Ark of Truth Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 I kid you not folks!! All versions of BOSS have been removed from the Nexus and the comments areas on their pages "locked by request" Oblivion BOSS Skyrim BOSS
DoctaSax Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Maybe there's an update coming or something - I can't imagine this going unaddressed for long. In the mean time: http://code.google.com/p/better-oblivion-sorting-software/downloads/list
Ark of Truth Posted July 6, 2013 Author Posted July 6, 2013 It's been gone for almost a month according to the last post. Thanks for the link
DoctaSax Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 It's new to me too, but it kind of makes sense. The primary download is an exe installer so you have to make sure people don't try to download & install through NMM anyway, and although you can force manual downloads at the nexus - I think - there's also the matter that it's the same program for 4 different games so you'd be looking to centralize anyhow instead of maintaining four different download spots.
Someone92 Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Wasn't BOSS one of the mods/tools that were never downloadable from Nexus? Especially the developer of some tools only put a download link on the Bethesda forums or link to their own webpage for downloads; the description on Nexus features very visible under the big, fat headline " Downloads" the very same address DoctaSax has mentioned.
gregathit Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Boss used to be available on the nexus as a download. Once you installed it, you could then have it update its database, which pulled from the google docs site. Guess the author decided it was more trouble than it was worth trying to maintain multiple download sites. I don't blame him one little bit.
RitualClarity Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 It seems that now there is a page that has a link to the downloads. The same page that Docta posted a link to. Curious that a copy of the link and such isn't available on the Skyrim page. It might be that they author(s) are still working on that page. The forums linked seem to work for the games except Skyrim and Oblivion. Those are however locked.
srayesmanll Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 BOSS has been removed from the Skyrim Nexus site about a year now (check the date the thread was locked in the comments - 03/2012). This happened around the time that BOSS integration was removed from NMM. They must have either forgotten, or just left the downloads on FONV until recently. Frankly, I haven't looked at the BOSS pages in forever - just once when another comment was made here about BOSS being removed from Skyrim... Just a hunch, but it seems like BOSS support was removed from NMM around version 30.2 - no references to BOSS in the release notes of any version after .20.0.
RitualClarity Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 BOSS has been removed from the Skyrim Nexus site about a year now (check the date the thread was locked in the comments - 03/2012). This happened around the time that BOSS integration was removed from NMM. They must have either forgotten, or just left the downloads on FONV until recently. Frankly, I haven't looked at the BOSS pages in forever - just once when another comment was made here about BOSS being removed from Skyrim... Just a hunch, but it seems like BOSS support was removed from NMM around version 30.2 - no references to BOSS in the release notes of any version after .20.0. Well since NMM has been extremely dodgy in it's compatibility with the full range of tes and FO games it was probably left in till they could implement their own version of it. Problem is it's still dodgy from the ground up. Some of the BOSS files are exe's and won't be hosted on the nexus for obvious reasons, but getting BOSS has always been a hoop jump, at least when I did actually use it. A little off topic... I wasn't aware that there were issues with BOSS and NMM. Unfortunately I would have to use NMM with Skyrim for mods. Boss can still be used outside of Skyrim to order the mods correct? I believe I could use Wyre Bash but I am not confident and familiar with it. Currently I can get it to work with Oblivion but Skyrim not so much. It won't allow the DLC's to work so NMM is the only option if I want mods .
Koko.Hekmatyar Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 It's actually rather annoying since some mods require BOSS like Dual Sheath Redux for example has to have BOSS installed for the patch to be created.
gregathit Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 A little off topic... I believe I could use Wyre Bash but I am not confident and familiar with it. Currently I can get it to work with Oblivion but Skyrim not so much. It won't allow the DLC's to work so NMM is the only option if I want mods . I am using both DLC's and mods with Wrye Bash on Skyrim. I am using v297.1
Adam Jensen Posted July 6, 2013 Posted July 6, 2013 Actually is BOSS still working at all? I used it the other day and although it said it updated my load order, it didn't change anything at all.
RitualClarity Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 Try changing the order of a DLC , you know something that BOSS would correct, and see if BOSS corrects it. If it does it is working, if not there might be some issues.
RitualClarity Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 A little off topic... I believe I could use Wyre Bash but I am not confident and familiar with it. Currently I can get it to work with Oblivion but Skyrim not so much. It won't allow the DLC's to work so NMM is the only option if I want mods . I am using both DLC's and mods with Wrye Bash on Skyrim. I am using v297.1 I was using an older version.. Will upgrade to a newer version and see if that helps. If not I might make a post to help me configure it properly depending on the issue.
Adam Jensen Posted July 7, 2013 Posted July 7, 2013 Just tested it and there is something wrong with BOSS. I put Dawnguard below Dragonborn and it didn't fix it. Also it says that I don't have the latest SKSE version when I most certainly do.
visby Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 BOSS works fine with Mod Organizer. As long as people remember to launch it from Mod Organizer that is. I love Mod Organizer it's a great program.
RitualClarity Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Just tested it and there is something wrong with BOSS. I put Dawnguard below Dragonborn and it didn't fix it. Also it says that I don't have the latest SKSE version when I most certainly do. I tried boss with Wyre Bash it seems to work. I really don't have many mods just what the game comes with. Dawnguard, HearthFires etc. I flipped them with the UPdate esm etc. It was placed back in the original order. I don' t have NMM installed to test that. Yep both the external Command line as well as BOSS link in Wyre Bash works for me. Running version 300(standalone). Which manager are you using?
Adam Jensen Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Wait what is the latest Boss Version? I think I might have an outdated version.
RitualClarity Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Wait what is the latest Boss Version? I think I might have an outdated version. v2.1.1 Also keep in mind that not all mods are supported or updated on BOSS they have an incrediable amount of mods listed but not all of them. I usually test using the DLC's of a game to make sure my BOSS is working correctly. I am pretty sure that they have the DLC's listed correctly...
Adam Jensen Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 This is odd, I'm not using any mod manager. Why didn't it rearrange the official dlc?
Rayblue Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 This may explain why: http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1462361-relz-boss-for-skyrim/page-6?do=findComment&comment=22822875
Pork Type Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 BOSS sees only what it wants to see. Arranges only what it wants to arrange. "Oh, this bunch of Expert Modders knows what's right for my game. I'd better conform." To some extent, that's cool... ...
Captain Cobra Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Hence why you use BOSS as a first pass and then rearrange what needs to be rearranged.
Adam Jensen Posted July 8, 2013 Posted July 8, 2013 Hence why you use BOSS as a first pass and then rearrange what needs to be rearranged. Boss is a great tool for beginners. Once you get a bit of experience you can arrange the load order by yourself. I rearrange mine after boss's epic fail and it works like a charm.
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