Being a Cow (Alternate Version)

[botticelli]

7 hours ago, HerChianti said:

Another random question: How does the Body Build Bad Quest work? Paul says "get fatter" and to "eat and don't move", but script-wise how does the quest actually calculate this? I don't recall any weight gain mechanics unless I'm blind (besides the progress mootations making you fatter that I already have since I'm at 100% cow progress).

This quest is only available when your BAC weight score is below 25.0. When eating things, BAC adds up to that score and you finish the quest when you reach 40.0. (bac_watchdog.psc, Event OnObjectEquipped)

BACActor.SetCowFoodPoints(acActor, BACActor.GetCowFoodPoints(acActor) + 1)

 

[botticelli]

Btw. Regarding Paul' work quest. It seems that the quest objektive "take a seat and wait for service" is not displayed. I had the furniture appear nonetheless and it worked. The reason for this is that I left the objective in the main bac_blacksmith (aka Hammerheart) quest, but that does not like other quests activating its objectives. I'll move the objetive toi the workloop quest to hopefully have it work then.

[HerChianti]

3 hours ago, botticelli said:

I know. This has been a minor issue since skyrimfet's version. Since it isn't breaking things, I've put it on the list but have not reached it yet.

Ah alrighty, no worries. Nothing I post here actually bothers me. Just minor things I spot here and there to comment on! I can always avoid that quest until you fix it, it won't kill me ?

 

If I knew anything about programming at all I'd help you with fixing some of these issues faster but sadly I'm more of a photoshop user than a coder (hence why I can work my way around textures better than scripts)

 

3 hours ago, botticelli said:

This quest is only available when your BAC weight score is below 25.0. When eating things, BAC adds up to that score and you finish the quest when you reach 40.0. (bac_watchdog.psc, Event OnObjectEquipped)

BACActor.SetCowFoodPoints(acActor, BACActor.GetCowFoodPoints(acActor) + 1)

 

Oooooooh so I would normally never get this quest if I'm already thicc and very much fully transformed. Sorry then. I was just forcing them to start with the Debug settings to test them all out and spot bugs and whatnot.

Edited July 16, 2022 by HerChianti

[SilentOption]

18 hours ago, botticelli said:

This quest is only available when your BAC weight score is below 25.0. When eating things, BAC adds up to that score and you finish the quest when you reach 40.0. (bac_watchdog.psc, Event OnObjectEquipped)

BACActor.SetCowFoodPoints(acActor, BACActor.GetCowFoodPoints(acActor) + 1)

 

how can find out your BAC weight score

[shrtjsrtj]

Edit: started new game and seem to have no problems now.

Edited July 17, 2022 by shrtjsrtj

[botticelli]

4 hours ago, SilentOption said:

how can find out your BAC weight score

Top right on Milkmaid View in MCM

[asdfasers]

On 7/12/2022 at 10:47 PM, MysticDaedra said:

Use this patch to get MME to work with SLIF in SE (assuming that's the issue you're having...):

 

Wow, thanks!

[MysticDaedra]

@botticelli, I found a possible bug related to the removal of the curse (bovine aspect). Upon returning to human form, the right arm of my character seems to appear above and to the right of the screen when in first-person:

As you can see, even though both arms are up and in "attack position", all you can see of the right arm is a little sliver by the elbow, the rest is above and to the right. First happened after reverting back to human form via the quest.

 

EDIT: Also, I noticed that even though I've paid back Paul, I am still locked into the enslavement cycle. Is there no end to the enslavement scripted in yet?

Edited July 17, 2022 by MysticDaedra

[botticelli]

39 minutes ago, MysticDaedra said:

@botticelli, I found a possible bug related to the removal of the curse (bovine aspect). Upon returning to human form, the right arm of my character seems to appear above and to the right of the screen when in first-person:

As you can see, even though both arms are up and in "attack position", all you can see of the right arm is a little sliver by the elbow, the rest is above and to the right. First happened after reverting back to human form via the quest.

 

EDIT: Also, I noticed that even though I've paid back Paul, I am still locked into the enslavement cycle. Is there no end to the enslavement scripted in yet?

The arms position (also while doing a sex scene within the curse) was not correct, that has been corrected. Also the hand fur not disappearing correctly will be corrected. As for Paul's enslavement: no. You sold yourself or were auctioned off into life slavery, so there's no way out yet. Also while off the cow curse, the ritual cow evil quest may malfunction (it will no longer be spawned while not a cow in the next version).

[SilentOption]

One of the transformations seems to stretch out my character's stomach so looks like a stretch tuffy it's the one where she said she grew a second stomach. How do stop that or mesh to give her a cow stomach?

Edited July 17, 2022 by SilentOption

[HerChianti]

3 hours ago, botticelli said:

The arms position (also while doing a sex scene within the curse) was not correct, that has been corrected. Also the hand fur not disappearing correctly will be corrected. As for Paul's enslavement: no. You sold yourself or were auctioned off into life slavery, so there's no way out yet. Also while off the cow curse, the ritual cow evil quest may malfunction (it will no longer be spawned while not a cow in the next version).

May I interject and say that I'd much rather have more quests about the concept of being stuck as a cow forever and being a milk slave/breeding stock than focusing about a cure?

 

Like... a few ideas I had in my head for a while:

• More quests about being forced to lactate/give milk to others. You're a cow, your purpose is to lactate and feed the hungry bellies of Skyrim after all!

• Owner asks you to drink lactation potions because he thinks you aren't lactating enough milk (kind of like how the weight quest works but getting MME's milk per hour value, and if Paul doesn't like it then he feeds you potions or forces you to craft/get the potions until you're lactating enough for his liking). I kind of always wanted a potion that messed with the actual lactation per hour and increased it permanently rather than having lactacid that boosted it temporarily.

• Your owner forcing you to get pregnant, since you know, babies means more potential women to turn into cows and also you lactate more because preggers

• In general more non-consensual content geared towards the "slavery" part of the character's new life as Paul's property, you know?

 

Not really interested personally about a cure, but that's just my opinion. I'll respect whatever decision you make since it's your mod @botticelli. I just thought I'd give my two cents, since this is basically my favorite mod ever after MME itself and seeing more non-con cow/milk/preg content would be the cherry on top for me ?

Edited July 17, 2022 by HerChianti

[shrtjsrtj]

On 1.9F2 SE and stuck after the auction, Paul says he's going to milk me then nothing happens and he just walks back to Riverwood. There's no new quest pop ups and his only dialogue is about how he's too busy to give me shoes/gloves.

 

Tried running it through a few times, resetting bac_blacksmith then set to 10 and then 20 as the ref's were set to none after the auction(were fine before it) and waiting around for something to happen but no change.

 

What's supposed to happen here and is there any way to force progress?

[HerChianti]

Just start a new game with the updated version. Less chances of running into problems ?

[shrtjsrtj]

1 hour ago, HerChianti said:

Just start a new game with the updated version. Less chances of running into problems ?

I thought it was the latest SE version but looks like I was wrong.

 

Will Try H later, I'm a bit burnt out from redoing this quest over and over ATM.

[HerChianti]

32 minutes ago, shrtjsrtj said:

I thought it was the latest SE version but looks like I was wrong.

 

Will Try H later, I'm a bit burnt out from redoing this quest over and over ATM.

I get that. But honestly I love this mod so much that I'm willing to restart over and over to test, find and report bugs and whatnot. So it can be in the best shape possible.

[TheSecretAdmirer]

I had the previous non-alternate version of this mod installed, then saw this.

 

1. YES

2. Do I delete the old mod for this (make a clean mod-free save, or a new game entirely?)

3. When I get the mutations, my character is all blue, am I missing something (could someone explain in more detail?).

4. For some reason my slave tats has limited space now, decreased from before and it says it needs more to function?

5. Thank You!

Edited July 18, 2022 by TheSecretAdmirer

[botticelli]

8 hours ago, TheSecretAdmirer said:

2. Do I delete the old mod for this (make a clean mod-free save, or a new game entirely?)

See FAQ on the file page. You not only need to remove the mod (i. e. esp) but also the scripts. I don't guarantee any leftover character to still work with my version, since I use StorgeUtil and not those single value arrays. My version tries to recover your character if you do, but as I said, no guarantee.

8 hours ago, TheSecretAdmirer said:

3. When I get the mutations, my character is all blue, am I missing something (could someone explain in more detail?)

You need to download 2 files: 1.9H version *and* 1.9F tats. Without the tats, your character will appear blue. With the tats, see below.

8 hours ago, TheSecretAdmirer said:

4. For some reason my slave tats has limited space now, decreased from before and it says it needs more to function?

See FAQ on the file page. You probaly need to edit nioverride.ini (LE) or skee64.ini (SE, AE, VR) because BAC is greedy for overlay slots. It needs 13 body slots, 4 face slots, and 2 heands and feet slots each. If you plan on adding some more, you should really pump that up (like 30 body, 20 face/hands/feet). Also I recommend this mod to move your cum overlays to the higher slots to have it appear on top.

 

16 hours ago, HerChianti said:

Owner asks you to drink lactation potions because he thinks you aren't lactating enough milk (kind of like how the weight quest works but getting MME's milk per hour value, and if Paul doesn't like it then he feeds you potions or forces you to craft/get the potions until you're lactating enough for his liking). I kind of always wanted a potion that messed with the actual lactation per hour and increased it permanently rather than having lactacid that boosted it temporarily.

That he nearly does already. Well not ask, but force when you're late for your quest. I can optionally make the voluptuousness and enormous boobs potions increase lactation. I personally will not use that though, since I need to clear lactaction about every 2 game month in order for that not exceed max float value and become negative. Currently lactation in increased by BAC on these occasions:

• LactationBursts (cumulative, especially with a high chance in huge bursts, which is the reason I need to reset it every now and then)
• Captured Cow 1 cart scene
• Captured Cow 2 cellar scene
• SpontaneousMilk when on high Lactacid and BAC MCM option "Spontaneous Milk MME biased" is ticked

16 hours ago, HerChianti said:

Your owner forcing you to get pregnant, since you know, babies means more potential women to turn into cows and also you lactate more because preggers

Will not happen because I don't want to integrate all those pregnancy mods around.

 

Next up is a change in the de-cowing process where that popup is replaced by a messenger from Molag Bal. He will still let you get out (of cow), but no longer immediately.

 

17 hours ago, SilentOption said:

One of the transformations seems to stretch out my character's stomach so looks like a stretch tuffy it's the one where she said she grew a second stomach. How do stop that or mesh to give her a cow stomach?

CowBack1/2 prolong "NPC Spine1 [Spn1]" node. Depending on your body replacer this may look out of sorts when also gifted with a huge belly. With CosioHD it looks awsome, but I cannot test all the replacers out there. If it looks bad, disable it.

[SilentOption]

1 hour ago, botticelli said:

See FAQ on the file page. You not only need to remove the mod (i. e. esp) but also the scripts. I don't guarantee any leftover character to still work with my version, since I use StorgeUtil and not those single value arrays. My version tries to recover your character if you do, but as I said, no guarantee.

You need to download 2 files: 1.9H version *and* 1.9F tats. Without the tats, your character will appear blue. With the tats, see below.

See FAQ on the file page. You probaly need to edit nioverride.ini (LE) or skee64.ini (SE, AE, VR) because BAC is greedy for overlay slots. It needs 13 body slots, 4 face slots, and 2 heands and feet slots each. If you plan on adding some more, you should really pump that up (like 30 body, 20 face/hands/feet). Also I recommend this mod to move your cum overlays to the higher slots to have it appear on top.

 

That he nearly does already. Well not ask, but force when you're late for your quest. I can optionally make the voluptuousness and enormous boobs potions increase lactation. I personally will not use that though, since I need to clear lactaction about every 2 game month in order for that not exceed max float value and become negative. Currently lactation in increased by BAC on these occasions:

• LactationBursts (cumulative, especially with a high chance in huge bursts, which is the reason I need to reset it every now and then)
• Captured Cow 1 cart scene
• Captured Cow 2 cellar scene
• SpontaneousMilk when on high Lactacid and BAC MCM option "Spontaneous Milk MME biased" is ticked

Will not happen because I don't want to integrate all those pregnancy mods around.

 

Next up is a change in the de-cowing process where that popup is replaced by a messenger from Molag Bal. He will still let you get out (of cow), but no longer immediately.

 

CowBack1/2 prolong "NPC Spine1 [Spn1]" node. Depending on your body replacer this may look out of sorts when also gifted with a huge belly. With CosioHD it looks awsome, but I cannot test all the replacers out there. If it looks bad, disable it.

how do I disable it

[botticelli]

12 minutes ago, SilentOption said:

how do I disable it

Go to 2nd BAC MCM Mutation targets and set CowBack1 to Nobody.

[HerChianti]

3 hours ago, botticelli said:

since I need to clear lactaction about every 2 game month in order for that not exceed max float value and become negative.

What's the max float value for lactation then? That never happened to me and I had pretty high values a few times.

 

As for the pregnancy mods, can't you just make a quest where Paul forces himself on you, so basically to trigger an actual sex scene (with the vaginal and creampie tags) and that's it? That way you don't need to integrate any mod, SexLab will do the rest once the animation's triggered.

Edited July 18, 2022 by HerChianti

[LatencyRemix]

19 hours ago, HerChianti said:

drink lactation potions because he thinks you aren't lactating enough milk

If you want more milk easily, Try out Lact Tat mod, it will give you MME potions hourly, 1-20 taken at a time, can also use console to set the timer to every second,  MME BASE breast level also changes the amount of milk the charater makes, its default silder only allows to 3.0 max but you can get around it .  so IE the maid's breast base is 1, then you get 1 milk per hour, vs is you get it to 10.0 you get many milks per hour with out lactacids

[botticelli]

1 hour ago, HerChianti said:

What's the max float value for lactation then? That never happened to me and I had pretty high values a few times.

somewhere near 2147000000.00, probably 2^31 - 1 as float. I imagine this value is no problem on SE since that's 64bit.

 

1 hour ago, LatencyRemix said:

If you want more milk easily, Try out Lact Tat mod, it will give you MME potions hourly, 1-20 taken at a time, can also use console to set the timer to every second,  MME BASE breast level also changes the amount of milk the charater makes, its default silder only allows to 3.0 max but you can get around it .  so IE the maid's breast base is 1, then you get 1 milk per hour, vs is you get it to 10.0 you get many milks per hour with out lactacids

Another option is Skyrim UtilOne. You can make configs to feed you any type of potion on sex start/orgasm/end (max. 8 each).

 

1 hour ago, HerChianti said:

As for the pregnancy mods, can't you just make a quest where Paul forces himself on you, so basically to trigger an actual sex scene (with the vaginal and creampie tags) and that's it? That way you don't need to integrate any mod, SexLab will do the rest once the animation's triggered.

Well, if you are on his good side, I'd prefer not to. But on the evil side this could just be a "quest reward", no need to make an extra quest for that.

[HerChianti]

36 minutes ago, botticelli said:

Well, if you are on his good side, I'd prefer not to. But on the evil side this could just be a "quest reward", no need to make an extra quest for that.

That's alright. I'm happy with anything you decide tbh since you're the reason we can have this mod at all nowadays. A "quest reward" for evil Paul sounds good actually!

[LinksSword]

@botticellican you post a screenshot of what the new mutations look like please? 

CowBack1 and that.

[masterofgamespl]

So I got this thing that when I talk with Paul about adding extra protection for hooves etc. I get the message BAC workloop already running and nothing happens next.