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21 hours ago, squart2203 said:

well, at this point i'm out of ideas. you can perhaps try starting a new character and see if that works, at least that'll tell you that your installation is functional

 

This was with a new game.

 

What is your load order of Babo Mods?

 

Thx

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4 hours ago, WCSC said:

 

This was with a new game.

 

What is your load order of Babo Mods?

 

Thx

i just let LOOT sort it our for me, so i dunno how much this would help

 

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i suppose one final thing that i can think of is, did you use the correct version of babodialogue? there are LE and SE versions and getting them mixed up can often be annoying to debug

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1 hour ago, squart2203 said:

i just let LOOT sort it our for me, so i dunno how much this would help

 

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i suppose one final thing that i can think of is, did you use the correct version of babodialogue? there are LE and SE versions and getting them mixed up can often be annoying to debug

Have you had any crash on load issues I can't seem to even get the mods to work since the game won't stay open long enough to test them

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On 5/26/2021 at 11:56 PM, factoryclose said:

 

Essential switch from Babodialogue won't work in all events. It wasn't meant to be like that in the first place. As you already guessed, it only activates when it's necessary. So if you want your character 24hour invincible, Defeat Essential would work for you. I haven't done anything to its function so it should work.

 

On 7/3/2021 at 10:36 AM, DownloadSexMods said:

I feel like this should be written in the mod's description. 

Because I've been trying to trigger a defeat scenario for a very long time but I kept dying. 
Only after I scrolled through the comments here and found your comment I understood how it works. 

For anyone not getting the defeat scenarion right (PC just dying/can't die/keeps getting up/etc): 
NOT ALL ENCOUNTERS IN THIS MOD HAVE THE DEFEAT SCENARIO! 
For example: I was trying to test the defeat scenario on Imperial Slavers with the Thalmor Prisoner and they just kept killing me.
But The Elite Assilant with the Enslaved Knight encounter worked just fine and my PC got defeated and tied up. 
So don't expect every encounter to be death-free. 

Hope this info helps! 

 

I seem to be having the same issue where death is the only outcome of some events. I have SL defeat with the baka defeat addon, however for both the rapist orc and the crazy serial killer events, there was no defeat. If I understand correctly, babodialogue does not have a defeat scenario for these events. However, because they are part of the 0xD58522 faction, I don't believe any defeat mod implementing your compatibility recommendation would handle them either. Could a potential solution be removing them from that faction?

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On 7/8/2021 at 8:19 AM, Spectre5342 said:

Seem to be having some crash issues when loading a save. Currently trying to reduce the load order or use this without Sexlab Horrible Harassment. My guess is that the papyrus is under too much stress if thats the case not much I can do to fix it. Any one have the same crash on load issues or just me?

I had the same problem. I tried disabling it, load save, wait and save then reactivate it and it started working.

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1 hour ago, takahiro said:

I had the same problem. I tried disabling it, load save, wait and save then reactivate it and it started working.

 

Just trying to load again with no changes usually worked for me, but the CTD logs from netscriptframework I have all referenced the mcm scripts, and even when the mod loads, my papyrus is spammed with errors about the mcm script. I'd like to use it, but it just seems to unstable at the moment.

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1 hour ago, zarantha said:

 

Just trying to load again with no changes usually worked for me, but the CTD logs from netscriptframework I have all referenced the mcm scripts, and even when the mod loads, my papyrus is spammed with errors about the mcm script. I'd like to use it, but it just seems to unstable at the moment.

Well I've been able to use just Babo Dialogue and not SLHH so gonna keep going for now without the latter. Too bad I really liked the animations of SLHH maybe it'll magically work down the road XD.

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Just now, Spectre5342 said:

Well I've been able to use just Babo Dialogue and not SLHH so gonna keep going for now without the latter. Too bad I really liked the animations of SLHH maybe it'll magically work down the road XD. Perhaps the current versions of the mods are just unstable Baka will probably fix it eventually his support for mods is still very much alive.

 

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uh oh, forgot to use the surprise while traveling the 7000 steps, is it only for that area or will it work elsewhere?  Do want to try that out.  Also, would like to request some expansion of dialogue.  In the mage's college, while wearing erotic armor, Ancano said something about when ___ happens I will make you my sex slave.  Then a little later he actually asked my PC  if she wanted to be his sex slave.  But my PC wasn't given any response dialogue.  I wanted to respond.  I would love for my PC to be able to say something like, I would be willing to try that, or that sounds fun, but just the once.  Other players might choose to say no.  And then there could be a scenario where Ancano leads the player to his secret sex room and makes her be his sex slave for one session or one day.  This would be a little bit more like SL Approach (which I used to always play with in my load order till I decided to try this and confabulation as replacements).   But having that interaction, and that choice of response, is what I find the most fun.   Ancano is just an example.  I don't know yet what dialogues you have given to other named NPCs, but  if there are others, you could add a separate list of encounters for those named NPCs and let players tick the ones they want in the MCM.  

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12 hours ago, Gods Plan said:

I have an issue with unlocking the Whiterun fucktoy title.

No matter how many times i complete the 3 orcs event, i don't unlock the title and therefore can't continue the further events.

 

uh oh, I defeated the Whiterun orcs the second time they came around.  Does that mean I'm prevented from "further events"?  I understand from prior posts that after the civil war Whiterun battle I can ask a guard to remove restraints and it starts a vice captain quest.  Are there any other quests that depend on the Whiterun orcs besides that one?

 

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Hey so, I'm doing everything in my power to get that orc trio event to appear for the first time and I just can't seem to do it. I'm sure im missing something obvious but i have no idea what.

I got my character [lvl 3, brand new character basically] to the point where i just bought Breezehome and i fully upgraded it right away, then went to talk to Hulda and she gave me the "trigger" line about being happy im a new citizen and someone might take advantage of a lady living alone, then slept in my house causing lydia to spawn there. However, after this is just cannot get the trio to show up. None of the gaurds ever mention orcs arriving nor can i get any other dialogue out of Hulda. I tried leaving the hold for 24 hours multiple times, saving and reloading, and altering both my reputation from -7 to +50 and my looks from just above the requirements to max, and still nothing.

I should mention i use the easy "naked armor" options and stuff for these Baka mods because im just not smart enough to figure out how to use the keywords, so if i HAVE to use keywords to get this mod running that would be why, but i didn't get that impression scouring the messages on this post. I haven't done the civil war quest yet, but i assumed that was only needed for the follow up quests with the vice captain. 

Also, the orc messenger isnt part of the first trio encounter right? Or do i have to meet him in one of the shops before the next trigger? I could just use a little help here to see what i could be missing, thanks ><

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10 hours ago, Katauni said:

Hey so, I'm doing everything in my power to get that orc trio event to appear for the first time and I just can't seem to do it. I'm sure im missing something obvious but i have no idea what.

I got my character [lvl 3, brand new character basically] to the point where i just bought Breezehome and i fully upgraded it right away, then went to talk to Hulda and she gave me the "trigger" line about being happy im a new citizen and someone might take advantage of a lady living alone, then slept in my house causing lydia to spawn there. However, after this is just cannot get the trio to show up. None of the gaurds ever mention orcs arriving nor can i get any other dialogue out of Hulda. I tried leaving the hold for 24 hours multiple times, saving and reloading, and altering both my reputation from -7 to +50 and my looks from just above the requirements to max, and still nothing.

I should mention i use the easy "naked armor" options and stuff for these Baka mods because im just not smart enough to figure out how to use the keywords, so if i HAVE to use keywords to get this mod running that would be why, but i didn't get that impression scouring the messages on this post. I haven't done the civil war quest yet, but i assumed that was only needed for the follow up quests with the vice captain. 

Also, the orc messenger isnt part of the first trio encounter right? Or do i have to meet him in one of the shops before the next trigger? I could just use a little help here to see what i could be missing, thanks ><

 

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at some point someone (Hulda?) said the guards were detaining the orcs in the jail.  after that, I talked to a random guard and got dialogue where I told him to lower the security level.  That meant releasing the orcs and after that the orc event happened.  Don't know if that helps you.

 

 Later I got an orc messenger telling me he overhead some orc bandits talking about jumping the owner of breezehome.  But that was actually after the first event?  Second event I went and killed the orcs.  So now I've hit reset on the whiterum orc event and I'm waiting to see if it starts up again, since apparently, based on a post I read, there's a further event with the vice captain of the guard that I missed because I killed the orcs.

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28 minutes ago, marymuir2 said:

at some point someone (Hulda?) said the guards were detaining the orcs in the jail.  after that, I talked to a random guard and got dialogue where I told him to lower the security level.  That meant releasing the orcs and after that the orc event happened.  Don't know if that helps you.

 

 Later I got an orc messenger telling me he overhead some orc bandits talking about jumping the owner of breezehome.  But that was actually after the first event?  Second event I went and killed the orcs.  So now I've hit reset on the whiterum orc event and I'm waiting to see if it starts up again, since apparently, based on a post I read, there's a further event with the vice captain of the guard that I missed because I killed the orcs.

Yeah i actually got it fixed, turns out it was the keywords causing. You HAVE to be wearing an armor cuirass with the right keyword to continue it, just selected "naked armor" om the Aroused MCM won't do it. Luckily i found Potatos in depth explanation a few pages back explaining how to do it so I got it working.

Strangely though, i never saw the messenger or had to tell the gaurds to lower security. Hulda told me about the orcs getting arrested, then i left to go to riften, came back and they were in front of my house. 

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Hi I just download the latest 4.0 version for SE Skyrim. I'm up to the scene when three ugly orcs visit my house. I think after the dialogue it suppose to have animation, but it never happen. And no extra dialogues from the orc either. And I check my set up I don't think I miss any requirement file. Please help.

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2 hours ago, SomerHimpson said:

Hi, it's probably something I'm overlooking but I can't seem to find out where I can take a loan from a loanshark. Where are loansharks located? Or do I need to install a seperate mod for that?

 

Mod works well so far and thanks a lot!

They randomly spawn on inns and taverns.

 

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On 7/13/2021 at 9:37 AM, Katauni said:

Yeah i actually got it fixed, turns out it was the keywords causing. You HAVE to be wearing an armor cuirass with the right keyword to continue it, just selected "naked armor" om the Aroused MCM won't do it. Luckily i found Potatos in depth explanation a few pages back explaining how to do it so I got it working.

Strangely though, i never saw the messenger or had to tell the gaurds to lower security. Hulda told me about the orcs getting arrested, then i left to go to riften, came back and they were in front of my house. 

 I hear you, it took me several tries and finding a better explanation before I could get it to work and add keywords, and now it's pretty easy to do.  Re the messenger, I returned to breezehome one time and found a single orc waiting for me, to warn me. I don't even use breezehome except for this orc event as I have Elysium Estate loaded.

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