Naked Defeat AE/SE

[Talesien]

8 hours ago, ineedtherapy225 said:

no im not sure now that you say it xD

its 8.0+ right?
and do i use the one with hdt or the one without?

There is no 8.0+ without hdt. The non-hdt version is 8.0 without a '+', which would be the wrong version. There is also a very clear Hard Requirements section in the Mods description, including a DL link to a ZAZ version with 3BA bodyslides included. What body type are you using?

[ineedtherapy225]

1 hour ago, Talesien said:

There is no 8.0+ without hdt. The non-hdt version is 8.0 without a '+', which would be the wrong version. There is also a very clear Hard Requirements section in the Mods description, including a DL link to a ZAZ version with 3BA bodyslides included. What body type are you using?

im using 3BA with softbody

and im using zaz 8.0+ with the 3BA conversion 

[Talesien]

2 hours ago, ineedtherapy225 said:

im using 3BA with softbody

and im using zaz 8.0+ with the 3BA conversion 

Then it's not ZAZ, which brings us back to OAR, did you try disabling it to see if the problem persists anyway?