Invincibility bug

[GalaSeraph]

Hello there,

I have a little issue with an unknown source for something that causes me to go invincible in the middle of a playthrough, I don't know what causes it and im a bit to far past the point of returning to a previous safe, but stuff I've tested so far to fix it are as follows:

dispelallspells - doesn't work.
kill - can't kill myself via commands (or other means)
try to see which effect on me keeps myself invincible - its not a visible one in the buffs menu and in the console im too dumb to figure it out.
try to engage in a scene - doesn't reset the invincibility
try to reset/restore/clean sexlab, yamete, defeats and slhh - none of these worked.
resurrect - this works and restores my mortality, but comes at the caveat of removing every (unique) passive buff i've previously acquired, removes race passives and other mod related visible buffs.

here is the load order in case there is something that is obviously wrong with it:
 

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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
Heels Sound.esm
3DNPC.esp
Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm
RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
FISS.esp
BSAssets.esm
Dwarfsphere.esp
BSHeartland.esm
RaceCompatibility.esm
TeraElinRace.esm
BS_DLC_patch.esp
Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
High Poly Head.esm
SGEyebrows.esp
FlowerGirls SE.esm
SexLab.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Glenmoril.esm
Haem Projects Goblands.esp
SkyUI_SE.esp
WARZONES - SSE - Civil Unrest.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
ELFX - Weathers.esp
TrueStormsSE.esp
Obsidian Weathers.esp
Dragon Stalking Fix.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
fallentreebridgesSSE.esp
S3DTrees NextGenerationForests.esp
FloraRespawnFix.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
JKs Skyrim.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
3BBB.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
RaceMenuElinEarsPlugin.esp
TeraElinEyes.esp
Fire Keeper - Skimpy.esp
YunDao_Hdt_Hair.esp
KSHairdosSMP.esp
[TheMilkDrinker] NiseDovaArmor.esp
TBD - NiseDovaArmor.esp
aMidianBorn_Book of Silence.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AddItemMenuSE.esp
BlendedRoads.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Medium Script Range.esp
Footprints.esp
Diversity - A Character Overhaul.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Bijin AIO.esp
IW_Diversity_Patch.esp
Bijin Warmaidens.esp
Bijin NPCs.esp
Bijin Wives.esp
3DNPC0.esp
USSEP-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
IW_Bijin_Patch.esp
S3DLandscapes NextGenerationForests.esp
LoS II - JKs Skyrim patch.esp
Blowing in the Wind.esp
Blowing in the Wind - ELFX Exteriors Patch.esp
icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
ZIA_Complete Pack.esp
Blowing in the Wind - JK's Skyrim Patch.esp
Skyrim Better Roads and Bridges - All In One - Merged.esp
Realistic Death Physics - No Animations - Skyrim.esp
XPMSE.esp
WetandCold.esp
Obsidian_TS_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp
Wet&Cold - WaterFix - Addon.esp
True Storms - Obsidian Weathers - Patch .esp
Facelight.esp
beltfastenedquivers.esp
QuickLight.esp
RaceMenuHH.esp
BD Armor and clothes replacer.esp
CBBE.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
50 More Perk Points.esp
Perk Points at Skill Levels 50-75-100.esp
Thief skills rebalance for Ordinator.esp
Serana Re-Imagined.esp
Nun Knight Armor.esp
[Melodic] Drake Huntress_CBBE SE.esp
DLC1FLL.esp
DLC2FLL.esp
FeminizedLevelLists.esp
FNIS.esp
Roswitha Follower.esp
SteadfastValkynazFollower.esp
Valkynaz Follower.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
BaboInteractiveDia.esp
LoS II - Lantern Workers.esp
FloatingSwordFollower.esp
Colorful_Magic_SE.esp
waterplants.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
Yamete.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
LoS II - CRF patch.esp
JKs Skyrim_3D Trees_Patch.esp
SOS - Shop.esp
DibellaStatuesFixes.esp
ForgottenCity.esp
SexLab Approach.esp
tpos_forgottencity_entrance.esp
Darkend.esp
The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp
TAWOBA Remastered Leveled List.esp
moresmeltables.esp
Map Markers Complete.esp
CyrilThePorter.esp
LoS II - SMIM patch.esp
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch.esp
VisualAnimatedEnchants.esp
SkeeverDaumbraPatch.esp
Mona Follower.esp
Nina_Follower.esp
Freya_DualSwords.esp
EroSeleneArmor.esp
Sofia Remastered SE.esp
ForgottenCityBruma.esp
Dibellan Baths.esp
AUTOMATON_GLOW.esp
Magnolia Follower.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
Tongues.esp
Customizable Camera.esp
SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
sr_FillHerUp.esp
SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SLACS.esp
All Geared Up Derivative.esp
TBD - NiseKardiaArmor.esp
Kardia of Rhodes.esp
[Christine] Street Kunoichi.esp
DS Gwynevere's Set.esp
OthersDaughter.esp
Fresh Women Darkness.esp
DSerCombatGameplayOverhaul.esp
High Poly Head Vampire Fix.esp
QuietBetterJumpingCGO.esp
DX Dark Knight Armor.esp
LazyHeels.esp
DX Dark Knight Armor & Shield.esp
DX Dark Knight Shield.esp
SexLab Extra Voices.esp
(Pumpkin)-TEWOBA-TheExpandedWorldofBikiniArmor.esp
Tullius Hair 3 96.esp
Gray_Raven_ayla_Outfit(ESL).esp
DM BDOR Sephia by Team TAL.esp
WetFunction.esp
[COCO]Raikou_CBBE SE.esp
[COCO]Deliciously_Bride_Full_CBBE SE.esp
Elven Princess.esp
[NINI]Black evening dress.esp
HandgunsOfSkyrim.esp
ChampionofAzura.esp
The_Sinister_Seven.esp
Succubus Heart.esp
SofiaHideTrackingMarker.esp
Forgotten City Music Fix.esp
[Tullius]Drakengard3_Zero(NierRIver)_outfit.esp
[NINI] Deified.esp
Shuten_Follower.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
MaximumCarnage.esp
MiniBikini.esp
TeraSuccubusArmor.esp
sztkUtil.esp
CyrilThePorter-RusticClothes.esp
TN_Achan.esp
URAA-SF-02Weronika.esp
[Christine] Floral Night Dress.esp
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp
Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp
Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
TCIY_CRF_Patch.esp
Landscape For Grass Mods -Immersive Citizens PATCH.esp
RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
RDO - USSEP Patch.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
Alternate Start - Bruma.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp
Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

appreciate any input on how to get it fixed of if there is a obvious standout thing that is otherwise known to cause that issue.
 

[woodsman30]

More than likely your hair mods is doing it very common problem hair physics causes issues as the game progresses

[sad rabbit]

already tryed this? https://towawot.blogspot.com/2016/07/hdt-invisibility-fix.html

[GalaSeraph]

 

6 hours ago, sad rabbit said:

already tryed this? https://towawot.blogspot.com/2016/07/hdt-invisibility-fix.html

Its about invincibility, not invisibility. I can see myself, but I can't die.

[Dorabella]

In the player menu, check that you don't have infinite life (it should be 9999) if so, you have the cause

8 hours ago, GalaxySeraph said:

bit to far past the point of returning to a previous safe,

 

I would also check that it is not something in equipment. If, you have something that excessively boosts regeneration, dying will be next to impossible .

For instance . There is a sword (Yotohatamomba) that has this infinite power. You lose 10 HP, and you get 20 HP back. Dying is almost impossible

 

try increasing the game difficulty

 

Try  in console by activating / deactivating TGM

[GalaSeraph]

53 minutes ago, Lestat1627 said:

In the player menu, check that you don't have infinite life (it should be 9999) if so, you have the cause

 

I would also check that it is not something in equipment. If, you have something that excessively boosts regeneration, dying will be next to impossible .

For instance . There is a sword (Yotohatamomba) that has this infinite power. You lose 10 HP, and you get 20 HP back. Dying is almost impossible

 

try increasing the game difficulty

 

Try  in console by activating / deactivating TGM

Any damage I take that would usually kill me just puts me into a negative health state, I can survive enemies attacking me, dropping form great heights for tens of thousands of damage and drowning doesnt kill either nor does using player.kill / clicking on myself and kill work in the console commands to kill me, it's like my character refuses to go into the bleedout state. And I've already checked for TGM, its not that.

[Dorabella]

4 hours ago, GalaxySeraph said:

And I've already checked for TGM, its not that.

I thought as a possible solution, maybe turning it on and off would fix the bug . One solution could be; Start a new game e. doing absolutely nothing, wait for the complete loading of MCM, then move on to the saved game . 

[Pamatronic]

14 hours ago, woodsman30 said:

More than likely your hair mods is doing it very common problem hair physics causes issues as the game progresses

Da Fuck have you been smoking?

 

5 hours ago, GalaxySeraph said:

Any damage I take that would usually kill me just puts me into a negative health state

Sound like the "deferred kill" -state to me. https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=StartDeferredKill_-_Actor

This is used by some Dealth alternative or Defeat mods. (most notably Daymoyl)

 

Youd have to call EndDeferredKill() to resolve this.

Unfortunately, there´s no console command for this, so youd have to write a small papyrus script to do that.

[Tlam99]

Grace period of death. Therecare a couple of mods modifying this.

Or did you you setav, modav commands ?

 

[Pamatronic]

1 hour ago, Lestat1627 said:

One solution could be; Start a new game e. doing absolutely nothing, wait for the complete loading of MCM, then move on to the saved game . 

How do you manage to always come up with nonsense like this?

[GalaSeraph]

2 hours ago, Pamatronic said:

Da Fuck have you been smoking?

 

Sound like the "deferred kill" -state to me. https://www.creationkit.com/index.php?title=StartDeferredKill_-_Actor

This is used by some Dealth alternative or Defeat mods. (most notably Daymoyl)

 

Youd have to call EndDeferredKill() to resolve this.

Unfortunately, there´s no console command for this, so youd have to write a small papyrus script to do that.

Oh well, tried to get the mods to trigger their line, tried to remove the mods that I know that would have the line and without knowing how to compile a script that would play the line, I'll guess I'll cut my losses and opt for the resurrect option that fixes the issue but removes my MGEFs/Spells.

At least I'll now know what to look out for to check if things break for the future.

[woodsman30]

4 hours ago, Pamatronic said:

Da Fuck have you been smoking?

Not smoking it was Christmas and Johnnie Walker came over and he was feeling blue so I miss read sue me.

[nilead]

 Had a similar immortality problem quite a while back, in my case it was caused by Defeat going FUBAR. Had to wipe it clean with fallrim tools and reinstall. But for me i could enter bleedout, just not die, and toggling "on bleedout"/cleaning/resetting Defeat didnt help.

 Then again, it really might be easier to just console back in passives. Definetly more reliable.

[Dorabella]

6 hours ago, Pamatronic said:

How do you manage to always come up with nonsense like this?

And how do you always respond by saying bullshit ????  Who do you think you are ???? The Eternal Father ????

NEVER allow yourself AGAIN

 

If you think you are so good at solving problems, why not come up with solutions, which you haven't done yet . 

Instead of making crazy comments, propose a solution, assuming you have one, what, I very much doubt . Also, I am not aware that you were able to solve anything . 

[Tlam99]

6 hours ago, GalaxySeraph said:

At least I'll now know what to look out for to check if things break for the future.

try this

Spell tome craftable at forge 1 leather strip.

This should end the deferred effect.

FE flagged. If it works, I put it to mods, so everyone can find it.

 

DebugPlayerDeferred.7z

 

[Pamatronic]

7 hours ago, Lestat1627 said:

If you think you are so good at solving problems, why not come up with solutions, which you haven't done yet . 

Instead of making crazy comments, propose a solution, assuming you have one, what, I very much doubt . Also, I am not aware that you were able to solve anything . 

May I point you towards post #8 ?

Not only did I propose a solution, I proposed the CORRECT solution.

 

And as long as you keep going around spewing uninformed nonsense, I will ALLOW myself to call you out for it.

[donttouchmethere]

On 12/25/2021 at 1:16 PM, GalaxySeraph said:

SexLabDefeat.esp

That would be the first place to check with issues like that.

SL Defeat likes to get stuck or doesn't finishes scenes correctly.

Check the most important function of SL defeat: in MCM look for the debug function named something like "clean defeat". That often helps already, if not also check your save via Fallrimtools if something needs cleaning after a sl defeat scene.

 

Early in game you don't have much HP thus you can get multiple defeats in a row, which probably will confuse defeat. In that case rise HP needed to get into bleedout to give defeat a bit more time to react. Later you can lower the defeat hp range again.

Same goes for all other SL defeat settings. From my not so fresh memories about sl defeat: it gets better later ingame, until it fucks up again.

Remember to clean your sl defeat regularly via MCM.

[Grey Cloud]

Defeat can be tricky but don't let it beat you. ?

[donttouchmethere]

On 12/25/2021 at 1:16 PM, GalaxySeraph said:

yamete, defeats and slhh - none of these

Ahhhh, how many combat defeat mods are you running at the same time?

Why are you so mean to yourself? You don't let them trigger all at the same time, right? O.o

You are braver than it seems. ^^

 

3 minutes ago, Grey Cloud said:

Defeat can be tricky but don't let it beat you. ?

Above all, don't let it defeat you ^^

[Heroine HoneyCrotch]

I thought I had encountered this bug when I had first started playing Skyrim, on my end it turned out to be Im just fucking all sorts of badass and shit. Undisputed champ! Can't be beat! 

 

@OP sorry if already mentioned, have you tried running a script cleaner on your most current save file? 

[Dorabella]

4 hours ago, Pamatronic said:

And as long as you keep going around spewing uninformed nonsense,

Know that I have solved some problems, with things that, in your opinion, are nonsense . 

 

4 hours ago, Pamatronic said:

Not only did I propose a solution, I proposed the CORRECT solution.

 

Let's see what you suggest

[GalaSeraph]

16 hours ago, Tlam99 said:

try this

Spell tome craftable at forge 1 leather strip.

This should end the deferred effect.

FE flagged. If it works, I put it to mods, so everyone can find it.

 

DebugPlayerDeferred.7z 1.34 kB · 3 downloads

 

Ok, I kept a save from before the state i used the resurrect to reset my state, this mod works beautifully, quick spell cast, easy to get and it instantly fixes the issue, which confirms that its the deferred state that kept me alive.

On the other hand, I tried this without success:

 

On 12/26/2021 at 3:35 AM, Lestat1627 said:

I thought as a possible solution, maybe turning it on and off would fix the bug . One solution could be; Start a new game e. doing absolutely nothing, wait for the complete loading of MCM, then move on to the saved game . 

Not going to hold judgement to say that it never works, but In this case for this issue it didn't.

 

tried this too:

18 hours ago, nilead said:

 Had a similar immortality problem quite a while back, in my case it was caused by Defeat going FUBAR. Had to wipe it clean with fallrim tools and reinstall. But for me i could enter bleedout, just not die, and toggling "on bleedout"/cleaning/resetting Defeat didnt help.

 Then again, it really might be easier to just console back in passives. Definetly more reliable.

But using the MCMs internal clean function didn't do the trick.


What I assume happened is that my summons from Fresh Women Darkness.esp  tried to trigger a scene on me but just went poof as the timer went out, leaving me in that state, but in the current playthrough as a mage, I just haven't noticed until it was too late.

[belegost]

9 hours ago, Lestat1627 said:

Know that I have solved some problems, with things that, in your opinion, are nonsense . 

 

Let's see what you suggest

 

Do you also like to ask people if they go to Cloud District very often? 

[Dorabella]

5 hours ago, belegost said:

Do you also like to ask people if they go to Cloud District very often? 

Expressing judgments on the opinions of others when you do not have better suggestions, does not seem to me to be the case. If, you have an alternative to propose either, you propose it, or keep quiet .  

And, I don't think anyone has solved the problem, perhaps because nobody has it or, they never have. So the answer is simple: trial and error. When and if it comes up, it will probably be useful to others as well. When I get a problem and, I find a solution, I put it on my blog which is free to access, to share it with everyone, and this, so as not to lose it.
If, there will also be in this case, I will post it in the blog so as not to lose it in the maze of the threads, so it will always be sorted together with the other bugs that I solved . 

 

As I said before, learn not to make judgments when you have nothing to say. In my country it is called "Giving air to the teeth"

 

8 hours ago, GalaxySeraph said:

Not going to hold judgement to say that it never works, but In this case for this issue it didn't

With me, it worked 2/3 times, maybe they were more trivial cases, but trying it costs nothing, doing it all again yes

[lizardbutts]

On 12/26/2021 at 7:43 AM, Tlam99 said:

try this

Spell tome craftable at forge 1 leather strip.

This should end the deferred effect.

FE flagged. If it works, I put it to mods, so everyone can find it.

 

DebugPlayerDeferred.7z 1.34 kB · 7 downloads

 

Heya, lurker here with the same issue as our OP friend. I wanted to give your little fix a shot but it's giving me a CTD whenever I pass the loading screen. Any ideas?