[mod] Daughters of Lust

[megamorph014]

3 hours ago, SoCalExile said:

BTW since I'm only using DoL for immortality in my game (haven't progressed enough with Demonic Blood), I'm finding that I have to use the Impregnate Spouse mod in order to get my character pregnant since about age ±60, even after rebuying the Succubus Lineage, and since then the beauty mod used for the succubus cutscenes before are on all the time now. Not sure if a feature or bug. 

Something that might work well in this mod is the ability to feed on prisoners and slaves.

There is a cap on the maximum number of children you can have. this is in the base games defines. There are bonuses for the player and rank and everything but it caps out at around 20max children thru vanilla means. There is a mod that removes this child cap for players thats useful for immortal characters.

@Cheri Song i have also experienced losing this trait when i exposed my secrests with the debug menu. I had to choose to give it myself again.

[Cheri Song]

On 3/23/2021 at 5:19 AM, SoCalExile said:

 

I'm using 88 mods in this playthrough. LOL.

 

Yeah I'm not debugging that. Try a game with only the bare minimum number of mods enabled and see if the problem still happens.

 

  

On 3/23/2021 at 9:08 AM, megamorph014 said:

@Cheri Song i have also experienced losing this trait when i exposed my secrests with the debug menu. I had to choose to give it myself again.

 

This is definitely a bug. I'll look into it.

[Tempmania]

I have an idea that might make good use of the lactation system in Carnalitas.

 

The succubus currently sucks out good traits from a person and absorbs it into herself, but what if she can also spread the "good traits" by feeding her vassals and courtiers her milk? Such as propagating leveled congenital traits such as beautiful, herculean, genius and big-breasted which scale on success/level based on the ruler's stats and amount of milk produced?

 

Would it also be possible to make a doctrine for succubus to be accepted/revered by people of that faith?

[Ozvelpoon]

1 hour ago, Tempmania said:

I have an idea that might make good use of the lactation system in Carnalitas.

 

The succubus currently sucks out good traits from a person and absorbs it into herself, but what if she can also spread the "good traits" by feeding her vassals and courtiers her milk? Such as propagating leveled congenital traits such as beautiful, herculean, genius and big-breasted which scale on success/level based on the ruler's stats and amount of milk produced?

 

Would it also be possible to make a doctrine for succubus to be accepted/revered by people of that faith?

The idea that a succubus' milk would pass along sexual traits to her offspring (and anyone else she breatfeeds) is an interesting idea you can play with from a evolutionary standpoint. Heavy if not supernatural amounts of hormones and whatnot. 

 

I like this idea, but if I could suggest a tweak? The big 3 congenital traits are used a lot in mods; what about focusing in on the traits added in by Canalitas? If the succubus could instead pass along the dick and breast traits along with some of the lesser single tier traits such as futanari. Base game traits worth mentioning include fecund and muscular/athletic.

 

The developers of Carnalitas has stated that they do not wish to make any of the body traits "better" than others so as to allow for player taste; so I do not think a linear increase in size of the sex traits is in the cards. What if the Succubus can only impart what traits they already have at most? 

 

[Tempmania]

2 hours ago, Ozvelpoon said:

The developers of Carnalitas has stated that they do not wish to make any of the body traits "better" than others so as to allow for player taste; so I do not think a linear increase in size of the sex traits is in the cards. What if the Succubus can only impart what traits they already have at most? 

 

 

I wasn't really thinking of making it "better" but rather "less effective" if the milk produced is insufficient. So a succubus with the "beautiful" trait would only be able to impart the "comely" trait to her vassal if the milk produced is minimal but, but will be able to impart the "beautiful" trait if she is producing close to the maximum amount of milk.

[Ozvelpoon]

3 hours ago, Tempmania said:

 

I wasn't really thinking of making it "better" but rather "less effective" if the milk produced is insufficient. So a succubus with the "beautiful" trait would only be able to impart the "comely" trait to her vassal if the milk produced is minimal but, but will be able to impart the "beautiful" trait if she is producing close to the maximum amount of milk.

Ah now I see what you meant, thanks for the clarification. I was speaking of my suggestion in this case; IF the dick/breast traits were assed on by the succubus then I meant that we should not assume that these traits progression should automatically be towards the largest version. My thought was that if we limited the traits to the max of what the character has then we could allow for players who are trying to foster a smaller bust size in their genetics for example. 

[SoCalExile]

Is anyone else having near-constant malnourishment on their succubus? Not sure if it's DoL or one of my other of my mods. 

[Tempmania]

11 hours ago, Ozvelpoon said:

Ah now I see what you meant, thanks for the clarification. I was speaking of my suggestion in this case; IF the dick/breast traits were assed on by the succubus then I meant that we should not assume that these traits progression should automatically be towards the largest version. My thought was that if we limited the traits to the max of what the character has then we could allow for players who are trying to foster a smaller bust size in their genetics for example. 

 

Perhaps there's this could also work in reverse?

Succubus with traits in the (-ve) would only be able to impart less (-ve) traits? So tiny breasted succubus would only impart small breasts if lactation is insufficient.

[Ozvelpoon]

58 minutes ago, Tempmania said:

 

Perhaps there's this could also work in reverse?

Succubus with traits in the (-ve) would only be able to impart less (-ve) traits? So tiny breasted succubus would only impart small breasts if lactation is insufficient.

Yes that could work, though it may be hard to control what traits you are imparting as lactation fluctuates.

[talkaboom]

On 3/23/2021 at 2:49 AM, SoCalExile said:

 

I'm using 88 mods in this playthrough. LOL. 

Other than the Carnalitas suite and Demonic Blood, I'm also using this: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2408301874 which might affect DoL (but is consistent with it IMO). 

 

Mods - some may or not work atm, some I just added on a whim and never disabled, LOL: 
 

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Sex And Immortality *may* have some conflicts. I am using a similar set of mods. When loading DoL before SaI, some of the events would trigger but no stat/attribute would change.

After that, I started a new test playthrough loading DoL after SaI. Events fire but I am still not seeing any traits/maluses from using abilities like Drain life.

I only ever got the option to absorb a trait the first time (it was tit size of all things). Thereafter, none of the encounters prompted any option but to absorb the temp health bonus.

Not seeing the lactation stat at all even though messages about low and high lactation show up fine.

All these seem to be due to SaI or maybe some other GUI affecting mod I am hoping to test over the next couple of days. I am about to start a new test run with SaI disabled entirely.

I have a hunch that Daddy Pika's CheatMenu may also be affecting some things. I use it extensively to set up my scenarios. Way more convenient to generate characters and custom realms with the menu than type in hundreds of console commands.

 

 

 

OT, some weird mod conflict I have right now lets me assign child rulers as commanders. I was laughing way too hard at the thought of a toddler berserker sacking Rome to test out the conflict. I had my kid ruler lead raiding armies almost constantly but at it did not give me the viking trait till after i became an adult. Don't know if that was just bad RNG or check for the adult/child flag. Also, prisoners were able to lead armies. I had a number of rulers in my dungeon for years. They would keep leading armies as if they were out and about. None of them died in combat though I did not track injuries. No idea which mod is causing this to happen. OT, as I said. Just thought it was funny and wanted to share.

 

 

Finally, @Cheri Song, if you could add the ability to awaken ancestry after inheriting from a male character later in a game, that would be swell.

 

[King68215]

For some reason when ever I reload my saved game the succubus trait isn't their.

Am I missing something?

[shaaaaq]

This mod is great and has a lot of polish.
This is definitely one I'll be keeping an eye on as a result.

Would you consider adding the ability to steal strong and shrewd in addition to the other attributes?
Also putting in "no_prowess_loss_from_age = yes" would help with the issue where you (or AI) eventually hit 0 prowess.

Other considerations for when you add succubus AI is permanent (and stacking) debuffs. I actually set up AI succubus and had them compete for good attributed men with permanent debuffs, I'm not sure if that's the direction you're looking for but it made for a fun game (also made succubus much more likely to murder eachother, I was murdered 3 times! between that and AI succubus trying to steal/drain my men to death was very demonic themed).

 

On 3/23/2021 at 12:08 PM, megamorph014 said:

There is a cap on the maximum number of children you can have. this is in the base games defines. There are bonuses for the player and rank and everything but it caps out at around 20max children thru vanilla means. There is a mod that removes this child cap for players thats useful for immortal characters.

@Cheri Song i have also experienced losing this trait when i exposed my secrests with the debug menu. I had to choose to give it myself again.

Personally I just made a quick mod that gives -fertility chance per child and set the defines fertility loss to 0 with 999 kids on the cap.
The defines version kinda makes fertility redundant as fertility doesn't change the maximum number of children you can have.

[megamorph014]

10 hours ago, shaaaaq said:

Personally I just made a quick mod that gives -fertility chance per child and set the defines fertility loss to 0 with 999 kids on the cap.

The defines version kinda makes fertility redundant as fertility doesn't change the maximum number of children you can have.

You aren't only limited by fertility. while yes fertility drops as you have kids, there is also a hard cap on the number of children you can have that is entirely separate from fertility. fertility just makes it harder to hit that cap via vanilla means. with an artificial maximum fertility(like what this mod does) you'll still hit that hard cap of around 20 via natural births without a mod assisting you.

[lucas182]

This mod is fantastic! Played 20 hours with a male ruler then set up a female heir just to play with the mod and boy I didn't think it'd be this interesting

[SoCalExile]

Still having fun with this mod. Could we get the power to give someone the Lustful (and maybe Chaste) trait? 

[vapidandugly]

In addition to some of the other issues with "age" I saw mentioned already:

The extended lifespan from being a succubus doesn't prevent the loss attraction bonuses once you get "old".

It doesn't prevent people from refusing to marry you due to age.

Also, they don't want to marry you because they assume you are infertile.

 

 

[LenaLachrymosa]

As always, another Cheri mod, that is worth it checking out. Thanks  

[Cheri Song]

16 hours ago, vapidandugly said:

In addition to some of the other issues with "age" I saw mentioned already:

The extended lifespan from being a succubus doesn't prevent the loss attraction bonuses once you get "old".

It doesn't prevent people from refusing to marry you due to age.

Also, they don't want to marry you because they assume you are infertile.

 

On 3/30/2021 at 6:06 PM, shaaaaq said:

Would you consider adding the ability to steal strong and shrewd in addition to the other attributes?

Also putting in "no_prowess_loss_from_age = yes" would help with the issue where you (or AI) eventually hit 0 prowess.

 

Thanks for the comments, everyone. I'll definitely be keeping some of these things in mind.

It might be difficult to add some of the anti-aging features since there are no invisible traits in CK3, and many of these functions are hardcoded only to work with traits. But it seems like Paradox is making overtures to modders and has plans to implement the ability to hide traits in the near future, so I'll keep an eye out.

 

  

On 3/25/2021 at 9:17 AM, SoCalExile said:

Is anyone else having near-constant malnourishment on their succubus? Not sure if it's DoL or one of my other of my mods. 

This is a buggy interaction between Daughters of Lust and Mange2020's body mod. I'll try to fix it soon but for now you can disable the body mod as a temporary fix.

[AlipheeseXV]

@Cheri Song

Nice mod so far 

 

Though I have some questions and/or suggestions:

- Can you add a "succubus religion" tenet like with your hermaphroditism? Would be cool to fund my own religion where everyone is worshipping me.

- You might want to cancel the "has to be under 45 of age" to be a prostitute.

- Number of children hardcoded at 20? Just a general question as my succubus couldn't get any more children after 20.

- after my succubus test hit the age of over 90 I was thinking if continuing with her would be boring. Sure, I can alter her appearance - would still be cool to add a feature (ritual?) where you either can possess your player heir (current body dies) or get pregnant and give birth to your new body.

 

[NexusCron]

This mod is great! I wonder if ...the portrait can have actual demonic traits? Like horns, wings, tail? If that's not possible with Ck3's system, I understand.

[Cheri Song]

On 4/9/2021 at 9:00 PM, AlipheeseXV said:

@Cheri Song

Though I have some questions and/or suggestions:

- Can you add a "succubus religion" tenet like with your hermaphroditism? Would be cool to fund my own religion where everyone is worshipping me.

- You might want to cancel the "has to be under 45 of age" to be a prostitute.

- Number of children hardcoded at 20? Just a general question as my succubus couldn't get any more children after 20.

- after my succubus test hit the age of over 90 I was thinking if continuing with her would be boring. Sure, I can alter her appearance - would still be cool to add a feature (ritual?) where you either can possess your player heir (current body dies) or get pregnant and give birth to your new body.

There's a soft cap to the number of children one character can have, yes. This is a CK3 engine limit.

I have plans to fix all of these things, but those plans depend on features in future CK3 releases.

 

23 hours ago, NexusCron said:

This mod is great! I wonder if ...the portrait can have actual demonic traits? Like horns, wings, tail? If that's not possible with Ck3's system, I understand.

If you know a 3D modeler interested in providing art assets for this mod, let me know.

[11010random]

First of all great mod! I felt that using your mod helped increase the time i wanted to spend playing a single character. So, kudos to that. I had a few feedback. Not sure if it is difficult to implement.

1) is it possible to remove age considerations overall for marriage proposals or prowess? KInda weird that someone would reject an empress who looks in her prime for marriage because her age is 150.

2) Is it possible to reset subjugaton invasion? ( or will it make it too easy )

 

I am going to attempt to test it out too ( and if it works can put it out here ) but my modding skills are sub-par.

[pyschodude]

Regarding the age issues, the mod Immortality (Updated and Revised) by YeshuaAgapao on the Workshop enables you to stop your characters from aging and choose their age without changing the displayed age. As far as I can see it also deals with age penalties.

[lucas182]

On 4/9/2021 at 10:00 AM, AlipheeseXV said:

@Cheri Song

Nice mod so far 

 

Though I have some questions and/or suggestions:

- Can you add a "succubus religion" tenet like with your hermaphroditism? Would be cool to fund my own religion where everyone is worshipping me.

- You might want to cancel the "has to be under 45 of age" to be a prostitute.

- Number of children hardcoded at 20? Just a general question as my succubus couldn't get any more children after 20.

- after my succubus test hit the age of over 90 I was thinking if continuing with her would be boring. Sure, I can alter her appearance - would still be cool to add a feature (ritual?) where you either can possess your player heir (current body dies) or get pregnant and give birth to your new body.

 

 

there are mods on the workshop that will remove the child limit.

 

you might also want to download a mod that caps stress gain from family member deaths, as having 100+ children can cause half of them to die due to the domino effect that a single death in the family can cause

[The Lord]

Out of curiosity, for upcoming features you listed (highlighting in red by myself):

 

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• More Sexual Power Abilities: Hypnotize others, learn their secrets, and alter their personality traits to suit you. Incite rivalries and start wars between your playthings.
• Suspicion System: Carefully manage the suspicion drawn by your abilities. Mislead inquisitors, disguise your beauty, or change your identity completely to reduce suspicion.

 

Were you thinking of becoming a new person (not already existant, i.e. made-up) when talking about changing identity or were you thinking of posing as someone else (already existant, e.g. someone's wife/husband, lover, friend, close family member, etc.)? The latter seems to fit with the idea of inciting rivalries, etc.