Erstam Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Did a quick test Ashal, everything went fine until Zyn's Missionary position, actors started taking random positions, space bar didn't help, it just reset them, then they'd start randomizing again. Lots of entries in the papyrus log about failing validations, actors already animating, don't know if that's a symptom or cause, just an FYI. Here's my papyrus log to go with it. Same random position shifts here... no errors in the Papyrus log, in my case. Also getting the random position changes on some animations. The same problems from Beta versions seems to remain in SL 1.58 and in fresh new game: first, Lesbian scene with strap on is delayed up to 5 seconds with 3-4 changing sex positioning. The same things are happening with aggressive animation, only without time delay. ScreenShot0.jpg ScreenShot1.jpg ScreenShot2.jpg Yes, still the same problem I described after trying Beta 3: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/18708-sexlab-framework-development/page-76?do=findComment&comment=831655 Okay, the stage 1 problem still isn't fixed... but I found out that it depends on the animation played. First I started a male-female scene with my main character (having updated from Beta 2 and reinitialized SexLab). With automatic stage progression disabled, I used the O key to cycle through the animations, waiting a couple of seconds to see if the animation bugs out. These are the animations that didn't play properly at the first stage: Boobjob Arrok Blowjob Hugging Fuck Arrok Sideways Fuck Sideways Fuck Arrok Reverse Cowgirl Arrok Cowgirl Reverse Cowgirl Doggy Style Missionary To verify the results, I made a fresh SexLab install on my squeaky clean, almost-vanilla save I use for testing. Disabled all the problematic animations in the MCM, and run through the animations again. Everything played normally. Then i disabled everything but the faulty animations, and indeed, every one of them went crazy. Something I noticed, the bugged animations always play one full cycle before the weird things happen. This is especially noticable in Arrok Blowjob, which has a very long Stage 1 animation loop. Now the big question: What have these animations in common? Considering the above, it almost looks like a FNIS problem, but I have no idea. EDIT: All these animations have a "-a" in their first line in FNIS_SexLab_List.txt. There are more of those, most likely aggressive animations I haven't tried. I don't know what this flag means, and whether it's necessary, but it's almost certainly more than a coincidence. I only tried animations in male-female consensual scenes, there might be more that are bugged too (aggressive, lesbian...) Two things to note: - there are no Papyrus errors (at least for me) - all affected animations have their first stage marked as acyclic
Ashal Posted July 1, 2014 Author Posted July 1, 2014 Yes, still the same problem I described after trying Beta 3: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/18708-sexlab-framework-development/page-76?do=findComment&comment=831655 Okay, the stage 1 problem still isn't fixed... but I found out that it depends on the animation played. First I started a male-female scene with my main character (having updated from Beta 2 and reinitialized SexLab). With automatic stage progression disabled, I used the O key to cycle through the animations, waiting a couple of seconds to see if the animation bugs out. These are the animations that didn't play properly at the first stage: Boobjob Arrok Blowjob Hugging Fuck Arrok Sideways Fuck Sideways Fuck Arrok Reverse Cowgirl Arrok Cowgirl Reverse Cowgirl Doggy Style Missionary To verify the results, I made a fresh SexLab install on my squeaky clean, almost-vanilla save I use for testing. Disabled all the problematic animations in the MCM, and run through the animations again. Everything played normally. Then i disabled everything but the faulty animations, and indeed, every one of them went crazy. Something I noticed, the bugged animations always play one full cycle before the weird things happen. This is especially noticable in Arrok Blowjob, which has a very long Stage 1 animation loop. Now the big question: What have these animations in common? Considering the above, it almost looks like a FNIS problem, but I have no idea. EDIT: All these animations have a "-a" in their first line in FNIS_SexLab_List.txt. There are more of those, most likely aggressive animations I haven't tried. I don't know what this flag means, and whether it's necessary, but it's almost certainly more than a coincidence. I only tried animations in male-female consensual scenes, there might be more that are bugged too (aggressive, lesbian...) Two things to note: - there are no Papyrus errors (at least for me) - all affected animations have their first stage marked as acyclic Looks like I still have FNIS 5.1 installed, which had a bug with the behavior generator. Make sure you have FNIS 5.1.1 and then run the Modder tool on the file \meshes\actors\character\animations\SexLab\FNIS_SexLab_List.txt to regenerate the behavior file. That should fix it, but I'm real busy with my real job right now to test it.
Erstam Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Looks like I still have FNIS 5.1 installed, which had a bug with the behavior generator. Make sure you have FNIS 5.1.1 and then run the Modder tool on the file \meshes\actors\character\animations\SexLab\FNIS_SexLab_List.txt to regenerate the behavior file. That should fix it, but I'm real busy with my real job right now to test it. That did the trick. All perfect now. For those who don't want to run the modders tool themselves, I've attached the fixed behavior file. FNIS_SexLab_Behavior.7z Overwrite the old file in meshes\actors\character\behaviors\ .
Eikichi Onizuka Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Looks like I still have FNIS 5.1 installed, which had a bug with the behavior generator. Make sure you have FNIS 5.1.1 and then run the Modder tool on the file \meshes\actors\character\animations\SexLab\FNIS_SexLab_List.txt to regenerate the behavior file. That should fix it, but I'm real busy with my real job right now to test it. That did the trick. All perfect now. For those who don't want to run the modders tool themselves, I've attached the fixed behavior file. FNIS_SexLab_Behavior.7z Overwrite the old file in meshes\actors\character\behaviors\ . One thing I've always wondered.. SOS mod it is better to install it before or after SexLab ?
Erstam Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 One thing I've always wondered.. SOS mod it is better to install it before or after SexLab ? It shouldn't matter much. However, both have StorageUtil.dll and its associated scripts included, which might cause problems if they use different versions. As a general rule, install the newer mod last.
Slammer64 Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Preliminary tests after regenerating a new behavior file seems to confirm that the problem with randomized animations is now fixed, as I was already using FINIS 5.1.1 that would explain a lot. I'm still getting the validation failed, actors already animating, but I think I have another mod that's causing that.
germanicus Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 After applying the fix, no more uncontrolled animation switching and all other things I wrote in one of my previous posts. Animations now start immediately and actors aren't separate with long space between them any more. Thanks again ashal and Erstam.
Guest Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Looks like I still have FNIS 5.1 installed, which had a bug with the behavior generator. Make sure you have FNIS 5.1.1 and then run the Modder tool on the file \meshes\actors\character\animations\SexLab\FNIS_SexLab_List.txt to regenerate the behavior file. That should fix it, but I'm real busy with my real job right now to test it. So, is there going to be a final v 1.58.1 version with the above fix inclyded?
Eikichi Onizuka Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 After applying the fix, no more uncontrolled animation switching and all other things I wrote in one of my previous posts. Animations now start immediately and actors aren't separate with long space between them any more. Thanks again ashal and Erstam. at this point.. look it's released the "Final-Fix" version, before downloading the new SL v1.58 there are new animations, are always the same, right..? A shame..! not to include all new 16 animations by Holtof55, they were great animations, some really-hot, some are conversions from Oblivion sex-animations, Holtof we worked on for months..! and now have deleted the thread, instead of including them natively in SexLab itself a permission problem, I hope we can reach an agreement, because in my opinion, and I think there are many who think this way, it is a great loss, 16 animations are a huge added value!
germanicus Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Iuki - Yea, I wish some animations were added, especially one that Grimbold mentioned. But here it is what it is!. The one you attached is also a great one.
parruyo Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Yes, i agree with Iuky, i will not update for this animations, bore always the same animations, but without sexlab long time i had stopped playing skirym. Sorry my english.
Ashal Posted July 1, 2014 Author Posted July 1, 2014 And I'll gladly include the animations just as soon as somebody tells me where they were taken from. I'm simply not going to include animations that were potentially stolen without permission or credit.
DoodlyDangua Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Excuse me. Due to current issues involving SKSE 1.7.0, I want to continue to use SexLab 1.39b until 1.7 of SKSE is no longer in Alpha build. However, I am unable to find 1.39b on my computer or anywhere else on the internet. Can you please provide a way to redownload SexLab 1.39b? All of my SexLab mods are compatible with 1.39b, and it is the current version of SexLab I have installed on my Skyrim. (I no longer have SexLab 1.39b in my WinRAR collection is all, and I want 1.39b for when I download Skyrim on my new computer when it is fully built.) EDIT: I should also mention I am still using SKSE 1.6.16 on my current installation of Skyrim as well. I've just heard about other people having issues with SKSE 1.7.0, such as CTDs and memory issues.
Ashal Posted July 1, 2014 Author Posted July 1, 2014 Excuse me. Due to current issues involving SKSE 1.7.0, I want to continue to use SexLab 1.39b until 1.7 of SKSE is no longer in Alpha build. However, I am unable to find 1.39b on my computer or anywhere else on the internet. Can you please provide a way to redownload SexLab 1.39b? All of my SexLab mods are compatible with 1.39b, and it is the current version of SexLab I have installed on my Skyrim. (I no longer have SexLab 1.39b in my WinRAR collection is all, and I want 1.39b for when I download Skyrim on my new computer when it is fully built.) EDIT: I should also mention I am still using SKSE 1.6.16 on my current installation of Skyrim as well. I've just heard about other people having issues with SKSE 1.7.0, such as CTDs and memory issues. No. Get over 1.7 being alpha, it's fine. People having issues are people making stupid mistakes and installing it wrong.
Eikichi Onizuka Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Yes, i agree with Iuky, i will not update for this animations, bore always the same animations, but without sexlab long time i had stopped playing skirym. Rightly.. Ashal repairing your ass from possible, although unlikely, legal repercussions.. I understand they can not be entered directly into SexLab not to take risks, but it is a little drastic to completely delete the discussion, you could remove the files until had obtained permission to use the excellent free animations for the purpose, which then in many countries, the right of auroras to be recognized, the work that is digital or not should be recorded in the office state that acknowledges paternity and as property of 'work, then if the author wanted $ 1,000 to give permission, I think that would get in a few days.. I think you can find a fair solution, instead of throwing Institute in the wind..!
Ashal Posted July 1, 2014 Author Posted July 1, 2014 It's not as if the thread was thrown into the eternal abyss, it was hidden, and he was informed it would be unhidden upon sourcing the animations and agreeing to remove the garbage ad-ridden download links, which not only go against forum rules of no affiliate links, but also reflects badly back onto the site as people stupidly click the wrong download button and then accuse LoversLab of giving them spyware.
DoodlyDangua Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Excuse me. Due to current issues involving SKSE 1.7.0, I want to continue to use SexLab 1.39b until 1.7 of SKSE is no longer in Alpha build. However, I am unable to find 1.39b on my computer or anywhere else on the internet. Can you please provide a way to redownload SexLab 1.39b? All of my SexLab mods are compatible with 1.39b, and it is the current version of SexLab I have installed on my Skyrim. (I no longer have SexLab 1.39b in my WinRAR collection is all, and I want 1.39b for when I download Skyrim on my new computer when it is fully built.) EDIT: I should also mention I am still using SKSE 1.6.16 on my current installation of Skyrim as well. I've just heard about other people having issues with SKSE 1.7.0, such as CTDs and memory issues. No. Get over 1.7 being alpha, it's fine. People having issues are people making stupid mistakes and installing it wrong. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and install the 1.7.0 alpha build, since you're the mod maker and have more knowledge than me. Another issue is that some people have made suggestions on how to fix memory issues. Should I use this fix anyway or wait and see if I have issues? I'll provide links: http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/ http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50214/? I should also mention I use a fix to make SKSE load via Steam. Will that cause any issues with the Alpha? Here is the link to said fix:
Ashal Posted July 1, 2014 Author Posted July 1, 2014 Excuse me. Due to current issues involving SKSE 1.7.0, I want to continue to use SexLab 1.39b until 1.7 of SKSE is no longer in Alpha build. However, I am unable to find 1.39b on my computer or anywhere else on the internet. Can you please provide a way to redownload SexLab 1.39b? All of my SexLab mods are compatible with 1.39b, and it is the current version of SexLab I have installed on my Skyrim. (I no longer have SexLab 1.39b in my WinRAR collection is all, and I want 1.39b for when I download Skyrim on my new computer when it is fully built.) EDIT: I should also mention I am still using SKSE 1.6.16 on my current installation of Skyrim as well. I've just heard about other people having issues with SKSE 1.7.0, such as CTDs and memory issues. No. Get over 1.7 being alpha, it's fine. People having issues are people making stupid mistakes and installing it wrong. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and install the 1.7.0 alpha build, since you're the mod maker and have more knowledge than me. Another issue is that some people have made suggestions on how to fix memory issues. I'll provide links: http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/ http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50214/? I should also mention I use a fix to make SKSE load via Steam. Will that cause any issues with the Alpha? Here is the link to said fix: The entire point of those posts is to inform about the memory fix included in 1.7.0 If you've been applying the fix suggested in those links with 1.6.16, they've been doing absolutely nothing for you before, if you've been using other methods such as SSME, than that is now useless since it's now included via 1.7.0 with the methods mentioned in the links.
Budroi Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Excuse me. Due to current issues involving SKSE 1.7.0, I want to continue to use SexLab 1.39b until 1.7 of SKSE is no longer in Alpha build. However, I am unable to find 1.39b on my computer or anywhere else on the internet. Can you please provide a way to redownload SexLab 1.39b? All of my SexLab mods are compatible with 1.39b, and it is the current version of SexLab I have installed on my Skyrim. (I no longer have SexLab 1.39b in my WinRAR collection is all, and I want 1.39b for when I download Skyrim on my new computer when it is fully built.) EDIT: I should also mention I am still using SKSE 1.6.16 on my current installation of Skyrim as well. I've just heard about other people having issues with SKSE 1.7.0, such as CTDs and memory issues. No. Get over 1.7 being alpha, it's fine. People having issues are people making stupid mistakes and installing it wrong. Agree wholeheartedly. Plus if everyone would read your forum (this one) on proper installation no one would have any problems.
DoodlyDangua Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Excuse me. Due to current issues involving SKSE 1.7.0, I want to continue to use SexLab 1.39b until 1.7 of SKSE is no longer in Alpha build. However, I am unable to find 1.39b on my computer or anywhere else on the internet. Can you please provide a way to redownload SexLab 1.39b? All of my SexLab mods are compatible with 1.39b, and it is the current version of SexLab I have installed on my Skyrim. (I no longer have SexLab 1.39b in my WinRAR collection is all, and I want 1.39b for when I download Skyrim on my new computer when it is fully built.) EDIT: I should also mention I am still using SKSE 1.6.16 on my current installation of Skyrim as well. I've just heard about other people having issues with SKSE 1.7.0, such as CTDs and memory issues. No. Get over 1.7 being alpha, it's fine. People having issues are people making stupid mistakes and installing it wrong. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and install the 1.7.0 alpha build, since you're the mod maker and have more knowledge than me. Another issue is that some people have made suggestions on how to fix memory issues. I'll provide links: http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/ http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50214/? I should also mention I use a fix to make SKSE load via Steam. Will that cause any issues with the Alpha? Here is the link to said fix: The entire point of those posts is to inform about the memory fix included in 1.7.0 If you've been applying the fix suggested in those links with 1.6.16, they've been doing absolutely nothing for you before, if you've been using other methods such as SSME, than that is now useless since it's now included with 1.7.0 So I can install 1.7.0 without using those fixes? Sorry if I sound a little naive about this, but I am relatively new to modding. I will thank you for putting up with me and answering my questions, though.
Eikichi Onizuka Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Excuse me. Due to current issues involving SKSE 1.7.0, I want to continue to use SexLab 1.39b until 1.7 of SKSE is no longer in Alpha build. However, I am unable to find 1.39b on my computer or anywhere else on the internet. Can you please provide a way to redownload SexLab 1.39b? All of my SexLab mods are compatible with 1.39b, and it is the current version of SexLab I have installed on my Skyrim. (I no longer have SexLab 1.39b in my WinRAR collection is all, and I want 1.39b for when I download Skyrim on my new computer when it is fully built.) EDIT: I should also mention I am still using SKSE 1.6.16 on my current installation of Skyrim as well. I've just heard about other people having issues with SKSE 1.7.0, such as CTDs and memory issues. No. Get over 1.7 being alpha, it's fine. People having issues are people making stupid mistakes and installing it wrong. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and install the 1.7.0 alpha build, since you're the mod maker and have more knowledge than me. Another issue is that some people have made suggestions on how to fix memory issues. I'll provide links: http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/ http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50214/? I should also mention I use a fix to make SKSE load via Steam. Will that cause any issues with the Alpha? Here is the link to said fix: The entire point of those posts is to inform about the memory fix included in 1.7.0 If you've been applying the fix suggested in those links with 1.6.16, they've been doing absolutely nothing for you before, if you've been using other methods such as SSME, than that is now useless since it's now included with 1.7.0 So I can install 1.7.0 without using those fixes? Sorry if I sound a little naive about this, but I am relatively new to modding. I will thank you for putting up with me and answering my questions, though. installed SKSE
Ashal Posted July 1, 2014 Author Posted July 1, 2014 Excuse me. Due to current issues involving SKSE 1.7.0, I want to continue to use SexLab 1.39b until 1.7 of SKSE is no longer in Alpha build. However, I am unable to find 1.39b on my computer or anywhere else on the internet. Can you please provide a way to redownload SexLab 1.39b? All of my SexLab mods are compatible with 1.39b, and it is the current version of SexLab I have installed on my Skyrim. (I no longer have SexLab 1.39b in my WinRAR collection is all, and I want 1.39b for when I download Skyrim on my new computer when it is fully built.) EDIT: I should also mention I am still using SKSE 1.6.16 on my current installation of Skyrim as well. I've just heard about other people having issues with SKSE 1.7.0, such as CTDs and memory issues. No. Get over 1.7 being alpha, it's fine. People having issues are people making stupid mistakes and installing it wrong. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and install the 1.7.0 alpha build, since you're the mod maker and have more knowledge than me. Another issue is that some people have made suggestions on how to fix memory issues. I'll provide links: http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/ http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50214/? I should also mention I use a fix to make SKSE load via Steam. Will that cause any issues with the Alpha? Here is the link to said fix: The entire point of those posts is to inform about the memory fix included in 1.7.0 If you've been applying the fix suggested in those links with 1.6.16, they've been doing absolutely nothing for you before, if you've been using other methods such as SSME, than that is now useless since it's now included with 1.7.0 So I can install 1.7.0 without using those fixes? Sorry if I sound a little naive about this, but I am relatively new to modding. I will thank you for putting up with me and answering my questions, though. No, the point is that you have to apply those fixes with 1.7.0, the fixes mentioned in that link are specifically intended for 1.7.0 alpha and 1.7.0 only.
DoodlyDangua Posted July 1, 2014 Posted July 1, 2014 Excuse me. Due to current issues involving SKSE 1.7.0, I want to continue to use SexLab 1.39b until 1.7 of SKSE is no longer in Alpha build. However, I am unable to find 1.39b on my computer or anywhere else on the internet. Can you please provide a way to redownload SexLab 1.39b? All of my SexLab mods are compatible with 1.39b, and it is the current version of SexLab I have installed on my Skyrim. (I no longer have SexLab 1.39b in my WinRAR collection is all, and I want 1.39b for when I download Skyrim on my new computer when it is fully built.) EDIT: I should also mention I am still using SKSE 1.6.16 on my current installation of Skyrim as well. I've just heard about other people having issues with SKSE 1.7.0, such as CTDs and memory issues. No. Get over 1.7 being alpha, it's fine. People having issues are people making stupid mistakes and installing it wrong. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and install the 1.7.0 alpha build, since you're the mod maker and have more knowledge than me. Another issue is that some people have made suggestions on how to fix memory issues. I'll provide links: http://steamcommunity.com/app/72850/discussions/0/540740500921363665/ http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50214/? I should also mention I use a fix to make SKSE load via Steam. Will that cause any issues with the Alpha? Here is the link to said fix: The entire point of those posts is to inform about the memory fix included in 1.7.0 If you've been applying the fix suggested in those links with 1.6.16, they've been doing absolutely nothing for you before, if you've been using other methods such as SSME, than that is now useless since it's now included with 1.7.0 So I can install 1.7.0 without using those fixes? Sorry if I sound a little naive about this, but I am relatively new to modding. I will thank you for putting up with me and answering my questions, though. No, the point is that you have to apply those fixes with 1.7.0, the fixes mentioned in that link are specifically intended for 1.7.0 alpha and 1.7.0 only. Alright, that clears up a lot for me. I'll remember to type in those fixes when I download SKSE 1.7.0 on my new computer. I'm still using the one where I have SKSE 1.6.16 already installed on my Skyrim copy, so no need to do anything just yet. I feel fine with using the current SexLab version once I get my new computer, so thanks for the help.
Ashal Posted July 1, 2014 Author Posted July 1, 2014 Uploaded hotfix version 1.58b Changelog is as follows: Fixed major issue causing some animations to seemingly change positions or animation randomly. If you installed 1.58, just apply the update patch and rerun FNIS for Users tool. I reran the behavior generation on ALL sexlab behaviors, not just one people reported issues with. The creature behavior files all came out with new CRCs (with the exception of horse) so if you applied the previous suggested patch of just regenerating the main character behaviors, I'd suggest either redoing all the creatures as well, or just apply the official update patch since it it bumps the SexLab version readout as well.
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