and maybe a thrown cupie doll with a ball of lead in it's ass.

 

Whew! All I wanted to do was revisit Skyrim.

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buzzbombr

buzzbombr

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5 hours ago, Tlam99 said:

Well, then let's go ahead ?

MO2 forever.

Left side represents data directory, everything outside the esp, last wins.

Right side LO, everything inside the esp, last wins.

What else do you need ?

 

OK. I haven't used MO2, but that makes sense. Thank you.

buzzbombr

buzzbombr

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5 hours ago, SmedleyDButler said:

You're thinking about this all wrong bud.

 

 

Yep. I've kind of gotten that impression. I do appreciate you're graphical representation of me getting burned a new hole in the backside, though. Very thoughtful. ;)

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