Stuttering caused by SexoutCommonResources.esm

[Halstrom]

 

 

I completely forgot about the 4gb launcher so I'll start using that, and I changed the fps cap in stutter remover like you suggested. 

 

What finally fixed my problem though was rolling back pregnancy and SCR. I took your advice and went back to the 03/25 versions of those mods and everything seems to be working now! 

 

Thank you kindly, Mr.Wayne. 

 

Where can one get a hold of those? I seem to be having the same problem myself.

 

2nd post of SCR/Pregnancy support threads

[BruceWayne]

 

 

I completely forgot about the 4gb launcher so I'll start using that, and I changed the fps cap in stutter remover like you suggested. 

 

What finally fixed my problem though was rolling back pregnancy and SCR. I took your advice and went back to the 03/25 versions of those mods and everything seems to be working now! 

 

Thank you kindly, Mr.Wayne. 

 

Where can one get a hold of those? I seem to be having the same problem myself.

 

 

Seriously?

[Astaroth-Lite]

 

Seriously?

 

It's my first day.

[BruceWayne]

Take a good look at the post you quoted. You must have deleted my post from that since it was part of Snowmans post. It contained all the links. For christ's sake, the links are at the very top of every page of this thread.

[Astaroth-Lite]

Take a good look at the post you quoted. You must have deleted my post from that since it was part of Snowmans post. It contained all the links. For christ's sake, the links are at the very top of every page of this thread.

 

Well thank you, sweetie; in all my excitement I tend to rush things. I would say I promise to never let it happen again, but I can't keep that promise.

 

[Edit] And all that embarrassment for nothing as that didn't seem to help me in my case. Well, it was worth a shot either way.

[prideslayer]

If this means I'm gonna have to disable or work around the torn clothing swapping in sofo again until the optional plugin is up & running, I'll tear my hair out.

Also, SCR lite is probably gonna need the same name as SCR, so that items added to its formlists suddenly aren't in there anymore (thinking of clothing eval, but there's bound to be other stuff).

I don't know what it means to SOFO, but I will take a look. There *is* no more swapping in this version though, torn clothing or otherwise.

 

I've slashed and burned SCR down to 78K from 3M. Everything not referenced internally (and some things that were, just in scripts or formlists) by SCR, or externally by tryouts has been removed. Slavery and sewerslave were modified to not require it as a master.

 

I've changed the name (to SSR / SexoutSharedResources.esm) because I *know* it's going to break, or is at least very likely to break, any other mods currently using SCR. I don't have the time or energy to look into *every* sexout mod and see what SCR resources they're actually using out of the thousands that are in it -- just cleaning it up for tryouts, slavery, and workinggirl took several hours.

 

However since it's just a trimmed down copy of SCR anyway, anything critical that is missing can simply be reinjected/copied over. Finding missing stuff is fairly easy with fnvedit. Load the mod in question, SCR, and SSR as well. Check the mod for errors, change the master to SSR, and then check agian. Whatever new errors crop up are going to be for missing things.

[DoctaSax]

Well, the clothing swapping scenes would be easy to temporarily disable, the rest (clothing eval formlists, drugs like bunaway, the fLust variable in the SexoutSQVARZ quests) are quite spread out. And there's also the need for SOLust & clothing eval as 'soft' masters, so I couldn't really make the switch until they have alternatives too.

 

Don't get me wrong: I agree SCR can use some trimming down, but I do use quite a few things in it. I was gonna add pregnancy as a master anyhow eventually so most of the preg-related items should be covered, but am hoping that if the torn clothing swap is moved to a different esp, I don't have to add that as a master just to read the variable telling me if it's on or not, same as with Lust?

 

[prideslayer]

TBH, those variables should probably just be using NX instead. I thought Chase updated the lust mod to use NX vars anyway.. e.g. someref.NX_SetEVFl 'sexout::lust:lustval' 1.5, or whatever. The only thing NX vars can't do that quest vars can do, is be used in conditionals in dialogs/anims/other geck dropdowns, and that is something I am going to fix in the next NX release which will probably be tonight or tomorrow.

 

I honestly have no idea what the torn clothing swapper does (I thought it was pregnancy related), or how it relates to lust.

 

As I said, any quest vars or the like that are truly things that belong in SCR that I have axed can very easily and quickly be added back in through fnvedit.

 

SSR (the lightweight SCR replacement) will have it's own thread before too long and we can move the discussion there. Also, there is no reason you can't run both of them side by side, it should work just fine for as long as is needed.

 

IMHO there is more in SCR that doesn't belong there than does, a lot more, and the effects it's having on gameplay have reached a point with me that is just not tolerable any longer. Hal and I have discussed it, and I have the related authors blessings to make the changes I'm making to the other mods.

[prideslayer]

Ok, SSR and the modified mods are up in the NG beta release thread, so we can move that part of this discussion there.. sorry for crapping all over a support thread, I'm a jerk.

[johnmcderp]

 

I have this kind of problem as well. On certain days in the game the game would go on regular agonizing stutters, and it only happens when I have SCR enabled (I used to think it was Pregnancy that's causing the problem but it turns out it's not). It's strange though because the first version of SCR I've tried did not exhibit any stuttering.

 

I do have one workaround for this, however --- just wait/sleep and wait for the current day to pass. It's strange why that fixes the problem (I don't know why) but if it fixes it temporarily, I don't really care.

 

I'm on the latest beta versions of SCR and Pregnancy right now and the stuttering still persists by the way.

 

Do you by any chance use Project Reality or the aforementioned population mods? I blamed my stutter on SCR too, until I deactivated PR. It runs some heavy scripts as it seems, that can massively reduce framerate. After getting rid of that, I don't have any stutter problems. SCR might have some more scripts than it ought to have, but it isn't as bad as I originally thought, in terms of performance.

 

I'm telling you this, because the waiting fixed some issues with PR too. Certain weathers allowed me 60 fps, whereas other scenarios would break my game down to 25-30 fps, no matter if I was indoors, outdoors, etc.

 

 

Damn, I do have PR installed, as well as Populated Casinos (to help make Sexout WorkingGirl more effective). I'll try keeping PR on a static weather system and see if that fixes the stuttering. If that doesn't help I guess I'll just remove PR completely and maybe try another weather mod.

 

[BruceWayne]

 

Damn, I do have PR installed, as well as Populated Casinos (to help make Sexout WorkingGirl more effective). I'll try keeping PR on a static weather system and see if that fixes the stuttering. If that doesn't help I guess I'll just remove PR completely and maybe try another weather mod.

 

 

 

Prideslayer released a new version of SOWorkingGirl in the Sexout Beta thread. It's part of the new SSR (SexoutSharedResources), which is a SCR replacer whithout all the bells and whistles. Try those, before you get rid of it.

 

Having to ditch PR is really bugging me, as it is my favorite weather mod. I haven't yet checked the Nexus forums and comments, so maybe there are some solutions to the framerate drops there. Static weather could be one possible solution (allthough what's the point of the mod now?), but you should definitely disable PR motion blur and DoF as well. My computer is on the older side, so maybe it's just me.

[brocules]

I'm running Project Reality, Populated Casinos and most of the up-to-date Sexout mods and I haven't any stuttering issues. I do remember that for many people using Project Reality, the Subtle DoF effect caused serious performance issues. And if I recall correctly by default it isn't checked in the MCM options but it's still hogging resources, and someone going through all the settings in hopes of un-murdering their framerate discovered that checking and then unchecking the Subtle DoF effect solved the issue.

[BruceWayne]

I'm running Project Reality, Populated Casinos and most of the up-to-date Sexout mods and I haven't any stuttering issues. I do remember that for many people using Project Reality, the Subtle DoF effect caused serious performance issues. And if I recall correctly by default it isn't checked in the MCM options but it's still hogging resources, and someone going through all the settings in hopes of un-murdering their framerate discovered that checking and then unchecking the Subtle DoF effect solved the issue.

 

Interesting. I will check this out. As I said, it was really painful to let PR go, because imo it's the best looking (and sounding) weather mod out there.

[ChancellorKremlin]

Yeah, I never got any stuttering from Project Reality, rePopulatedWasteland or Populated Casinos either, and this was a while ago with my antuiquated machine. Decrease performance, sure, but not the stuttering we're talking about, which only got worse and worse and worse the more you played.

[BruceWayne]

Stuttering wasn't really my problem with PR either, it was severely reduced FPS. I'm talking from 50+ fps to maybe half of that, give or take.

 

[brocules]

I went ahead and read some comments on the PR nexus page and it seems the issue was a steady FPS drop when using the DoF. So it might not help with the stuttering OP is experiencing.

[johnmcderp]

I don't have any of the PR effects enabled (Subtle DOF, Motion Blur, Heat Haze). Only the Dark Wasteland is turned on just so that Electrocity could actually be useful.

 

But yeah, I'll go ahead and try the new beta version of WorkingGirl as well as Sexout Shared Resources.

[Ristelle]

Just a little update post in case it helps anyone - Since rolling back Pregnancy and SCR the stuttering has been completely solved. I've even added a few more mods like Nevada Skies and Increased Wasteland Spawns without issue.

[Halstrom]

Pregnancy & SCR are both large in scripts and can both be get script heavy if all the options & features are active, I think we are just reaching the limit of the NV engine can handle for some people, there was also a thread here recently that showed NV actually was running worse on multi-cored computers unless settings were changed in the ini file. I've been looking to see if there's anything obvious causing the issue and what I can remove & slowdown and made a few minor changes and testing now hopefully for beta release today. My plan then is to put SCR on a weight loss program firstly moving the Drugs & Disease out of SCR into a seperate plugin. Prideslayer is also releasing a "Lite" version of SCR called SSR for those who just want to run some of the simpler Plugins.

[johnmcderp]

Just a question, if I replace SCR right now with SSR, will Pregnancy still work? Like, will most of the basic functionalities still be there?

[prideslayer]

No. SSR as it is now will completely break pregnancy. The new version I will have up in a few hours will completely break it as well. There is core functionality for pregnancy in SCR that just doesn't belong there.

[KinkieGurl]

Let me add my two-cent worth.

 

I had similar issues:

- approaching large potential sexual activity hubs like the NCR camp at Primm or the NCRCF (PowderGanger Sexout plugin was active) caused the game to stutter: first, it was just a momentary freeze, then, as I got closer and closer, the duration of those lock-ups increased to 3 to 5 seconds, recurring every 10 seconds or so;

- removing the PowderGanger Sexout plugin improved the situation a bit, but the stuttering returned near populated areas;

 

My solution:

- Clean save, and I replaced the .ESM file from SexoutCommonResources-20130525.1 with the .ESM from SexoutCommonResources-20130328.1. No stuttering ever since, not counting the normal texture load lag.