Naked Defeat AE/SE

[Guest]

In this log there are several defeats.  Some with sex and some with whipping.  The camera worked this time.  The complete collapse on the ground does occur and the camera glitches below the ground everytime but it recovers. Only once did the weapon controls not work but I still think it may be an exterior mod.   Once I could not regain control of my PC.  I had to use the debug.  What I wanted to show was that the skeleton spawns (8) happened whether I checked the spawns checkbox or not.  I change it when not in combat and not in a defeated state to test.  They arrive everytime I am defeated.  Only once did they participate, which I don’t think is that unusual.  Other local draugr participated normally.

Papyrus.0.log

[pushmo]

Hy, Nymra, sorry for question not about topic, but can you share what mods do you usually use(mods load order or screenshots) in term of bondage-rape play trough. Really want to see them!

[Bondage Queen Slaveia]

Back for my annual re-install lol.
Excited to play Naked Defeat again and see what's new!
Is there a complete changelog list anywhere?

[Nymra]

4 hours ago, Tytosik said:

Hy, Nymra, sorry for question not about topic, but can you share what mods do you usually use(mods load order or screenshots) in term of bondage-rape play trough. Really want to see them!

 

basically only Naked Defeat and almost all of its hard and soft dependencies (all SLAL packs that exist, DD Framework, ZAZ 8+, The Amazing World of Bikini Armor).

 

I do not use ANY other Sex/Rape/DD/Sexy Quest related mod anymore. I tested them all for years and finally found them all to be not what I want or just annoying. That is the main reason why I add new features to Naked Defeat: bascially to spice up my game without having to deal with a big mod that does too much  

Edited August 27, 2025 by Nymra

[Nymra]

8 minutes ago, Bondage Queen Slaveia said:

Back for my annual re-install lol.
Excited to play Naked Defeat again and see what's new!
Is there a complete changelog list anywhere?

 

no, sorry. I tried to post most changelogs in the thread tho,... but it has a few pages.

I m also uploading a new version with some fixes soon. Bleedout in combat was broken it seems (just me messing up stuff without thinking sometimes)

[Nymra]

12 hours ago, TFor2 said:

In this log there are several defeats.  Some with sex and some with whipping.  The camera worked this time.  The complete collapse on the ground does occur and the camera glitches below the ground everytime but it recovers. Only once did the weapon controls not work but I still think it may be an exterior mod.   Once I could not regain control of my PC.  I had to use the debug.  What I wanted to show was that the skeleton spawns (8) happened whether I checked the spawns checkbox or not.  I change it when not in combat and not in a defeated state to test.  They arrive everytime I am defeated.  Only once did they participate, which I don’t think is that unusual.  Other local draugr participated normally.

Papyrus.0.log 1.23 MB · 0 downloads

 

Camera is just Skyrim... not much I can do. 
I want to add more camera debug options, but its hard to prevent all the bugs related to it.

 

If you have trouble with the camera, try my Zap NO Collision furnitures.
Also you can try to disable the Scene Protectors during whipping or just use more Free camera.

 

Also I noticed that lately animators often also mess with the camera. Something I am totally opposed to, but what can I do... (anubs does it alot lately it seems. not sure if acceidently or on purpose). Using Free cam is the only fix I know of for the moment.

 

The Skeletons should only spawn when you are defeated by the Undead. (Vampires, Necromancers etc. also qualify as such).

I want to add more variety to it too.

 Double Check if NymSpawn is enabled. They should not spawn with it off.

[Nymra]

12 hours ago, TFor2 said:

 I was being sent to the afterlife over half the time during this period.  (I'm in my time and hurting which is why there is no log) Everything does seem to work but it is slower than the 4+ versions.  Camera settings were mine to figure out.  Furniture was still 50% reliable though.  Still, not that bad as I know many things are happening.  I set afterlife at 5%.  

 

Do you mean you set "Death Chance" to 5%? there is no afterlife chance

It seems Bleedout Defeat was broken indeed because I am stupid. It also somehow did not affect my game which I will never know why but its what it is now.

Fix uploaded soon for you guys to test. 

 

12 hours ago, TFor2 said:

I suppose the main issue for me is crawl after defeat does not respect any timer I set.  I have it set to unlimited yet the bad guys immediately attack me.  I literally mean seconds after I get notice to crawl away, I stand up and get defeated immediately again.  The crawling away section of ND seems to be skipped.

 

it works for me. 

are you sure you are not hitting "K" (action key) at any time? I think also jumping and sprinting also ends the timer. 

 

12 hours ago, TFor2 said:

 

The image is just to show what spawns consistently for me in the afterlife.  I think I experienced 6 afterlife scenarios before downgrading.  Only one did not spawn anything.  The other instances  spawns a full party of them.  Only one type of creature participates in the assault though.  Gargoyles won 4-1.  If you notice, I'm floating well above the table during the first assault.  I return to the table after that.  Hope this helps.

 

 

I cannot reproduce this issue. As of 5.28 the afterlife works pretty reliable for me. 
If creatures do not participate its either just random or maybe you disabled some of them in the MCM (they should not even spawn then, tho).

No idea how you ended up there... if it was only once its not an issue tho. If it happens all the time, please return with a log

[Guest]

On 8/27/2025 at 6:32 AM, Nymra said:

 

Do you mean you set "Death Chance" to 5%? there is no afterlife chance

It seems Bleedout Defeat was broken indeed because I am stupid. It also somehow did not affect my game which I will never know why but its what it is now.

Fix uploaded soon for you guys to test. 

 

 

it works for me. 

are you sure you are not hitting "K" (action key) at any time? I think also jumping and sprinting also ends the timer. 

 

 

I cannot reproduce this issue. As of 5.28 the afterlife works pretty reliable for me. 
If creatures do not participate its either just random or maybe you disabled some of them in the MCM (they should not even spawn then, tho).

No idea how you ended up there... if it was only once its not an issue tho. If it happens all the time, please return with a log

Do you mean you set "Death Chance" to 5%? there is no afterlife chance.  

 

🥰Yes, I wrote that incorrectly.  Simply sharing that the Death occurence was very high and did not respect the settings in the MCM.

 

Crawl away feature after defeat/wiggling has not worked for me on any of the new versions.  I am not selecting any key or jumping or sprinting.  I simply stand up and the fight is back on.  If it works on a limited mod list, I will blame mine.  It always worked on the 4+ versions though.  Will monitor when I get back to my game.  I get so nervous sometimes when I play that I may be hitting the spacebar but I don't think I am.

 

My comment on the spawns in the afterlife was simply to show you.  ND was generally successful in completing the death scenario in the afterlife.  Very reliable.  Just the one occasion when nothing spawned.  I reloaded as I didn't want to run all the way back from Sky Haven Temple and the fadeout and teleport didn't occur.  The spawns of multiple varieties of abusers was new for me and what I wanted  you to see.   It's fine.  I do float well above the table during most of the afterlife scenarios and do not return to ground level until after the first assault.  If no one else is seeing this, we know what to blame.  ME and my list.  Having sex in air is fine though.  After all, it is the afterlife 🥰

 

 

 

[D1on1sey]

Hello everyone, please tell me where I can find Proxie SLAL. SE version ?

[Nymra]

Before I start doing to much again...

 

 

NAKED DEFEAT 5.291 - FULL - 

 

Sorry,.. messed something up. Please just redownload 5.291 when you downloaded 5.29.

Changelog is the same as below. But this one works... (the new Update Method was not working in 5.29, sorry)

 

IMPORTANT NEW UPDATE ROUTINE:
- I simplified the Update Progress. 

- install 5.29 in Mod Manager, remove all Earlier Versions (except Extras)

- Load Game. Disable Naked Defeat in MCM System -> close MCM -> Wait 2-3 Seconds -> Enable Naked Defeat in MCM System -> Play.

----> no Save and Reload required anymore. And even the "Disable/Enable Mod" will be gone soon. 

 

I m still mostly focused on bugfixing and improving the core part of the mod. So new features will only trickle in slowly for the moment.

 

IMPORTANT (MAJOR) BUGFIX:
- fixed Bleedout in Combat not working, stupid error of mine sorry

IMPORTANT NEW/CHANGED -> NAKED ACCIDENTS
"Naked Falling" is now "Naked Accidents".
is set to 0 (disabled) by default, still check the value if you had previous versions installed.
When you receive Damage OUTSIDE of Combat this can now also cause defeats, death events (afterlife) and more (WIP).
The slider allows you to set the Dice Roll for that.
iF you set the slider to 100 and get 20 damage, you have 20% chance of getting defeated by nearby enemies (10000 units) or go to the afterlife (simple as that)
Slider 1000 and 20 damage, its a 2% chance.
NOTE: if you enter bleedout with the slider beeing 100+ you will always be defeated or sent to the afterlife.
I m also working on more varitey for afterlife scenarios over time. 

 

Works for:
- Falling Damage (detects falling still, but not exclusive anymore)

- Trap Damage

- might even trigger on Poison damage when unlucky

- beware of Clutter, it can damage you too , I recommend this mod: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/36132

 

IMPORTANT NOTE FOR THIS:  basically when you set the slider to 0 you should now ALWAYS get back up when bleeding out or getting damage/falling etc. OUTSIDE of Combat. 

IMPROVED: 
- enemy and follower detection when you are downed in combat and your followers try to protect you.
----> should be more reliable now
NOTE: you can always press "K" when your followers just refuse to fight or are stuck or whatever to surrender early

- added more Ragdoll Detectors and Debugs to prevent Location Changes while ... well, ragdolled  

NEW DEBUG:
- Pressing "K" (action key) during Blur will remove the Blur (just for issues)
- Using "Unstuck Player" in the Debug Wheel will do that too, but also other stuff, so you can remove the Blur first just to check whats going on.

NEW FEATURE FOR PUBLIC PUNISHMENT: 
- after the message "you feel uneasy" appears you can now press "K" to submit to the public (like a combat surrender).

this has a 90% chance of having only a SHORT punishment as a reward for your "cooperation".

If you manage to get away and it says "You feel save for now" this does not work anymore until you are "uneasy" again.

 

 

Naked Defeat 5-291 - FULL - (AE + SE).7z

Edited August 28, 2025 by Nymra

[Nethertale]

Wtf?

Slow down I haven't even installed 5.28 yet 😭

[Nymra]

3 minutes ago, Nethertale said:

Wtf?

Slow down I haven't even installed 5.28 yet 😭

 

hehe,

mostly bugfixing... and important ones too.

And from now on updating will get ever easier anway

 

[omega3131]

first of all thanks for the mod I'm new to this mod and i need help with something. My followers changes their struggle position too fast and too much. That causes to stop their sex animations. Whats the solution or problem for me? appreciate for help.

[Nymra]

8 hours ago, omega3131 said:

first of all thanks for the mod I'm new to this mod and i need help with something. My followers changes their struggle position too fast and too much. That causes to stop their sex animations. Whats the solution or problem for me? appreciate for help.

 

I could not recreate this issue.

 

Please upload a Papyurs.0.log when that happens. 

 

Also, do you use any mods that modify Follower Idles or makes them do stuff during sex? 

Or any other mod that could maybe also be active? 

EDIT: maybe even DAR/OAR can cause this if not configured correctly I think. 

Edited August 29, 2025 by Nymra

[naan_horh]

I thought I was lucky, only today I decided to install this mod and I see a fresh update. But... it doesn't work at all. I tried all 9 points from the list "what to do if the mod does not appear in MCM" a new save, reinstalled all the necessary mods. The last thing I tried was help from the GPT chat, now I analyzed the logs, and... I don't understand anything about it. But searching by keywords gave this. Although as far as I can assume, all the other million errors are also parts of this mod and not my other modifications. I attach a quote from the papyrus log and the papyrus log itself. Sad(
NakedDefeat_ModVersion on script nade_configquest_scr attached to nade_ConfigQuest (390012C5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

Papyrus.0.log

[Nymra]

1 hour ago, naan_horh said:

I thought I was lucky, only today I decided to install this mod and I see a fresh update. But... it doesn't work at all. I tried all 9 points from the list "what to do if the mod does not appear in MCM" a new save, reinstalled all the necessary mods. The last thing I tried was help from the GPT chat, now I analyzed the logs, and... I don't understand anything about it. But searching by keywords gave this. Although as far as I can assume, all the other million errors are also parts of this mod and not my other modifications. I attach a quote from the papyrus log and the papyrus log itself. Sad(
NakedDefeat_ModVersion on script nade_configquest_scr attached to nade_ConfigQuest (390012C5) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property

Papyrus.0.log 1.09 MB · 0 downloads

 

hm, I cannot make sense of that. 

the gazillion errors are from naked defeat, but none of these show up for me (and the dozen or so missing records that are in the logs since years are harmless). The errors in the log point to a deeper problem. 

double check if the mod is installed correctly. Especially when NOT using Mod Organizer 2 (which, if not an expert user with special knowlegde) is the only real good and save way to use mods.

 

I suspect that the ESP is missing or at the wrong spot. 
make sure you did not ESLify it or made other shenanigans with it. 
Also only use the latest version of Naked Defeat (5.291)

Check if some Load Order witchery mods / autoloaders / MCM recorders and whatnot do not interfere... 

 

Might also be you somehow exceeded the max ESP count. 

 

 

Edited August 29, 2025 by Nymra

[Siudhne]

Could you add a “loot_handles_weapons_toggle” but for armors? I like the part where you are unable to equip or change armor during combat if Naked Loot is activated, but I still would like to wear looted armor.

[omega3131]

4 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

I could not recreate this issue.

 

Please upload a Papyurs.0.log when that happens. 

 

Also, do you use any mods that modify Follower Idles or makes them do stuff during sex? 

Or any other mod that could maybe also be active? 

EDIT: maybe even DAR/OAR can cause this if not configured correctly I think. 

This is what's going on for me, sometimes it happens during sex and she goes into struggle pose while male actor contiunes to animation. (dont know where is papyrus.0 log sorry that i can't help you better)

Skyrim Special Edition 2025-08-29 17-10-49.7z

[Nymra]

41 minutes ago, Siudhne said:

Could you add a “loot_handles_weapons_toggle” but for armors? I like the part where you are unable to equip or change armor during combat if Naked Loot is activated, but I still would like to wear looted armor.

 

I dont think I understand.

 

You want to use Naked Loot but you want to be able to change or equip the worn armor during combat? 

Or do you mean you only want to be able to equip armor from bodies and equip them, but not from your saved profiles? 

 

 

The function that prevents you from equipping armor is not distinguishing between Armor from your saved profiles or once that you just find laying around.

 

 

Edited August 29, 2025 by Nymra

[Nymra]

17 minutes ago, omega3131 said:

This is what's going on for me, sometimes it happens during sex and she goes into struggle pose while male actor contiunes to animation. (dont know where is papyrus.0 log sorry that i can't help you better)

Skyrim Special Edition 2025-08-29 17-10-49.7z 36.37 MB · 1 download

 

this is not the papyrus log. check my signature for a tutorial. 

Papyrus Log Tutorial: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/articles/368

[Siudhne]

7 minutes ago, Nymra said:

 

I dont think I understand.

 

You want to use Naked Loot but you want to be able to change or equip the worn armor during combat? 

 

 

The opposite, basically. I don't want to be able to change or equip worn armors during combat (because it's unrealistic), but nothing else.

Edited August 29, 2025 by Siudhne

[Nymra]

21 minutes ago, Siudhne said:

The opposite, basically. I don't want to be able to change or equip worn armors during combat (because it's unrealistic), but nothing else.

 

ah, so basically you want a subfeature of Naked Loot to be useable on its own. 

I think I can do that via the nade_Config. I put it on the list. 

[Siudhne]

1 hour ago, Nymra said:

 

ah, so basically you want a subfeature of Naked Loot to be useable on its own. 

I think I can do that via the nade_Config. I put it on the list. 

Thank you very much!

[naan_horh]

3 hours ago, Nymra said:

 

hm, I cannot make sense of that. 

the gazillion errors are from naked defeat, but none of these show up for me (and the dozen or so missing records that are in the logs since years are harmless). The errors in the log point to a deeper problem. 

double check if the mod is installed correctly. Especially when NOT using Mod Organizer 2 (which, if not an expert user with special knowlegde) is the only real good and save way to use mods.

 

I suspect that the ESP is missing or at the wrong spot. 
make sure you did not ESLify it or made other shenanigans with it. 
Also only use the latest version of Naked Defeat (5.291)

Check if some Load Order witchery mods / autoloaders / MCM recorders and whatnot do not interfere... 

 

Might also be you somehow exceeded the max ESP count. 

 

 

Yes I use MO2, I use LOOT, I use SSEEdit, the number of plugins I have in MO2 is 155, the last one in the list I load is Naked Defeat. I really don't understand what could have gone wrong. My MCM loads 30 mods and I have recalculated all of them, exactly 30 of them and even after using ski_configmanagerinstance 1, ND is not added to the list. I use the latest version of the mod because I can't find other versions to try if it will work on older versions. Anyway, thanks for trying to help.

P.S. the only thing that the GPT Chat could tell me when I tried to use it to understand what was being said in the logs was this: The nade_configquest_scr script on the nade_ConfigQuest object is about to become powerful NakedDefeat_ModVersion, but there is no such power in the script code anymore"

[Nymra]

25 minutes ago, naan_horh said:

Yes I use MO2, I use LOOT, I use SSEEdit, the number of plugins I have in MO2 is 155, the last one in the list I load is Naked Defeat. I really don't understand what could have gone wrong. My MCM loads 30 mods and I have recalculated all of them, exactly 30 of them and even after using ski_configmanagerinstance 1, ND is not added to the list. I use the latest version of the mod because I can't find other versions to try if it will work on older versions. Anyway, thanks for trying to help.

P.S. the only thing that the GPT Chat could tell me when I tried to use it to understand what was being said in the logs was this: The nade_configquest_scr script on the nade_ConfigQuest object is about to become powerful NakedDefeat_ModVersion, but there is no such power in the script code anymore"

 

are you using the steam version? uncracked etc?
I m sorry the "Mod does not show up" thing is a weird thing and it happened to me too. Each time it would just go away after some time without me ever beeing able to reconstruct it.
 

a thing you could try is changing the ESP Form from 43 to 44 but you need the CK for that and not proven to help.