AAF Family Planning Enhanced Redux

[vaultbait]

16 hours ago, Zaiju said:

@Invictusblade I haven't been able to find a clear answer for this so I'll ask, do you need the addons from the original Family Planning Enhanced? (Dog and Super Mutant addon for example) or are they included in this now?

 

You neither need those addons nor are they included in FPER. If you want super mutant and dog babies, Chosen Clue's add-ons for FPE stopped working with FPER for me a while back and I switched to Wasteland Dairy Framework. These days, if you want non-human births with FPER, the Wasteland Offspring component of WDF is the only implementation I'm aware of. I agree the FPER mod page is rather vague on this point.

[Zaiju]

2 minutes ago, vaultbait said:

 

You neither need those addons nor are they included in FPER. If you want super mutant and dog babies, Chosen Clue's add-ons for FPE stopped working with FPER for me a while back and I switched to Wasteland Dairy Framework. These days, if you want non-human births with FPER, the Wasteland Offspring component of WDF is the only implementation I'm aware of. I agree the FPER mod page is rather vague on this point.

Ah okay, I am using WDF and wasn't sure if I needed the other addons, thanks for the clarification.

[Chupacabra Gonzales]

How can I remove the pregnancy morph 100 carry weight penalty via console or some other command?

 

I have the feeling that at some point it got applied twice and only one was removed after birth. I have tried all the debug buttons to reset the morph and didn't seem to make any difference.

[James1344]

Hi when an npc gives birth the baby does not appear in the inventory or the npc inventory how do i fix this?

 

[Skypo]

Bug report (and possible solution): Suddenly my character could't get pregnant anymore. She had no perks saying she's pregnant/postpartum/infertile, yet there was no message (pregnancy chance) after any scene. Pregnancy for other npc's worked as usual.

Found out, that she was still in the "pregnancy faction", so I removed her from the faction (console --> "help pregn 4 fact" (shows all factions with "pregn" in their name) --> "player.removefromfaction [factionID of pregnancy faction]" . Everything working again.

I'm not sure when this bug occured for the first time. I think, it was after I tested the "female to female cum" option. After deactivating it, the bug started. Maybe not related, I'm not sure.

[windoge-10]

I might be blind, stupid as hell, or both, but is there a way for the sole survivor to become a breeder besides the off chance that some npc might have the breeder virus?

[windoge-10]

1 minute ago, windoge-10 said:

I might be blind, stupid as hell, or both, but is there a way for the sole survivor to become a breeder besides the off chance that some npc might have the breeder virus?

Nevermind, im both. Just checked a chem station ?

[LCdr Frog]

Hey, like this mod and WDF very much. The only sore point is that nearly 100% of npc (inluding companion) are having serious issues with raising children with the end result being there is no baby when they give birth. Just wandering if it is possible to change a npc view on having children and how this is decided. Keep the good work.

[rilieAP]

On 5/22/2022 at 5:45 PM, Invictusblade said:

just a reminder to download one of the following, I haven't received any feedback so I don't know if the preg to birth has been solved yet (like I said before, I could only mimic the bug)

@Invictusblade I finally got a chance to do a couple tests with your first pair of testing scripts. 

 

The first is a human pregnancy, had the fertile perk upon wake up, had sex and got a notification message with the joke.  From there I never got another message about monthly pregnancy, no father or abortion quest even though I have them set to on and the doctors do not recognize I'm pregnant.  I finally get the you're going into labor message and and only then do the doctors recognize I'm pregnant and deliver the baby.

 

The second is a reload of the save, so no human pregnancy had taken place.  I was still fertile from sleep and had sex with a super mutant slave I have.  Once again got the joke message but no abortion or father quest, the twist being that at ~10 months when I would deliver a human baby I woke up and both the father and abortion quests kicked off.  The abortion quest immediately failed as well and but at that point the doctors started to provide services, except abortion.  I progressed along and delivered at the normal 12 months for SM.

 

For both after giving birth I exited the game and grabbed the log.

 

Hopefully this helps track down the issue, because the fix doesn't seem to fix it for me anyway.  Let me know if you need me to test anything else.

Papyrus.Human.log Papyrus.SuperMutant.log

Edited June 11, 2022 by RileyAP
grammar

[shivster000]

Who does the pick up line hotkey work on, because I've got max charisma but it's not working for me.

 

[rilieAP]

On 5/31/2022 at 4:49 AM, Invictusblade said:

so one question before I start removing them.

 

do Players here edit the DefUI XML's to have the Tags replaced with Icon's.

 

because I have been "playing" Fallout 4 with the new FallUI Mods (Icon Library) and that is incompatible with the Tags I've made for FPE and WDF

I use the FallUI Icon Library and Rename anything then add custom tagging with Complex Item sorter.  I seems to work perfect with everything I see from FPE & WDF.  Like fertility items and everything are correctly tagged with icons by default.  Every now and then I get a weird item that doesn't get an icon, like from Devious Devices it icon tags everything correctly, but a few items like the Iron collar don't get any icon.  I've seen a couple things here and there from various mods and maybe something from FPE/WDF but most are correct.

[dewguru]

So, I've got an issue where if an NPC gets pregnant, they have the baby the next day. My MCM shows that the FPE is set at 3, and the pregnancy is set at 9, so it should be 27 game days before birth.

 

When I take a baby out of their inventory and it gives me the pop-up, at the bottom, it says that a month is 0 days long, so it's like it's not recognizing the FPE (I didn't modify it until after noting the above. I adjusted FPE to 4 to see if it'd change how many days a month is - and it didn't).

 

The bodies are morphing at the 12 hour mark, so that part is working, but after the day roll-over, it's new baby and back to normal.

 

Any advice?

[Guest]

Hello, i want to know, do this mod generates the offspring the looks of there parents? Like the original system of Shaun looks based by his parents in game charapter creator.

[Roarke]

In the original AAF Family Planning Enhanced, you could have a settlement raise a baby by building a crib and dropping the baby nearby to place it inside. I've tried it with this version, but the baby disappears as soon as I drop it. Is it not possible anymore or do I have to change a setting in the MCM?

Edited June 13, 2022 by LT Roarke

[vaultbait]

21 hours ago, Ero_shibo said:

Hello, i want to know, do this mod generates the offspring the looks of there parents? Like the original system of Shaun looks based by his parents in game charapter creator.

 

No, it does not.

[TheRealDrunkZombie]

Great mod.  It is the only reason I am doing another play through.  Thanks for the esp fix on page 76 so it will work with Sex Em Up.  Hopefully you will get your desire to mod back and do some more work on this to refine it,

 

 

I also want to thank Morgenrot_68 for the script fix for the prenatal kits.

[Oldwolf58]

Ok the one thing I've found that isn't working is the removal of the post partum baby bump. Tried everything I can think of and it never goes away for my PC even if I have the post partum setting off. The only solution I've seen is to uninstall then reinstall. Is there any other solution? Because if I have to uninstall/reinstall after every birth I think I'll just tank the pregnancy thing altogether.

[Invictusblade]

So it been a while, I just wasn't in the mood to deal with modding so I withdrew from modding for a while. (and again and again)

decided to play some different Games

 

a handful on my PS4 (no PS5 for me yet)

Monster Sanctuary on PC (I quite liked it when I gotten used to it until the endgame(which really sucks (an insane difficulty spike))

Ace Combat 7 on PC(Modded) and PS4

Endzone - A world Apart (it is quite good for a city builder(it runs like shit when you get around 1000 settlers))

Ghostrunner (quite a good cyberpunk game but it is hard)

[Invictusblade]

So to start, I will slowly get back into modding because I do enjoy it and I do need a creative outlet at the moment.

so a shit load of quotes and answers are coming

 

On 6/2/2022 at 4:24 AM, Helloworldofdeath said:

Hi been trying the mod, everything work pretty well except, for some reason I can't get the CumFlation to work, try click the fix button but it say 'failed to fix it wether it not active, or something when wrong', can somebody help?

so I would recommend that you get the ESPExplorer mod and get the cumflation aid objects (should be three of them called Cumflation Low to Cumflation High) use them.

 

so I can think of a couple of reasons why it doesn't work

1. wrong settings (I added a shitload of options)

2. didn't roll a cumflation yet (there is a chance to get cumflation when having sex)

3. Body Morphs Issues. (if this?, please check if cumflation messages works and leaking works as well because that is independent from morphing)

 

On 6/3/2022 at 4:05 AM, Silvarusx said:

Has anyone else had a problem with sleeping in a bed causing the game to freeze. and attempting to load the save causes ctd...I'm stuck.

 

I don't think it is my mod (but I could be wrong, there is a lot of background activity)

is there a difference between sleeping or waiting(sitting) or waiting(in real world)?

On 6/3/2022 at 5:14 AM, Karna5 said:

 

That's good advice. I play in Survival mode most playthroughs which doesn't allow F5 quick save or menu saving, but I manually save constantly using the console. I create multiple saves by cycling what I call the saves, and I use things easy to type with just left hand. For instance:

 

save war  (this is my default everything okay save)

save bad (this is what I call a situation from which I might not survive, such as during combat or capture or the like)

save test (I use this when I want to try something and don't know if it'll have issues)

save ward (from time to time when everything is perfect, I refresh this. It's my fall back save if I have to revert)

save war2 (I add numbers on the above to cycle the save locations)

etc.

I normally save using that method, because at least I can name them into something useful instead of generic locations

On 6/3/2022 at 9:27 AM, Luchasavior said:

So, after someone get pregnant and the time comes to give birth there only A new born quest complete and nothing more. There is no baby anywhere. I checked everything. (wearable baby  option).

so there could be a number of reasons,

1. Viaiblity is in effect (dead baby)

2. NPC might have dropped the baby somewhere

On 6/4/2022 at 6:12 AM, vaultbait said:

 

You neither need those addons nor are they included in FPER. If you want super mutant and dog babies, Chosen Clue's add-ons for FPE stopped working with FPER for me a while back and I switched to Wasteland Dairy Framework. These days, if you want non-human births with FPER, the Wasteland Offspring component of WDF is the only implementation I'm aware of. I agree the FPER mod page is rather vague on this point.

work in progress (and it doesn't help that I been taking breaks)

On 6/4/2022 at 6:19 AM, Zaiju said:

Ah okay, I am using WDF and wasn't sure if I needed the other addons, thanks for the clarification.

I might start making the smaller scale impregnation mods for limited usage.

On 6/4/2022 at 6:02 PM, NatalieNessie said:

Just wanted too know what version I should Install? inside of MCM for Version 4.005?  it's telling me It's missing plugins, an ESL. do they Require DLC or something else.

 

the version 3.4 (final) works completely. this might just be me, a 'blonde' moment, NGL.. 

not sure yet

On 6/6/2022 at 2:13 AM, Chupacabra Gonzales said:

How can I remove the pregnancy morph 100 carry weight penalty via console or some other command?

 

I have the feeling that at some point it got applied twice and only one was removed after birth. I have tried all the debug buttons to reset the morph and didn't seem to make any difference.

so there is an option to change the settings of pregnancy perks. not sure where it is located on the top of my head. (there is a page called perks or something)

 

On 6/10/2022 at 5:36 AM, James1344 said:

Hi when an npc gives birth the baby does not appear in the inventory or the npc inventory how do i fix this?

 

I will have a look, but have a look in the existence options, for baby outcome perks

 

On 6/10/2022 at 5:44 AM, Skypo said:

Bug report (and possible solution): Suddenly my character could't get pregnant anymore. She had no perks saying she's pregnant/postpartum/infertile, yet there was no message (pregnancy chance) after any scene. Pregnancy for other npc's worked as usual.

Found out, that she was still in the "pregnancy faction", so I removed her from the faction (console --> "help pregn 4 fact" (shows all factions with "pregn" in their name) --> "player.removefromfaction [factionID of pregnancy faction]" . Everything working again.

I'm not sure when this bug occured for the first time. I think, it was after I tested the "female to female cum" option. After deactivating it, the bug started. Maybe not related, I'm not sure.

I will have a look

 

On 6/10/2022 at 11:10 PM, windoge-10 said:

I might be blind, stupid as hell, or both, but is there a way for the sole survivor to become a breeder besides the off chance that some npc might have the breeder virus?

check the alien cave.

On 6/11/2022 at 3:54 AM, LCdr Frog said:

Hey, like this mod and WDF very much. The only sore point is that nearly 100% of npc (inluding companion) are having serious issues with raising children with the end result being there is no baby when they give birth. Just wandering if it is possible to change a npc view on having children and how this is decided. Keep the good work.

so there is the prenatal drugs which is designed to remove the baby outcome perks

use them infront of targeted NPC

On 6/11/2022 at 8:31 AM, RileyAP said:

@Invictusblade I finally got a chance to do a couple tests with your first pair of testing scripts. 

 

The first is a human pregnancy, had the fertile perk upon wake up, had sex and got a notification message with the joke.  From there I never got another message about monthly pregnancy, no father or abortion quest even though I have them set to on and the doctors do not recognize I'm pregnant.  I finally get the you're going into labor message and and only then do the doctors recognize I'm pregnant and deliver the baby.

 

The second is a reload of the save, so no human pregnancy had taken place.  I was still fertile from sleep and had sex with a super mutant slave I have.  Once again got the joke message but no abortion or father quest, the twist being that at ~10 months when I would deliver a human baby I woke up and both the father and abortion quests kicked off.  The abortion quest immediately failed as well and but at that point the doctors started to provide services, except abortion.  I progressed along and delivered at the normal 12 months for SM.

 

For both after giving birth I exited the game and grabbed the log.

 

Hopefully this helps track down the issue, because the fix doesn't seem to fix it for me anyway.  Let me know if you need me to test anything else.

Papyrus.Human.log 525.92 kB · 0 downloads Papyrus.SuperMutant.log 771.72 kB · 0 downloads

I will have a look

On 6/12/2022 at 1:17 PM, shivster000 said:

Who does the pick up line hotkey work on, because I've got max charisma but it's not working for me.

 

so there is two options, (I will have a look at this, I cannot remember how to activate it at the moment)

one of them is a pick up line book which is mainly for jokes

On 6/13/2022 at 10:50 PM, RileyAP said:

I use the FallUI Icon Library and Rename anything then add custom tagging with Complex Item sorter.  I seems to work perfect with everything I see from FPE & WDF.  Like fertility items and everything are correctly tagged with icons by default.  Every now and then I get a weird item that doesn't get an icon, like from Devious Devices it icon tags everything correctly, but a few items like the Iron collar don't get any icon.  I've seen a couple things here and there from various mods and maybe something from FPE/WDF but most are correct.

ok then, I will reverse my decision and will keep the tags (in fairness, I don't mind the [Milk] tags)

On 6/14/2022 at 12:49 AM, dewguru said:

So, I've got an issue where if an NPC gets pregnant, they have the baby the next day. My MCM shows that the FPE is set at 3, and the pregnancy is set at 9, so it should be 27 game days before birth.

 

When I take a baby out of their inventory and it gives me the pop-up, at the bottom, it says that a month is 0 days long, so it's like it's not recognizing the FPE (I didn't modify it until after noting the above. I adjusted FPE to 4 to see if it'd change how many days a month is - and it didn't).

 

The bodies are morphing at the 12 hour mark, so that part is working, but after the day roll-over, it's new baby and back to normal.

 

Any advice?

I think I know what is causing the issue and will be fixing it (again) in the upcoming version

On 6/14/2022 at 4:03 AM, Ero_shibo said:

Hello, i want to know, do this mod generates the offspring the looks of there parents? Like the original system of Shaun looks based by his parents in game charapter creator.

not really, I am not sure how the game version works.

On 6/14/2022 at 9:48 AM, LT Roarke said:

In the original AAF Family Planning Enhanced, you could have a settlement raise a baby by building a crib and dropping the baby nearby to place it inside. I've tried it with this version, but the baby disappears as soon as I drop it. Is it not possible anymore or do I have to change a setting in the MCM?

I didn't change anything to do with that

do you have lootman installed

19 hours ago, TheRealDrunkZombie said:

Great mod.  It is the only reason I am doing another play through.  Thanks for the esp fix on page 76 so it will work with Sex Em Up.  Hopefully you will get your desire to mod back and do some more work on this to refine it,

 

 

I also want to thank Morgenrot_68 for the script fix for the prenatal kits.

I will have a look at the new scripts

7 hours ago, Oldwolf58 said:

Ok the one thing I've found that isn't working is the removal of the post partum baby bump. Tried everything I can think of and it never goes away for my PC even if I have the post partum setting off. The only solution I've seen is to uninstall then reinstall. Is there any other solution? Because if I have to uninstall/reinstall after every birth I think I'll just tank the pregnancy thing altogether.

I will have a look because it should work.

[sunhawken]

What version am I suppose to download? for FPE and WDF?

[Invictusblade]

7 hours ago, sunhawken said:

What version am I suppose to download? for FPE and WDF?

the latest versions of each

FPE v4.005

WDF v3.005

 

and then there are some hotfixes around in the thread a page ago

 

[Papersword]

What does the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" Perk do? Is it the same as "Don't Ask" baby outcome? I noticed it on Cait after checking on a recent pregnancy she gained. Her debug pregnancy check says that she "Has no plans", which I thought indicated a normal outcome.  

[Guest]

On 6/14/2022 at 7:00 PM, vaultbait said:

 

No, it does not.

Thanks for the answer

 

 

On 6/16/2022 at 3:52 PM, Invictusblade said:

not really, I am not sure how the game version works.

Thanks for this mod, it works good and i asked about this becose when i used the origional version of this mod i thogth thath it really takes some aperance from boath parents. It may be my delusion.

[Invictusblade]

3 hours ago, Papersword said:

What does the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" Perk do? Is it the same as "Don't Ask" baby outcome? I noticed it on Cait after checking on a recent pregnancy she gained. Her debug pregnancy check says that she "Has no plans", which I thought indicated a normal outcome.  

that will be changing in the upcoming version

it will be changing to "infanticide" (basically the mother will either kill the baby or leave it behind because the wasteland is an extremely harsh place to live)

[sunhawken]

12 hours ago, Invictusblade said:

the latest versions of each

FPE v4.005

WDF v3.005

 

and then there are some hotfixes around in the thread a page ago

 

I assume your talking about these . 

AAF_FamilyPlanningEnhanced_4.005a LacMax_Patch.7z

Edited June 17, 2022 by sunhawken