Private Needs

[Fredas]

I recently made a plea for someone familiar with mesh editing to fix the clutter object used by Private Needs, which is fine visually but suffers from dealbreaking physics and collision issues.  I think it's something that desperately needs to be addressed, at the very least for the sake of the eventual update to Private Needs.  Would be a shame if this object remains just a broken curiosity.

 

[ZaZ]

I recently made a plea for someone familiar with mesh editing to fix the clutter object used by Private Needs, which is fine visually but suffers from dealbreaking physics and collision issues.  I think it's something that desperately needs to be addressed, at the very least for the sake of the eventual update to Private Needs.  Would be a shame if this object remains just a broken curiosity.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/29731-could-someone-fix-this-object-mesh-once-and-for-all/?do=findComment&comment=742399

[Molevalence]

Anyone having a issue where you try to bathe and when you cast the bathe spell and it pauses for a brief moment and nothing happens? Also when my character urinates/defecates she hovers in the air with her hands behind her back. That still works using the outhouses but bathing seems broken for me.

[Fredas]

Question: Has anyone actually had PrivateNeeds-RND do what it's intended to?  On my end, when I enable it, the only thing that happens is the bowels stop filling under any circumstance - no matter what I eat, how long I wait, or whether the slider is at 0 or 60.  It's difficult to judge whether or not urine builds up more quickly when drinking (as intended, according to the info), but it seems not.

 

This is kind of important since I'm trying to wrap another mod around these functions and everything depends upon deciphering just what this mod is actually intended to do.  I even set up a notification to monitor the variables which supposedly dictate the bowel / bladder enhancements, but they both sit tight at 0.0.

 

[Fredfish]

Anyone having a issue where you try to bathe and when you cast the bathe spell and it pauses for a brief moment and nothing happens? Also when my character urinates/defecates she hovers in the air with her hands behind her back. That still works using the outhouses but bathing seems broken for me.

 

1. In order to bathe you have to be standing in water at least ankle deep and NOT swimming (also some small streams dont seeem to work).

 

2. Are you using the Privacy setting? If so, your character wont bathe if anyone can see them (this should give a notification in the top left of the screen).

 

3. Asuming you have the Zaz animation pack correctly installed. There are different animations available for both males and females in the MCM (try setting anim 1 or  2)

[Molevalence]

Yes I am aware of the areas you can bathe in and privacy settings if they are enabled. I usually bathe my character near waterfalls and large lakes or rivers. The animation packs are installed correctly as far as I know. The bathing animation just wont start/register. I does not even give me the option to use soap, the screen just goes blank for a moment then nothing happens.

1. In order to bathe you have to be standing in water at least ankle deep and NOT swimming (also some small streams dont seeem to work).

 

2. Are you using the Privacy setting? If so, your character wont bathe if anyone can see them (this should give a notification in the top left of the screen).

 

3. Asuming you have the Zaz animation pack correctly installed. There are different animations available for both males and females in the MCM (try setting anim 1 or  2)

 

[Fredfish]

Did you register the zaz animation pack in MCM?

[TimM9959]

Hello richard

 

I really like your mod adds to the immersion of the game. just one problem for me though, there doesent seem to be an animation for male peeing and pooping.  he just stands there while a puddle forms under his feet like a woman is pissing and the feces comes out but he just stands there. he's not stiff or anything just standing. I have the zaz animations installed and have run fores all before I played but nothing happens he undresses and  he does like I mentioned. Is the out house mod really required? I am not a modder but I did find an outhouse mod someone else made will that work? I also have basic needs (eat drink sleep bathe) installed as well is that mod somehow a conflict?

[Molevalence]

Yes I did. No such luck. Sorry for the late reply.

Did you register the zaz animation pack in MCM?

 

[dovahderp26]

Hello, I have a problem and wasnt sure where to go about asking it. I have all the required mods installed and in my skyrim data folder and whenever i go to start skyrim it shows the bethesda screen but shuts down right after. Im not sure whats wrong but I cant even do anything now. Please help! D:

[hryh23k9823u]

Question: Has anyone actually had PrivateNeeds-RND do what it's intended to?  On my end, when I enable it, the only thing that happens is the bowels stop filling under any circumstance - no matter what I eat, how long I wait, or whether the slider is at 0 or 60.  It's difficult to judge whether or not urine builds up more quickly when drinking (as intended, according to the info), but it seems not.

 

This is kind of important since I'm trying to wrap another mod around these functions and everything depends upon deciphering just what this mod is actually intended to do.  I even set up a notification to monitor the variables which supposedly dictate the bowel / bladder enhancements, but they both sit tight at 0.0.

 

I remember have tried it once, it doesn't work. For example bowels stop filling like you said.

[Fredas]

 

Question: Has anyone actually had PrivateNeeds-RND do what it's intended to?  On my end, when I enable it, the only thing that happens is the bowels stop filling under any circumstance - no matter what I eat, how long I wait, or whether the slider is at 0 or 60.  It's difficult to judge whether or not urine builds up more quickly when drinking (as intended, according to the info), but it seems not.

 

This is kind of important since I'm trying to wrap another mod around these functions and everything depends upon deciphering just what this mod is actually intended to do.  I even set up a notification to monitor the variables which supposedly dictate the bowel / bladder enhancements, but they both sit tight at 0.0.

 

I remember have tried it once, it doesn't work. For example bowels stop filling like you said.

 

 

I was coming back here to confirm my own tests, ie that it fails to enhance bladder filling and stops bowel filling altogether.  It's a relief (of sorts) to hear confirmation.  A shame.  This was to be a somewhat noteworthy facet of what I'm modding.

 

If I could manage to get a better handle on how PrivateNeeds-RND is implemented and why it fails, I could try fixing it.

[bruce142]

The latest version of W.A.T.E.R. (Water and Terrain Enhancement Redux) (2.01 +) includes a patch for RND (Realistic Needs and Diseases) and it also works for PrivateNeeds, there is no need for the PrivateNeeds-RND patch anymore (which made WaterTypes deal damage of zero again so the IsInDangerousWater condition for the bathing power could be checked once again, this is why without this patch people with custom water mods had difficulties to Bathe). Also there is a nice mod out on Skyrim Nexus called Baked Beans of Skyrim, which introduces a gas/fart system based on the things you eat. Would like to see something similar for next version of PrivateNeeds (eg. if you drink too much, your bladder will be filled more quickly and if you eat a lot your bowels will be filled more quickly).

 

Also @richard19840706 : I'm hoping you're still working on the 3.0.0 version, please let us know something because it's more than a month since your last reply. What I'm hoping to see in the next version :

 

- [ALREADY CONFIRMED] Option to turn off interior prohibition to urinate/defecate, I'm using a lot of house mods with interior restrooms which I can't use unless I made a compatibility patch (which I did).

- A common disease Diarrhea. You have already the Constipation status so why not a Diarrhea status.

- Clean option for all the excrement/pee puddles populating the world (to fix save game bloat) + option automatic disable excrement/pee puddles after a period of time. See script a few pages back.

- Option to "shit your pants" like the "wet yourself" option. Soiled clothing visuals if possible for both "wet yourself" and "shit your pants".

- Fix the follower urination quest. I've tried it in the previous versions and it's actually pretty good.

- Toilet paper which is both craftable and sold by merchants (you could use the "roll of paper" already in-game) (Why? Because

) and the optional need to use this when defecating (male) and urinating (female). They drop if you use them and if possible animation + dirty visuals on this paper.

- [ALREADY CONFIRMED] Dirty visuals (which gradually evolve when getting dirtier?)

- Other stuff (I will fill this in when I have thought of something else).

[azmodan22]

The latest version of W.A.T.E.R. (Water and Terrain Enhancement Redux) (2.01 +) includes a patch for RND (Realistic Needs and Diseases) and it also works for PrivateNeeds, there is no need for the PrivateNeeds-RND patch anymore (which made WaterTypes deal damage of zero again so the IsInDangerousWater condition for the bathing power could be checked once again, this is why without this patch people with custom water mods had difficulties to Bathe). Also there is a nice mod out on Skyrim Nexus called Baked Beans of Skyrim, which introduces a gas/fart system based on the things you eat. Would like to see something similar for next version of PrivateNeeds (eg. if you drink too much, your bladder will be filled more quickly and if you eat a lot your bowels will be filled more quickly).

 

Also @richard19840706 : I'm hoping you're still working on the 3.0.0 version, please let us know something because it's more than a month since your last reply. What I'm hoping to see in the next version :

 

- [ALREADY CONFIRMED] Option to turn off interior prohibition to urinate/defecate, I'm using a lot of house mods with interior restrooms which I can't use unless I made a compatibility patch (which I did).

- A common disease Diarrhea. You have already the Constipation status so why not a Diarrhea status.

- Clean option for all the excrement/pee puddles populating the world (to fix save game bloat) + option automatic disable excrement/pee puddles after a period of time. See script a few pages back.

- Option to "shit your pants" like the "wet yourself" option. Soiled clothing visuals if possible for both "wet yourself" and "shit your pants".

- Fix the follower urination quest. I've tried it in the previous versions and it's actually pretty good.

- Toilet paper which is both craftable and sold by merchants (you could use the "roll of paper" already in-game) (Why? Because

) and the optional need to use this when defecating (male) and urinating (female). They drop if you use them and if possible animation + dirty visuals on this paper.

- [ALREADY CONFIRMED] Dirty visuals (which gradually evolve when getting dirtier?)

- Other stuff (I will fill this in when I have thought of something else).

 

How about, 

- The option to play random animation when urinating/defacating

- Alternate bathithing animation.

- Option to loop the bathing animation once or twice so it lasts a bit longer

- Possibility to urinate/defacte while sitting, (for those who use custome houses and thus have custom toilets not recognaized by the mod, i.e Underground bathhouse, Luxury suite..etc)

:-)

[bruce142]

 

 

Possibility to urinate/defacte while sitting, (for those who use custome houses and thus have custom toilets not recognaized by the mod, i.e Underground bathhouse, Luxury suite..etc)

 

Never possible because you can't use any magic when an animation plays, this is how Skyrim works, believe me I've tried myself to make this work but you can't cast anything while sitting. But my suggestion (which is confirmed by richard in his previous posts) makes it possible to use the urinate/defecate power indoors. There is a walkaround for the not being able to cast a power/magic while sitting : ready the power by selecting it in the menu, and cast it while immediately activating the toilet furniture (so cast power first than immediately activate furniture).

[azmodan22]

 

Possibility to urinate/defacte while sitting, (for those who use custome houses and thus have custom toilets not recognaized by the mod, i.e Underground bathhouse, Luxury suite..etc)

 

Never possible because you can't use any magic when an animation plays, this is how Skyrim works, believe me I've tried myself to make this work but you can't cast anything while sitting. But my suggestion (which is confirmed by richard in his previous posts) makes it possible to use the urinate/defecate power indoors. There is a walkaround for the not being able to cast a power/magic while sitting : ready the power by selecting it in the menu, and cast it while immediately activating the toilet furniture (so cast power first than immediately activate furniture).

 

 

I didnt have that aproach in mind. What I have noticed is that when the player 'cannot hold it anymore', the animation does start and the mesh is equiped even if the player is seated. I was thinking if that could be used somehow.  

[bruce142]

 

 

Possibility to urinate/defacte while sitting, (for those who use custome houses and thus have custom toilets not recognaized by the mod, i.e Underground bathhouse, Luxury suite..etc)

 

Never possible because you can't use any magic when an animation plays, this is how Skyrim works, believe me I've tried myself to make this work but you can't cast anything while sitting. But my suggestion (which is confirmed by richard in his previous posts) makes it possible to use the urinate/defecate power indoors. There is a walkaround for the not being able to cast a power/magic while sitting : ready the power by selecting it in the menu, and cast it while immediately activating the toilet furniture (so cast power first than immediately activate furniture).

 

 

I didnt have that aproach in mind. What I have noticed is that when the player 'cannot hold it anymore', the animation does start and the mesh is equiped even if the player is seated. I was thinking if that could be used somehow.  

 

 

This event you're talking about is scripted and doesn't deal with the Urinate/defecate power. This is already also in place for sitting on an "Outhouse of Skyrim" because it has the outhousescript attached to it. You can do the same with these mods you're talking about : load PrivateNeeds.esp as passive plugin and the house mod's esp as active plugin, add the outhousescript to the toilet furniture + autofill the properties and only one needs to be filled in manually UrinateDuration, add also the keyword "isToilet", this is used in the FollowerUrinateQuest to determine a nearby toilet and save, it as simple as this but don't forget to add the PrivateNeeds.esp as master using Wrye Bash or TesVEdit every time you save the house mod's esp.

[gronkan]

I'm only getting a visible stream from doggy and hands behind back stances. Can someone give me an idea of how to fix this? It seems it is a lighting issue, but I'm not sure.

[bruce142]

I'm only getting a visible stream from doggy and hands behind back stances. Can someone give me an idea of how to fix this? It seems it is a lighting issue, but I'm not sure.

 

Make sure you have installed the following :

 

XMPS Skeleton

The latest version of ZaZ animation pack (version 5.51 updated recently at the fourth of April, includes the latest bugfixes including the pee fix located at post 1163)

the lastest version of FNIS Fores New Idles (version 5.0.2)

SkyUI and SKSE

The latest version of PrivateNeeds

 

Run FNIS GenerateFNISforUsers.exe (located at Data\tools\GenerateFNIS_for_Users) every time you install a new skeleton or new animations, without this the animations will not work. Even if you have run this program before, it can never hurt to generate the behavior.hkx files again. Also post the log of GenerateFNISforUsers if it still doesn't work.

[Molevalence]

Hmm this mod seems to work fine with regular races but I have problems with custom races. I still cannot get the bath animation to work at all and the urinate/defecate he/she hovers in the air planking with their hands tied behind their back. Anyone else having this issue?

[sgtsnorkles]

Hello richard

 

I really like your mod adds to the immersion of the game. just one problem for me though, there doesent seem to be an animation for male peeing and pooping.  he just stands there while a puddle forms under his feet like a woman is pissing and the feces comes out but he just stands there. he's not stiff or anything just standing. I have the zaz animations installed and have run fores all before I played but nothing happens he undresses and  he does like I mentioned. Is the out house mod really required? I am not a modder but I did find an outhouse mod someone else made will that work? I also have basic needs (eat drink sleep bathe) installed as well is that mod somehow a conflict?

 

Make sure of your load order.  Make sure you have registered Zaz  in MCM.  I have used this mod for a good bit now, using male and female PC characters.  No problems with either.  Also, in MCM, make sure you have made adjustments to PN.  There are several options for character's position when peeing and poop.  Please go through everything and look at what they do.

[eatwhatever]

having issue with voice(like power attack grunting) after wetting self in combat or bursting urination with this mod.  

 

any fixes?

[TripleKnightmare]

Any way to increase poop size?

[magicrealm]

anybody knows if the light Version pn discreet will be supported again ?

[TripleKnightmare]

anybody knows if the light Version pn discreet will be supported again ?

 

I hope it will, I'm using that one right now